Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Saturday meeting.

[Daniel Cussen]

There is also generally free parking in the area on a sat, and there
is normally spaces.
TOG can be hard to find. It is on OSM and google maps. The building is
in the middle of a couple of buildings and labelled Camino Ways. Our
spaces are labelled Camino ways, feel free to park in Camino ways
spaces or on the street.

https://www.tog.ie/location/

On 20/10/2017, Jeffrey Roe  wrote:
> There are 6 spaces.
> https://www.tog.ie/location/
> Jeffrey Roe,
> www.tog.ie
>
>
> On 20 October 2017 at 23:17, Donal Hunt  wrote:
>> Quick check: is there parking at TOG or am I better taking public
>> transport?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Donal
>>
>> On 19 Oct 2017 18:56, "Brian Hollinshead"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dave
>>> I will be there as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 October 2017 at 17:38, Dave Corley  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > Everything is still planned to go ahead, 10am to 4pm.
>>> >
>>> > Between Facebook, the site booking form and a few private messages,
>>> > it's
>>> > looking like there will be about 20 attending, possibly more.
>>> >
>>> > I have a load of office supplies bits already that'd I think we'll need
>>> > (post-its, pens, paper). If you want to bring additional supplies,
>>> > bring
>>> > them. If they're not used you can always take them away with you again
>>> >
>>> > Dave
>>> >
>>> > On 19 Oct 2017 16:56, "Donal Diamond"  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > John good luck!
>>> > >
>>> > > https://xkcd.com/705/
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Donal
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On 19 October 2017 at 14:17, John Ronan  wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Hi Guys,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I won't be able to make the meeting Saturday. In work, we were 18
>>> hours
>>> > > > on Generator Monday night/Tuesday, another 4 hours this morning and
>>> > > > I
>>> > > > expect we will be again on Saturday. So I expect I'll be here.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Apologies,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > John (jpronans)
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Saturday meeting.

[Jeffrey Roe]

There are 6 spaces.
https://www.tog.ie/location/
Jeffrey Roe,
www.tog.ie


On 20 October 2017 at 23:17, Donal Hunt  wrote:
> Quick check: is there parking at TOG or am I better taking public transport?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Donal
>
> On 19 Oct 2017 18:56, "Brian Hollinshead"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave
>> I will be there as well.
>>
>>
>> On 19 October 2017 at 17:38, Dave Corley  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Everything is still planned to go ahead, 10am to 4pm.
>> >
>> > Between Facebook, the site booking form and a few private messages, it's
>> > looking like there will be about 20 attending, possibly more.
>> >
>> > I have a load of office supplies bits already that'd I think we'll need
>> > (post-its, pens, paper). If you want to bring additional supplies, bring
>> > them. If they're not used you can always take them away with you again
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > On 19 Oct 2017 16:56, "Donal Diamond"  wrote:
>> >
>> > > John good luck!
>> > >
>> > > https://xkcd.com/705/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Donal
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 19 October 2017 at 14:17, John Ronan  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Guys,
>> > > >
>> > > > I won't be able to make the meeting Saturday. In work, we were 18
>> hours
>> > > > on Generator Monday night/Tuesday, another 4 hours this morning and I
>> > > > expect we will be again on Saturday. So I expect I'll be here.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Apologies,
>> > > >
>> > > > John (jpronans)
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Saturday meeting.

[Donal Hunt]

Quick check: is there parking at TOG or am I better taking public transport?

Thanks!

Donal

On 19 Oct 2017 18:56, "Brian Hollinshead"  wrote:

> Hi Dave
> I will be there as well.
>
>
> On 19 October 2017 at 17:38, Dave Corley  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Everything is still planned to go ahead, 10am to 4pm.
> >
> > Between Facebook, the site booking form and a few private messages, it's
> > looking like there will be about 20 attending, possibly more.
> >
> > I have a load of office supplies bits already that'd I think we'll need
> > (post-its, pens, paper). If you want to bring additional supplies, bring
> > them. If they're not used you can always take them away with you again
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 19 Oct 2017 16:56, "Donal Diamond"  wrote:
> >
> > > John good luck!
> > >
> > > https://xkcd.com/705/
> > >
> > >
> > > Donal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 19 October 2017 at 14:17, John Ronan  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > > I won't be able to make the meeting Saturday. In work, we were 18
> hours
> > > > on Generator Monday night/Tuesday, another 4 hours this morning and I
> > > > expect we will be again on Saturday. So I expect I'll be here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Apologies,
> > > >
> > > > John (jpronans)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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[Talk-it] volontari cercasi per organizzazione State of the Map 2018

[Alessandro Palmas]

  
  
Ciao lista,
la macchina organizzativa di SOTM (come quella di FOSS4G-it) è già
in moto. Iniziare 10 mesi prima dall'appuntamento la dice lunga
sull'impegno che occorrerà impiegarci.
E' per questo che sono a chiedere alla comunità se qualcuno di voi
può dedicare poche ore la settimana per permetterci di organizzare
il più bel State of the Map possibile.

Le figure ancora mancanti sono:

- Assistant (to take minutes of meetings, to support the chairperson
on keeping on top of record keeping).
In questo periodo ci aggiorniamo via skype una volta al mese. Man
mano che ci si avvicinerà la data la call avverranno con maggiore
frequenza. Ovviamente è richiesta una buona conoscenza dell'inglese.

- Communications (email newsletter, blog).
Qualcuno/a che dia supporto alla nostra communication manager
Francesca nel gestire i vari canali di comunicazione (twitter,
Facebook, il blog e la newsletter); anche un lavoro di traduzione è
molto utile. Anche in questo caso nei primi mesi ci sarà un blando
impegno che aumenterà un poco all'approssimarsi e durante l'evento.
Chi se la cava bene con la comunicazione è ultrabenvenuta/o.

- Sponsorship (organise a team of 3 people to send out sponsorship
emails, payment via Dorothea).
Anche questa è un'attività che porta via poco tempo: principalmente
sarà da rispondere e inoltrare mail da e verso gli sponsor.

- Ticket sales system (help set-up and answer email queries related
to sales).
Per la vendita dei biglietti viene utilizzata una piattaforma on
line; diverse persone avranno però domande o richieste di assistenza
a cui dare risposta o nel caso in cui non si sappia cosa rispondere
girare la palla a qualcun altro (qui c'è almeno una persona della
Foundation che ci lavora dietro).

- Local services (find companies to provide catering, social event,
hotel, etc).
Qui servirebbe una persona di Milano. Il catering dovrebbe già
essere organizzato; per gli hotel abbiamo già una lista di una
trentina di posti, servirebbe trovarne alcuni non troppo distante da
Piola a prezzi relativamente economici; per la serata social io sto
già lavorando per avere una bella sede, occorre però organizzare un
minimo la serata.

- Scholarship (assist scholarship process)
Solitamente si invitano una ventina di persone da paesi in via di
sviluppo offrendo loro tutto il pacchetto viaggio, alloggio,
biglietto gratuito. Nel 99% dei casi sono persone che necessitano di
un ingresso VISA. Qui cerchiamo due/tre persone che abbiano un
minimo di dimestichezza con disbrighi burocratici. Sarebbe poi il
massimo se parlassero anche (ma non è indispensabile) una lingua tra
inglese, francese o spagnolo. Questo è probabilmente il punto in cui
abbiamo più bisogno di aiuto.

- Aiuto per la stampa dei materiali: dovremo stampare e a volte
creare (per le cose più semplici) banner, adesivi, badge personali,
rollup, libretti col programma, minilibretti di aiuto per le
scholarship (info su Milano per non perdersi e altre info di base in
inglese, francese, spagnolo), ecc... Si tratta di lavori di grafica,
richiesta di preventivi e, se c'è qualcuno di Milano, qualche ritiro
di adesivi, badge e cordini, nelle settimane e giorni precedenti
SOTM.

- Aiuto nei tre giorni precedenti SOTM, dal 25 al 27 luglio, durante
i quali un pò di braccia e un'auto tra Porta Genova e Piola
sarebbero un grande aiuto. Anche qualche persona in ufficio in Via
Tortona per gestire telefonata, check-list, chiudere e marcare
scatole. Il 27 luglio dovremo portare il materiale rimanente al
POLIMI e al pomeriggio iniziare a disporre tavoli per reception e
altre attività.

Anche se pensate di avere la metà della disponibilità di una delle
figure indicate va bene lo stesso, quasi tutte le attività possono
essere gestite da più persone col coordinamento di WMI.

Per domande e chiarimenti sono sempre disponibile. Spero rispondiate
numerosi.

Un grosso grazie anticipato da me, da WMI e dallo staff della OSM
Foundation che ogni anno lavora dietro le quinte per organizzare
SOTM.

  Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT 



  


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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

[Philip Barnes]

On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 20:33 +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
> On 20/10/17 18:51, Gregrs wrote:
> > I think it makes sense for both fhrs:id and addr:postcode to be on
> > the same entity, whether that's the boundary or a building. In some
> > cases schools might have more than one building with an fhrs:id,
> > but it's possible that these would have a different postcode e.g.
> > the different houses at Rugby School (http://www.openstreetmap.org/
> > way/363617437). 
> 
> The majority of UK schools will only have the one catering facility
> and
> it's unlikely that this will not be the same place as school premises
> and involve a single postcode although with the unstable ownership of
> schools these days, we may well see private food outlets inside
> 'academies'? Although central catering facilities feeding several
> schools also messes up the picture.
> 
It probably not that unusual for schools to have separate catering
facilities for the sixth form.

The school I attended in the 1970s did just that and a small amount of
research suggests my local school now has the same.

Phil (trigpoint)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

[Lester Caine]

On 20/10/17 18:51, Gregrs wrote:
> I think it makes sense for both fhrs:id and addr:postcode to be on the same 
> entity, whether that's the boundary or a building. In some cases schools 
> might have more than one building with an fhrs:id, but it's possible that 
> these would have a different postcode e.g. the different houses at Rugby 
> School (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/363617437). 

The majority of UK schools will only have the one catering facility and
it's unlikely that this will not be the same place as school premises
and involve a single postcode although with the unstable ownership of
schools these days, we may well see private food outlets inside
'academies'? Although central catering facilities feeding several
schools also messes up the picture.

Bigger collage complexes may well have additional catering outlets
across multiple campuses which need separate objects for each campus,
building and potentially each identifiable outlet. It should not be a
problem identifying each outlet and since the FHRS data is open licence
http://ratings.food.gov.uk/enhanced-search/en-GB/Rugby%20School/Rugby/Relevance/0/%5E/%5E/1/1/20
provides every inspection point and the raw data can be download from
http://ratings.food.gov.uk/OpenDataFiles/FHRS319en-GB.xml and a couple
of the 8 entries for Rugby School are at the same postcode. So one needs
separate objects to hold these fhrs:id records rather than the campus
boundary.

Bottom line ... there should be separate objects where that is necessary
and it would be nice if the larger operations such as Rugby School
helped with detailed campus maps as many of the collage and university
sites have been doing?

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

[Philip Barnes]

On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 18:43 +0100, Dave F wrote:
> I've been putting it on the boundary as it covers the whole school
> which 
> can include domestic science (or whatever it's called now) & the
> school 
> fête barbecue as well as the canteen.
> 
Interestingly I have since been looking at FHRS stuff locally and
within the area for the local comprehensive school there are three
objects listed with different postcodes and FHRS IDs.

I am guessing first to fifth form, 6th form and the the boarding
section, its quite an unusual state comprehensive with a very long
history.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

[Gregrs]

Hi Dave,

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 06:43:25PM +0100, Dave F wrote:

In my LA they have pre/post school 'clubs' listed separately. I've been 
adding them as nodes within the school as amenity=club. I'm open to 
suggestion if there's something better for them.


You could add all the FHRS IDs to the school boundary separated by 
semicolons but I'm afraid this isn't yet supported by the comparison 
tool: https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/11.


One advantage of what you're currently doing is that the clubs get 
mapped as an amenity too.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

[Gregrs]

Hi Colin,

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 03:17:49PM +0100, Colin Spiller wrote:

Most of the school information is tagged to the school boundary. 
However, I would expect the fhrs:id tag to be on the relevant building 
within the boundary, but the comparison tool - thank you gregrs - 
expects both the postcode and the fhrs:id on the same object. So is 
that the standard - both on the boundary, and is it documented in the 
wiki anywhere? I thought I had better check before I did too many 
updates!


Thanks for raising this, Colin. This GitHub issue is partly relevant: 
https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues/42#issuecomment-272649433. 
As of January, it was more common to add the addr:postcode tag to the 
school boundary rather than a relevant building.


I think it makes sense for both fhrs:id and addr:postcode to be on the 
same entity, whether that's the boundary or a building. In some cases 
schools might have more than one building with an fhrs:id, but it's 
possible that these would have a different postcode e.g. the different 
houses at Rugby School (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/363617437).


The comparison tool should cope with the fhrs:id tag being on either the 
boundary or building, as long as both fhrs:id and addr:postcode tags are
on the same entity. It will suggest matches based on the centroid of the 
school boundary but will pick up existing matches on either.


Thanks,
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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

[Dave F]

I've been putting it on the boundary as it covers the whole school which 
can include domestic science (or whatever it's called now) & the school 
fête barbecue as well as the canteen.


In my LA they have pre/post school 'clubs' listed separately. I've been 
adding them as nodes within the school as amenity=club. I'm open to 
suggestion if there's something better for them.


DaveF.

On 20/10/2017 15:17, Colin Spiller wrote:
I've recently been catching up with some fhrs:id tags. I've found 
several (most?) of the local schools have entries in the Food 
Standards agency lists. I must have missed something, because I'm now 
confused.


Most of the school information is tagged to the school boundary. 
However, I would expect the fhrs:id tag to be on the relevant building 
within the boundary, but the comparison tool - thank you gregrs - 
expects both the postcode and the fhrs:id on the same object. So is 
that the standard - both on the boundary, and is it documented in the 
wiki anywhere? I thought I had better check before I did too many 
updates!


Thanks in advance

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Re: [Talk-it] Attività della lista

[Paolo Monegato]

Il 20/10/2017 11:14, Alessandro Palmas ha scritto:

Il 20/10/2017 07:33, Luca Delucchi ha scritto:



Non penso sia un buon primato, in special modo visto che poi quando 
si organizzano eventi pochi partecipano e quando si devono fare 
attività sono sempre gli stessi a farle (grazie mille), la maggior 
parte delle discussioni è su come mappare un determinato oggetto e 
spesso non si arriva ad una conclusione condivisa...
Secondo me il numero di mail non rappresenta la qualità della 
comunità ma nel nostro caso l'italianità, parlare tanto ma fare 
poco,  a differenza dei tedeschi, poco chiacchere e tanto fare.


Questa è la mia visione e non risponderò ad altre mail sull'argomento 
(per non alimentare il nostro primato :-) )




Ben conscio che questa mail aumenterà il contatore sono completamente 
d'accordo con Luca.


Come avevo già scritto forse un paio di mesi fa se togliamo dal 
conteggio le discussioni su tutti gli oggetti che messi assieme non 
raggiungono lo 0,001% del totale questi numeri calano drasticamente.
Sarà forse l'effetto Facebook che sta travolgendo la società (il 
fuffapower lo definirei)?


Direi che un peso non indifferente su questo discutibile primato 
potrebbe averlo il fatto che in sostanza questa mailing list è l'unico 
punto di contatto per noi mapper italici.


Altrove usano molto di più il forum o altri sistemi. E se non sbaglio 
sono anche più organizzati a livello di liste locali.
Per dire, imho, se ci fosse una ML lombarda forse talk-it già non 
sarebbe prima...


ciao
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Re: [Talk-dk] [OpenStreetMap] Hjart har kommenteret på et af dine ændringssæt

[Michael Andersen]

Ok, jeg fik ikke fuldendt sætningen, men ville blot gøre opmærksom på 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don.27t_use_name_tag_to_describe_things

On fredag den 20. oktober 2017 17.56.07 CEST Sonny B. Andersen wrote:
> Sendt fra Mail til Windows 10
> 
> Fra: Sonny B. Andersen
> Sendt: 20. oktober 2017 17:43
> Til: OpenStreetMap
> Emne: SV: [OpenStreetMap] Hjart har kommenteret på et af dine ændringssæt
> 
> Tja, sådan er det at være skrivebordsmapper. - Det kan da kun være en
> fordel, at man kan søge på alle 4 funktionsnavne plus selve bygningens, og
> så har jeg endda udeladt udstillingslokalerne!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hilsen,
> Sonny
> 
> Fra: OpenStreetMap
> Sendt: 20. oktober 2017 12:45
> Til: s...@bukhmark.dk
> Emne: [OpenStreetMap] Hjart har kommenteret på et af dine ændringssæt
> 
> 

OpenStreetMap 
Hej sba-dk,
> Hjart har efterladt en kommentar på et af dine ændringssæt, oprettet
> 2017-10-20 10:45:07 UTC med kommentaren 'Bibliotek m.m.' Bemærk at det
> anbefales ikke at tilføje beskrivelser og andet info der ikke direkte er en
> del af det egentlige navn
Flere oplysninger om ændringssættet kan findes på
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53092221. 




For at afmelde
> opdateringer til dette ændringssæt, kan du besøge
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53092221 og klikke "Afmeld".
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Re: [Talk-dk] adressering af butikker m.m.

[Niels Elgaard Larsen]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:15:24 +0200
Michel Coene  wrote:

> Jeg vil vil sige at hele pointen med et kort er at relatere til den
> fysiske verden.  OSM er ikke en telefon bog.

OSM er jo faktisk også en telefonbog.
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/stN

>  Din cykel forretning er
> en fysisk bygning,  ikke en adresse.

Det er en forretning, placeret i en bygning. Der kan være mange
forretninger i den samme bygning.

> Hvis kommunen omdøber gaden,

Og det gør de:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24665342

> eller laver nummer 13 om til 13a, flytter cykel forretningen sig ikke.

Jo, men derfor er adressen jo stadig en attribut for cykelforretningen.
Ligesom telefonnumre, navne, brands, osv.

Hvis den bliver solgt får den også et nyt navn, vi skal rette.

Nogen gange har man brug for at kende adressen på en knude i OSM, fx
hvis når man skal fortælle den til en taxa, sende et brev, osv.

Tit kan man bruge de importerede OIS adresser. Nogle klienter, fx Osman
kan med mere eller mindre held gætte en adresse ud fra en position
eller en knude i OSM. Men det virker ikke altid.

Og der er ikke en en-til-en relation mellem det vi tagger på OSM og de
importerede adresseknuder.

Nogle steder fylder mere end een adresse og så skal man vide, hvor man
vil hen. Da jeg engang lagde to lejligheder sammen blev der indgang fra
to trappeopgange i den nye og så kunne jeg selv vælge min adresse. Hvis
jeg  nu indrettede en tandlægeklinik, advokatkontor, eller lignende og
kom det på OSM, skulle kunderne vide, hvor de skulle ringe på. 

Der er også importerede adresser, der har mange adresser med butikker på
forskellige etager, stadepladser, til højre, venstre osv. Selvom man
kan tagge level så kan man have brug for en adresse.

Men i øvrigt er der adresser med etager og højde i AWS. Det er nok for
meget at importere. Men det vil være en stor hjælp til fx at sætte
building:levels.

> Derfor gør jeg det aldrig. Men det er klart at vi er i flueknæpperi
> afdeling.   Smag og behag vil jeg sige.
> Michel
> 
> Op 19-okt.-2017 22:28 schreef "Henrik Puukka-Sørensen" <
> hen...@puukka-sorensen.dk>:
> 
> > Hej
> >
> > Når jeg mapper butikker og tankstationer har jeg oftest skrevet
> > adressen på butikken. Jeg begyndte med det i forbindelse med
> > registrering af cykelforretninger for en del år siden. Men jeg kan
> > nu se, at der er mange brugere, der sletter disse adresser igen.
> > Hvad er egentlig rigtigt at gøre?
> >
> > Jeg har i flere tilfælde set, at det ville være en fordel med
> > adressen så butikken kommer til at ligge det rigtige sted. Hvis det
> > nu igen bliver i orden at skrive adressen skal det så være den
> > adresse butikken angiver, det kan jo i nogen tilfælde være 37-39?
> >
> > venlig hilsen
> > Henrik Puukka-Sørensen
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Re: [Talk-dk] [OpenStreetMap] Hjart har kommenteret på et af dine ændringssæt

[Sonny B. Andersen]

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Fra: Sonny B. Andersen
Sendt: 20. oktober 2017 17:43
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Emne: SV: [OpenStreetMap] Hjart har kommenteret på et af dine ændringssæt

Tja, sådan er det at være skrivebordsmapper. - Det kan da kun være en fordel, 
at man kan søge på alle 4 funktionsnavne plus selve bygningens, og så har jeg 
endda udeladt udstillingslokalerne!!




Hilsen,
Sonny

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OpenStreetMap 
Hej sba-dk, 
Hjart har efterladt en kommentar på et af dine ændringssæt, oprettet 2017-10-20 
10:45:07 UTC med kommentaren 'Bibliotek m.m.' 

Bemærk at det anbefales ikke at tilføje beskrivelser og andet info der ikke 
direkte er en del af det egentlige navn
Flere oplysninger om ændringssættet kan findes på 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53092221. 




For at afmelde opdateringer til dette ændringssæt, kan du besøge 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/53092221 og klikke "Afmeld". 
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[Talk-dk] Busstoppesteder

[Troels Arvin]

Hej,

Forleden dag, da jeg stod og ventede ved et busstoppested, undrede det 
mig, at det ikke fremgik på min Osmand+. Der var tale om stoppestedet 
"Vejlands Allé (Englandsvej)" på Englandsvej:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/55.64290/12.59871

Jeg kan se, at der tilsyneladende mangler rigtig mange busstoppesteder, 
men omvendt er der også mange, som er registreret.

Er der noget automatik involveret her, eller kræver det simpelhen at man 
går i gang med at få indtegnet busttoppested nodes, hvis man ønsker, at 
OSM indeholder sådanne? Spurgt på en anden måde: Er det spild af tid, 
hvis man begynder at indtegne busstoppesteder?

(Sjovt nok kan jeg se, at rejseplanen.dk benytter OSM i kortvisningen af 
ruter, og dén kender i hvertfald busstoppesteder.)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

[Philip Barnes]

On Fri, 2017-10-20 at 15:17 +0100, Colin Spiller wrote:
> I've recently been catching up with some fhrs:id tags. I've found 
> several (most?) of the local schools have entries in the Food
> Standards 
> agency lists. I must have missed something, because I'm now confused.
> 
> Most of the school information is tagged to the school boundary. 
> However, I would expect the fhrs:id tag to be on the relevant
> building 
> within the boundary, but the comparison tool - thank you gregrs - 
> expects both the postcode and the fhrs:id on the same object. So is
> that 
> the standard - both on the boundary, and is it documented in the
> wiki 
> anywhere? I thought I had better check before I did too many updates!
> 
In most cases I would just stick with putting the fhrs:id on the
boundary as we do not have the necessary information to identify
individual buildings. 

There may be a few where there is more than one fhrs:id for different
facilities but that will be a very small number and is not something we
can survey.

Phil (trigpoint)

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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo sito statistiche

[Ivo Reano]

Grandissimo!
E pure in rapida evoluzione! Complimenti.

Come si fà a cercare il tag specifico che dall'elenco appare chiaramente
sbagliato o da correggere.
Esempio i:
woman 2 nodes
women 8 nodes
women 1 relations
Sarei proprio curioso di sapere dove sono.

Il giorno 20 ottobre 2017 15:19, Simone Saviolo 
ha scritto:

> Il giorno 20 ottobre 2017 09:51, Simone Saviolo 
> ha scritto:
>
>> Il giorno 20 ottobre 2017 06:44, Fabrizio Tambussa 
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> È attivo il nuovo sito di statistiche:
>>> http://stats.openstreetmap.it
>>>
>>
>> Non è che su http://osmit3.wmflabs.org si potrebbe mettere un indice dei
>> siti presenti, per favore?
>>
>
> Già fatto, bravissimi! E grazie per gli ottimi servizi :)
>
> Ciao,
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[Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id

[Colin Spiller]

I've recently been catching up with some fhrs:id tags. I've found 
several (most?) of the local schools have entries in the Food Standards 
agency lists. I must have missed something, because I'm now confused.


Most of the school information is tagged to the school boundary. 
However, I would expect the fhrs:id tag to be on the relevant building 
within the boundary, but the comparison tool - thank you gregrs - 
expects both the postcode and the fhrs:id on the same object. So is that 
the standard - both on the boundary, and is it documented in the wiki 
anywhere? I thought I had better check before I did too many updates!


Thanks in advance

Colin


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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo sito statistiche

[Simone Saviolo]

Il giorno 20 ottobre 2017 09:51, Simone Saviolo 
ha scritto:

> Il giorno 20 ottobre 2017 06:44, Fabrizio Tambussa 
> ha scritto:
>
>> È attivo il nuovo sito di statistiche:
>> http://stats.openstreetmap.it
>>
>
> Non è che su http://osmit3.wmflabs.org si potrebbe mettere un indice dei
> siti presenti, per favore?
>

Già fatto, bravissimi! E grazie per gli ottimi servizi :)

Ciao,

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[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.4.0

[Daniel Koć]

Dear all,

Today, v4.4.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default
stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released.

Changes include:

Major changes
- Rendering inland water areas and labels from z0
- Rendering island and islet labels earlier

Changes
- Rendering of amenity=marketplace
- Rendering of landuse=religious
- Rendering shop=pastry like shop=confectionery
- Rendering of addr:unit
- Rendering natural=bare_rock earlier
- Rendering elevation also on polygon alpine_hut and shelter
- Introducing Noto Sans Arabic
- Rendering icon for slipway ways
- Better minimal distance between housenumbers
- Moving aeroways to their own layer
- Creating amenity POI categories
- Some other documentation and code cleaning

Thanks to all the contributors for this release, including tpikonen,
a new contributor.

For a full list of commits, see
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/compare/v4.3.0...v4.4.0

As always, we welcome any bug reports at
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues


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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo sito statistiche

[Michele Ferretti]

molto bello Sbiri, grazie!

Il giorno 20 ottobre 2017 13:29, Lorenzo "Beba" Beltrami <
lorenzo.b...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Bellissimo! Grazie!
> Il titolo è fantastico e mi ricorda "Signore Dei Dischi" degli Skiantos! xD
>
> Ho notato che building=* appare due volte nella lista.
>
> Lorenzo
>
> Il giorno 20 ottobre 2017 06:44, Fabrizio Tambussa 
> ha scritto:
>
>> È attivo il nuovo sito di statistiche:
>> http://stats.openstreetmap.it
>> Raccoglie i conteggi di alcuni tipi di oggetti creati a partire dal 1
>> agosto scorso, suddivisi per utente.
>> Ogni settimana al computo si aggiungono gli oggetti creati, non
>> modificati o cancellati, e si aggiorna la classifica.
>> Saluti
>> Fabrizio
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Re: [Talk-cz] Rychlebské stezky mají s OSM problém

[Marián Kyral]

Můžeš to porovnat s jejich mapou: http://www.rychlebskestezky.cz/cs/

Marián

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"Zajímavé, podle Strava heatmap to musí být opravdu hojně navštěvované
místo.
http://strava.github.io/iD/#background=MAPNIK=14.60/17.1858/50.2863
Na to jaký je tam provoz to zas tak moc dobře zmapované není. Nebo je tam
hodně oblíbených "ilegálek" :)



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> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Rychlebské stezky mají s OSM problém
>
>No, ona ta debata ukázala něco kapku jiného - jak to, že se to vůbec
>do OSM dostalo? Podle té debaty to fyzicky v terénu bylo na jeden den
>(dobrá, počítejme týden), beru že účastník akce to zmapuje, i když ve
>chvíli, kdy se to dostalo do mapy to pravděpodobně již nebyla pravda,
>ale 2 roky si nikdo nevšimne, že v terénu nic není? Přitom je tam
>provoz natolik velký, že je s tím problém?
>Jeseník ani Lipová nejsou velkoměsta, ale Lipová se coby lázně
>poslední dobou probírá, a fakt tam nikdo nenakoukne častěji?
>
>2017-10-20 13:40 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral :
>> Tak nakonec se to zdá v pořádku.
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Re: [Talk-cz] železniční dopravny

[Milan Cerny]

Díky za link, nastuduji o víkendu, je to složitější než se zdá.

Milan

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>
>Ahoj,
>
>Zkus 
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:WikiProjekt_%C4%8Cesko/Zna%C4%8Den%C3%AD_kolejov%C3%BDch_trat%C3%AD,
>
>Případně schéma OpenRailwayMap.
>
>Snad pomůže, Michal
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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo sito statistiche

[Lorenzo "Beba" Beltrami]

Bellissimo! Grazie!
Il titolo è fantastico e mi ricorda "Signore Dei Dischi" degli Skiantos! xD

Ho notato che building=* appare due volte nella lista.

Lorenzo

Il giorno 20 ottobre 2017 06:44, Fabrizio Tambussa  ha
scritto:

> È attivo il nuovo sito di statistiche:
> http://stats.openstreetmap.it
> Raccoglie i conteggi di alcuni tipi di oggetti creati a partire dal 1
> agosto scorso, suddivisi per utente.
> Ogni settimana al computo si aggiungono gli oggetti creati, non modificati
> o cancellati, e si aggiorna la classifica.
> Saluti
> Fabrizio
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Re: [Talk-cz] Rychlebské stezky mají s OSM problém

[Marián Kyral]

Ono se to nezdá, ale ČR, i když je malá, tak na počet mapperů je vlastně
docela velká. Loni na podzim jsme třeba byli o prodlouženém víkendu v
Jeseníku a okolí jsme si trochu prošli, ale šli jsme na opačnou stranu
(Zlatý Chlum) a další den pak Lesní bar. Moc jsme toho nestihli. Pokud
aktivně nemapuje někdo místní, tak může trvat docela dlouho, než se něco
aktualizuje.

Nedávno mi volala nějaká dáma (na netu si na mně dokonce našla číslo), že
jim někdo na jejich pozemku zakreslil parkoviště. Prý kdo je za to
zodpovědný. Nakonec jsem zjistil, že před lety půjčili na jednu sezónu
kousek pozemku místnímu soukromému ZOO, než si vybudují vlastní parkoviště.
No a někdo tam byl, parkoviště zmapoval, ale ani po otevření oficiálního
parkoviště nikdo to dočasné nesmazal. Zřejmě neměl důvod tam jezdit. No a po
pěti letech tam to parkoviště stále bylo, i když už to dávno nebyla pravda.

Takže bych se vůbec nedivil, pokud dané stezky někdo ze závodníků opravdu
stihl zakreslit. I kdyby byl ten závod jednodenní, tak příprava určitě jeden
den netrvala. Muselo se to naplánovat, vyznačit, upravit. Mohly se tam jet
nějaké tréninky a testovací jízdy.

Marián

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"No, ona ta debata ukázala něco kapku jiného - jak to, že se to vůbec
do OSM dostalo? Podle té debaty to fyzicky v terénu bylo na jeden den
(dobrá, počítejme týden), beru že účastník akce to zmapuje, i když ve
chvíli, kdy se to dostalo do mapy to pravděpodobně již nebyla pravda,
ale 2 roky si nikdo nevšimne, že v terénu nic není? Přitom je tam
provoz natolik velký, že je s tím problém?
Jeseník ani Lipová nejsou velkoměsta, ale Lipová se coby lázně
poslední dobou probírá, a fakt tam nikdo nenakoukne častěji?

2017-10-20 13:40 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral :
> Tak nakonec se to zdá v pořádku.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Rychlebské stezky mají s OSM problém

[Milan Cerny]

Zajímavé, podle Strava heatmap to musí být opravdu hojně navštěvované místo.
http://strava.github.io/iD/#background=MAPNIK=14.60/17.1858/50.2863
Na to jaký je tam provoz to zas tak moc dobře zmapované není. Nebo je tam hodně 
oblíbených "ilegálek" :)



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>
>No, ona ta debata ukázala něco kapku jiného - jak to, že se to vůbec
>do OSM dostalo? Podle té debaty to fyzicky v terénu bylo na jeden den
>(dobrá, počítejme týden), beru že účastník akce to zmapuje, i když ve
>chvíli, kdy se to dostalo do mapy to pravděpodobně již nebyla pravda,
>ale 2 roky si nikdo nevšimne, že v terénu nic není? Přitom je tam
>provoz natolik velký, že je s tím problém?
>Jeseník ani Lipová nejsou velkoměsta, ale Lipová se coby lázně
>poslední dobou probírá, a fakt tam nikdo nenakoukne častěji?
>
>2017-10-20 13:40 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral :
>> Tak nakonec se to zdá v pořádku.
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Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

[Richard]

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:13:12PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Frederik:
> 
> > I am appalled that after your abysmal OSM editing history where you more
> > often than not ignored existing customs rules, while *claiming* to
> > follow them, you're now building a service that entices others to do the
> > same.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> > On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 6:09 AM Christoph Hormann  wrote:
> >> This is a tool to perform automated edits as per the automated edits
> >> policy.  A resposible developer of such a tool should inform its users
> >> that making automated edits comes with certain requirements and that
> >> not following these rules can result in changes being reverted and user
> >> accounts being blocked.
> >>
> >
> 2017-10-14 13:06 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan :
> 
> > Christoph, I looked around Osmose and MapRoulette, and I don't see any
> > such warnings . Could you elaborate how you would like these kinds of tools
> > to promote good editing practices? Any UI ideas? I'll be happy to improve
> > our tools on making sure they meet community expectations.
> >
> 
> 
> I agree with Christoph and Frederik, that this is oviously a tool to
> perform (crowdsourced) automated edits, and although it is designed in a
> way to make them look like individual contributions, the automated editing
> guidelines should apply. I agree with Yuri that there is also (to some
> lesser extent, as the editing is not performed by the tool) some
> problematic potential in other QA tools like Osmose or "remote batch
> fixing" tools like MapRoulette.

it could be used as an automated editing tool but perhaps this was
not the intention of the author?
Because - if you wanted to do automated editing there are much easier
and quicker methods.

Of course therer are many ways the tool should be improved before it
is used.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Rychlebské stezky mají s OSM problém

[majka]

No, ona ta debata ukázala něco kapku jiného - jak to, že se to vůbec
do OSM dostalo? Podle té debaty to fyzicky v terénu bylo na jeden den
(dobrá, počítejme týden), beru že účastník akce to zmapuje, i když ve
chvíli, kdy se to dostalo do mapy to pravděpodobně již nebyla pravda,
ale 2 roky si nikdo nevšimne, že v terénu nic není? Přitom je tam
provoz natolik velký, že je s tím problém?
Jeseník ani Lipová nejsou velkoměsta, ale Lipová se coby lázně
poslední dobou probírá, a fakt tam nikdo nenakoukne častěji?

2017-10-20 13:40 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral :
> Tak nakonec se to zdá v pořádku.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Rychlebské stezky mají s OSM problém

[Marián Kyral]

Tak nakonec se to zdá v pořádku.

Marián

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Datum: 20. 10. 2017 12:47:17
Předmět: [Talk-cz] Rychlebské stezky mají s OSM problém
"Ahoj,
tak nám zase mažou data z OSM, protože se někomu nelíbí:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jan%20Mach%C3%A1%C4%8Dek/history#map=14/
50.2812/17.1688

> Rychlebské stezky have problems with people riding off the marked trails.
One of the sources about these non-marked trails is OSM. Forest owners push
us to stop this phenomenom otherwise they can slow down our development or
even close our trail centre.

Pod changeset 53093133 jsem přidal komentář:  http://www.openstreetmap.org/
changeset/53093133

Navrhuji počkat na reakci, pak revert a případně nastavit "bicycle=no". Co
myslíte?

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Ahoj,
tak nám zase mažou data z OSM, protože se někomu nelíbí:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jan%20Mach%C3%A1%C4%8Dek/history#map=14/
50.2812/17.1688

> Rychlebské stezky have problems with people riding off the marked trails.
One of the sources about these non-marked trails is OSM. Forest owners push
us to stop this phenomenom otherwise they can slow down our development or
even close our trail centre.

Pod changeset 53093133 jsem přidal komentář:  http://www.openstreetmap.org/
changeset/53093133

Navrhuji počkat na reakci, pak revert a případně nastavit "bicycle=no". Co
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Re: [OSRM-talk] error: undefined reference to 'boost::re_detail::cpp_regex_traits_implementation::transform

[Mateusz Loskot]

On 19 October 2017 at 23:42, Patrick Niklaus
 wrote:
> Hey,
>
> the primary difference to our build environment on Travis CI is that
> we build on Ubuntu 14.04 using boost 1.54:
> https://travis-ci.org/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/jobs/290183596#L1573
> It could be that this is a specific issue with boost 1.58 that was
> introduced by using a new symbol on `master`.

Possibly

> The error in question looks really weird. A wild guess might be there
> are two version of libboost on your system and OSRM picks up the wrong
> headers.

I removed all libboost* from the environment, reinstalled Boost 1.58.
I also took care to ensure there is no Boost in known locations in the
host Windows.
I added to CMakeLists.txt dumping of the Boost CMake variables:

-- 
BOOST_BASE_LIBRARIES=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_date_time.so;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_chrono.so;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_filesystem.so;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_iostreams.so;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_thread.so;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_system.so
-- Boost_INCLUDE_DIRS=/usr/include


No change.

Anyhow, I'm leaving this issue on backburnre until I have time to
investigate it myself.

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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo sito statistiche

[liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu]

Il 20/10/2017 06:44, Fabrizio Tambussa ha scritto:

È attivo il nuovo sito di statistiche:
http://stats.openstreetmap.it
Raccoglie i conteggi di alcuni tipi di oggetti creati a partire dal 1
agosto scorso, suddivisi per utente.
Ogni settimana al computo si aggiungono gli oggetti creati, non modificati
o cancellati, e si aggiorna la classifica.
Saluti
Fabrizio


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Re: [Talk-it] Attività della lista

[liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu]

Il 20/10/2017 10:50, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:

https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=14


Non mi ricordavo del forum, grazie, utile da leggere, per il resto seguo 
sicuramente la mailing list.


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Re: [Talk-it] Attività della lista

[Alessandro Palmas]

Il 20/10/2017 07:33, Luca Delucchi ha scritto:



Non penso sia un buon primato, in special modo visto che poi quando si 
organizzano eventi pochi partecipano e quando si devono fare attività 
sono sempre gli stessi a farle (grazie mille), la maggior parte delle 
discussioni è su come mappare un determinato oggetto e spesso non si 
arriva ad una conclusione condivisa...
Secondo me il numero di mail non rappresenta la qualità della comunità 
ma nel nostro caso l'italianità, parlare tanto ma fare poco,  a 
differenza dei tedeschi, poco chiacchere e tanto fare.


Questa è la mia visione e non risponderò ad altre mail sull'argomento 
(per non alimentare il nostro primato :-) )




Ben conscio che questa mail aumenterà il contatore sono completamente 
d'accordo con Luca.


Come avevo già scritto forse un paio di mesi fa se togliamo dal 
conteggio le discussioni su tutti gli oggetti che messi assieme non 
raggiungono lo 0,001% del totale questi numeri calano drasticamente.
Sarà forse l'effetto Facebook che sta travolgendo la società (il 
fuffapower lo definirei)?


Per le statistiche mi concentrerei più sul risibile numero di eventi 
italiani http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Current_events
E' facile dire che gli oggetti vanno mappati sul posto ma vedo ancora 
che in grosse città manca una straccio di comunità locale (che la si 
ottiene organizzando eventi grandi o piccoli, non necessariamente 
mapping party): visto che a moltissimi piace leggere le statistiche 
guardate il numero di POI nelle varie città e immediatamente saprete se 
lì è presente una comunità.


Ora in altro topic mi accingevo a rinnovare l'invito di collaborazione 
per l'organizzazione di SOTM2018: la prima mail del 22 agosto non ha 
avuto risposta, speriamo questa vada meglio.


Alessandro Ale_Zena_IT

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Activity Updates

[Brian Prangle]

Hi Rob

No need for thewalkthrough everyhting was very intuitive and easy to find.
The only downer is the inability to select multiple objects and perform one
tagging

Problems for bus routing software (Mentz Diva) were caused by: incorrect
complex junction configuration not permitting the desired route through;
turn restriction rather than an access restriction; ambiguous access
restriction; bus stop with incorrect route_ref

regards

Brian

On 19 October 2017 at 22:47, Rob Nickerson 
wrote:

> Great news.
>
> Can I enquire about two things: First did you use the iD walkthrough and
> if yes, how was it? Did it provide a full introduction or did you need to
> help with extra support too?
>
> And second, what sort of oddities did you get on the TfWM bus route
> plotting software? And how were they typically solved?
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Rob*
>
> On 19 October 2017 at 16:43, Brian Prangle  wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> 1. I'm back training Probation Pay Back Attendees with Anawim. I've
>> currently assigned our first new trainee the SE corner of Nuneaton to add
>> buildings and improve road alignments. Latest version of id is much
>> improved!
>> 2. I now have a direct link into TfWM's maintainer of NaPTAN bus stops
>> and we're working on a process for regular updates. I'll keep you uppdated
>> as to progress
>> 3. TfWM now plot their bus routes using a piece of software that uses OSM
>> data.It sometimes produces weird results that need some unentangling f the
>> OSM data, so we had good fun this week solving some of them
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Brian
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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo sito statistiche

[Andrea Albani]

>
>
> È anglo-piemontese, traducibile con "classifica così".
> saluti
>
>
Grazie, sia per la scelta del nome che per i contenuti.

Penso sarebbe utile se la colonna user contenesse il nome sotto forma di
link alla rispettiva user page. Che dici ?

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Re: [Talk-it] Attività della lista

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 20. Oct 2017, at 07:33, Luca Delucchi  wrote:
> 
> Secondo me il numero di mail non rappresenta la qualità della comunità ma nel 
> nostro caso l'italianità, parlare tanto ma fare poco,  a differenza dei 
> tedeschi, poco chiacchere e tanto fare. 



il numero di mail dimostra l’attività della comunità, però va detto, in altri 
paesi si usano anche altri mezzi di comunicazione, per esempio in Germania per 
il periodo da 2015, si usa soprattutto il forum: 
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=14
ci sono dei posts con più di 1000 risposte e centinaia di migliaia di 
visualizzazioni ciascuno...

Altri usano facebook, telegram etc.


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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo sito statistiche

[Simone Cortesi]

2017-10-20 6:44 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tambussa :

> È attivo il nuovo sito di statistiche:
> http://stats.openstreetmap.it
> Raccoglie i conteggi di alcuni tipi di oggetti creati a partire dal 1
> agosto scorso, suddivisi per utente.
> Ogni settimana al computo si aggiungono gli oggetti creati, non modificati
> o cancellati, e si aggiorna la classifica.
>

Grazie Sbiri,
ma grazie soprattutto per #impararci il piemontese con osm :)

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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo sito statistiche

[Max1234Ita]

Ottimo lavoro!

Però oltre alle classifiche "per argomento" ci starebbe bene anche una
classifica generale, che permetta di capire l'attività degli utenti non solo
relativa ad un particolare tipo di oggetto.


Ciao!
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Re: [Talk-cz] železniční dopravny

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Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project: Addresses and Postcodes

[Lester Caine]

On 20/10/17 06:05, Marc Gemis wrote:
> The full information that Nominatim knows for "WR12 7EP, United
> Kingdom" is shown on :
> http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=180306705
> It does list a collection of streets. What you see on osm.org is just
> a small set, which does not include the list of streets. The number of
> streets in a postal code really depends on the country, it might be a
> small number in the UK, but is large in e.g. Germany.

Actually
http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=65620674 is of
more interest in this discussion.
Should I have added a postcode to the highway object? Also should each
house have a name tag in addition to the house number? The information
on houses is complete in my book, but do we need to create additional
tags so that Nominatim lists the equivalent of the PAF file addresses?
If I add the names then the rendering becomes messy which is why I only
added the house number.

And I must update the postbox collection times ... that change some time
back :( ... but if those details were pulled from a secondary source ...

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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo sito statistiche

[Simone Saviolo]

Il giorno 20 ottobre 2017 06:44, Fabrizio Tambussa  ha
scritto:

> È attivo il nuovo sito di statistiche:
> http://stats.openstreetmap.it
>

Non è che su http://osmit3.wmflabs.org si potrebbe mettere un indice dei
siti presenti, per favore?

Ciao,

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Re: [Talk-cz] highway=track v landuse=residential?

[majka]

2017-10-20 9:22 GMT+02:00 Mikoláš Štrajt :
>
> V praxi se za koncem vesnice setkávám se smíšeným účelem, např. lesní/polní 
> cesty, které jsou zároveň příjezdovky k chatovým oblastem.

To přece nepopírám a o tyhle cesty nejde. Mě ale zajímá cesta ve
vesnici či městě, nadto v území zdůrazněném jako obytná zóna (tenhle
výklad "landuse=residential" je samozřejmě můj a nepřesný), průmyslová
či obchodní zóna. A v katastru to může být klidně jako užitková
komunikace, ostatní komunikace nebo rovnou jen ostatní plocha.

@jzvc:
Ať wiki zkoumám jak zkoumám, česky nebo anglicky, "Tuto značku
nepoužívejte pro zakreslování veřejných nezpevněných cest v
zastavěných oblastech" z toho jednoznačně čtu. Fakt jsem NIKDE nenašla
nic jiného, a hledala jsem poctivě co to dalo. V Pravidlech pro Česko
"track" řešený není. Zcela upřímně by mě odkaz správným směrem
potěšil.

A prosím Tě, kde bydlíš a pohybuješ se, že očekáváš, že ulice
(residential) nebude kvalitou polňačka mezi barákama, o chodnících
nemluvě? Sice se hodně změnilo a mění, ale tohle opravdu není všude
ani vzdáleně pravda. A opravdu nemusíš daleko na venkov - vím o dost
takových v místech dosažitelných MHD krajského města, stačí kousek
popojít mimo hlavní silnici.

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Re: [Talk-cz] highway=track v landuse=residential?

[Vladimír Slávik]

Ahoj,
z tohoto předpokladu taky vycházím když občas taguju track uvnitř
residential. Definice na wiki sice naznačuje že to má být mimo sídla, ale
reálně si člověk spojí track s tím že je to krpál a stav cesty se řídí podle
počasí, v kontrastu s kvalitní vozovkou jinde. To mi přijde jako víc zásadní
informace než je/není uvnitř polygonu X. Kde cesta leží totiž poznám z mapy
_bez ohledu na tagování_ - právě to že to vlastně _není_ residential je ta
informace kterou potřebuji/potřebujeme...
V.

"Pricemz od ulice (residential) v CR se ocekava, ze to rozhodne nebude
polnacka mezi barakama. Dokonce pro CR plati, ze obvykle (tzn ne vzdy
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Re: [Talk-it] qualità dei dati OSM nel territorio italiano

[Marcello Parisini]

Grazie Gianfranco! Anche a tutti gli altri per le utili informazioni
Marcello
 

On Thursday, October 19, 2017 5:17 PM, gianfranco g  
wrote:
 

 Ciao Marcello.Il tuo riferimento alle aree rurali rende la risposta  alla tua 
domanda ancora più difficile. Tutti gli strumenti usualmente sviluppati sono 
indirizzati alle aree urbane.Pochi lavori puntano la loro attenzione alle aree 
extraurbane più che altro tendono a vedere la qualità di mappe di uso del suolo 
o la popolarità di elementi naturali. Nessun lavoro di quelli che conosco io è 
stato fatto in Italia o su dati Italiani. Sono principalmente Tedeschi e 
Irlandesi.
Ciao
Gianfranco

On 19 Oct 2017 09:58, "Marcello Parisini"  wrote:

Ciao,premetto che non sono un esperto di openstreetmap ma per una attività di 
ricerca legata alle aree rurali in italia sto valutandone l'impiego.
Ho già cercato online qualcosa che spiegasse i processi o le migliori pratiche 
che sono attualmente in vigore nel chapter italiano di OSM per le 
considerazioni legate alla qualità dei dati ma non ho trovato un granché. Anche 
nell'archivio della lista, a parte qualche scambio di consigli nell'utilizzo 
dei tag non ho trovato nulla che trattasse l'argomento.Ho quindi le seguenti 
domande per coloro che sono più esperti e navigati in questi ambiti:   
   - esistono dei materiali dove si mostrano analisi sullo stato dei dati di 
OSM in Italia (possibilmente sia geografici che dei relativi tag)
   - esistono procedure automatizzate specifiche che effettuano alcuni 
controlli per garantire il rispetto dei formalismi sui tag di base, ovvero cosa 
sappiamo di certo essere affidabile e cosa no?
   - esistono localmente iniziative per migliorare la qualità di quanto ad oggi 
presente?
   - esiste un elenco di organizzazioni pubbliche e private che ufficialmente 
impiegano OSM e che curano i propri contenuti su di esso ? (anche estere a 
patto che lavorino su dati nel territorio italiano)

Grazie,Marcello
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Re: [Talk-cz] železniční dopravny

[Mikoláš Štrajt]

Výhybna by podle wiki měla být railway=crossover,
viz http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:WikiProjekt_%C4%8Cesko/Zna%C4%8
Den%C3%AD_kolejov%C3%BDch_trat%C3%AD#Prvky_.C5.BEelezni.C4.8Dn.C3.AD_stanice

OpenRailwayMap by to měla vykreslovat, ale asi budeš první, kdo to v čechách
zaznačil.
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Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 20. 10. 2017 9:20:44
Předmět: [Talk-cz] železniční dopravny
"Ahoj, aktuálně se v mém okolí přestavuje železniční stanice na dopravnu bez
možnosti odbavení cestujících. Samostatná zastávka bude o kus dál na trati,
podobně jako Praha - Bubeneč / Podbaba.
Jak takovou dopravnu otagovat? Z dopravního pohledu to stanice je, tedy
railway=station, k tomu něco jako public_transport=no. Jde o to, aby se
stanice nezobrazovala v seznamu stanic pro osobní dopravu.
Stejně tak nejsou tagy pro "malé" dopravny typu hradlo, hláska, nakladiště
nebo odbočka. V mapě je často jen jméno na budově, či výhybce, což není
úplně to pravé.

Milan

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Re: [Talk-cz] highway=track v landuse=residential?

[Mikoláš Štrajt]

-- Původní e-mail --
Od: Majka 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 19. 10. 2017 22:04:55
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] highway=track v landuse=residential? 
"
"highway=track" přece není nezpevněná, úzká nebo rozsekaná cesta, ale
"silnice pro zemědělství, lesnictví atd." - " Tuto značku nepoužívejte pro
zakreslování veřejných nezpevněných cest v zastavěných oblastech" - to v
uvozovkách je z wiki."



to je teorie. 




V praxi se za koncem vesnice setkávám se smíšeným účelem, např. lesní/polní
cesty, které jsou zároveň příjezdovky k chatovým oblastem.




Nebo "lesní cesta" po který vesele jezdí jak lesáci tak obyvatelé chatky,
která je na mýtině v lese. Tenhle případ je zajímavý tím, že v tom lese jsou
závory (pro moto-houbařům) i na těch lesáckých asfaltkách a tady zrovna je
ta závora je záměrně odmontovaná.




Nebo "polní cesta" spojující dvě vesnice, kde většinou jezdí spíš traktory
(na pole), ale občas tam projíždí i nějaký místní občan, chatař nebo dokonce
kamion vezoucí dřevo na pilu (vtipné je, že u pily se špatně otáčí, tak jede
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[Talk-cz] železniční dopravny

[Milan Cerny]

Ahoj, aktuálně se v mém okolí přestavuje železniční stanice na dopravnu bez 
možnosti odbavení cestujících. Samostatná zastávka bude o kus dál na trati, 
podobně jako Praha - Bubeneč / Podbaba. 
Jak takovou dopravnu otagovat?  Z dopravního pohledu to stanice je, tedy 
railway=station, k tomu něco jako public_transport=no. Jde o to, aby se stanice 
nezobrazovala v seznamu stanic pro osobní dopravu.
Stejně tak nejsou tagy pro "malé" dopravny typu hradlo, hláska, nakladiště nebo 
odbočka. V mapě je často jen jméno na budově, či výhybce, což není úplně to 
pravé.

Milan

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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo sito statistiche

[Gianluca Boero]

Confermo :-)

Complimenti Fabrizio...ottimo lavoro.


Il 20/10/2017 08:04, Fabrizio Tambussa ha scritto:



Il 20/Ott/2017 07:40, "Federico Cortese" > ha scritto:


2017-10-20 6:44 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tambussa >:
> È attivo il nuovo sito di statistiche:
> http://stats.openstreetmap.it

Grazie Fabrizio, ottimo lavoro!
Ma perchè il titolo "Hit Parei"?


È anglo-piemontese, traducibile con "classifica così".
saluti


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] contact

[Jean-Christophe Becquet]

Le 20/10/2017 02:31, Philippe Verdy a écrit :
> N'oublie pas de demander la mise en place d'une page web sur
> l'événement, à ajouter vite dans le calendrier du wiki !

Et dans l'Agenda du libre avec le tag openstreetmap
https://www.agendadulibre.org
https://www.agendadulibre.org/tags/openstreetmap

Bonne journée

JC
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Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo sito statistiche

[Fabrizio Tambussa]

Il 20/Ott/2017 07:40, "Federico Cortese"  ha scritto:

2017-10-20 6:44 GMT+02:00 Fabrizio Tambussa :
> È attivo il nuovo sito di statistiche:
> http://stats.openstreetmap.it

Grazie Fabrizio, ottimo lavoro!
Ma perchè il titolo "Hit Parei"?


È anglo-piemontese, traducibile con "classifica così".
saluti
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