Re: [OSM-ja] Plateauインポートの進め方と再開について

2023-09-15 Thread yuu hayashi
hayashiです

私のほうで第一段階まで完了した生成物をサイトに公開しております。

http://surveyor.mydns.jp/osm-data/

1メッシュ単位で作業ができるように分割しているので作業に取り掛かりやすいと思います。


2023年9月12日(火) 8:51 Satoshi IIDA :

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Re: [OSM-talk] When two bots go to war

2023-09-15 Thread Andy Townsend

On 15/09/2023 10:43, Paul Norman wrote:
They have edited it back with 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141281494. I've left a 
changeset discussion comment asking why, and asking for a link to the 
required documentation and consultation.



Maybe I'm being over-cynical, but I suspect that that may not work :)

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/15054

That's just "until a human reads it" - I've asked the bot to forward it 
to their tame human :) .  When one does, they can hopefully take the 
action required and document things properly, and we can point them at 
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=18539679 to 
address any other issues in their data.


Best Regards,

Andy (from the DWG)




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Re: [OSM-talk] When two bots go to war

2023-09-15 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

aside from these apparently being undocumented bot edits, I'm also 
somewhat skeptical of their "healthcare:speciality" tag. It sounds 
terribly like advertising. It essentially covers everything you would 
expect a dentist to do - so why is healthcare=dentist not sufficient?


Bye
Frederik

On 15.09.23 11:43, Paul Norman wrote:
They have edited it back with 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141281494. I've left a changeset 
discussion comment asking why, and asking for a link to the required 
documentation and consultation.


On 2023-09-14 12:36 a.m., Cj Malone wrote:

On Tue, 2023-09-12 at 15:06 +0200, Snusmumriken via talk wrote:

My speculation is that Distriktstandvården (a chain of dental
clinics)
has taken "ownership" of "their" nodes and once a day check that the
values in osm database correspond to that of their internal database.

I've added a more specific website tag to test this. If they restore it
(Probably 03:00) to the generic home page I agree with you. They need
to be informed that 1) there data needs improving (eg covid opening
hours, POI specific not brand specific contact details) 2) they don't
own these nodes, other people can edit them.

CJ

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141243391


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Re: [OSM-talk] When two bots go to war

2023-09-15 Thread Paul Norman
They have edited it back with 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141281494. I've left a changeset 
discussion comment asking why, and asking for a link to the required 
documentation and consultation.


On 2023-09-14 12:36 a.m., Cj Malone wrote:

On Tue, 2023-09-12 at 15:06 +0200, Snusmumriken via talk wrote:

My speculation is that Distriktstandvården (a chain of dental
clinics)
has taken "ownership" of "their" nodes and once a day check that the
values in osm database correspond to that of their internal database.

I've added a more specific website tag to test this. If they restore it
(Probably 03:00) to the generic home page I agree with you. They need
to be informed that 1) there data needs improving (eg covid opening
hours, POI specific not brand specific contact details) 2) they don't
own these nodes, other people can edit them.

CJ

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141243391


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Re: [OSM-talk] When two bots go to war

2023-09-15 Thread Andrew Hain
Is there a bot that does this or is someone prepared to write one?

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From: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) 
Sent: 14 September 2023 10:39
To: talk@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] When two bots go to war

Maybe there should be a general good-practice recommendation / policy
that bots running in this fashion to keep things in sync should only
automatically add/update/remove a tag that they've previously set if
the current state/value in OSM is unchanged from the last state/value
that the bot set. This way, bots could be used to keep things up to
date automatically, but would not automatically override any manually
applied changes by other mappers between runs. (A sensible bot owner
would have the bot send them a report of any tags that couldn't be
updated for manual review.)

Robert.

On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 08:41, Cj Malone
 wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2023-09-12 at 15:06 +0200, Snusmumriken via talk wrote:
> > My speculation is that Distriktstandvården (a chain of dental
> > clinics)
> > has taken "ownership" of "their" nodes and once a day check that the
> > values in osm database correspond to that of their internal database.
>
> I've added a more specific website tag to test this. If they restore it
> (Probably 03:00) to the generic home page I agree with you. They need
> to be informed that 1) there data needs improving (eg covid opening
> hours, POI specific not brand specific contact details) 2) they don't
> own these nodes, other people can edit them.
>
> CJ
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141243391


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