Re: [OSM-talk] Skybox release aerial imagery

2014-10-29 Thread Mikel Maron
Hello

I've been talking with the Google Crisis Response team, and they have confirmed:

* Imagery released under Skybox for Good can be digitized into OSM under OSM's 
license.
* The attribution requirement can be fulfilled by attributing Skybox in a given 
changeset and/or feature comment/tag. As well as noted on 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors
* While it's not a requirement, interested to start conversation about more 
robust attribution down the line, ala the dynamic attribution in Google Maps 
(something like an API to view attribution for a particular area, to integrate 
into web viewers)
* HOT is welcome to make additional requests. 

They want to know the best place to formally let OSM know the above. If the 
gist of the above sounds reasonable, I think the best place to announce would 
be on legal-talk@

While we are working on the legal details, it would also be worthwhile for us 
to test the suitability of the imagery for OSM tracing. Is the geo-referencing 
and resolution fit for our purposes?

Cheers
Mikel
 
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On Monday, October 27, 2014 5:37 PM, Rob Nickerson  
wrote:
 

>
>
>Hi list,
>Google (through their acquisition of skybox) have released some aerial imagery 
>under the Cc-by licence:
>http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/26/skybox-for-good/
>Can someone just remind me - are we able to use this in OpenStreetMap? If yes, 
>please forward to the HOT mailing list as it is of value to them.
>Finally we should be very proud of what we as a community have achieved. The 
>work that we, HOT and those who have already made aerial imagery available 
>(bing, digital globe, etc) have achieved to date is so significant that other 
>big players are following in our footsteps. This is a great day :-) 
>Best,
>Rob
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[OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-29 Thread Jukka Rahkonen

Hi,

Steve Coast promised to make the best address map of the world by 
himself if he will not be elected into the board of the OSM Foundation:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2014-October/002713.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2014-October/002761.html

"If I don't get elected then I'll continue focusing on address data 
outside of OSM. It's frankly the easier route but it would be a real 
shame if OSM isn't the venue to make it happen."


I have been thinking that perhaps that would be the best route anyway 
even if Mr. Coast gets elected to the board. By my own experience about 
the addresses in OSM they feel fuzzy and somewhat difficult to utilize 
outside OSM. Addresses given to building polygons are quite simple to 
move to centroids of the polygons for making a point layer of all the 
addresses but for example finding the municipality or city for the 
address points is tedious because administrative units are defined as 
relations which are also somewhat fuzzy and all too often broken.


With a dedicated database and tools for addresses the route could really 
be easier and faster and I would not feel ashamed at all while importing 
addresses from this master address database into OSM later.


-Jukka Rahkonen-



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Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Skybox release aerial imagery

2014-10-29 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Mikel Maron  wrote:
> Hello
>
> I've been talking with the Google Crisis Response team, and they have
> confirmed:
>
> * Imagery released under Skybox for Good can be digitized into OSM under
> OSM's license.

That sounds good.

> They want to know the best place to formally let OSM know the above. If the 
> gist of the above sounds reasonable, I think the best place to announce would 
> be on legal-talk@


I would expect that introducing them to LWG would be best.  Then they
and LWG can agree on an announcement, text and locations, and
coordinate their timing.

Best regards and happy mapping,

Richard

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Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-29 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Jukka Rahkonen <
jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi> wrote:

>
> With a dedicated database and tools for addresses the route could really
> be easier and faster and I would not feel ashamed at all while importing
> addresses from this master address database into OSM later.


Such a thing already exists! :) I would love to have you contribute to
OpenAddresses: http://openaddresses.io/
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Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-29 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 29/10/2014, Jukka Rahkonen  wrote:
> "If I don't get elected then I'll continue focusing on address data
> outside of OSM. It's frankly the easier route but it would be a real
> shame if OSM isn't the venue to make it happen."

The funny/sad part of that quote is that "getting elected to the osmf
board" and "deciding wether to work on addresses inside the main osm
db or outside it" really should be independant propositions. I can
think of a few reasons why one would try to link the two, but they're
all bad. For the sake of diplomacy, I'll assume that I missed the good
valid reasons.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-29 Thread David Fawcett
Agreed.  Jukka points to ideas that could enhance OpenAddresses, There is
some good momentum behind OA already, let's get together and improve that
project.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Ian Dees  wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Jukka Rahkonen <
> jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi> wrote:
>
>>
>> With a dedicated database and tools for addresses the route could really
>> be easier and faster and I would not feel ashamed at all while importing
>> addresses from this master address database into OSM later.
>
>
> Such a thing already exists! :) I would love to have you contribute to
> OpenAddresses: http://openaddresses.io/
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[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

2014-10-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all,

Today, v2.23.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been
released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might
take up to 48 hours before all tiles show the new rendering.

Changes include:

* Various small rendering changes to icon labels.
* New icons for place of worship, windmill, hostel, and camping; minor
icon changes for cinema, recycling, and hairdresser.
* The tag tourism=bed_and_breakfast is no longer rendered - please use
tourism=guest_house instead.
* Tertiary roads are now rendered yellow from z12 instead of z13.
* The tag shop=mall is now rendered like landuse=retail.
* Barriers, level crossings, and mini roundabouts no longer block text
from appearing.
* The places of worship of Jehova's witnesses are no longer rendered as a cross.
* The rendering of highway=track areas has been changed.
* Large national parks and nature reserves now have their name
rendered along the outline.
* There is no longer a gap rendered between adjoining polygons of the same type.
* Various other bug fixes.

For a full list of commits, see
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/compare/v2.22.0...v2.23.0.

As always, we welcome any bug reports at
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues.

-- Matthijs

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[OSM-talk] OpenAerialMap and UAVs

2014-10-29 Thread Blake Girardot

Hi all,

In case anyone is interested the OpenAerialMap project has a Google 
Group for discussion of things related to the project.


My main interest is in using small UAVs to generate aerial imagery and 
there has been some amazing pilot project work already done with small 
UAV imagery in Haiti.


A nice write up about it and some video is here (French and English):

http://www.cartong.org/news/mission-uav-openstreetmap-en-ha%C3%AFti-premier-bilan

A more detailed illustration of the OpenAerialMap plans can be found here:

http://hotosm.github.io/OpenAerialMap/

So, if anyone else is interested in any of the OAM project parts or 
using UAVs for aerial imagery, please join up with the Google Group 
email list and introduce yourself.


Regards,
Blake

PS: Here is a link to the announcement of the OpenAerialMap reboot:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2014-July/005451.html

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Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

2014-10-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

On 10/29/2014 09:34 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> * The tag tourism=bed_and_breakfast is no longer rendered - please use
> tourism=guest_house instead.

Well - it might be your decision what to render and what not, but you
shouldn't go so far as to request that people misrepresent reality in
their mapping.

A private residence where a single bedroom is made available to tourists
is certainly no "guest house" and shouldn't be tagged as such! It is,
and remains, a "bed_and_breakfast".

Bye
Frederik

-- 
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

2014-10-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 29 October 2014 20:59, Dan S  wrote:
> I guess it's not Matthijs who made this decision...

That's correct. See
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/695 for more
details.

-- Matthijs

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenAerialMap and UAVs

2014-10-29 Thread Blake Girardot



Hello Blake,

Please add the link to the google group in your mail!


Johan



Kind of embarrassing I forgot it :)

Here is the link to the google group:

https://groups.google.com/a/hotosm.org/forum/#!forum/openaerialmap

Thank you very much for the heads up Johan!

Cheers,
Blake


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[OSM-talk] Fwd: [okgis] FW: Google Is Giving Away Up-to-Date Satellite Images For Free

2014-10-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Wonder if we can get someone to reach out and see if we can get this
available to us under an amicable license.  Seems to be making the New York
and Oklahoma GIS circles right now.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Willard Gustafson 
Date: Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Subject: [okgis] FW: Google Is Giving Away Up-to-Date Satellite Images For
Free
To: "ok...@gis.ou.edu" 


Thought this would be good information to share….from another listserv.

Google acquired skybox, and they're giving away free imagery for good
causes:



http://gizmodo.com/google-is-giving-away-up-to-date-satellite-images-for-f-1651169968



http://www.skybox.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-good



Sincerely,

*Willard Gustafson, GISP*

Senior GIS Specialist | Meshek & Associates, PLC 

1437 S Boulder Ave Ste 1550 | Tulsa, OK  74119

(918) 392-5620 x211
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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: [okgis] FW: Google Is Giving Away Up-to-Date Satellite Images For Free

2014-10-29 Thread Simon Poole
See the thread on this list from the 27th.

Simon

Am 29.10.2014 22:35, schrieb Paul Johnson:
> Wonder if we can get someone to reach out and see if we can get this
> available to us under an amicable license.  Seems to be making the New
> York and Oklahoma GIS circles right now.
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Willard Gustafson*  >
> Date: Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:30 AM
> Subject: [okgis] FW: Google Is Giving Away Up-to-Date Satellite Images
> For Free
> To: "ok...@gis.ou.edu "  >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thought this would be good information to share….from another listserv.
> 
> Google acquired skybox, and they're giving away free imagery for good
> causes:
> 
>  
> 
> http://gizmodo.com/google-is-giving-away-up-to-date-satellite-images-for-f-1651169968
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.skybox.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-good
> 
>  
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> *Willard Gustafson, GISP*
> 
> Senior GIS Specialist | Meshek & Associates, PLC
> 
> 
> 1437 S Boulder Ave Ste 1550 | Tulsa, OK  74119
> 
> (918) 392-5620 x211 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Steve's better map

2014-10-29 Thread Jason Remillard
Hi,

The OpenAddress project is great, but we still need addresses in OSM.
It would make sense to write OSM importing (and updating) software
that is assumes OpenAddress as an input, rather than the raw files
released by official GIS committees. By standardizing on the output of
the OpenAddress project, most of the remaining work needed for an OSM
address import is the same, therefor we have a chance of getting good
OSM import software written and a standardized processes that can be
optimized.

Thought I have never seen this idea expressed on the OSM lists, I
assume this is part of the long term vision for the OpenAddress
project. If a commercial OSM user (or the board) wants to encourage
getting addresses into OSM at a large scale, this would be the way to
go.

Jason

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:27 PM, David Fawcett  wrote:
> Agreed.  Jukka points to ideas that could enhance OpenAddresses, There is
> some good momentum behind OA already, let's get together and improve that
> project.
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Ian Dees  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Jukka Rahkonen
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> With a dedicated database and tools for addresses the route could really
>>> be easier and faster and I would not feel ashamed at all while importing
>>> addresses from this master address database into OSM later.
>>
>>
>> Such a thing already exists! :) I would love to have you contribute to
>> OpenAddresses: http://openaddresses.io/
>>
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