[Talk-GB] State of the map Scotland International Development Fair
Hi, I am just putting out a request for volunteers for the Openstreetmap International Development Fair on Wed 30th September in Edinburgh. I could do with some help to host the Openstreetmap table and to help people with the projectors for talks. The details of the event which is the first day of State of the map Scotland are here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Scotland_2015/Day_1 please contact me if you have some free time All the best Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Openstreetmap Foundation Charity Number
Hi, I am just about to post an advert in the big issue for our International Development Fair http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Scotland_2015/Day_1 and I get to save paying vat if I have a charity number. I know the Openstreetmap Foundation company number https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Main_Page Does anyone have any suggestions or will I just have to pay the VAT Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Cities: Skylines - Openstreetmap data
Has anyone played with this, It seems to be getting good press https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=416064574 Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads
On residential roads where there has been a ref= added is being rendered on Mapnik. Is this something new since I have not been checking recently. This is all over the highlands https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/57.5695/-4.4282 Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Police Scotland
Police Scotland are using our map http://www.scotland.police.uk/your-community/edinburgh/ Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] OS six-inch England ans Wales 1852-1952
This has been forwarded to me by Christopher Fleet from the National Library of Scotland They are in the process of georeferencing the images but I thought it best to let you know now Subject: New website - OS six-inch England and Wales, 1852-1952 We are very pleased to announce the availability of a new website resource - zoomable colour images of the Ordnance Survey's six-inch to the mile (1:10,560) mapping of England and Wales. All our map digitisation work in recent years has been externally funded, hence the recent expansion of our map images beyond Scotland. This is the most detailed OS topographic mapping covering all of England and Wales from the 1840s to the 1950s. It was revised for the whole country twice between 1842-1893 and between 1891-1914, and then updated regularly for urban or rapidly changing areas from 1914 to the 1940s. Our holdings are made up of 37,390 sheets, including 35,124 quarter sheets, and 2,237 full sheets. The easiest way of finding sheets is through a clickable graphic index using our 'Find by Place' viewer: http://maps.nls.uk/openlayers.cfm?id=39 This allows searching through a gazetteer of placenames, street names, postcodes and Grid References, as well as by zooming in on an area of interest with smaller-scale locational mapping as a backdrop. The sheets are also available via county lists: http://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch-england-and-wales/counties.html We plan to also make georeferenced mosaics available of the series by the late summer. OS six-inch England and Wales home page: http://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch-england-and-wales/index.html Further information: http://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch-england-and-wales/info1.html ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Crowdsourced boats to map the seas : BBC Article - video
Hi, Short video on crowndsourcing using GPS and depth guages from the BBC, suggests they will release the data http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26231350 Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Spread the OSM message (Steve Chilton)
Hi, OpenGlasgow are working with Shawlands academy http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/55.83064/-4.28332 I have just been teaching the teachers how to use Openstreetmap. They are forming a project where they get the pupils to explore their community. It has just started but they have funding etc and should be finnished by the summer, I shall forward the details of the conference to them. I would be willing to join up for some Glasgow mapping. Cheers Bob On Thu, 13/2/14, Fozy 81 foz...@hotmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Spread the OSM message (Steve Chilton) To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Thursday, 13 February, 2014, 18:33 Hi Steve, I'll spread the word locally with the OSM community about SoC event in Glasgow and see if anyone can give a presentation. I like to think a lot of the map data is 'hidden' in Glasgow. What we miss in buildings etc we make up for in bus routes, cycle parking and 3D tags :-P But yes, a mapping party is always appreciated! There's a fair few notes on the map just around the university which could make a nice break for attendees to look at? But if you want to pick an area and go map - that would be great. Put it on the wiki and get the local mappers can support. BTW There is a Glasgow OSM meetup is on the 18th August: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Scotland#Welcome Thanks, Tim From: talk-gb-requ...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 12:00:02 + Send Talk-GB mailing list submissions to talk-gb@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-gb-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-gb-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Talk-GB digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: name=Flooding (jonathan) 2. Urban Data Hack, London, Feb 15th/16th (Dan S) 3. Re: Urban Data Hack, London, Feb 15th/16th (Robert Scott) 4. Re: name=Flooding (Shaun McDonald) 5. Spread the OSM message (Steve Chilton) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:25:48 + From: jonathan jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: Kate Chapman kate.chap...@hotosm.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] name=Flooding Message-ID: 52fb684c@bigfatfrog67.me Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I agree it isn't, however, considering the current conditions some parts of the country are experiencing, the continuing weather forecasts of more to come and the fact that the ground water is so high that this water won't be going anywhere soon, then perhaps we should apply some tagging to areas that people have kindly already mapped. Maybe highways should be marked as impassable? The Highways Agency etc are producing such lists. We would need to revisit these areas to remove it as they subside but this information is invaluable to many people, agencies, charities, gov departments etc. There's also a historical benefit having areas mapped as having previously flooded, either as live ways tagged accordingly or as old deleted ways that nevertheless are still accessible. If the HOT team had been activated for this then we would be doing this sort of thing just as has been done in many other parts of the World. I'm beginning to think we are not stepping up to provide this unique mapping requirement that no other mapping service is providing. Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 10/02/2014 17:29, Steve Doerr wrote: Is this an appropriate use of the name tag? http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search.php?q=Flooding%2C+Burrowbridge Steve ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:46:08 + From: Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com To: Talk GB talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Urban Data Hack, London, Feb 15th/16th Message-ID: CANuikkoWLzKnDBTEpkXskcQqkzG9ar=u1x-vokcbff_m0o+...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all - Urban Data Hack, London, Feb 15th/16th, possibly interesting to people here: http://urbandatahack.com/ They have some specific datasets to work with, not osm but geo. (Is it appropriate to post this kind of thing on talk-gb ? I'm not associated with the
Re: [Talk-GB] Possible vandalism? New Forth Road Bridge being changed to motorway from construction
I have sent a message as well Cheers Bob On Sun, 9/2/14, Donald Noble drno...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: [Talk-GB] Possible vandalism? New Forth Road Bridge being changed to motorway from construction To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, 9 February, 2014, 20:32 Hi All, The user robbief14 [1] has changed sections of the M90 around the New Forth Road Bridge which are still currently under construction to live motorway. They had also deleted all of the tags for the current road bridge. I therefore reverted this changeset before further changes were made, and send a polite email asking why they had done it and if they realise they were affecting the map for everyone. No response to this message, however they have changed the crossing back to motorway. See [2] below for relevant changesets. I would appreciate somebody else trying to contact this user. regards, Donald [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/robbief14[2] original changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20442315my revert: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20452252 changed back to motorway again: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20458591 -- Donald Noble http://drnoble.co.uk - http://flickr.com/photos/drnoble -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSM in Linux Format magazine
Also in the Guardian an article http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/14/why-the-world-needs-openstreetmap Cheers Bob On Fri, 17/1/14, Paul Williams pjwde...@googlemail.com wrote: Subject: [Talk-GB] OSM in Linux Format magazine To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Friday, 17 January, 2014, 0:01 I'd like to report that there is not one - but two articles about OSM in the February 2014 issue of Linux Format magazine (this is actually the issue on sale now, in February they'll be selling the March issue!). This is the second time I've seen an OSM article in this magazine - there was previously one in November 2012. Firstly there is a two page question and answer style What on Earth is OpenStreetMap article, and then there is a four page tutorial on how to contribute to OpenStreetMap. In addition, on the Who we are section of page 3 it asks the magazine's writers what kind of map they would like to make - such as a map of all local pubs, with a comprehensive guide to the available snacks and to map the hidden depths of Hull. Available now from all good newsagents (or at least from WHSmith) for £6.49. Cheers, Paul Williams (Paul The Archivist) -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Notes feature
Maybe we could use it to make an note for mapping parties, social events and conferences too Bob From: Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com To: Talk GB talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2013, 16:15 Subject: [Talk-GB] Notes feature It seems that some businesses are starting to use the notes feature to identify their location, thinking it's just like Googlemaps perhaps. I think we should encourage this by separating the notes function into 2 , adequately labelled, one for place your business/event here and one for map improvement needed here Regards Brian ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] State of the map Scotland 2013 - 6 days away
Counting down to State of the map Scotland 2013 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Scotland_2013 Please send out messages to your social media of choice Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] State of the Map Scotland 2013 October 11th-13th
Hi, We have a good selection of speakers set up from outside the community on Friday for State of the map Scotland 2013 - Including International Rescue Corps. We would like to see if there are volunteers that would like to present info for either the 20 minute of 10 minute sessions on the Saturday. We are also having a hackday on Sunday at techcube and would welcome tutors to step forward to teach new folk basics as well as joining in on larger hacking projects If there is any way of advertising the event that would also be useful. Finally we will be looking for a different location for State of the map Scotland 2014. Preferably a little more north. Please let me know. State of the map Scotland 2013 Details wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_Scotland_2013 Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] State of the Map Scotland 2013 October 11-12 - Speakers
Hi, We are starting to organise speakers for State of the map Scotland. I know everyone will be busy with SOTM2013 but if there are people that would like to give talks at our event please let me know Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] UN uses OSM as background map
Not sure if anyone else has seen this but I thought I would post. UN uses OSM(Mapquestopen) as background for Global Risk Data Platform http://preview.grid.unep.ch/index.php?preview=maplang=eng ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Edinburgh Pub meeting tommorow
Everyone welcome http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Social_Events Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Human Swarm 4od ITO Maps
Nice Seeing ITO maps including some with Openstreetmap attribution on Human Swarm last night http://www.channel4.com/programmes/human-swarm/4od The program is about how we make decisions depending on the weather. You can see the first flash oh ITO within the first minute. There is more Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up some shop tags
I assume that this is for the UK shops and not world wide using the uk taginfo site http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/ cheers Bob From: sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2013, 14:25 Subject: [Talk-GB] Tidying up some shop tags I propose to tidy up some shop=* tag values. I am not certain of the full scope, but here are ones I do know about: * to shop=bookmaker from bookmakers, bookies, Bookmaker, Bookmakers, bookmarkers,turf_accountant [shop=betting has nearly as many uses as shop=bookmaker, and shop=gambling also exists] * to shop=clothes from clothing [shop=fashion also exists] * to shop=books from bookstore * to shop=comics from comic, comicbook * to shop=alcohol from off_licence, offlicense, offlicence, off_license * to shop=vacant from shop=empty shop=closed, shop=currently_unlet, shop=former_florist, shop=Vacant (but not shop=disused) * to shop=pet from shop=pets, pet_shop * to shop=carpet from shop=carpets (and various combos of CarpetRIght) * to shop=beauty from shop=beauty_salon * to shop=locksmith from shop=keycutting * to amenity=fast_food, cuisine=fish_and_chips from shop=fish_and_chips * to amenity=fast_food, cuisine=sandwich from shop=sandwich shop I think these all reflect reallocation to more widely used tags. There are plenty of values of shop which would benefit from some consolidation, such as the many different varieties of shops selling furnishings (blinds, curtains, ) and sporting goods (golf,ski_hire ...) which could do with a single overall value and adjectival tagging for the detail. I must say the combos shop=fish, shop=fishmonger and shop=fishing are likely to lead to confusion. In particular is shop=fish a fishmonger, a pet shop or an angling shop? I am not sure if some people tag shop=laundry for dry cleaners or of they are always separate Personally it makes sense to combine cleaning services (ironing, repair, dry cleaning, steam laundry etc) of this type under a single tag. Some retailers seem to cause particular problems in choosing an appropriate tag. Wilkinsons are variously tagged as supermarkets, hardware, variety and department_store. In addition the name is often entered without the 's'. I'm sure others have noticed other things or have particular nit picking about shop=* values. Regards, Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Writing a howto wiki page for mapping golf courses
Hi, I have been spending a lot of time looking at Taginfo and golf courses. I would like to layout the best way to map a golf course based on what I have found. I was thinking of creating a page HOWTO map a golf course 2013 This is not a proposal for tags, I would link to Taginfo pages of tags that are already used, this would just help with data consistency. My reasoning comes from the idea that mappers like a challenge like a golf course, much like they do a zoo. In Scotland there are between 530-630 golf courses. This would be useful if the data were consistent. It would also get the golfing community talking about openstreetmap and there are a considerable number of golfers Are there any precedents for HOWTO pages Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Writing a howto wiki page for mapping golf courses
Thanks, I have seen Richards page before but I am a lot further on, I have found out that there are something like 50 tags ranging from golf=tee_area, amenity=shelter, landuse=grass, golf=ball_washer. I noticed that there are even some folk that are attempting to put in pars and indexes. I just think that there is some documentation that needs to be done. So I am volunteering. Is there no precedent for HOWTO documents like there are with other opensource projects? Cheers Bob From: sk53.osm sk53@gmail.com To: Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2013, 12:07 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Writing a howto wiki page for mapping golf courses Have you seen Richard Weait's page on this subject : http://weait.com/node/21. And fewer of those named ways to make the hole names look nice :-) Jerry On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi, I have been spending a lot of time looking at Taginfo and golf courses. I would like to layout the best way to map a golf course based on what I have found. I was thinking of creating a page HOWTO map a golf course 2013 This is not a proposal for tags, I would link to Taginfo pages of tags that are already used, this would just help with data consistency. My reasoning comes from the idea that mappers like a challenge like a golf course, much like they do a zoo. In Scotland there are between 530-630 golf courses. This would be useful if the data were consistent. It would also get the golfing community talking about openstreetmap and there are a considerable number of golfers Are there any precedents for HOWTO pages Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Taginfo Golf Tags
Thanks for all the help and the links, As I have cleared up some of the obvious mistakes for the golf tag like using capital letters in tags, has there ever been a precedent where someone adopts a tag. For example if I say that I am going to adopt the golf=** in english for one year. I would put my name up on the wiki page as adoptee. P.S. I like the lines on the pitches and the way that the trees are done too. Cheers Bob From: Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 15:59 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Taginfo Golf Tags Thanks to Ed John. I really like the white lines pitch markings. Dave F. On 11/04/2013 02:38, John Baker wrote: The French OSM site has worldwide mapnik rendering of golf courses and nifty sports pitches mapped too. http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=16lat=48.72648lon=2.60806layers=B0 I imagine they will be migrated to osm.org when cartoCSS eventually goes live. Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 01:35:41 +0100 From: dave...@madasafish.com To: openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk CC: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Taginfo Golf Tags On 05/04/2013 15:04, Bob Kerr wrote: Hi, I have been looking at TagInfo for tags with golf= There are a number of tags which are golf=Tee instead of golf=tee. Is there any easy way that I find out where these tags are located so that I can correct them. Hi Again Bob Just discovered in Taginfo there's a similar, but quicker site to the one I suggested earlier. In the top right of the screen there's an icon next to where it says XPI JOSM (looks a bit like a 3 spoked steering wheel). Clicking on it takes you to another site. Left hand side you can amend the key value then click Run. BTW, are there any renderings that show golf course details like tees, bunkers, greens etc? It's a shame mapnik doesn't. Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Taginfo Golf Tags
Hi, I have been looking at TagInfo for tags with golf= There are a number of tags which are golf=Tee instead of golf=tee. Is there any easy way that I find out where these tags are located so that I can correct them. Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] State of the Map Scotland : Edinburgh: This Friday 19th -20th October
OK, We have an excellent venue We have 67 booked in and are expecting another 30 walkins. We have an amazing set of speakers that are coming to meet with Openstreetmap.org because they realise how important it is becoming and share a common interest in the upsurge of interest in GIS Speakers list here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_Scotland_2012#Area_1:_Main_Presentation_Area_-_Schedule We will have a small gallery of digital and paper maps, Spherical displays, and quadcopters. It should be an excellent event, I hope you can make it bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Edinburgh Pub meeting on Tuesday 18th Guildford arms
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Upcoming_Pub_Meetings We will be discussing among other things state of the map Scotland http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_Scotland_2012 Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] State of the Map Scotland 2012 October 19-20th Initial Organisation
Hi, This is to announce that State of the Map Scotland 2012 is going to take place on October 19-20th in Edinburgh. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_Scotland_2012 This e-mail is only an initial call to review the organisation of the conference. There is no booking at this time but will be available in a couple of weeks. Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] State of the map Scotland 2012 booking now open
Slight change of plans, Booking is now available http://sotms.eventbrite.com/ Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Meet up Edinburgh at Guildford arms tomorrow Tues 19th June
Hi we will be having a pub social in Edinburgh http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Social_Events We have been offered a photo lab with a wikipedia group, date still to be arranged. Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Request from National Library of Scotland concerning OS 7th Series
Hi,
I have been talking with Cristopher Fleet from the National Library of
Scotland. He is keen to promote the mapping services of the library to the
Openstreetmap Community and other groups that are interested. They have set up
various services including the OS 7th Series which is overlayed with a
transparent OSM Layer.
see
http://geo.nls.uk/search/mosaic/
Areas in Scotland, England and Wales are now available
Cristopher would like to make sure that the WMS layer is compatible with JOSM
so that future releases of data is available to us
From his e-mail
- - - - - - - - - -
The Ordnance Survey One-Inch to the mile Seventh Series of Great
Britain (1952-1961) is available as individual sheets
at http://maps.nls.uk/os/one-inch-seventh-series/index.html and as a
georeferenced layer athttp://geo.nls.uk/search/mosaic/ (in the left hand
drop-down list, choose “Great Britain – OS One Inch, 1955-61” ).
The MapTiler tileset is
at: http://geo.nls.uk/mapdata2/os/seventh/${z}/${x}/${y}.png
The Web Map Service is at:
http://geo.nls.uk/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=e:\\mapdata2\\os\\seventh\\mapserver.map;
These Seventh Series maps have been georeferenced by the National Library of
Scotland, with generous funding from Wilbourn Associates - further details
at http://geo.nls.uk/partners/wilbourn/
- - - - - - - - - - -
Cristopher has also posted this information on the OSM Wiki
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/7th_Series#National_Library_of_Scotland_Seventh_Series_mosaic
Unfortunately TimSC who was maintaining the 7th Series for OSM has decided not
to contribute further to OSM although I am not sure if he is still interested
in maintaining the 7th series WMS for other projects.
Is there anyone available to contact Cristopher concerning the National Library
of Scotland service?
If there is could you contact him on the E-mail address posted on the wiki
(reference number 6) or through me.
The folks at the NLS are really excellent and It would be very beneficial for
us and them to get more interaction going
Thanks in advance
Cheers
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[Talk-GB] Social meeting Edinburgh tommorow
Next Social meeting Tommorow 13th December at the Guilford Arms http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Social_Events Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Adopted Road list Scotland
I have spent some time compiling a list of Adopted Roads/Statutory list of Public Roads in Scotland by Region http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Scotland#Statutory_List_of_Roads From the links we can see the varied methods that the information is given out and how some have various copyrights on them, these can include Crown, OS, or Council Copyrights. Some do not obviously have copyright For those that have missed the blog Edinburgh Council are using our map http://edinburgh.cdmf.info/public/map/map.htm Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Field Data Scotland
I have recently been offered field data under the open knowledge licence from the Scottish Government. This is the first time I have interacted with the government and would like to make use of the data but at the same time not step on anyones toes. Although I have not yet seen the data I have been told that it will mainly include the shapes and positions of the fields. I have not done any large imports of data before and I am aware of the difficulties that this can cause. My question is has anyone ever imported field data before and are there any problems that I should look for before even contemplating doing this. cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Field Data Scotland
The data is recent because it was used to check farmers subsidies, and it does include boundary data, when I get it I would definitely break it down to much smaller areas. I'll find out more about the licence. Cheers Bob From: Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, 15 August 2011, 13:15 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Field Data Scotland On 15/08/2011 10:34, Bob Kerr wrote: I have recently been offered field data under the open knowledge licence from the Scottish Government. I can't comment on the compatibility of the license. I assume the data include field boundaries. What age is the data? Please be wary of a large import overwriting more recent ways. Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Open Source, Geo Health Workshop
There are still a few places available for this event in Edinburgh, http://open-geo-and-health.eventbrite.com/ Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey - State of the Map Scotland
Hi, Is there anyone here that has connections with OS. We are hoping that we might get some representatives along to State of the Map Scotland. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_Scotland_2011 We are hoping that we can start a discussion on how to use the OS brand and Openstreetmap.org lobby to persuade local councils in Scotland to release their street name data in a standard open format for the mutual benefit of all. If anyone has any contacts please invite them along Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] DevCSI / GECO Open Mapping Workshop Glasgow 25th August
Hi, The day before the State of the Map Scotland conference there is a workshop which is being held at the same location http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/events/devcsi/open-mapping-workshop/ So if you are coming along for SOTMS then please check out the website Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] UK broadband map from Telegraph
I Thought this might be of interest to a few http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/broadband/8620931/UK-broadband-mapped.html I can't see any correlation between OSM uptake and broadband Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation
Excellent, much better than my idea of tags This would bring me to the visualisation done by Chris Harrison on visualising wikipedia http://www.chrisharrison.net/projects/wikiviz/index.html and http://www.chrisharrison.net/projects/clusterball/ is there any value in something like this for increasing the quality of our wiki/documentation Cheers Bob From: Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011, 21:29 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation Have a look at how Wikipedia uses categories. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Jul 3, 2011 9:43 AM, Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi, I was thinking last night about the ITO Analysis heat map as a tool that motivates people to look into doing some mapping in different area's. http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/map_browser I was wondering what statistics are available that we could use to make an interactive visualisation/map of the quality/last time edited of the pages on the wiki. I think analysing the whole wiki might be too confusing but maybe a smaller subset like tags might be worth experimenting on. If we had a map which shows which tags have been accepted, which are proposed and not voted on, which are proposed and abandoned, which set of tags are confusing or need to be rethought. I am definitely thinking of a map and not a series of graphs, I would need to be able to zoom in on a proposal that has not be acted on for a year so that I could deleted it, If we gave the wiki page itself some tags page=proposal date:started=01/01/2011 voting=02/07/2011 If we had a voting tag then we can show which proposals are currently being voted on spanish=no needs translation duplication= wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ cleanup= yes for areas that we need more documentation we can create a page then add the tag page=not started My mind is wandering a bit this morning so if this sounds daft please ignore Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation
I am not going to delete anything, I am trying to suggest a method where we can take control of the wiki, in a similar way that we control the map data. We tag the wiki pages we could also use things like page=application_description page=instruction page=introduction page=reference Cheers Bob From: woll w...@2-islands.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011, 16:31 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation Bob Kerr wrote: I would need to be able to zoom in on a proposal that has not be acted on for a year so that I could deleted it, Please don't delete 'old' proposals. They should 'never' be deleted, so that next time someone thinks of a similar proposal they can use the previous one as a starting point (or use it to realise why the proposal was not a good one). -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Documentation-and-Visualisation-tp6542810p6543328.html Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation Proposal = dead
We could add proposal= dead to the wiki page then we can filter all the dead pages so see all the things that have been proposed and see what has been done before Cheers Bob From: Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk To: woll w...@2-islands.com; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011, 16:43 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation I am not going to delete anything, I am trying to suggest a method where we can take control of the wiki, in a similar way that we control the map data. We tag the wiki pages we could also use things like page=application_description page=instruction page=introduction page=reference Cheers Bob From: woll w...@2-islands.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011, 16:31 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Documentation and Visualisation Bob Kerr wrote: I would need to be able to zoom in on a proposal that has not be acted on for a year so that I could deleted it, Please don't delete 'old' proposals. They should 'never' be deleted, so that next time someone thinks of a similar proposal they can use the previous one as a starting point (or use it to realise why the proposal was not a good one). -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Documentation-and-Visualisation-tp6542810p6543328.html Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Edinburgh pub meeting tomorrow
We are having a pub meeting tomorrow details here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Social_Events We hope to be discussing State of the Map Scotland http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_Scotland_2011 cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot
So the question is, who is going to come forward and write the bot, and who is going to come forward to write documentation. Any takers Cheers Bob From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, 10 June 2011, 20:09 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot Ed Avis wrote: Richard Fairhurst writes: But if we were to put as much effort into marketing OSM and improving our tools as we do into writing and indeed discussing bots, the 40% areas would be fixed. If that were true, then it would be no contest. Given the choice between spending some effort doing an import and the same effort to recruit a huge army of mappers who can cover the whole country, any sane person would go for the mappers. Lemme give you an example. There are some really eloquent people on these lists. Granted, some of them are eloquently arguing nonsense, but nonetheless, some really eloquent people who can explain things lucidly, entertainingly, and convincingly. So why does our documentation suck so hard? Writing good docs is not easy, but given the right people, it is certainly no more difficult than writing a competent bot. Certainly I know which I'd find easier (which makes it a bit ironic that I do programming for OSM rather than writing, but hey). There is approximately one person in the entire world who has made an effort on documentation - stand up and take a bow, Richard Weait - but he can't do it all by himself. And here we are all merrily talking about bots, while every day dozens of people are signing up for OSM, staring at the screen, and thinking um, what the fuck do I do *now*?. So how do we start to convert some of those sign-up-but-never-edit people into real mappers? Get a group together. Have a mailing list (private if needs be) to discuss what you're doing. Find an install of Dokuwiki or Wordpress or whatever turns you on. Write some really good, beginner-friendly docs. Start small: an English-language guide to contributing basic mapping to OSM. (Bells and whistles and internationalisation can come later.) This little step would do a whole lot more for OSM globally than some street names in Dumfries Galloway ever will. And you can start it today. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-Analysis-New-Data-and-bot-tp6455312p6463486.html Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot
I agree with Andy about increasing the number of mappers is essential. With Cycle map he has increased the interest in the cycling communities. Getting interest and publicity is very difficult. I can see many other communities that we could encourage to start helping us, from NHS to golfers but we have no organised way of doing this at the moment. Using a bot to replace large sections of data in the UK is going to be counterproductive or destructive, especially as the UK is now 80% (road name)complete. However restricting a bot by area to the size of small villages may help. I believe we can both encourage people to join us and use the a bot on small areas at the same time. Cheers bob From: Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com To: sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011, 16:45 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: In order to get a better level of completeness in the UK what we need are more mappers. Absolutely. Everything we do should be focussed on helping get more mappers, or helping the mappers we have get their jobs done more easily. Everything that is a direct substitute for having more mappers is, at best, a distraction from (what I see as) the desired goal. If we have mappers, and lots of them, then - as we've now demonstrated - we can get a glorious dataset. Note that not everyone here shares the same goals - some people are focussed on the data, others on the community. It might be worth examining why we (collectively) have a tendency to discuss the data all the time and I see very few discussions on community matters. I find in most conversations, if the answer is because we don't have enough mappers yet then the solution is not to bypass them with some form of automation but to get more of them. Unfortunately to most OSMers, community building seems hard (which it is), and writing bots or doing imports seems easy (which it's not). A bot is putting short-term gain ahead of our long-term interests. Indeed. What's more, all the effort that goes into writing bots, discussing them, justifying them etc is time that hasn't gone into the primary goal of recruiting and helping more people to OSM. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation
Do you think that a heatmap of the different formats released by the councils, with an indication from us of preferred formats be worth considering. I know that Edinburgh council uses pdf but I don't have an idea of the status of other councils cheers Bob From: TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Cc: Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2011, 11:56 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation On 04/06/11 11:04, Bob Kerr wrote: Hi, Is there any way that we can request the data in a standard easy to use format, one that we can requested from different councils throughout the uk. That would be ideal because data standards enable sharing and use. On the other hand, any barrier to councils releasing the data might be used as an excuse not to share it at all. The problem is different councils have different levels of commitment to open data. The most popular formats from Kent seems to be Excel and RSS feeds. At least it is not PDF! If we can do this, and use a standard tool for comparison I think it would be beneficial for us and the local councils. If there isn't should we make one? My locateservices CMS goes some way towards this. An alternative, for data with high spacial accuracy (within GPS receiver accuracy), is to import it directly into OSM and maintain the data there. Also, I think the councils might be confused by any license beyond the most simple (that is just a guess though), so sharing the data back with the source might be problematic with OSM (with either the old or new license). TimSC___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation
Hi, In Edinburgh the list of public roads is available here http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/177/register_of_public_roads/865/public_roads_in_edinburgh The reason that I refer to this is that the Data from OS is not as accurate or up to date as this data. There is also some roads that are not named. I know from experience that the OS data is not fully correct and neither is OSM data. However as we are correcting the roads in edinburgh, this gets filtered back to OS which in turn goes to ITO and eventually we will all have the same correct data, It will take some time. We also have very few surveyors. My point though is that we do have some data available from the council, and if we can create a heat map that shows which councils are releasing data then it may encourage others to do the same. My question is would it be worthwhile doing. Cheers bob From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011, 14:37 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation TimSC wrote: I think you miss my point. The datasets contain more than just their postal address. If the licenses are compatible, we can mash up the data. You don't need to put stuff into OSM to make it mashable-uppable. Most competent licences will have a Collective Work/Database provision to enable this. And you should do that anyway. This implies I don't already, which is a false. (Otherwise, why are you telling me I should?) Oh, cool. Sorry, I thought you were still using Yahoo imagery to trace places you'd never been. Glad you've stopped. :) [...] Any what if the government dataset is open and stomps on OSM's attempt? OS OpenData is easily the best free geodata available in the UK and I've just used it (in preference to OSM) to make a lovely paper map, but it hasn't killed OSM yet. :) (Don't bother saying improve OSM because that IS the approach we use and still the government set is better, in some cases.) Duplicating other open data sets seems a waste of time - as you seem to imply by resurveying stuff already available elsewhere. In a few cases, manually importing data can indeed be a useful tool. The high-resolution rivers and streams in VectorMap District are quite useful _if_ you know the stream is indeed there, which obviously VMD doesn't tell you. It's not really any better than using a combination of aerial imagery and your own knowledge, but it can be useful, yes. But this is pretty much only true where the data is impractical to survey yourself. The canonical example is: if you import a town's roads, you get a town's roads. If you survey a town's roads, you get a town's roads, footpaths, cycle routes, pubs, etc. etc. I'm sure there's been an example where an import has been significant in the success of OSM in the UK but I'm struggling to think of one. Maybe someone else can help? I am not advocating we only import data either. A hybrid approach - import AND crowd source - is better. If you want crowd sourced surveying only, I suggest you start another project. Fortunately, I _like_ the licence that 23135 people have said they'll move their data to, and only 387 have said they won't (that's 98.4% vs 1.6%). So I'm not planning to be one of the people moving to another project. :) cheers Richard ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation
Hi, Is there any way that we can request the data in a standard easy to use format, one that we can requested from different councils throughout the uk. If we can do this, and use a standard tool for comparison I think it would be beneficial for us and the local councils. If there isn't should we make one? Cheers Bob From: TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, 3 June 2011, 11:45 Subject: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation Hi all, Some stats on OSM coverage of Kent. I tried to pair the records of KCC OpenKent with the OSM database. Assuming the KCC list is complete (which it is usually, but not entirely), we can estimate OSM's coverage in the area. Schools: 618 of 915 (915 (67.54 %) Pharmacies: 67 of 274 (274 (24.45 %) Doctors: 33 of 286 (286 (11.54 %) Libraries: 70 of 101 (101 (69.31 %) Opticians: 12 of 170 (170 (7.06 %) Hospitals: 24 of 33 (33 (72.73 %) So, OSM is good on some features and poor on others. It seems for profit locations are not so well mapped, compared to public services. My philosophy is that OSM omissions should be regarded as errors. With complete lists of addresses, we can go and find exact positions of these services. I am still unsure if this is compatible with the relicensing. This data is distributed under OGL (and sometimes OS OpenData too). Can LWG attempt to reduce the legal uncertainty of this, by a definitive statement? Regards, TimSC ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] User Stats over 400 000
See http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Things that aren't stations tagged railway=station
I agree Cheers Bob --- On Tue, 19/4/11, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: From: Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com Subject: [Talk-GB] Things that aren't stations tagged railway=station To: Talk-GB talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, 19 April, 2011, 8:21 Hi All, In making my recent transport map[1] I've found there's a (relatively) large number of nodes in the UK tagged railway=station, when they aren't stations (and often aren't any railways there, either). I'm proposing that we don't tag former, disused or fictional stations in a way that confuses mainstream users of OSM, in the same way we don't tag proposed motorways as highway=motorway. I realise that there are additional tags to try to indicate that they don't exist (such as disused=yes) but I don't think this is a particularly useful approach, given the near infinite numbers of extra tags that could be thought up for fictional, planned, was-planned-not-built-not-planned-any-more etc stations. Even the wiki page for disused=yes suggests it's a bad idea[2], and that some other backwards-compatible approach would be better. We have a backwards-compatible approach for the disused and abandoned railway lines already. Would there be objections to changing the situation with UK railway stations to bring it into line with highways/railway lines, e.g. railway=disused, disused=station , or e.g. railway=abandoned, abandoned=station? It's such a niche interest (well, seemingly much less niche in the UK than elsewhere :-) ) that I don't think it helps to tag things in their current scheme. I don't think this is particularly controversial (my suggestions mirror the approach for both highways and railway lines already), I've discussed it already with a handful of people who have used the old approach, but I thought it best to air it here too. Cheers, Andy [1] http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2011/04/11/transport-map/ [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:disused ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] SABRE Maps
I just heard about this, I don't know anything about the group but I thought I'd pass it on since it's using openstreetmap http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/ Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Open Data Challenge
A bit of cash maybe? http://opendatachallenge.org/ Cheers Bob___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Tracing/Mapping Party Peebles for Sunday 10th April
Hi We will be having a mapping party in Peebles on Sunday 10th April. We will be meeting with the local Orienteering group and we have been given permision to use the Canmore_ID extracted from http://canmoremapping.rcahms.gov.uk/ To find monuments to map. We are not allowed to copy the OS map that is shown. If we are succesful then we hope to persuade them to use Openstreetmap as one of the base layers in their map It is worth while also looking at http://free.findmaps.co.uk/ (I have already requested that they change the name Urban Detail to Openstreetmap There is also much cycling, walking, canoeing, and Orienteering to do. So lots of tracing then getting out and about. We may even be featured in the local newspaper please see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh/MappingParty/2011-04-10 Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Orienteering event map
I just saw this and I thought it was a good example of how to deal with future events http://sloweb.org.uk/ollie/map/index.php Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta
Excellent, I have already discovered some discrepancies in Edinburgh using the layers layer. I am also not noticing any lag in displaying the data at this time. I can also see the benefit of highlighting the schools and hope that in the future that maybe hospitals,doctors will be included Well done Cheers Bob --- On Fri, 18/3/11, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: From: Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com Subject: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Friday, 18 March, 2011, 14:12 ITO are pleased to announce a set of new 'overlay maps' for OpenStreetMap which can highlights some of the data layers, such as speed limits, highway lane widths, whether rivers are navigable and if buildings have addresses etc. The service is still very much in beta and may suffer if many people jump on it at the same time but lets see what happens. The service is available here: http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main And a wiki description is available here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ITO_Map We are starting with a service for a bounding box that included the UK and northern France, Holland, a bit of Germany and up to southern Norway and a separate bounding box including the bay area, SF. The tiles will always be based current daily diff planet data (with a 24 hour processing lag). We should never serve old tiles from old data. If the service is noticeably slow then please give it a break for a hour and then try again. We will roll out the service to more areas as the system beds in and then globally over the next few weeks assuming that the servers hold up. We will gather feedback over the next week or so and then many some changes to the service to iron out any wrinkles. Regards, Peter Miller ITO World Ltd -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Edinburgh Pub meet up
There will be an Edinburgh pub meeting at 7:00pm on Tuesday 15th march in the Guildford Arms Please see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#News For Details Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSM and The Big Society
The document just shows how out of touch and behind the times the politicians are. We're doing what they should have been doing decades ago. I think the present government is just trying to pride itself with what it thinks is a new idea and manipulating it for their own ends. see http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/17/ordnance-survey-maps-online http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/jan/21/timbernerslee-government-data The fact that openstreetmap had started several years before these articles Tim berners-lee was the person of insight to the politicians to help start the Data.gov.uk free data movement which I think he has been doing since even before the Free Software movement was born many decades ago. I am really glad that openstreetmap is not political this document is a little creepy Cheers Bob --- On Sat, 5/3/11, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: From: Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM and The Big Society To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 0:21 On 02/03/2011 21:43, Robert Scott wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2011, davespod wrote: The Cabinet Office's Office for Civil Society has just published a report citing international examples of The Big Society. Case study number 1 is OpenStreetMap: http://www.arnaudriegert.com/wp-content/uploads/international-examples-big-society.pdf I feel dirty. I know what you mean. I don't want to get party political, but Cameron his cabinet's examples of Big Society have been substitution volunteering, where some who got paid previously, is now expected to do it for free; i.e. Librarians. I don't want to be associated with that. Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?
Hi, I would back the use of such a bot but in area's that could do with the help and there are only a few of these now. There are a couple of small towns in Aberdeenshire that could do with a little boost. Just be careful. The rest will follow with a little patience I think it is a skill that may be useful to learn and a preparation for other data sets such as hopitals, churches, schools. This could be used as an overlay and not necessarily an import and very useful for other less developed countries There are a large number of motivations. If we have more publicity we can have more people I would also like to point out the news of aerial image tracing http://opengeodata.org/ leading to http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2011/02/03/automatically-detect-roads-with-bing-aerial-imagery.aspx Which leads to the video. As far as I can make out, all data sources are incorrect in different ways. Some GPS surveys can be a mess,street name markers misspelled or wrong. Satellite imaging can be incorrectly georeferenced or out of date as are any data sources you can think of. I remember hearing that the district councils are getting together to release their official street name data. When this happens then OSM and OS data will converge so that we are all using the same names and then the street signs can be changed to the correct name. Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] pay_scale_area
Hi, I am presently doing some tracing in Dumfries and there is a way which is marked public_transport=pay_scale_area. It is part of a Naptan import. The area seems to be vague and is cutting across a number of areas where I am doing some detailed work. Is there a good reason that this should still be kept? Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis name tags
Hi, I would like to support the idea of name:gd=* for Gaelic names. In Portree there are definitely two names in OS Locator for several roads an example is highway: residentialname: Mill Parkname:gd: Pairc na Muilnesource: OS_OpenData_StreetView at http://oscompare.raggedred.net/?zoom=18lat=57.4161lon=-6.19layers=B0TF If there has not been an official vote on this type of tag then maybe a decision should be made because it will affect a lot of people making international language maps. for example http://osmalba.org/ I would be willing to help with some wiki work if needed to set up voting though I think a straight decision would be a lot easier. Nice work on the new OSM Analysis by the way. Any chance of totals in the table analysis page. It would give us a type of countdown clock for the uk Cheers Bob --- On Thu, 20/1/11, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: From: Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis name tags To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Thursday, 20 January, 2011, 17:44 On 20/01/2011 17:28, Peter Miller wrote: On 20 January 2011 17:20, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net mailto:t...@acrewoods.net wrote: How about dialects? name:en name:cy name:gd name:gv name:sco name:ga Whatever other regional languages we have. we believe that the OS Locator content is always in English. In the Western Isles the name field for roads in OSM often holds the Gaelic version with the English in en:name hence our support for that tag. Do tell me if I am wrong on that. The OS Locator data does have Gaelic names in some places. See for example Portree: http://oscompare.raggedred.net/?zoom=15lat=57.41533lon=-6.20179layers=B0TF Also some parts of Stornoway: http://oscompare.raggedred.net/?zoom=15lat=58.21523lon=-6.37094layers=B0TF Though it is inconsistent, with English names for some roads, Gaelic names for others. I have also noticed a few places where it seems to have both languages, so it has a separate box for each. For Stornoway, the Gaelic names are in the name= tag, with name:en for English. But for Portree it is mostly the English name in the name= tag, with name:gd for the Gaelic names. Its debatable which one should be considered the 'primary' name there. Craig ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids
Hi, A derived post-code based on Latitude and Longitude would work much better internationally and would give us something to hang other statistics on. the OSM short code could fit the bill. Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible)
Hi, On some rivers upstream there are points tagged for canoeing. see http://whitewater.quaker.eu.org/ I'm not sure if this will effect your work but I thought I should let you know. The tags in this case are placed on the nodes inside the waterway=riverbank way Cheers Bob --- On Thu, 20/1/11, James Davis jam...@jml.net wrote: From: James Davis jam...@jml.net Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Waterways Map (was invisible) To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Thursday, 20 January, 2011, 10:07 On 19 Jan 2011, at 21:28, Graham Jones wrote: Dealing with 'disused' was nice and easy - I have deleted disused locks altogether and changed disused canals to a fainter, dotted line (see just north of Carnforth near Lancaster). I am not sure I have ever seen a 'disused' canal - does this mean a ditch, or just an overgrown, impassable canal? Varies a lot, there's one that passes near my house and there's no sign that it ever existed, it's route has been tarmaced over forms part of a residential street. Further out of town it varies from a small gap between hedgerows (again not easily recognisable as a canal) to a ditch, to sections that still contain water and remnants of locks. From aerial photographs; the breaks in developments caused by the canal make the route very obvious. James ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] WebGL
Hi, Does anyone know if there has been any consideration on using OSM vector data with WebGL. Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Edinburgh pub meeting
We will be having a pub meeting in Edinburgh next Tuesday please see the Edinburgh page for details http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#News Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] ITO analysis Totals
Hi I just did a quick totals on the ITO analysis page Total roads in OS locator 849338 Total roads missing from OSM 295123 Missing change last 30 days -13909 average percentage complete 64.52 cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] OS Competition with Opendata
Hi I noticed that there is a section in the OS competition for OS_OpenData http://www.geovation.org.uk/geovationchallenge/ If we could encourage councils to release their data in a nice easy format then that would help us and OS to validate their data sets. The money could go to the OSM foundation. The date for the close of entry is quite soon though Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Pub meeting 29th September Edinburgh
Hello, We will be having a pub meeting at 7:pm Wed 29th September 2010 at the Guildford Arms We will be having a guest Ivan Sanchez Ortega who will be able to give us many different insights into the spanish mapping community. We also may be planning our first mapping party to map one of the permanent Orienteering maps in Edinburgh and contacting the local Orienteering groups More details here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Social_Events All welcome Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2%
Hi, I had originally placed a tag of not = Pentlands Gardens I have now changed it to not:name = Pentlands Gardens I have done this for consistency and to make sure the analysis works. I am not doing it to purely get the figures down. If I wanted to just get the figures down then I would just use the OS_OpenData name, but that would defeat the whole point of finding the anomalies. Which is what OSM, OS and the council all want. We all want to have the same accurate databases. --- On Tue, 17/8/10, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: From: Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2% To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, 17 August, 2010, 17:27 On 17/08/2010 16:18, Bob Kerr wrote: Hi, Thanks for the replies, I have placed a tag not = Pentlands Gardens instead of not:name= Pentlands Gardens Bob Are you saying you've amended or added a tag just to reduce the percentage value within ITO? Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] apostrophe's WAS The last 2%
Hi, As stated by Ed I added not:name tags where I resurveyed to confirm whether the OS or OSM was correct and it was OSM. If it were OS then I corrected OSM based on my survey. So yes, not:name tags are added to reduce the percentage value, but also to save other mappers resurveying the same possible anomalies. This is what I have been doing. I need the anomalies to show up on the ITO tiles but I would like them highlighted in some way - like a dashed line to show that they are anomalies so I don't come back in two weeks time to recheck it because I have forgotten or to warn other folk not to just over write with the OS name. After going over some of the roads in Edinburgh I have found different people using tag combinations like not = %%%name:not = %% as well as not:name= I have changed the ones that I have found to not:name Eventually, what should be left on the tiles in Edinburgh is nothing but the anomalies. I would like the analysis to take out the roads that not:name. The reason is that if proves to me that I know that the road has been surveyed. What's left is a number say 10. These 10 probably do not have a name or they would show up on the ITO tiles. Therefore they are unclassified roads or maybe service roads, They could be roads further in the country or maybe extensions to a cul-de-sac. These are very difficult to find, I could spend hours and hours looking over the map trying to track these down. However if I know they exist then I can look into other methods to find them Cheers Bob --- On Tue, 17/8/10, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: From: Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] apostrophe's WAS The last 2% To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, 17 August, 2010, 16:42 David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Shane Reynolds shane...@gmail.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2% Hi, I am the developer who works on a number of products including OSM Analysis for ITO. I am slightly confused about making the OS Locator box a dashed box if the not:name tag is present. When we do the processing if any street is found with the not:name tag matching an OS Locator street then these should not be flagged in the stats nor should they be drawn on the map. Are you saying that this is not the case and they are still appearing? If this is true then possibly there is a bug that I may want to address (we are usually a day behind the updated planet file so possibly its something to do with that?) With regard to getting the figures down (in slight fear of being flamed as I am a very novice mapper) - with apostrophes, if the road sign has an apostrophe then I would say the apostrophe should be in OSM and if it is not then it is correct to flag it as a difference. However if the road sign does not have an apostrophe and OS Locator does then probably the road should have a not:name tag added with the apostrophe version of the name. This would remove any apostrophe issues. Shane, great work on your OSM analysis tools. My recollection of the discussion on this list in early June was that apostrophe differences would not be tagged with not:name as this might have a tendency to flood the not:name reports with minor issues. It was also suggested (by me I'll admit) that on the ITO tiles that differences due solely to apostrophes could be marked just in one pale colour, so they could quickly and easily be distinguished from other errors. David OS have expressed an interest in these anomalies, including apostrophes that are different which ever way round. It is as much a difference as any other character missing. I suspect they know the few parts of the country where they are ignored. I have, therefore, been tagging apostrophe anomalies with not:name =* like any other. As to the suggested colour changes I like the ITO tiles just as they are. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2%
Hi, Thanks for the replies, I think I may have found out something If I look at Pentland Gardens http://oscompare.raggedred.net/?zoom=18lat=55.91088lon=-3.21477layers=B0TF I have placed a tag not = Pentlands Gardens instead of not:name= Pentlands Gardens so this would make the analysis out considerably in my area. Now that I have this information then this should make a difference. I was obviously just following the wrong tagging scheme. I think there may be others that are doing the same as me so it may be good to let people know. With the ITO world OS Locator from the above link. If the squares showing the names are all solid lines. I suggest that if they don't match and contain the not:name tag then placing a dashed line around them would indicate that I have a conflict that has been looked at. Eventually what I will be left with are the roads where there is dispute over the name and not mixed together with roads that have not been surveyed and named. thanks for you help Cheers Bob --- On Tue, 17/8/10, Shane Reynolds shane...@gmail.com wrote: From: Shane Reynolds shane...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2% To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, 17 August, 2010, 13:09 Hi, I am the developer who works on a number of products including OSM Analysis for ITO. I am slightly confused about making the OS Locator box a dashed box if the not:name tag is present. When we do the processing if any street is found with the not:name tag matching an OS Locator street then these should not be flagged in the stats nor should they be drawn on the map. Are you saying that this is not the case and they are still appearing? If this is true then possibly there is a bug that I may want to address (we are usually a day behind the updated planet file so possibly its something to do with that?) With regard to getting the figures down (in slight fear of being flamed as I am a very novice mapper) - with apostrophes, if the road sign has an apostrophe then I would say the apostrophe should be in OSM and if it is not then it is correct to flag it as a difference. However if the road sign does not have an apostrophe and OS Locator does then probably the road should have a not:name tag added with the apostrophe version of the name. This would remove any apostrophe issues. With regard to rural roads - if they have no road signs is it not better to use the OS Locator name rather than have no name at all as I think in general OS Locator has been proved to be pretty accurate? (apologies if in my ignorance I do not know that there is a good reason not to do this). Shane On 17 August 2010 12:34, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: Congratulations, only 87 roads (2%) is an impressive achievement. I'm struggling to reduce figures much on the Isle of Wight due to many road signs not have apostrophes (whilst OS Locator includes apostrophes), and many rural roads having no road signs at all David - Original Message - From: Bob Kerr To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:53 AM Subject: [Talk-GB] The last 2% Hi, I have been using the OS_locator and musical chairs tools to focus on the areas of Edinburgh that needed checking. I have also been using the ITO analysis tool to check my progress. http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/ All of these have been very useful and much appreciated I use the boundaries shown in http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/opendata/viewer/ to focus my attention in one area In Edinburgh we have about 87 roads to go. I know that there are many of these roads that conflict with the OS_Opendata names. This is due mainly to spelling, roads with two names, new builds that need survey etc. I believe that there are more roads marked as not in OSM than are marked in OS_Locator about 20 in the case of Edinburgh. I thought this may have been service roads or unnamed roads further outside the city, I found many of these but these do not seem to affect the scores of the OSM_analysis. I am not sure if this is me just missing roads or OS database data quirks Are there any hints or insights that people can give me to help me find the last few roads. Once I have brought the number down I can then check with the council and have Street sign, Official Council name, and OS_OpendData name and then be able to report to OS. On a slightly different note is there any plans to have the OS_locator squares marked as a dashed line if there is a tag present that says not:name. This would be useful for me to show that a street has
[Talk-GB] Mapping party Edinburgh
Just a Quick reminder, There will be a mapping party tomorrow 9:30 Sat 3rd July at Edinburgh Zoo all welcome Details here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh/MappingParty/2010-07 Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Mapping Party Edinburgh
Hi, We will be having a mapping party on Saturday 3rd July all welcome. We will be mapping the Zoo and Corstorphine Hill Details here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh/MappingParty/2010-07 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes
Hi, I can easily understand that apostrophes and the name bypass are annoying, however I think there is an opportunity here. For example, bypass or by-pass. This highlights an inconstancy in the OS data, which will be useful for them to correct and standardise. Apostrophes are the same, they can convey different meanings for example we have some House O' Hill data in Edinburgh after the OS and OSM data have been checked against each other then what is left is the most useful to both our groups and will disappear in time. In Edinburgh we will have to do the same again because all the names of the streets and house numbers are controlled by the local council. I know that the OS data is not as accurate as the council data. So again we will be able to highlight the exact inconsistancies and once we have the exact data as the council then this highlights that OSM is a useful tool for the council to use. Cheers Bob --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes To: Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, 13 June, 2010, 9:17 Differences on the naming of sections of trunk road (Southern Bypass vs Southern Bypass Road) are also a little distracting. Richard On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Could the OS versus OSM name comparison be changed to strip apostrophes from both names before comparing? See http://oscompare.raggedred.net/?zoom=16lat=51.54886lon=-0.20997layers=B0TF for example - neither OS nor OSM have any real consistency in whether to use apostrophe or not. I've no wish to re-open the great apostrophe debate on this mailing list, rather I think it would be sensible to leave them to one side when doing the name check. -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API
Superb and thanks, Open Knowledge Scotland is the perfect venue to go forward with this Cheers Bob --- On Sun, 9/5/10, Jo Walsh j...@frot.org wrote: From: Jo Walsh j...@frot.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API To: Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, 9 May, 2010, 15:34 dear Bob, all, On 08/05/2010 18:17, Bob Kerr wrote: Hi, I have been in touch with them and they are keen that we should be allowed to use their data so that we can create derived information that we can use for Openstreetmap. They have told me that they are willing to use the Open Database Licence with OSM they may just need some clarification of some minor details Is there anyone on the list that has experience with licensing that could get in touch with them. I am happy to be an intermediary and I have met them more than once and they know me. I would just like a little backup because this could be very beneficial to us in openstreetmap and to the Library. It would be beneficial to the library because they get more interest and recognition for their work Okay, Chris Fleet (the Map Librarian at NLS) will be presenting this service at Open Knowledge Scotland, and relevantly, Charlotte Waelde and Andres Guadamuz, old colleagues of Jordan Hatcher (of Open Data Commons/ODBL) at SCRIPT, they'll be doing a clinic on open data licensing issues. So we can make sure everyone meets - Bob i see you're on the okscotland attendee list already which is great because we're well overcapacity - and even raise this as a test case at their clinic, if they have that kind of flexibility. Bob, i did forward Chris and Petr the original mail from Frederik lasy week, if there's any followup I'll definitely cc you (and look forward to meeting on Thursday!) I could also *try* asking JISC Legal, it would be useful to get stable advisory words wrt ODbL from them. cheers, jo -- ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API
Hi, I have been in touch with them and they are keen that we should be allowed to use their data so that we can create derived information that we can use for Openstreetmap. They have told me that they are willing to use the Open Database Licence with OSM they may just need some clarification of some minor details I think the only problem is that that they have a great deal of much older maps which they hope to eventually put online. These images are the ones that under law they need to protect. However derived data from them they would be ok with. Is there anyone on the list that has experience with licensing that could get in touch with them. I am happy to be an intermediary and I have met them more than once and they know me. I would just like a little backup because this could be very beneficial to us in openstreetmap and to the Library. It would be beneficial to the library because they get more interest and recognition for their work If there are any people that are good at licencing please either contact me or to them directly There contact information is on http://geo.nls.uk/maps/api/ If you do contact them could you please CC me just to keep me in the loop Cheers Bob --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API To: Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Date: Wednesday, 5 May, 2010, 20:08 Hi, Bob Kerr wrote: The data released has some overlap with the data that we already have but it does go into more detail than ours. The license is also compatible with ours. Perhaps they could be approached cautiously and asked whether they would consider allowing derived information to be published under ODbL as it is still not entirely impossible that we'll want to use that license some time in the future. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API
Hi, I am please to let you know that the good people of the National Library of Scotland have released an API and data for a selection of maps throughout the UK. The library is very keen to engage the OSM community and if all goes well with this introduction will be happy to release further maps in the future. The data released has some overlap with the data that we already have but it does go into more detail than ours. The license is also compatible with ours. I am posting this here so that the information can get into the right hands and be verified etc. You can either contact me about this or preferably through the contact e-mail on the API page. Please remember this is the first time that they have done this. The National Library of Scotland is an important institution and would be very benificial for us to have them as our friends, any problems will be slowly ironed out so be respectful. full details here http://geo.nls.uk/maps/api/ Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [Edinburgh] Road Names
Very Cool, I think it would be worth going over this at the next meeting, maybe we could put up a wiki page with the roads that are missing and plan the mapping party for areas that are particularly bad. Excellent work cheers Bob --- On Tue, 23/3/10, Chris Fleming m...@chrisfleming.org wrote: From: Chris Fleming m...@chrisfleming.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] [Edinburgh] Road Names To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, 23 March, 2010, 0:29 Cool I've hooked up a script to do a comparison with the street names in OSM and have put the results up at: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah4ejhysSkMOdDktM0Jyb3Z5TGFQTjZkOHJ4RHlnVGchl=en Overall on the first pass we match about 75% of the road names, although there are lots of 'Z' Class roads that we don't have. I have also done a area by area comparison and have included this on the second tab of the spreadsheet some area's look very good and some quite poor. I hope to spend some time looking at an area and figuring out where we don't match in order to get any bugs out, but if anyone wants to make any comments then the spreadsheet *should* be writable. Also let me know if there are any other fields that it would be useful to pull out of OSM. Cheers Chris On 18/03/10 23:14, Dair Grant wrote: Hi, At this week's Edinburgh meet-up we discussed the Council's public road name list, and how to cross-reference it with OSM to check coverage/identify missing roads. Unfortunately the council data is only available as a set of tabular PDFs, which is hard to do anything useful with, so I've converted them into a single csv file: http://bit.ly/99py7c I won't have time to do anything with it for a while, but have put it up in case anyone else from Edinburgh wants a go (the script is on github in case other councils have a similar problem). Sorry for spamming all of -gb, as this is pretty local to Edinburgh, but there's no talk-scot and everyone is on talk-gb. Having said that, we also discussed having a mapping party in/around Penicuik on April 10th, so for anyone in central Scotland/visiting the area then I think Bob will be sticking the details for that on the Edinburgh page on the wiki. -dair ___ d...@refnum.com http://www.refnum.com/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- e: m...@chrisfleming.org w: www.chrisfleming.org ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] 200,060
We are now over the 200,000 mark http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html happy new year Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS consultation out
On Page 56 of the document it says it proposes to release Streetview http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/streetview/ I think this would be of most interest to us This could give us shapes of houses, some geographical references , roads and road names Cheers Bob --- On Wed, 23/12/09, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: From: Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net Subject: [Talk-GB] OS consultation out To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail) talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Wednesday, 23 December, 2009, 13:58 http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/corporate/ordnancesurveyconsultation It would be good to submit a response from OSM contributors or the OSMF. Tom -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Gaurdian top 100 websites
Openstreetmap made the Guardians top 100 again this year. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/09/best-websites-internet Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Edinburgh Meetup 7:30pm Tuesday 8th December 2009
Hello, Just reminding the list there is an Edinburgh Meetup next Tuesday at 7:30 at the Guildford Arms Please See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Social_Events Everyone is welcome, come along and join us for a pint Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Accuracy of OSM data in Athens
Thought you may be interested in this article. http://povesham.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/openstreetmap-in-athens-–-as-accurate-as-london/ Cheers bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Glasgow Meetup Tuesday 17th November 2009 at 7:30pm
Hi All, Just a reminder we will be having a pub meetup next Tuesday in Glasgow Please see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Glasgow#Social_Events Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Google Wave
Hi, I have just been watching the presentation on Google Wave http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html I was wandering if in the future if this would be a useful tool for us, I was thinking along the lines of helping organising meetups and mapping parties for a local area. Any thoughts? cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Noname Layer
Hi, Is there any news about when the Noname layer is going to be updated. I believe there was a problem with the shear size of the data. Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Glasgow social meetup contact
Hi, We had a successful first social meeting in Edinburgh, I am now looking to organise the same thing in Glasgow. Is there anyone who is willing to be the contact point for Glasgow. This will mainly involve choosing a good pub and possibly some minor wiki edits on the Glasgow project page. Please contact me off list. cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Locating Postboxes article Guardian
Hi all, Just in case you missed it, there is an article in the Guardian about the location of Postboxes and post offices in the UK. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/sep/16/freedom-of-information-postboxes It then leads to the place where we can put this info onto openstreetmap http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/locating-postboxes/ Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Meetup in Edinburgh Tuesday 22 September 2009 7.30pm Guildford Arms
Hello All, There will be a meetup in Edinburgh at 7:30pm Tuesday September 22, 2009 at the Guildford arms please see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Social_Events everyone welcome Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Edinburgh Meetups: Glasgow Central Scotland
Hi, Kick starting a place for regular meetups in Edinburgh I have added some basic information about people getting together in Edinburgh http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Edinburgh#Mapping_Parties The main aim of this is to get more people to add the catagory Users in Edinburgh to their profile so that it is easier to let them know if there is a meetup in Edinburgh. After that I hope to organise a monthly or bimonthly meeting for Edinburgh, if successful then meetups in Glasgow and Central Scotland. I hope to use the calendar feature of the wiki as the local schedule Please send your thoughts to me or edit the wiki Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Export Cyclemap
Hi, Is there any legal or other reason that there is not an option to export Opencyclemap tiles. In the 'format to export' opencyclemap is not there. Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
I agree a decent link near the permalink area for printing would help a lot. Printing extra pages is annoying too and should be taken into consideration as well, a trap that i've seen happen a lot is that the output is formatted for the US letter format and not A4, so local country considerations need to be thought about. Cheers Bob --- On Mon, 13/7/09, WessexMario wessexmario-...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: WessexMario wessexmario-...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail) talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 1:57 PM Mario Caves wrote: I agree with Jack on this one, I'm a long in the tooth IT pro and as choosing the browser print option is often a waste of paper, it took me months before I found out how well OSM formatted the browser print option, so a 'print this map' link/icon/tag/button would go a long way to helping 'ordinary' map users get more out of OSM. Jack Stringer wrote: Not all websites are not as well designed as OSM. Often when you click print you get 2 blank pages plus 3 with the adverts on them and 1 page of the map, cut right in half on the area you wanted to see. Jack Stringer ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Compass Rose
Hello, I have a couple of Compass Roses that I have made. I am happy to make them available under a public domain licence. I would like to make the files available on the openstreetmap wiki but just wanted to check if this is appropriate before I make the page. The files are smaller than 100Kb and will be available in SVG and PNG and I use the icon 64 format in Inkscape to create them. Cheers Bob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
