Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental validation software

[Marc Gemis]

Dave,

IMHO the best way to avoid problems in that spot is to do what other
suggested: add the footpath between the 2 street (thereby fixing the
navigation for pedestrians) and/or adding the small piece of landuse=grass
+ the tree.
I assume nobody will remove that just to fix a problem reported by an
QA-site. The site might not even report the problem (as there is a footpath
between the two and not an empty space)

I don't know what is worse, a local mapper that does not add the footpath
between the two streets or a armchair mapper that connects the two. The map
is incorrect in both cases...
The best way to "document" why 2 streets are not connected is by mapping
the obstacle between them or the other type of road between them. That
should exclude the spot from detection algorithms.

just my .5 cent

regards

m

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Dave F.  wrote:

>  Ian
>
> I will make & reinforce my point of view vehemently, especially when
> misuse of Google is implied, & definitely when repeated amendments are to
> the detriment of the database.
>
> Regards
> Dave F.
>
> On 14/10/2014 17:22, Ian Dees wrote:
>
>  On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Dave F.  wrote:
>
>> On 13/10/2014 17:18, Aaron Lidman wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking at the imagery I can see how it might be thought they connect,
>>> especially when none of us are using google maps for verification, right?
>>>
>>
>> Wrong. I was using Streetview to confirm to the forum what I already knew
>> - that the roads don't join. I don't need Google as I went there & did a
>> proper visual survey, whereas your employee just "thought" they "might"
>> join. This armchair guesswork is bad for the OSM database: If you're unsure
>> if an edit will improve the quality of the map - please don't make it.
>>
>> I use the validation software you mention, but only to correct data that
>> I have first hand knowledge of & never to amend something in another time
>> zone where I've never been. Even when I do use them, I stop to think
>> whether it is an accurate error report & not blindly fix it assuming it
>> must be true.
>
>
>  A reminder to watch our language on the list. Like Frederik said, assume
> good intentions and don't use hyperbole or "loud words" to force your point.
>
>  Thanks,
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[OSM-talk] Fwd: [Talk-us] Presenting your new OSM-US board

[Martijn van Exel]

Hello all,

The US Chapter Board elections were held this past week, and the results
were just announced on talk-us. See Toby Murray's post below.

Martijn

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Subject: [Talk-us] Presenting your new OSM-US board
To: talk-us 


Voting closed on the OSM-US board election last night. Michael Collinson
and I acted as election observers and we are both satisfied that the
election was carried out properly. So today I am happy to announce our new
board members:

Alyssa Wright
Martijn van Exel
Alex Barth
Ian Dees
Eleanor Tutt

More information and some notes from Michael about the election are up on
the openstreetmap.us blog:
http://openstreetmap.us/2014/10/election-results/

Please join me in thanking the outgoing board members for their service to
the OSM community in the US over the past year and welcome the new members
to the challenges ahead for next year.


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Re: [OSM-talk] QuickOSM, a QGIS plugin to query Overpass

[Etienne Trimaille]

Hi Pierre,

QuickOSM is a frontend to Overpass, as OverpassTurbo is another frontend
too but not on the same plateform (qgis vs website).
QuickOSM will improve (in a next version) its communication with
OverpassTurbo like saving a query by getting the short link a query.
And the plugin should be able to read a short link from Overpass Turbo.

There are 2 ways for increasing the timeout :
- you can extend the timeout in the "advanced" panel (click on it) of the
query, simplest way
- you can click on the button "show query" to manually edit the XML

2014-10-15 22:42 GMT+02:00 Pierre Béland :

> Bonjour Étienne
>
> Very interesting and could surely be adapted to work on a website as a
> front-end to Overpass.
>
> I made a query to extract place nodes for a complete Country.
>
> This works nicely with search through Nominatim. Just a little problem
> encountered. The timeout was 25 seconds. Too short for big queries.
>
> Pierre
>
>   --
>  *De :* Etienne Trimaille 
> *À :* Emir Hartato 
> *Cc :* Talk Openstreetmap 
> *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 15 octobre 2014 14h30
> *Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk] QuickOSM, a QGIS plugin to query Overpass
>
> Thanks for your comment.
>
> 2014-10-15 20:15 GMT+02:00 Emir Hartato :
>
> One question, how often the data is getting updated from OSM server?
>
>
> It depends of the server you choose.
> The main server (overpass-api.de), it's mainly less than 2 minutes.
> You can get the timestamp of the server in the parameters of the plugin.
>
>
> Do you have a github page where I can submit issues and suggestion?
>
>
> Yes, tickets are welcome :
> https://github.com/3liz/QgisQuickOSMPlugin
> But pythonner are welcome too ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
>
> *Kind Regards,Emir Hartato*
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Etienne Trimaille <
> etienne.trimai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> A new QGIS plugin exists so as to run an overpass query.
> This plugin is QuickOSM which you can find in the QGIS's repository :
> - using keys/values with autocompletion
> - use an extent of the map canvas or an nominatim area
> - use some actions so as to edit in JOSM or open external links like
> wikipedia
> - save your query
> - change the default geographic extent of a saved query
> - apply some symbology if possible
> - use QuickOSM in complexe models of QGIS Processing : fetching some datas
> then reprojecte them for instance
> -open a osm file by specifying the OGR file 'osmconf'
> There is a little video : https://vimeo.com/108737868
> I've developped this project during my internship at 3Liz :
> http://www.3liz.com/
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Re: [OSM-talk] QuickOSM, a QGIS plugin to query Overpass

[Pierre Béland]

Bonjour Étienne
Very interesting and could surely be adapted to work on a website as a 
front-end to Overpass.
I made a query to extract place nodes for a complete Country.
This works nicely with search through Nominatim. Just a little problem 
encountered. The timeout was 25 seconds. Too short for big queries.  Pierre 

  De : Etienne Trimaille 
 À : Emir Hartato  
Cc : Talk Openstreetmap  
 Envoyé le : Mercredi 15 octobre 2014 14h30
 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] QuickOSM, a QGIS plugin to query Overpass
   
Thanks for your comment.

2014-10-15 20:15 GMT+02:00 Emir Hartato :

One question, how often the data is getting updated from OSM server?

It depends of the server you choose.
The main server (overpass-api.de), it's mainly less than 2 minutes.
You can get the timestamp of the server in the parameters of the plugin.
 
Do you have a github page where I can submit issues and suggestion?

Yes, tickets are welcome :
https://github.com/3liz/QgisQuickOSMPlugin
But pythonner are welcome too ;-) 


 

Many thanks
Kind Regards,
Emir Hartato
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Etienne Trimaille 
 wrote:

Hi,A new QGIS pluginexists so as to run an overpass query.This plugin 
isQuickOSM which you can find in the QGIS's repository :- using keys/valueswith 
autocompletion
- use an extent ofthe map canvas or an nominatim area
- use some actionsso as to edit in JOSM or open external links like wikipedia
- save your query
- change the defaultgeographic extent of a saved query
- apply somesymbology if possible
- use QuickOSM incomplexe models of QGIS Processing : fetching some datas 
thenreprojecte them for instance
-open a osm file byspecifying the OGR file 'osmconf'There is a littlevideo : 
https://vimeo.com/108737868I've developped thisproject during my internship at 
3Liz : http://www.3liz.com/Etienne Trimaille

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Re: [OSM-talk] QuickOSM, a QGIS plugin to query Overpass

[Etienne Trimaille]

Thanks for your comment.

2014-10-15 20:15 GMT+02:00 Emir Hartato :

> One question, how often the data is getting updated from OSM server?
>

It depends of the server you choose.
The main server (overpass-api.de), it's mainly less than 2 minutes.
You can get the timestamp of the server in the parameters of the plugin.


> Do you have a github page where I can submit issues and suggestion?
>

Yes, tickets are welcome :
https://github.com/3liz/QgisQuickOSMPlugin
But pythonner are welcome too ;-)


>
> Many thanks
>
>
> *Kind Regards,Emir Hartato*
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Etienne Trimaille <
> etienne.trimai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A new QGIS plugin exists so as to run an overpass query.
>>
>> This plugin is QuickOSM which you can find in the QGIS's repository :
>> - using keys/values with autocompletion
>> - use an extent of the map canvas or an nominatim area
>> - use some actions so as to edit in JOSM or open external links like
>> wikipedia
>> - save your query
>> - change the default geographic extent of a saved query
>> - apply some symbology if possible
>> - use QuickOSM in complexe models of QGIS Processing : fetching some
>> datas then reprojecte them for instance
>> -open a osm file by specifying the OGR file 'osmconf'
>>
>> There is a little video : https://vimeo.com/108737868
>>
>> I've developped this project during my internship at 3Liz :
>> http://www.3liz.com/
>>
>> Etienne Trimaille
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Re: [OSM-talk] QuickOSM, a QGIS plugin to query Overpass

[Emir Hartato]

Hi Etienne,

I've been playing around with the plugin and it looks great!
One question, how often the data is getting updated from OSM server?
Do you have a github page where I can submit issues and suggestion?

Many thanks


*Kind Regards,Emir Hartato*

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Etienne Trimaille <
etienne.trimai...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A new QGIS plugin exists so as to run an overpass query.
>
> This plugin is QuickOSM which you can find in the QGIS's repository :
> - using keys/values with autocompletion
> - use an extent of the map canvas or an nominatim area
> - use some actions so as to edit in JOSM or open external links like
> wikipedia
> - save your query
> - change the default geographic extent of a saved query
> - apply some symbology if possible
> - use QuickOSM in complexe models of QGIS Processing : fetching some datas
> then reprojecte them for instance
> -open a osm file by specifying the OGR file 'osmconf'
>
> There is a little video : https://vimeo.com/108737868
>
> I've developped this project during my internship at 3Liz :
> http://www.3liz.com/
>
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[OSM-talk] Your chance to host State of the Map 2015

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi list members,

State of the Map conferences are a great way to bring the community
together, reach out to new members and promote innovation. I am delighted
to see that the OpenStreetMap Foundation have committed to continuing State
of the Map in 2015.

The OSMF annual SOTM complements local SOTMs {EU, US, Scotland, etc} and to
me one of the big benefits is that the Foundation remains committed to
taking SOTM to new places. Now it's your chance to host :-)

The call for locations for SOTM 2015 is now open:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2015/Call_for_venues

So why are you still reading this, get bidding :-)

Regards,
Rob
SotM 2013 (Birmingham) local team
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[OSM-talk] OSMF 2014 election details. Spread the word.

[Richard Weait]

Hi all,

The OpenStreetMap Foundation election (2014) is coming up soon.  Some
details are still being ironed out and published.  Please pass this
information along to your local community- and language-lists.  Spread
the word to your favoured social networks.

For starters, please find:

Some dates:
Wednesday, 15 October 2014 at 2359H UTC.  Candidate nominations open. (today)

Thursday, 23 October 2014 at 2359H UTC.  Candidate nominations close

Email Proxy votes to open and close some time between these dates.
Details to follow.

Saturday, 08 November 2014, time TBD. In-person voting at SotM Buenos
Aires, Argentina.

Subject to correction, of course.

Candidacy and candidates:
Note that candidates may self-nominate.
The candidate list.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM14/Election_to_Board

I've had questions about candidates and candidacy and have posted my
thoughts here:
http://weait.com/foundation-commitments
http://weait.com/osmf-election-2014
Your questions for current or past board members, and for candidates
are welcome on the lists, IRC and other channels.

Voting:
-dates for email proxy voting are not yet confirmed.  Typically, email
proxy voting begins some time after candidacy closes, and ends hours
or days before the in-person voting begins.
-STV voting will be used for the first time in the OSMF context.
Details will be added to the wiki page on proxy voting.
- Matters for voting in 2014 include the Election to the Board, three
special resolutions, and a vote on membership fees.  Details to
follow.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM14/Proxy_Voting

Best Regards and Happy Mapping,
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[OSM-talk] QuickOSM, a QGIS plugin to query Overpass

[Etienne Trimaille]

Hi,

A new QGIS plugin exists so as to run an overpass query.

This plugin is QuickOSM which you can find in the QGIS's repository :
- using keys/values with autocompletion
- use an extent of the map canvas or an nominatim area
- use some actions so as to edit in JOSM or open external links like
wikipedia
- save your query
- change the default geographic extent of a saved query
- apply some symbology if possible
- use QuickOSM in complexe models of QGIS Processing : fetching some datas
then reprojecte them for instance
-open a osm file by specifying the OGR file 'osmconf'

There is a little video : https://vimeo.com/108737868

I've developped this project during my internship at 3Liz :
http://www.3liz.com/

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Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental validation software

[Dave F.]

Ian

I will make & reinforce my point of view vehemently, especially when 
misuse of Google is implied, & definitely when repeated amendments are 
to the detriment of the database.


Regards
Dave F.

On 14/10/2014 17:22, Ian Dees wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Dave F. > wrote:


On 13/10/2014 17:18, Aaron Lidman wrote:

Looking at the imagery I can see how it might be thought they
connect, especially when none of us are using google maps for
verification, right?


Wrong. I was using Streetview to confirm to the forum what I
already knew - that the roads don't join. I don't need Google as I
went there & did a proper visual survey, whereas your employee
just "thought" they "might" join. This armchair guesswork is bad
for the OSM database: If you're unsure if an edit will improve the
quality of the map - please don't make it.

I use the validation software you mention, but only to correct
data that I have first hand knowledge of & never to amend
something in another time zone where I've never been. Even when I
do use them, I stop to think whether it is an accurate error
report & not blindly fix it assuming it must be true.


A reminder to watch our language on the list. Like Frederik said, 
assume good intentions and don't use hyperbole or "loud words" to 
force your point.


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[OSM-talk] Be A Candidate! OSMF 2014 Election preview

[Richard Weait]

I've drafted some of the details and wiki pages for the 2014 election
to the OpenStreetMap Foundation Board.  The details will be confirmed
and then transferred to the OSM and OSMF blogs.

The election is coming up soon, meaning that window for candidacy is
also coming up soon.  So think about it.  Prepare for it.  Do it.

http://weait.com/osmf-election-2014


Happy Mapping

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