On Feb 20, 2015 1:42 PM, "Martijn van Exel" <m...@rtijn.org> wrote: > > As for Scout, I talked about this in my diary entry some time ago - not all of these are going to be useful and there is going to be noise. We're looking at improving the quality of the notes that make it through - which is already a tiny, tiny fraction the notes we get internally. Only through making mistakes do we learn how to get it right - not by not doing it in the first place. I would say it's a stretch to call this a 'huge waste' of our time - as I write this there are only a little over 100 notes posted on OSM through our Scout users. > > In general I think it should be easier, not harder, to create notes and Ian's onosm is a good example of how to accomplish that. Adding artificial friction makes no sense to me. Less notes should not be an objective, smarter ways to look at them and process them should.
Thanks martijn for replying. I know it's hard to sort through the mass amount of notes you guys get. I didn't mean to throw you guys under the bus. It's just overwhelming the notes that are out there. I'm glad to hear you guys are still working to improve the quality of your notes. > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Hans De Kryger < hans.dekryge...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I been meaning to write up an email about this subject last week but never got to it. The problem with osm notes i have is scout. The last week I've been trying to close a lot of scout notes and have found that at least 75 of them are app errors. Of which i can doing nothing but close. Just a huge waste of my and other mappers time. Must of them just say "app won't pin my location down" or " i hate this app!" Very long list. But in the end it's not a map issue but a app issue. >> >> On Feb 19, 2015 11:34 PM, "Bryce Nesbitt" <bry...@obviously.com> wrote: >>> >>> In preparation for a project, I made a concerted effort to clear "notes" in areas I know well. >>> There were a few gems in there, but mostly it was pretty rough going. >>> >>> Many open notes were not actionable: >>> >>>> 1) Pure junk (empty, scribbles) >>>> 2) Unsolvable wishes >>>> 3) Incomplete information (with no way to contact the poster). >>>> 4) Requests to add a particular business, which did not interest me. >>>> >>>> 5) Private notes made by note author for themselves. >>>> 6) Lazy Requests to do cleanup that the note writer did not want to do themselves. >>>> >>>> 7) Gripes about other mappers. >>>> >>>> 8) Stuff that had already been done. >>> >>> >>> >>> What could be done to make notes better? >>> >>> >>> The current top page introduction reads: >>> >>>> Spotted a mistake or something missing? Let other mappers know so we can fix it. Move the marker to the correct position and type a note to explain the problem. (Please don't enter personal information or information from copyrighted maps or directory listings.) >>> >>> >>> Could there be a multi step form? Or an extended description: >>> >>>> Spotted a mistake or something missing? Let other mappers know so a volunteer can have a look. Move the marker to the correct position and type a note to explain the problem. >>>> >>>> * Please don't enter personal information or information from copyrighted maps or directory listings. >>>> * Please do include references to websites, photos or other documentation. >>>> * Please try to be complete, and write with the reader in mind. >>>> >>>> * For adding features, consider adding them yourself, rather than leaving a note. OSM is easy to edit, and your fellow mappers and community members value contributions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> If the number of notes grows faster than the number of mappers, that's a problem. Notes >>> will cease to be useful. There are two solutions: >>> >>> 1) Get more experienced mappers to process notes >>> 2) Increase the "friction" of creating a note, in hopes that means less notes of higher quality. >>> >>> >>> >>> Your thoughs? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk mailing list >>> talk@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> > > > > -- > Martijn van Exel > skype: mvexel
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