Re: [OSM-talk] StreetComplete v0.14

[Hans De Kryger]

OH welp that fixes the problem, thanks!

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Alert Bouterse  wrote:

> Hi Gaurav,
>
> You join the words together like StreetComplete. Then you will find the
> app.
>
> Success,
>
> Alert Bouterse
>
> Op 13 jul. 2017 5:54 AM schreef "Gaurav Thapa" :
>
> Is there a link to the application as I can't find it on the play store
> when I search for 'Street Complete'
>
> On Jul 12, 2017 22:57, "Denis Carriere"  wrote:
>
>> Awesome! Can't wait to try out those new features!
>>
>> *~~*
>> *Denis Carriere*
>> *GIS Software & Systems Specialist*
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Tobias Zwick  wrote:
>>
>>> I am proud to announce that after a long public betatest, the first
>>> stable version of the app has been released on Google Play and F-Droid.
>>> StreetComplete is a FOSS Android app that aims to enable easy on-survey
>>> contribution to OSM for anyone.
>>>
>>> Specifically, it enables users to extend already mapped data through a
>>> simple question-answer format: The app ask questions about things on the
>>> map  such as "What is the name of this road?" or "How many levels does
>>> this building have?" and the user is given a simple form to fill in this
>>> information.
>>>
>>> The processed answers are then directly uploaded as changes to the
>>> OpenStreetMap, eliminating the need to (learn and) use another editor
>>> for simple contributions.
>>>
>>> In this first version, the following quests are implemented. Users can
>>> contribute:
>>> - road name
>>> - road surface
>>> - to note discussion (only notes that contain a question are shown)
>>> - opening hours
>>> - bike parking capacity
>>> - bus stop shelter
>>> - building and roof levels
>>> - roof shape
>>> - sport played on a pitch
>>>
>>> More are in the works for the next version.
>>>
>>> For more information, check out the project's GitHub page
>>> (https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete) or search for it in the
>>> app store.
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Re: [OSM-talk] StreetComplete v0.14

[Hans De Kryger]

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:52 PM, Gaurav Thapa  wrote:

> Is there a link to the application as I can't find it on the play store
> when I search for 'Street Complete'
>

​Yeah i had the same problem, i couldn't find the app in the general Play
store listings. Luckily i had a link saved.​

>
> On Jul 12, 2017 22:57, "Denis Carriere"  wrote:
>
>> Awesome! Can't wait to try out those new features!
>>
>> *~~*
>> *Denis Carriere*
>> *GIS Software & Systems Specialist*
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Tobias Zwick  wrote:
>>
>>> I am proud to announce that after a long public betatest, the first
>>> stable version of the app has been released on Google Play and F-Droid.
>>> StreetComplete is a FOSS Android app that aims to enable easy on-survey
>>> contribution to OSM for anyone.
>>>
>>> Specifically, it enables users to extend already mapped data through a
>>> simple question-answer format: The app ask questions about things on the
>>> map  such as "What is the name of this road?" or "How many levels does
>>> this building have?" and the user is given a simple form to fill in this
>>> information.
>>>
>>> The processed answers are then directly uploaded as changes to the
>>> OpenStreetMap, eliminating the need to (learn and) use another editor
>>> for simple contributions.
>>>
>>> In this first version, the following quests are implemented. Users can
>>> contribute:
>>> - road name
>>> - road surface
>>> - to note discussion (only notes that contain a question are shown)
>>> - opening hours
>>> - bike parking capacity
>>> - bus stop shelter
>>> - building and roof levels
>>> - roof shape
>>> - sport played on a pitch
>>>
>>> More are in the works for the next version.
>>>
>>> For more information, check out the project's GitHub page
>>> (https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete) or search for it in the
>>> app store.
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Note 1000000

[Hans De Kryger]

Over the last 2 days i've closed 500+ notes with the words (My
house,house,*someones name* house, I live here, my friend lives here)

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Nicolás Alvarez 
wrote:

> 2017-05-28 6:08 GMT-03:00 Florian Lohoff :
> > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 07:12:07PM -0300, Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
> >> Really? Calling it "notes" is one of the worst parts of this system.
> >> People in my area keep using them for personal notes / bookmarks
> >> (sometimes with content as meaningless as "it's here"), not
> >> understanding that their purpose is reporting errors or missing things
> >> on the map.
> >
> > Is that the intended purpose? Says who? I do use it for personal notes
> > aswell although i try to give enough context that others can make use of
> > it.
>
> When I say "personal notes" I mean regular users (non-editors) adding
> notes saying "here is the party" or "mom's house".
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Limiting changesets to 10k changes.

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*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Maarten Deen  wrote:

> On 2017-01-31 19:04, Guillaume Rischard wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> There's a pull request to limit changesets to 10k changes, and it
>> would be good to get community input.
>>
>> I've opened a discussion here:
>> https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/144
>>
>> See the interesting comments on the PR itself too:
>> https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/1259
>>
>
> I think in principle a good idea, but I do have a few questions:
>
> - What happens after this change goes live and you do upload more than 10k
> changes? Does it get rejected in full?
> - Suppose you've gone in way over your head in JOSM and your changeset is
> >10k after hours and hours of work (yes I know, this never happens, but
> just out of interest) do you lose all the work because you can not upload
> it?
> - Does the chunk size in JOSM affect this at all?
>

​Wouldn't just upload it in chunks like JOSM does?​

>
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM then and now revived

[Hans De Kryger]

Wo!

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*Hans*

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I resuscitated the OSM then and now service, where you can compare OSM as
> it was in October 2007 with now.
> The service is a bit slow because 2007 tiles above z10 are not
> pre-rendered. This will improve as tiles get cached.
> Here is the location of SOTM 2016 as an example: http://mvexel.github.
> io/thenandnow/#15/50.8178/4.3971
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] StreetComplete Betatest (osmagent)

[Hans De Kryger]

Have you submitted the app to the play store?

On Nov 30, 2016 4:41 PM, "Tobias Zwick"  wrote:

Hey people

I created a first early version of StreetComplete (renamed from
osmagent), the Android App for surveyors I recently mailed about. If
anyone is interested to test it in the field, I would be happy for any
more feedback.
Don't expect too much, I first needed to get the basics working.

I created a forum thread for this again to not generate too much noise
here on this mailing list, as I am hoping to get much feedback (and bug
reports) :-)
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=620441

The APK is here:
http://www.westnordost.de/streetcomplete/streetcomplete-0.1-unsigned.apk

Github is here (for bug reports etc):
https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete

Cheers
Tobias

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

[Hans De Kryger]

Guessing that company's name rimes with frugal

Regards,
Hans

On Nov 8, 2016 8:35 AM, "Martijn van Exel"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open street
> level imagery project made 100% for OSM with apps for Android and iOS.
> Since then, we not only have collected almost 30 kilometers of
> coverage, but also received a lot of attention from both you and the press.
> This has also led to a friendly (for now) request by a well-known company
> with a similarly-named product :) to not use the OpenStreetView name. So we
> are looking for a new name. We have some ideas already but I wanted to ask
> if you had any suggestions for a new name for OSV?
>
> Thanks for your support and happy capturing / mapping,
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] "We're On The Map" vinyl window clings?

[Hans De Kryger]

Im a big local mapper, I'll convince some local businesses

Regards,
Hans

On Nov 4, 2016 10:17 PM, "Hans De Kryger"  wrote:

> Send them to me. I'll find a use
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
> On Nov 4, 2016 10:12 PM, "Russ Nelson"  wrote:
>
>> No one has expressed interest in five days, so I'm landfilling them.
>> -russ
>>
>> Russ Nelson writes:
>>  > Cleaning out my office. Found an envelope with about 80 vinyl window
>>  > clings. You peel off the backing and apply it to the inside of a glass
>>  > window. The idea was to add an establishment to OSM, then give them
>>  > one of these to put on the inside of one of their windows so passersby
>>  > could see it. It says:
>>  >
>>  > We're   www.OpenStreetMap.org
>>  > On  wrapped in a semicircle around
>>  > The Map!the OSM logo
>>  > ---
>>  > www.openstreetmap.org
>>  >   An Open Source Map of the World
>>  >
>>  > (smaller print) Get your own cling for free at www.cloudmade.com/cling
>>  >
>>  > If anybody has a use for them, I'll send them to you at my
>>  > expense. Preference given to the cheapest shipping address. :-)
>>  >
>>  > Before you bother to check, no, the cloudmade.com/cling address
>>  > 404's. Nick Black is still there. We could probably talk him into
>>  > making the URL work again and say "Sorry, offer expired in 2010" or
>>  > something like that.
>>  >
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Re: [OSM-talk] "We're On The Map" vinyl window clings?

[Hans De Kryger]

Send them to me. I'll find a use

Regards,
Hans

On Nov 4, 2016 10:12 PM, "Russ Nelson"  wrote:

> No one has expressed interest in five days, so I'm landfilling them.
> -russ
>
> Russ Nelson writes:
>  > Cleaning out my office. Found an envelope with about 80 vinyl window
>  > clings. You peel off the backing and apply it to the inside of a glass
>  > window. The idea was to add an establishment to OSM, then give them
>  > one of these to put on the inside of one of their windows so passersby
>  > could see it. It says:
>  >
>  > We're   www.OpenStreetMap.org
>  > On  wrapped in a semicircle around
>  > The Map!the OSM logo
>  > ---
>  > www.openstreetmap.org
>  >   An Open Source Map of the World
>  >
>  > (smaller print) Get your own cling for free at www.cloudmade.com/cling
>  >
>  > If anybody has a use for them, I'll send them to you at my
>  > expense. Preference given to the cheapest shipping address. :-)
>  >
>  > Before you bother to check, no, the cloudmade.com/cling address
>  > 404's. Nick Black is still there. We could probably talk him into
>  > making the URL work again and say "Sorry, offer expired in 2010" or
>  > something like that.
>  >
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Re: [OSM-talk] The New Cloud Atlas - Mapping Physical Infrastructure of the Internet with OSM

[Hans De Kryger]

This is awesome. I definitely will be contributing. Thank you!

Regards,
Hans

On Aug 17, 2016 8:35 AM, "Tim Waters"  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> with Ben Dalton, I'm happy to properly launch The New Cloud Atlas
> project at http://newcloudatlas.org
>
> I've written a blog post to explain it in more detail:
> https://thinkwhere.wordpress.com/2016/08/17/the-new-cloud-
> atlas-mapping-the-physical-infrastructure-of-the-internet/
>
> It's a project to collect and make a map to better understand what
> "The Internet" means, physically and geographically. The site has a
> tweaked iD editor with custom telecoms presets, it creates a couple of
> map tilesets showing these features from OSM, with clickable features
> on the map.
>
> We encourage you to map your local data centres, street cabinets,
> telephone exchanges, telephone poles, manhole covers and more!
>
> Telecoms features in OSM are not consistently mapped with regards to
> each other which could provide an opportunity for some consolidation
> or making new taxonomies. I've created WikiProject Telecoms to help
> with this tagging discussion:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Telecoms
>
> Cheers and I look forward to your comments!
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Spoken street names

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*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Rodrigo Rodríguez  wrote:

> Speakig of that, I have MAPS.ME installed on my Android and it's supposed
> the app has a voice navigation system but it doesn't work. Any thoughts on
> that?
>
> Regards,
>

​It just tells you where to turn, sadly it doesn't tell you the name of the
street. Hopefully they add that soon.​


>
> On 16/08/16 23:03, Hans De Kryger wrote:
>
> OsmAnd
> http://osmand.net/
>
>
> Scout
> http://www.telenav.com/products/scout/
>
> *Regards,*
> *Hans*
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:09 PM, Nick Hocking 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there any navigation software (for a Mobile phone) that uses offline
>> OSM data and also has spoken street names?
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Re: [OSM-talk] Spoken street names

[Hans De Kryger]

OsmAnd
http://osmand.net/


Scout
http://www.telenav.com/products/scout/

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:09 PM, Nick Hocking 
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> Is there any navigation software (for a Mobile phone) that uses offline
> OSM data and also has spoken street names?
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[OSM-talk] Created OpenHistoricalMap Slack Channel

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Come join!

https://openhistoricalmap.slack.com

Hope to make it a vibrant community.


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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM usage violation

[Hans De Kryger]

Thanks Frederick!

On Jul 11, 2016 2:19 PM, "Frederik Ramm"  wrote:

> Hans,
>
> On 07/11/2016 11:03 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote:
> >  Not satisfied with that answer. The dude didn't get it.
>
> Well you could have made it clearer ;) his license text is wrong,
> mentions CC-BY-SA when the data is clearly ODbL.
>
> I'd suggest something like:
>
> "Dear X, I am a member of the OpenStreetMap community that creates all
> the data you're showing on your map. We let you have this data free of
> charge, but in return we ask for proper attribution that makes it clear
> to the users of your app that the data comes from us. Other cycle maps
> on the web present OSM directly on the map page, for example
> http://cycle.travel/map and http://opencyclemap.org/. We respectfully
> ask that you acknowledge us as your data source on the main map also,
> and not hidden in a menu. Also, your acknowledgement still mentions the
> CC-BY-SA license which we don't use for our data any more, it is the
> ODbL nowadays."
>
> Bye
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[OSM-talk] OSM usage violation

[Hans De Kryger]

Hi all,

Just sent this email out last night to
i...@cyclemapapp.com
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Hi there,

Your app (1) & website (2) fail to give attribution to OSM (OpenStreetMap).

Proper attribution (3)

1.) http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cyclemapapp.cmandroid
2.) https://web.cyclemapapp.com/

3.) http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright

Please fix
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Hi Hans,

thank you for reaching out. All Acknowledgement are in both the App and the
Web version in Settings\About\Acknowledgement.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Max speed forward/backward

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http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/399867361#map=19/33.53112/-112.18568

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Shaun McDonald 
wrote:

> Hi Hans,
>
> Do you have an example that you have mapped?
>
> Shaun
>
> On 5 Jul 2016, at 22:09, Hans De Kryger  wrote:
>
> Thanks Paul.
>
> There's a lot of split speed limits here in the valley (Arizona.) I've
> worked hard mapping quite a few. Would love for more services to show them.
>
> On Jul 5, 2016 2:41 AM, "Paul Johnson"  wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Hans De Kryger 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> ​Anyone know of any apps or services that display​ max speed
>> forward/backward tags. I assume most don't know how to?
>>
>
> I know that Osmand will as I've seen it come up on some odd edge cases
> where sign placement is weird (normally Oklahoma doesn't do these split
> limits unless it's not feasible to signpost the limits in the same spot
> both directions).  Someone up towards Colorado should have more exact
> information, as split limits are routine in that state.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Max speed forward/backward

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Thanks Paul.

There's a lot of split speed limits here in the valley (Arizona.) I've
worked hard mapping quite a few. Would love for more services to show them.

On Jul 5, 2016 2:41 AM, "Paul Johnson"  wrote:

On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Hans De Kryger 
wrote:

> ​Anyone know of any apps or services that display​ max speed
> forward/backward tags. I assume most don't know how to?
>

I know that Osmand will as I've seen it come up on some odd edge cases
where sign placement is weird (normally Oklahoma doesn't do these split
limits unless it's not feasible to signpost the limits in the same spot
both directions).  Someone up towards Colorado should have more exact
information, as split limits are routine in that state.

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[OSM-talk] (Warning) Check Email For Your Name

[Hans De Kryger]

If you're the owner of any of these email accounts, your account may have
been compromised.

(Nancy Michael, Serge Wroclaski, Peter Dobratz, Martijn Van Exel, Richard
Weait, Tod Fitch)

I came across suspicions emails that were "supposedly" from these email
accounts. They appeared in my spam box all at the same time. Was able to
screenshot it quickly and write the names down. Don't remember what each
email said but they weren't consistent with a normal email from these
users. Just checked today and they all disappeared.
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[OSM-talk] Max speed forward/backward

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​Anyone know of any apps or services that display​ max speed
forward/backward tags. I assume most don't know how to?

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Re: [OSM-talk] MapRoulette 2.0.1 beta released

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Thanks for all your hard work!

Regards,
Hans

On Jun 27, 2016 12:36 PM, "Martijn van Exel"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I deployed a new version 2.0.1 of MapRoulette at
> http://maproulette.org:8080 yesterday. A lot of things have been changed
> and added since the initial 2.0.0 version. Here are the highlights:
>
> * Everyone now gets their own project automatically upon logging in. Under
> your project, you can create as many challenges as you like.
> * You can create challenges using a GeoJSON file, either local or via a URL
> * The home page now initially shows all challenges. It uses a centroid to
> indicate locations. Click on it to get basic information and metrics about
> that challenge. Use the map to explore challenges around the world! (There
> are not many online yet, why not make your own?)
> * You can now view all your challenge tasks on a map from the admin
> interface (Challenge -> Options -> View)
> * The Metrics page has been improved to show an overview of all (visible)
> challenges.
>
> Also many minor fixes and updates. One small thing I got a lot of requests
> for is the ability to make your own projects visible, which is now
> possible. Your project’s visibility overrides visibility of individual
> challenges. So if your project is not visible, none of your challenges will
> not be visible either. If a challenge is visible, it will appear in the
> search results, on the map, and in the metrics.
>
> For 2.0.2, we are focusing on challenge filtering and per-challenge
> settings. That will likely be the first non-beta release. We will retire
> MapRoulette v1 in a couple of weeks.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions!
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Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v1.9.6 released

[Hans De Kryger]

https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/2732

Regards,
Hans
On Jun 8, 2016 9:47 AM, "Michael Reichert"  wrote:

> Hi Bryan,
>
> Am 08.06.2016 um 17:59 schrieb Bryan Housel:
> > - When setting Wikipedia field value, also set corresponding Wikidata
> tag (worked on by Minh Nguyễn)
>
> Isn't this a kind of mechanical edit which should be discussed on this
> mailing list *beforehand*?
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct
>
> Best regards
>
> Michael
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] ImproveOSM data refresh and some updates

[Hans De Kryger]

Hey Martijn,

Was hoping you guys would add zoom 19 to the recent update. Submitted a few
months ago on the feedback tool already.

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> ImproveOSM has just seen a data refresh that I thought I’d let you know
> about. We ran the latest GPS data against OSM data from May 4 and the
> results are live on the ImproveOSM web site and JOSM plugins. That said,
> don’t hesitate to let me know if you find data you think is incorrect or
> have ideas of what could be improved. There is also a feedback tool on
> improve-osm.org you can use for that.
>
> We made some usability improvements to the plugin as well, I wrote about
> those on the Improve OSM blog[0]. That post also contains a link to this
> 7-question survey about ImproveOSM[1]. If you have a few minutes to
> complete it, you are helping us make ImproveOSM a better tool for all of
> us.
>
> Martijn
>
> [0]
> http://blog.improve-osm.org/en/updates-to-improveosm-josm-plugin-for-better-usability/
> [1] http://goo.gl/forms/Oa7tFEpNSA The survey does not collect personal
> information. However, if you are not comfortable with submitting anything
> through Google Forms, here’s a PDF:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/q13n0jkk6chirk3/Help%20Improve%20ImproveOSM.pdf?dl=0
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[OSM-talk] Weather Underground Now Uses OSM

[Hans De Kryger]

My favorite weather site now uses osm for part of their mapping needs. Yay
for osm!

https://www.wunderground.com

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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding notes on www.openstreetmap.org

[Hans De Kryger]

I just closed a note made by the Phoenix zoo last week. Totally confused
me. Eventually i figured it out. They said something along the lines as
"this is are main entrance. Some guest have used the wrong entrance."

The note was on top of the main entry way into the zoo. Which had been
properly map long ago. They believed somehow that the purpose of notes on
osm was to help others in someway. Not knowing like you said, it's for
missing data or mistakes to fix. So yes oddly i have run into that.

Regards,
Hans
On May 6, 2016 5:17 AM, "David Earl"  wrote:

> It is my experience that many notes people add to the map in my area are
> misunderstanding what notes are for: they try to add an annotated marker in
> the hope they can use it to send people directions, and similar. Is this
> other people's experience too?
>
> Could this maybe be discouraged by changing the wording. Instead of "Add a
> note tot he map" on the hover tool tip, could it say something like "Report
> a correction or addition needed to the map" or some such, and instead of
> "New Note" in the panel heading, say "Report a problem on the map" (no one
> reads the small print underneath).
>
> The other thing people do with notes is to report missing names, when they
> are already there if only they zoomed in (I don't know what the solution
> there is - people won't read instructions). Sometimes this is not shown
> because the caption is there but not shown because it would clash with
> another caption or icon nearby, but very often it is there all along, they
> just didn't look hard enough. Maybe it could zoom the map in when you click
> - that would also help the gross innaccuracy of where people tend to put
> markers.
>
> David
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Re: [OSM-talk] well mapped area for area navigation

[Hans De Kryger]

Phoenix Arizona
On Apr 25, 2016 8:46 PM, "maning sambale" 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for an area to test navigation in light with the new OSRM
> v5 release [0]. Can anyone recommend an area which you think is
> "navigation complete" in OSM?
>
> Of course, "navigation complete means" different for different people,
> here I define navigation for car.  So I'm looking for an area that has
> "complete" map for:
>
> - roads and names
> - oneways
> - traffic signals
> - turn restrictions (including conditional turn restrictions)
> - turn lanes (including bike lanes)
> - speed limits
> - exit signs and destinations for motorways
>
> Advance thanks!
>
> [0]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osrm-talk/2016-April/001184.html
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Global high-resolution model of relief

[Hans De Kryger]

Wouldn't this be helpful for this project? - http://beta.openaerialmap.org/

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:04 PM, moltonel  wrote:

>
>
> On 16 March 2016 18:05:12 GMT+00:00, clustergis 
> wrote:
> >In the ClusterGIS association (http://clustergis.org) we have made a
> >global
> >model of relief of high-resolution (15m/px), in geotiff format.
> >
> >Data can be downloaded from the page http://theearthsrelief.com with CC
> >BY
> >license.
>
> Thanks very much for this. Where did you get the 15m data from, if NASA's
> SRTM is only 30m ? Is it via postprocessing of 30m sources ? What about
> areas where SRTM has holes, like in high-altitude ?
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Re: [OSM-talk] Need some help

[Hans De Kryger]

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Janko Mihelić  wrote:

> All the new data on there should be ODbL too, am I right? It uses old OSM
> data so we should be able to use the new data.
>

​My guess is yes, i just checked it and the website is using data from at
least 2013 or newer so i'm assuming they'd have to accept osm's license
since that's years after the change. Hopefully that's what you meant Janko?

>
> uto, 1. ožu 2016. 02:54 Hans De Kryger  je
> napisao:
>
>> Got a reply from the website saying it's been fixed. You can see it for
>> yourself at the site below.
>>
>> https://coinmap.org/
>> On Feb 23, 2016 9:54 PM, "Hans De Kryger" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Jo Walsh 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> And isn't this the project that caused a lot of problems because the
>>>> users started adding all kind of services/shops/companies without a
>>>> physical presence to the OSM data ? [2]
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=20859
>>>>
>>>> (April 14, 2013)
>>>> [2] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-May/069761.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This would seem to be the case:
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Bitcoin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Automated contributions via this account stopped 8 months ago:
>>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/BitcoinMaps
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Need some help

[Hans De Kryger]

Got a reply from the website saying it's been fixed. You can see it for
yourself at the site below.

https://coinmap.org/
On Feb 23, 2016 9:54 PM, "Hans De Kryger"  wrote:

>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Jo Walsh  wrote:
>
>>
>> And isn't this the project that caused a lot of problems because the
>> users started adding all kind of services/shops/companies without a
>> physical presence to the OSM data ? [2]
>>
>> [1] http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=20859
>>
>> (April 14, 2013)
>> [2] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-May/069761.html
>>
>>
>>
>> This would seem to be the case:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Bitcoin
>>
>>
>>
>> Automated contributions via this account stopped 8 months ago:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/BitcoinMaps
>>
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Need some help

[Hans De Kryger]

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Jo Walsh  wrote:

>
> And isn't this the project that caused a lot of problems because the users
> started adding all kind of services/shops/companies without a physical
> presence to the OSM data ? [2]
>
> [1] http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=20859
>
> (April 14, 2013)
> [2] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-May/069761.html
>
>
>
> This would seem to be the case:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Bitcoin
>
>
>
> Automated contributions via this account stopped 8 months ago:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/BitcoinMaps
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Need some help

[Hans De Kryger]

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Clifford Snow 
wrote:

> Looks like only the first page at the bottom.
>
> The roads in my area are not current.
>
> Have you emailed the contact, coin...@satoshilabs.com?
>

​No i have not yet, anyone feel free to.​


>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Hans De Kryger  > wrote:
>
>> Found a website i'm quite sure uses osm, but they don't show anywhere on
>> the page about who the map data belongs to.
>>
>> https://coinmap.org
>>
>> *Regards,*
>>
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[OSM-talk] Need some help

[Hans De Kryger]

Found a website i'm quite sure uses osm, but they don't show anywhere on
the page about who the map data belongs to.

https://coinmap.org

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Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

[Hans De Kryger]

It's been 10 days and i haven't received a response from this user (1) What
should be done?

(1) http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/2bre99

*Regards,*

*Hans*

*http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13
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On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 5:07 AM, Paul Johnson  wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Simon Poole  wrote:
>
>> > But the idea that facts indexed by Google could be tainted is a
>> > stretch. It's not something they've tried to claim, it would be a
>> > tenuous legal argument, and it doesn't make much sense. I think this
>> > is a case where practical judgment must outweigh theoretical concerns.
>> They have at least historically made noises about 3rd parties (aka MS)
>> using their search results.
>
>
> In this case, though, Microsoft was actually directly copying Google's
> search results, and directly admitted to it.
> http://searchengineland.com/google-bing-is-cheating-copying-our-search-results-62914
>
> That situation is actually closer to being analogous to taking a copy of
> Walden and crossing out Henry David Thoreau's name and writing in your own.
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[OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

[Hans De Kryger]

So i just came across an edit of a user near me that listed the source of
his edit as (Google Maps Street View) (1)

I have just contacted the user asking for more information about his edit
and let him know of the the policy of OpenStreetMap not to copy from other
maps.

So i thought i would search tags (source=google) hoping to find any source
tagged with the word google anywhere. Assuming there has to be more. Here's
what i found (2)
Seems like any others should be addressed.

(1) http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3835343766#map=19/33.85088/-112.10980
(2) https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=source%3Dgoogle

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Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME open-sourced

[Hans De Kryger]

Thanks for the share! This is great news.

*Regards,*

*Hans*

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On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Michał Brzozowski 
wrote:

> A few days ago MAPS.ME - an offline OSM-based map and navigation for
> Android and iOS has been open-sourced. Weird that nobody did mention
> it already, as it's great news.
> https://twitter.com/MAPS_ME/status/649213918255161344
>
> I hope this will boost their development, as it's overall a good and
> user-friendly app, but with its fair share of quirks and overlooks -
> we know there's a huge gap between good and perfect ;-)
>
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[OSM-talk] Traffic Signs

[Hans De Kryger]

I know it's been talked about in the past what the major goals of
OpenStreetMap are. And i remember there being different opinions on what
those are, (when Steve Coast mentioned his goal being Addresses) which i
agree. Addresses are a big future for OSM.

One goal not mention is traffic signs. I think there's a huge potential
once we have traffic signs all over the world in the database. Ways to tag
them in the database being besides the point. (Which still needs to be
addressed) hire did everyone feel about this?
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Re: [OSM-talk] Wikimedia Maps (beta)

[Hans De Kryger]

Thanks for the share!
On Sep 14, 2015 6:25 AM, "Daniel Koć"  wrote:

> Wikimedia is working with their own maps based on OSM data (currently
> still beta):
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Maps
>
> This style is quite simple (even less data than MapQuest Open) and I've
> heard it's based on OSM Bright. Interesting features:
>
> Starting with this tile:
>
> https://maps.wikimedia.org/osm-intl/10/511/340.png
>
> you can see JSON-formatted vector data for visible elements (unfortunately
> it means there's not too much of them):
>
> https://maps.wikimedia.org/osm-intl/10/511/340.json
>
> and also some higher-DPI versions:
>
> https://maps.wikimedia.org/osm-intl/10/511/3...@1.3x.png
> https://maps.wikimedia.org/osm-intl/10/511/3...@2x.png
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Re: [OSM-talk] Motion: Dedicated mailing list for abandoned railways

[Hans De Kryger]

*Regards,*

*Hans*

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On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Jukka Rahkonen <
jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I suggest to make a new mailing list for those who want to talk about
> abandoned railways. I can see that such does not exist yet
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo. It has already suggested to use
> the Historic list https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/historic/ but
> I
> have understood that abandoned railways are special and therefore they
> deserve a dedicated list.
>
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>
> ​1+ agreed​
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Re: [OSM-talk] Road Surface Type Map

[Hans De Kryger]

Thanks maarten! Could of sworn i looked.
On Jun 17, 2015 7:23 PM, "Hans De Kryger"  wrote:

> Does anyone know of a map that displays road surface type? If not maybe it
> been a good idea to request one from itomap. It would be a lot of help to
> mappers who map those tags.
>
> *Regards,*
>
> *Hans*
>
>
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[OSM-talk] Road Surface Type Map

[Hans De Kryger]

Does anyone know of a map that displays road surface type? If not maybe it
been a good idea to request one from itomap. It would be a lot of help to
mappers who map those tags.

*Regards,*

*Hans*


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[OSM-talk] Routing Applications

[Hans De Kryger]

Why do OSRM & OpenRoutingService compete against each other instead of
joining resources and combining efforts to make the best routing service
out there? Am i missing something? I know it's nice to have different
services for different uses but this doesn't seem like a good use of
resources at all. I may be the only one with this opinion, but this has bug
me for awhile.

*Regards,*

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Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

[Hans De Kryger]

Isn't the point of remote mapping the ability to pull a large amount of
people from all parts of life together and map an area of need in a short
period of time? That simply can't be done in area's affected by a disaster
due to the fact they are themselves are recovering from the impact of said
disaster. Asking locals for helps seems not possible.
On Jun 13, 2015 9:46 PM, "maning sambale" 
wrote:

> Sometimes I wonder whether remote/armchair mapping has similar effects as
> imports to the growth of the local community.
>
> I think we have recognized that imports has a place in osm provided it
> follows community principles and guidelines. Maybe its time to discuss
> similar principles and guidelines to remote/armchair mapping?
>
> cheers,
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapillary plugin for JOSM

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On May 5, 2015 8:45 AM, "Shaun McDonald"  wrote:
>
> It’s currently possible to comment on single images, commenting on the
whole sequence would be interesting.
>
> If one person thinks they have added all the details, someone else is
likely to come up with some other obscure tags that would be added due to
information in the photos that the original person never thought of.
>
> Being able to overlay the speed limit signs on the top of the ITO speed
limit map for example could be more interesting for example.
+1
>
> Shaun
>
>> On 5 May 2015, at 16:27, Mike Thompson  wrote:
>>
>> Looking forward to the JOSM plugin!
>>
>> Is there, or will there be, some sort of way that one can indicate that
a sequence of Mapillary images has been reviewed and relevant content added
to OSM? Perhaps a notes field in the Mapillary database where a mapper
could state "mapped signs" or "mapped surface type."
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Janko Mihelić  wrote:
>>>
>>> This brings us exciting possibilities. Someone could make a layer that
detects inconsistencies between mapillary sign data and osm data. For
example:
>>>
>>> -there should be a oneway street near a oneway sign
>>> -there should be a turn restriction or a oneway street junction near a
sign with a turn restriction
>>> -there should be a maxspeed tag where there is a max speed sign
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Janko
>>>
>>>
>>> uto, 5. svi 2015. 00:49 Clifford Snow  je
napisao:


 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:16 PM, moltonel 3x Combo 
wrote:
>
> Looking forward to the josm plugin and the merging/locating of signs
:)


 +1 - I got so excited that I purchased a new cell phone mount from
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Re: [OSM-talk] Right Way to Map Bridge over Waterways

[Hans De Kryger]

Did you add a layer tag to the bridge?
On Apr 18, 2015 4:33 AM, "Enock Seth Nyamador"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can someone please help me with the right way to map bridges over
> waterways.
> What I know and have been doing all this while is first map the waterway
> and draw bridge over it.
>
> But as of JOSM 8159 Validation Result tells me: "Crossing
> waterway/highway".
> What's the problem here? I guess am missing something.
>
> Best,
>
> - Enock
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] PennLive.com using OSM without attribution?

[Hans De Kryger]

Just received an email from nick the writer of the article saying he would
take care of it today.

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wrote:

> I sent him a email, i'll let you know when i get a reply.
>
> *Regards,*
>
> *Hans*
>
>
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>
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:27 PM, James Mast 
> wrote:
>
>> http://www.pennlive.com/projects/2015/pa-turnpike-tunnels/
>>
>> Just happened to see this article talking about the future of the
>> Allegheny Tunnels along the PA Turnpike (I-76/I-70).  About 2/3rd down in
>> the article, they have a screenshot of OSM there showing the possible new
>> alignments for the PA Turnpike.
>>
>> My question is, is this allowed with the current license, or do they
>> still need to have the attribution on the image (or right below it)?
>>
>> If somebody that is more knowledgeable in this would like to contact them
>> about this if they are in the wrong, please, be my guest.
>>
>> -James
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] PennLive.com using OSM without attribution?

[Hans De Kryger]

I sent him a email, i'll let you know when i get a reply.

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wrote:

> http://www.pennlive.com/projects/2015/pa-turnpike-tunnels/
>
> Just happened to see this article talking about the future of the
> Allegheny Tunnels along the PA Turnpike (I-76/I-70).  About 2/3rd down in
> the article, they have a screenshot of OSM there showing the possible new
> alignments for the PA Turnpike.
>
> My question is, is this allowed with the current license, or do they still
> need to have the attribution on the image (or right below it)?
>
> If somebody that is more knowledgeable in this would like to contact them
> about this if they are in the wrong, please, be my guest.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] New statistics on volume of "note" creation and closing

[Hans De Kryger]

On Mar 3, 2015 2:17 PM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:
>
> On 3/3/2015 9:47 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
>>
>> Are notes more-likely to be resolved when a dialogue is possible
>> (non-anonymous)?  If the data suggests, for example, that anonymous
>> notes typically take 3 months to resolve, and non-anonymous notes take
>> 36 hours, perhaps that would be sufficient motivation for a note
>> author to leave contact information.
>
> Another possible reason is that non-anonymous notes tend to be from more
experienced users who leave easier to interpret notes. In that case,
there's not much to be done aside from normal measures to guide people to
mapping and try to make people return visitors. The solution to
inexperience is practice.
>
> 1+
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Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

[Hans De Kryger]

Sounds like a great idea. My favorites to work on is dual␣carriageway
 &
not␣dual␣carriageway
.

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>
> I'm opening a discussion about a potential mechanical edit to FIXME tags:
>
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/fixme#values
> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/FIXME#values
>
> It is apparent that a number of imports have left tens of thousands of
> fixme notes that have a low chance of ever getting addressed.  Pick your
> favorite from the lists above: set␣better␣denotation is my mine.
>
> The goal would be to reduce the pain felt by anyone with "fixme warnings"
> turned on in their editing tool.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

[Hans De Kryger]

On Feb 20, 2015 1:42 PM, "Martijn van Exel"  wrote:
>
> As for Scout, I talked about this in my diary entry some time ago - not
all of these are going to be useful and there is going to be noise. We're
looking at improving the quality of the notes that make it through - which
is already a tiny, tiny fraction the notes we get internally. Only through
making mistakes do we learn how to get it right - not by not doing it in
the first place. I would say it's a stretch to call this a 'huge waste' of
our time - as I write this there are only a little over 100 notes posted on
OSM through our Scout users.
>
> In general I think it should be easier, not harder, to create notes and
Ian's onosm is a good example of how to accomplish that. Adding artificial
friction makes no sense to me. Less notes should not be an objective,
smarter ways to look at them and process them should.

Thanks martijn for replying. I know it's hard to sort through the mass
amount of notes you guys get. I didn't mean to throw you guys under the
bus. It's just overwhelming the notes that are out there. I'm glad to hear
you guys are still working to improve the quality of your notes.

>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Hans De Kryger <
hans.dekryge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I been meaning to write up an email about this subject last week but
never got to it. The problem with osm notes i have is scout. The last week
I've been trying to close a lot of scout notes and have found that at least
75 of them are app errors. Of which i can doing nothing but close. Just a
huge waste of my and other mappers time. Must of them just say "app won't
pin my location down" or " i hate this app!" Very long list. But in the end
it's not a map issue but a app issue.
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2015 11:34 PM, "Bryce Nesbitt"  wrote:
>>>
>>> In preparation for a project, I made a concerted effort to clear
"notes" in areas I know well.
>>> There were a few gems in there, but mostly it was pretty rough going.
>>>
>>> Many open notes were not actionable:
>>>
>>>> 1) Pure junk (empty, scribbles)
>>>> 2) Unsolvable wishes
>>>> 3) Incomplete information (with no way to contact the poster).
>>>> 4) Requests to add a particular business, which did not interest me.
>>>>
>>>> 5) Private notes made by note author for themselves.
>>>> 6) Lazy Requests to do cleanup that the note writer did not want to do
themselves.
>>>>
>>>> 7) Gripes about other mappers.
>>>>
>>>> 8) Stuff that had already been done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What could be done to make notes better?
>>>
>>>
>>> The current top page introduction reads:
>>>
>>>> Spotted a mistake or something missing? Let other mappers know so we
can fix it. Move the marker to the correct position and type a note to
explain the problem. (Please don't enter personal information or
information from copyrighted maps or directory listings.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Could there be a multi step form?  Or an extended description:
>>>
>>>> Spotted a mistake or something missing? Let other mappers know so a
volunteer can have a look. Move the marker to the correct position and type
a note to explain the problem.
>>>>
>>>> * Please don't enter personal information or information from
copyrighted maps or directory listings.
>>>> * Please do include references to websites, photos or other
documentation.
>>>> * Please try to be complete, and write with the reader in mind.
>>>>
>>>> * For adding features, consider adding them yourself, rather than
leaving a note.  OSM is easy to edit, and your fellow mappers and community
members value contributions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> If the number of notes grows faster than the number of mappers, that's
a problem.  Notes
>>> will cease to be useful.  There are two solutions:
>>>
>>> 1) Get more experienced mappers to process notes
>>> 2) Increase the "friction" of creating a note, in hopes that means less
notes of higher quality.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

[Hans De Kryger]

On Feb 20, 2015 6:00 PM, "Greg Troxel"  wrote:
>
>
> Bryce Nesbitt  writes:
>
> > 6) Lazy Requests to do cleanup that the note writer did not want to do
> > themselves.
>
> That's unnecessarily perjorative.  I've seen a number of notes around me
> that could be characterized that way, and I've entered a number myself.
> I view it as a public shared todo list.  I've fixed some of them myself,
> others (esp. oceanvortex) have fixed some, and some remain.   It's far
> faster to drop a note than to do the work, and often it's simply a
> matter of half an hour with bing and tiger or the massgis parcels layer
> to resolve.
>
> I consider this use case to be a successful example of notes.
>
> That said, there is a lot of junk.  But I just close them if I can't
> figure them out and if I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be able to if I showed
> up.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

[Hans De Kryger]

I been meaning to write up an email about this subject last week but never
got to it. The problem with osm notes i have is scout. The last week I've
been trying to close a lot of scout notes and have found that at least 75
of them are app errors. Of which i can doing nothing but close. Just a huge
waste of my and other mappers time. Must of them just say "app won't pin my
location down" or " i hate this app!" Very long list. But in the end it's
not a map issue but a app issue.
On Feb 19, 2015 11:34 PM, "Bryce Nesbitt"  wrote:

> In preparation for a project, I made a concerted effort to clear "notes"
> in areas I know well.
> There were a few gems in there, but mostly it was pretty rough going.
>
> Many open notes were not actionable:
>
> 1) Pure junk (empty, scribbles)
> 2) Unsolvable wishes
> 3) Incomplete information (with no way to contact the poster).
> 4) Requests to add a particular business, which did not interest me.
>
> 5) Private notes made by note author for themselves.
> 6) Lazy Requests to do cleanup that the note writer did not want to do
> themselves.
>
> 7) Gripes about other mappers.
>
> 8) Stuff that had already been done.
>
>
>
> What could be done to make notes better?
>
>
> The current top page introduction reads:
>
> *Spotted a mistake or something missing? Let other mappers know so we can
> fix it. Move the marker to the correct position and type a note to explain
> the problem. (Please don't enter personal information or information from
> copyrighted maps or directory listings.)*
>
>
> Could there be a multi step form?  Or an extended description:
>
> Spotted a mistake or something missing? Let other mappers know so a
> volunteer can have a look. Move the marker to the correct position and type
> a note to explain the problem.
>
> * Please don't enter personal information or information from copyrighted
> maps or directory listings.
> * Please do include references to websites, photos or other documentation.
> * Please try to be complete, and write with the reader in mind.
>
> * For adding features, consider adding them yourself, rather than leaving
> a note.  OSM is easy to edit, and your fellow mappers and community members
> value contributions.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> If the number of notes grows faster than the number of mappers, that's a
> problem.  Notes
> will cease to be useful.  There are two solutions:
>
> 1) Get more experienced mappers to process notes
> 2) Increase the "friction" of creating a note, in hopes that means less
> notes of higher quality.
>
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Usage without attribution: US Geological Survey

[Hans De Kryger]

*Regards,*

*Hans*


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On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Clifford Snow 
wrote:

> Paul,
> When I get home later today I'll email a USGS employee I know. He can
> probably suggest who I can contact.
>
> Clifford
> On Feb 17, 2015 1:32 PM, "Paul Johnson"  wrote:
>
>> On the streets layer?  I don't doubt the other layers are lacking proper
>> attribution as well.  But OSM is ours.
>>
>>
​Yeah, where i'm at here maps is crappy so it stands out easy.​


> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Hans De Kryger > > wrote:
>>
>>> It looks to me that there using here maps. Around my area it's pretty
>>> much dead on with what here maps is shows.
>>>
>>> *Regards,*
>>>
>>> *Hans*
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Paul Johnson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Clifford Snow >>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Paul Johnson 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Found it here while checking out a nearby earthquake I was notified
>>>>>> about...
>>>>>> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usb000tiqz#general_map
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "Street" layer of the map is very clearly taking tiles from
>>>>>> Mapquest Open (spotted at relatively low zoom over tulsa due to Mapquest
>>>>>> lagging months behind on that zoom over parts of I 244 and I 44 which 
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> tagged during major construction operations as recently as last fall in a
>>>>>> manner that which that renderer didn't understand, leaving gaps over the
>>>>>> Arkansas River on 244 and Midtown Tulsa near Lewis Avenue on I 44);
>>>>>> confirmed by zooming in deeper around the BOK Center in downtown Tulsa 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> a pretty high level of detail of the block the arena is on itself along
>>>>>> with a number of city sidewalks from changesets I uploaded in the last
>>>>>> week).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Legal" page is 404.  "About Us" doesn't seem to mention anything
>>>>>> either.  No attribution on map itself.  Only the "Street" layer appears 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be from OSM data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul,
>>>>> I can verify that the street view is OSM. I added some service roads
>>>>> near my house which would normally show on a typical map.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you want to contact them?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apparently, Google decided this message was spam.  I think I trust
>>>> someone else to this if possible.
>>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Usage without attribution: US Geological Survey

[Hans De Kryger]

It looks to me that there using here maps. Around my area it's pretty much
dead on with what here maps is shows.

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Paul Johnson  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Clifford Snow 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Paul Johnson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Found it here while checking out a nearby earthquake I was notified
>>> about...
>>> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usb000tiqz#general_map
>>>
>>> The "Street" layer of the map is very clearly taking tiles from Mapquest
>>> Open (spotted at relatively low zoom over tulsa due to Mapquest lagging
>>> months behind on that zoom over parts of I 244 and I 44 which were tagged
>>> during major construction operations as recently as last fall in a manner
>>> that which that renderer didn't understand, leaving gaps over the Arkansas
>>> River on 244 and Midtown Tulsa near Lewis Avenue on I 44); confirmed by
>>> zooming in deeper around the BOK Center in downtown Tulsa with a pretty
>>> high level of detail of the block the arena is on itself along with a
>>> number of city sidewalks from changesets I uploaded in the last week).
>>>
>>> "Legal" page is 404.  "About Us" doesn't seem to mention anything
>>> either.  No attribution on map itself.  Only the "Street" layer appears to
>>> be from OSM data.
>>>
>>
>> Paul,
>> I can verify that the street view is OSM. I added some service roads near
>> my house which would normally show on a typical map.
>>
>> Do you want to contact them?
>>
>
> Apparently, Google decided this message was spam.  I think I trust someone
> else to this if possible.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on osm.org

[Hans De Kryger]

Thanks to all those involved for your hard work!

*Regards,*

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On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Matthijs Melissen  wrote:

> On 16 February 2015 at 19:20, Rob Nickerson 
> wrote:
> > Congratulations to all those who were involved in getting
> directions/routing
> > on openstreetmap.org :-)
>
> A large step forward, thanks to Richard Fairhurst and all others who
> made this possible!
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Find all your unresolved Notes

[Hans De Kryger]

​Thanks so much! Very useful.​

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On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Matija Nalis <
mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote:

> OSM Notes are quite useful feature, and if you take advantage of it, you'd
> have a lots of Notes.  Vast majority of them resolved and closed, of
> course,
> since you're an active mapper.
>
> However, those that remain open will likely be lost forever, as browsing
> your OSM user pages through dozens (and hundreds) of closed Notes (until
> you
> find open one) is very tedious. And if you have multiple accounts (and/or
> are
> tutoring your SO and friends in OSM), the pain in finding older unresolved
> Notes increases exponentially.
>
> So I've made a web script that shows you ONLY open notes for specified user
> (or several of them).
>
> You can use it at: http://my-notes.osm-hr.org/
>
> (or go grab the source yourself at https://github.com/osm-hr/my-osm-notes
> )
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Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

[Hans De Kryger]

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:01 PM, SomeoneElse  wrote:

> On 06/01/2015 01:25, Michał Brzozowski wrote:
>
>> * Software for monitoring OSM changes is still very rudimentary. I
>> wanna be the f**king NSA. It's incredibly hard to check newbies' work
>> quickly (eg. you have to load every changeset separately into OSMHV).
>>
>
> I'm not sure that it is "incredibly hard" - I rarely need to throw new
> users' changesets at osmhv - that usually gets saved for the wide
> changesets of people making things match JOSM's presets.  It's usually
> pretty easy to categorise new users into "adding new things; no problems",
> "adding things OK but haven't quite grasped $some_concept (like joining
> roads at nodes)" or "Oh dear they're really struggling".
>
>
>  * Why do these newbies make so many mistakes?
>>
>
> Because it's difficult, dammit!  When I started mapping there was a large
> area of white space for several miles around my house - not even the roads
> were mapped.  It took a long time to get the hang of things, but while I
> was doing it there were no local mappers breathing down my neck saying that
> I was "tagging for the renderer" or similar.
>
> We have to give new mappers the time to get the hang of things, and offer
> help when required, but constructively and not just saying "your're doing
> it wrong".  One of the sad things about OSM is that many people are willing
> to fix the _data_ but not to fix the _people_ - if you look at the changset
> history anywhere you'll often see quite wide changesets with descriptions
> such as "fix typo" - but rarely are the people making these changes going
> back to the original mappers explaining the best way to map a certain
> feature.


 I think the reason most long time mappers don't communicate the mistake
the was made to new mapper
​s​
 is
​ the fact that where​
 afraid of getting into a long drawn out conversation with them or it
turning into a disagreement and
​
end
​ing​
 up nowhere. Just two frustrated mappers. I would like to point out a case
in point. There's a mapper whose page a ran across that said "All emails to
me will immediately be deleted without being read."Now how do we communicate
​​
when we have mappers who feel that way
​ in the community​
 It's hard.
​​

>
>
>  The documentation is a
>> mess, editor presets are incomplete (whereas they should include all
>> approved and other widely used features)
>>
>>
> Sometimes we forget that real life is complicated.  It's not a simple case
> of "tag X or tag Y" - something might be a pub, or a restaurant, or
> somewhere in between, and sometimes what might be the best category can
> change.
>
> We saw it recently where well-meaning people tried to mechanically change
> "wood=deciduous" to "leaf_type=broadleaved" (most deciduous trees in the UK
> are broad_leaved, though some aren't - for example
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/40614704 ).  At the weekend I went and
> had a look at this area:
>
> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/6SY
>
> and it turns out that things are _much_ more complicated than how it is
> currently mapped (by me!) suggests.  There are at least four groups of
> "planting type" there (old-growth broadleaved deciduous on the SSSI,
> planted-for-forestry pine in neat rows, some "odds and sods" mixed
> deciduous between the pine plantings, and some areas that are virtually
> heathland).  No amount of "remotely changing tag X to tag Y" will capture
> that detail - you need to go there and have a look.
>
> However, if a new mapper arrives at an area like this part of Clipstone
> Forest but blank and maps it all just as "some sort of woodland", perhaps
> even very roughly to start with, they've still made the map better than it
> was before.
>
> Sometimes we forget that we were all new mappers once.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andy
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Streams / Videos from SOTM 2014

[Hans De Kryger]

Thanks so much for your work Nicolas!

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Nicolás Alvarez 
wrote:

> Peter Barth  won2.de> writes:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > is anybody aware if there is a place with the full video stream or *all*
> > videos. I saw (in another thread?!) this page on Vimeo¹. From time to
> > time someone uploaded further videos but for a week or so nothing
> changed.
> > And I'm pretty sure there are still missing ones.
> >
> > Peda
> >
> > [1] http://vimeo.com/album/3134207
>
> I apologize for the delay in uploading the videos, it's entirely my fault
> (and depression, demotivation, etc). Videos from days 1 and 2 are all
> uploaded, but day 3 is not uploaded yet. I'm now back working on it and
> should have them all up soon.
>
> As for the full unedited video stream, it's only available in a pile of
> DVDs
> on my desk and in Gonzalo Pérez's hard disk...
>
> --
> Nicolás
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[OSM-talk] Minor Roads

[Hans De Kryger]

How does everyone feel about making minor roads render darker? You can
hardly tell the difference between a residential street and a minor road in
potlatch or I.D

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Re: [OSM-talk] Omaha World-Herald using OSM without attribution

[Hans De Kryger]

Hard to tell, my guess would be yes it's osm. Does leaflet power anything
besides osm? Sorry about that, forgot to hit reply all.

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Paul Johnson  wrote:
>
> Just noticed this and took a quick glance, didn't see any obvious signs
> that there was any attribution on the map at
> http://www.omaha.com/news/crime/dui-case-omaha-police-arrest-man-who-was-driving-on/article_e660b1c6-8534-11e4-b4b3-1fa3417935b4.html,
> which after scrolling over to more familiar territory, definitely appears
> to be from OpenStreetMap.
>
> Could we get a second pair of eyes on this and maybe someone in the area
> contact the paper about getting us some credit on that?
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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Reinvigorating working groups. Join in!

[Hans De Kryger]

I would definitely love to contribute my help in any way possible.

Regards,
Hans
On Dec 8, 2014 2:12 PM, "Richard Weait"  wrote:

> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Richard Weait 
> Date: Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:07 PM
> Subject: Reinvigorating working groups. Join in!
> To: "osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org" 
>
>
> There have been recent discussions about reinvigorating various
> OpenStreetMap Foundation Working Groups.
>
> Recent board minutes indicated the membership management would be
> moved from a board position membership secretary to a working group
> format.[1]
>
> Michael Collinson spoke [2] of his interest in seeing new people and
> more people participating in Working Groups, based on his experiences
> and earlier work by Matt Amos.
>
> I wrote recently[3] about who might join a working group, why, and
> what they might be able to offer a working group.  Shortly after I
> published that, Jono Bacon tweeted an image that struck me as helpful,
> inspirational and super appropriate for OpenStreetMap.  So, I wrote
> about that as well.  [4]
>
> In addition to the new membership WG, there will be announcements for
> others.  Michael Collinson spoke of the need for more participation in
> LWG and if I remember correctly MT[5].  There will be at least one
> more, shortly, but it isn't mine to announce. :-)
>
> Best regards and happy mapping,
>
> Richard[6]
>
> tl;dr
>
> You do not have to be an expert, or know all of the answers, to be
> valuable to a working group. You can join armed only with enthusiasm,
> though organizational skills and communication skills are a benefit.
>
> [1]
> http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board/Minutes/2014-11-20#Membership_Secretary
> [2] earlier on this osmf-talk@ list
> [3] http://weait.com/working-groups-1
> [4] http://weait.com/on-ramp
> [5] corrections and clarifications welcome, of course.
> [6] who previously participated in several working groups at various times.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Moderator statement. Please read before posting

[Hans De Kryger]

Well said Michael, thanks!

Regards,
Hans
On Nov 2, 2014 2:26 AM, "Michael Collinson"  wrote:

>  Rule 1: Have Fun!
>
> The OSM project depends on folks participating because we want to and
> because, measured in our own terms, we have fun. Whoever we are. Whatever
> we do.
>
> Crowdsourcing depends on as many people as possible being involved and
> engaged. For us, that means women and men, professors and school children,
> folks from literally every country in the world, non-native and native
> English speakers.  All are on this list. Repeat: All are on this list.  We
> welcome you.  We hope you will stay and read ... and may be get into
> posting too.  We are not doing a very good job at that, are we?
>
> So, "Steve's better map" thread. Let's end it.  Rational, courteous
> presentation and discussion of visions is of vital importance, particularly
> on this international list. So, if there are positive things you want to
> pick up as specific new threads, please go ahead ... but be guided by my
> advice below.
>
> Lastly, and I know at least one of the principal players has signed up for
> this. A truly great free MOOC course is starting again tomorrow, 3rd
> November.  If you want to be more effective in forming opinion in
> OpenStreetMap to the point that things actually happen, sign up. At
> minimum, focus on watching the first and last videos in the course.  The
> course is much more general than the title suggests.
>
> *Inspiring Leadership through Emotional Intelligence*
> *https://www.coursera.org/course/lead-ei
> * (English with English, Chinese
> (Simplified), Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian subtitles).
>
> Mike
>
> *Mike's personal checklist for dealing with "stormy weather"*
>
> I have evolved this after many years on this list and our occasional
> "storms".  I am aiming this at the active Thinkers within our community
> whose input I respect and encourage:
>
> o Think of your whole audience (above) and how to engage them.  Most of
> your audience will never actually reply to you.  [Although every now and
> again you will get a really nice offlist message. They always make my day.]
>
> o Engage positively, the academic buzz-word is "Positive Attractors" ...
> watch the first course videos.  After all, you want to persuade people that
> You Are Right.  That, whether you like it or not, is done emotionally as
> well as logically.
>
> o When there is a "storm". Post less (or may be not at all), not more.  I
> am a native English-speaker and scan-reader (= I can read very quickly),
> but not even I can keep up with the current thread, so I miss interesting
> and thought-provoking things  ... so what about everyone else?  Wait a day,
> structure what you want to say strategically over two or three well placed
> mailings.  (If you follow the totality of *all* my postings to all lists
> over the last two weeks, you will see I am doing exactly this.  And I will
> win eventually!)
>
> o Separate personalities from their arguments. If you want say You Are
> Wrong, it is perfectly possible to say this without direct personal attack.
> Yep, some people will violate this and upset you, just ignore it.
>
> o Separate people's character from their ideas.  ... Oh, I have already
> said that.  :-)
>
> o Lastly. A positive argument, crisis, storm, whatever, has two phases.
> The first can be unpleasant if we are not all 100% emotionally and socially
> very intelligent, which alas we are not.  "Airing dirty washing" (English
> idiom = talking publicly about things that were previously private).
> Violent disagreements.  Healthy, but highly adversarial debate. And so on.
> It is only positive if there is a second closure phase, that involves calm
> reflection, consensus-seeking, taking other people's views into account ...
> and deciding on a course of action that you may not be 100% happy with, but
> a large number of people are ... And we actually do something!  It really
> annoys how little we consciously move on to the that ultra-important phase
> 2!
>
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

[Hans De Kryger]

I completely agree with David. I  disagree with mapillary's terms of
service.

Regards,
Hans
On Oct 23, 2014 6:03 AM, "Craig Wallace"  wrote:

> On 2014-10-23 11:20, David Cuenca wrote:
>
>> There are many people who record both a gps trace and a video of their
>> itinerary.
>> Do you think it would be viable to use these videos as a sort of street
>> view by associating the frames to a location? When there is no gps
>> trace, it could be done by interpolation, defining synchronization
>> points between map and video.
>>
>> It is not 360°, but at least there would be some images of remote areas.
>>
>
> For the GoPro, I find its usually more useful in timelapse model.
> ie taking a photo every second, or maybe every 5 or 10 seconds, depends on
> what you are surveying and how fast you are moving.
>
> The still photos are usually much better quality and higher resolution
> than frames from the video. So more useful for reading housenames etc.
> Plus its easy to geotag all of the photos (I use GeoSetter), then load
> them into JOSM.
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[OSM-talk] Tiger 2014 Shapfiles just released

[Hans De Kryger]

Released August 19, 2014 -

https://www.census.gov/geo/maps-data/data/tiger-line.html

Anyone know if they will be added to I.D editor anytime soon?

*Regards,*

*Hans*


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[OSM-talk] Internet Archive - OSM

[Hans De Kryger]

If anyone wants to go back in time to see what osm use to look like. Here
you go.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120201004351/http://www.openstreetmap.org/

*Regards,*

*Hans*


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[OSM-talk] Potlatch 2

[Hans De Kryger]

I don't know if anyone else is aware of this, but Potlatch 2 is completely
falling apart, It's starting to become unusable. It's a concern for me
because it's a huge part of my editing. Anyone else having problems with it?
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[OSM-talk] Hi

[Hans De Kryger]

Has anyone ever thought of developing a program to compare street names
from tiger to street names in osm? I know I've come across plenty of errors
in which the street name is misspelled or completely wrong.
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