[Talk-pt] Tchau OSM-PT :)
Hi there, I left Portugal one months ago and I really enjoyed my stay. Country and people are muito simpático :) Now I had the time to add the latest collected data to Lisboa. It was housenumbers for Graca: http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/105188#map=17/38.72440/-9.11840 But I see that numbering is here different than what I know so please somebody needs to check it again and add the approriate addr:street=* tag I also uploaded the translated flyer to the SVN: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/portuguese_flyer_2013_01/ So please make use of this work and adapt and finally print it. Would me make very happy to see somebody of you at the wiki.osm.org mainpage picture of the week holding a flyer in front of an typical portuguese cafe :) greetings from Rostock (north east Germany), Matthias (user:!i!) ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-pt] Portuguese flyer? (needs YOUR review!)(now really)
as something like apontamentos). There's another big mistake in the text : Em www.openstreetmap.pt encontrarás a entrada para a comunidade Portuguesa e ligações para fóruns e listas de correio electrónico. The openstreetmap.pt domain have been reserved, there is a wordpress running but it seems nobody touch it recently, actually is not very useful. If we want to keep it in the leaflet, it's best to do something on the website (to the people who has the key of the website, feel free to ask for help on this list ;-). And we have no forum, just the mailing list (and an IRC channel which nobody have heard of it :-). Francisco - Mail original - De: Mauro Santos registo.maill...@gmail.com À: talk-pt@openstreetmap.org Envoyé: Samedi 26 Octobre 2013 00:28:25 Objet: Re: [Talk-pt] Portuguese flyer? (needs YOUR review!) On 25-10-2013 22:57, Matthias Meisser wrote: Am 25.10.2013 19:35, schrieb Mauro Santos: The translation looks good. I've spotted a couple typos s/eligações/e ligações/ and s/azona/a zona/. Obrigado! The other thing I've noticed, and I don't know very well how to explain it in english, is that the verbs have been conjugated in a way that it seems the writer knows the reader personally (and are friends). What I mean is, Podes encontrar o web... is similar to Tu podes encontrar o web..., using Tu is not polite if you don't know the other person. Personally I prefer to see Pode encontrar o web I suppose that teenagers don't care about how it's written but someone the age of their parents (or older) might not like it, I'd say that the flyer should try not to give a bad first impression. I guess this was mixed as english just knows 'you' (you boy vs. you sir), so I think Miguel just choose what sounds reasonable to him. A more serious tone would b appreciated IMHO and is used in DE edition, too. Finally, where it says open-source software, does it mean open source or free software[1]? [1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html#open-source Wow, I guess this is getting political ;) I made just the translation an DE also used open source that is IMHO more a buzzword to non-geeks than free software. As the topic of the flyer is free mapping, we IMHO should avoid to get to close into details, but maybe you prefer using a different term for FLOSS? My idea was not to make it a political discussion but I agree that it might have come across looking like that. My idea was to be accurate/correct because ... we should/can be :p I do have to agree that for the general audience open source will be easier to recognize and identify with than free software. Matthias On 25-10-2013 18:36, Matthias Meisser wrote: Hi, thanks to my colleague Miguel here at ISCTE, we have a first translation in Portuguese: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:!i!/PT_flyer So please review and improve it if you like. We also need a new paragraph on the OSGeo PT, ideally with the same length. Bom fim-de-semana, Matthias Am 23.10.2013 18:42, schrieb f.dos.san...@free.fr: Funny, today there's a blog speaking of promotional leaflets : http://blog.gravitystorm.co.uk/ I see that the idea of a portuguese flyer is in good shape but didn't know how I can help you, I can't speak german ;-) I also think the best pictures are for Lisboa in the low zoom and Porto with the high zoom. Francisco. - Mail original - From: Matthias Meisser dig...@arcor.de To: talk-pt@openstreetmap.org Date: 23/10/2013 14:56:47 Subject: Re: [Talk-pt] Portuguese flyer? Am 21.10.2013 20:45, schrieb f.dos.san...@free.fr: I've not replied because I don't know ;-) Não tem problema ;) All the mapping party I've heard have been organized by the OSGeo Local Chapter, I don't think they have an OSM flyer (I hope someone could prove me wrong :-) but it's a very good idea to have one. They used to have a wiki and a dedicated page for mapping events (but it's down) : http://wiki.osgeopt.pt/index.php/Vamos_mapear_Portugal Hopefully some OSGeo members read this list and you'll get an answer, if not we can cross-post to the OSGeo mailing list for a larger audience : http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/portugal/ Their list is not OSM related but they are a bigger community so they will have better idea for sponsors and publishing partners. I contacted the OSGeoPT and the president Jorge agreed, that the *chapter will spend the money* and deal with the printing if we finished the localisation. I also contacted Frederik (Geofabrik chef), if he is ok with replacing their promotion at the flyer with an OSGeo 'advertising'. He is very ok with that and offered us to create a *high res map rendering* for the flyer. So now the question is, *which areas* we like to see at the flyer? There is one place at one folding segment and second one what covers 2xsegments. At the german flyer
Re: [Talk-pt] Portuguese flyer? (needs YOUR review!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, thanks to my colleague Miguel here at ISCTE, we have a first translation in Portuguese: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:!i!/PT_flyer So please review and improve it if you like. We also need a new paragraph on the OSGeo PT, ideally with the same length. Bom fim-de-semana, Matthias Am 23.10.2013 18:42, schrieb f.dos.san...@free.fr: Funny, today there's a blog speaking of promotional leaflets : http://blog.gravitystorm.co.uk/ I see that the idea of a portuguese flyer is in good shape but didn't know how I can help you, I can't speak german ;-) I also think the best pictures are for Lisboa in the low zoom and Porto with the high zoom. Francisco. - Mail original - From: Matthias Meisser dig...@arcor.de To: talk-pt@openstreetmap.org Date: 23/10/2013 14:56:47 Subject: Re: [Talk-pt] Portuguese flyer? Am 21.10.2013 20:45, schrieb f.dos.san...@free.fr: I've not replied because I don't know ;-) Não tem problema ;) All the mapping party I've heard have been organized by the OSGeo Local Chapter, I don't think they have an OSM flyer (I hope someone could prove me wrong :-) but it's a very good idea to have one. They used to have a wiki and a dedicated page for mapping events (but it's down) : http://wiki.osgeopt.pt/index.php/Vamos_mapear_Portugal Hopefully some OSGeo members read this list and you'll get an answer, if not we can cross-post to the OSGeo mailing list for a larger audience : http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/portugal/ Their list is not OSM related but they are a bigger community so they will have better idea for sponsors and publishing partners. I contacted the OSGeoPT and the president Jorge agreed, that the *chapter will spend the money* and deal with the printing if we finished the localisation. I also contacted Frederik (Geofabrik chef), if he is ok with replacing their promotion at the flyer with an OSGeo 'advertising'. He is very ok with that and offered us to create a *high res map rendering* for the flyer. So now the question is, *which areas* we like to see at the flyer? There is one place at one folding segment and second one what covers 2xsegments. At the german flyer they use the city Münster with low zoom and Berlin for the bigger area. Hmm so use Lisboa and Porto? Matthias - Mail original - From: Matthias Meisser dig...@arcor.de To: talk-pt@openstreetmap.org Date: 21/10/2013 20:38:19 Subject: Re: [Talk-pt] Portuguese flyer? As nobody replyed, I like to ask more specific: Woul it be ok to you, if *I ask some locals* to create portueuse translation of the official flyer? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSM_flyer_2010_thumb.png (I think I will use the more recent version, but sadly its just in DE http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSM_flyer_2011_german.jpg) For *printing* a few thousands that can be spread to local mappers, will there be a organization that likes to sponsor and get's a attribution on the flyer? I would replace the german book with the english edition, ok? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Books#OpenStreetMap:_Using_and_Enhancing_the_Free_Map_of_the_World Should I ask OSMF or do you know any local sponsor or at least a Portuguese online service to order the prints? I will try to create another A5 flyer dedicated to the use of the notes function, that allows locals to easily contribute more details. IMHO this makes sense, as if they see some empty buildings, they might remember about local POIs? Matthias Am 16.09.2013 18:14, schrieb Matthias Meisser: Hi everybody, as I nearly finished tracing Bing aerials the past weeks, I like to start with on-the-ground survey which will be photo and penpaper mapping: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/38.7222/-9.1230layers=N As I'm not looking like a usual Portuguese guy and I can't make me understandable in the language, I would like to have something like a flyer, so people can understand what I'm doing. In Germany there is one [1] and it helped me already, because Germans care a lot about their privacy (and property ;)). So can anybody tell me, if the portuguese community has similar documents to show their mission to the residents? 1 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Flyers_and_posters Greetings from Lisboa, Matthias ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https
Re: [Talk-pt] Portuguese flyer? (needs YOUR review!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 25.10.2013 19:35, schrieb Mauro Santos: The translation looks good. I've spotted a couple typos s/eligações/e ligações/ and s/azona/a zona/. Obrigado! The other thing I've noticed, and I don't know very well how to explain it in english, is that the verbs have been conjugated in a way that it seems the writer knows the reader personally (and are friends). What I mean is, Podes encontrar o web... is similar to Tu podes encontrar o web..., using Tu is not polite if you don't know the other person. Personally I prefer to see Pode encontrar o web I suppose that teenagers don't care about how it's written but someone the age of their parents (or older) might not like it, I'd say that the flyer should try not to give a bad first impression. I guess this was mixed as english just knows 'you' (you boy vs. you sir), so I think Miguel just choose what sounds reasonable to him. A more serious tone would b appreciated IMHO and is used in DE edition, too. Finally, where it says open-source software, does it mean open source or free software[1]? [1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html#open-source Wow, I guess this is getting political ;) I made just the translation an DE also used open source that is IMHO more a buzzword to non-geeks than free software. As the topic of the flyer is free mapping, we IMHO should avoid to get to close into details, but maybe you prefer using a different term for FLOSS? Matthias On 25-10-2013 18:36, Matthias Meisser wrote: Hi, thanks to my colleague Miguel here at ISCTE, we have a first translation in Portuguese: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:!i!/PT_flyer So please review and improve it if you like. We also need a new paragraph on the OSGeo PT, ideally with the same length. Bom fim-de-semana, Matthias Am 23.10.2013 18:42, schrieb f.dos.san...@free.fr: Funny, today there's a blog speaking of promotional leaflets : http://blog.gravitystorm.co.uk/ I see that the idea of a portuguese flyer is in good shape but didn't know how I can help you, I can't speak german ;-) I also think the best pictures are for Lisboa in the low zoom and Porto with the high zoom. Francisco. - Mail original - From: Matthias Meisser dig...@arcor.de To: talk-pt@openstreetmap.org Date: 23/10/2013 14:56:47 Subject: Re: [Talk-pt] Portuguese flyer? Am 21.10.2013 20:45, schrieb f.dos.san...@free.fr: I've not replied because I don't know ;-) Não tem problema ;) All the mapping party I've heard have been organized by the OSGeo Local Chapter, I don't think they have an OSM flyer (I hope someone could prove me wrong :-) but it's a very good idea to have one. They used to have a wiki and a dedicated page for mapping events (but it's down) : http://wiki.osgeopt.pt/index.php/Vamos_mapear_Portugal Hopefully some OSGeo members read this list and you'll get an answer, if not we can cross-post to the OSGeo mailing list for a larger audience : http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/portugal/ Their list is not OSM related but they are a bigger community so they will have better idea for sponsors and publishing partners. I contacted the OSGeoPT and the president Jorge agreed, that the *chapter will spend the money* and deal with the printing if we finished the localisation. I also contacted Frederik (Geofabrik chef), if he is ok with replacing their promotion at the flyer with an OSGeo 'advertising'. He is very ok with that and offered us to create a *high res map rendering* for the flyer. So now the question is, *which areas* we like to see at the flyer? There is one place at one folding segment and second one what covers 2xsegments. At the german flyer they use the city Münster with low zoom and Berlin for the bigger area. Hmm so use Lisboa and Porto? Matthias - Mail original - From: Matthias Meisser dig...@arcor.de To: talk-pt@openstreetmap.org Date: 21/10/2013 20:38:19 Subject: Re: [Talk-pt] Portuguese flyer? As nobody replyed, I like to ask more specific: Woul it be ok to you, if *I ask some locals* to create portueuse translation of the official flyer? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSM_flyer_2010_thumb.png (I think I will use the more recent version, but sadly its just in DE http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSM_flyer_2011_german.jpg) For *printing* a few thousands that can be spread to local mappers, will there be a organization that likes to sponsor and get's a attribution on the flyer? I would replace the german book with the english edition, ok? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Books#OpenStreetMap:_Using_and_Enhancing_the_Free_Map_of_the_World Should I ask OSMF or do you know any local sponsor or at least a Portuguese online service to order the prints? I will try to create another A5 flyer dedicated to the use of the notes function, that allows locals
Re: [Talk-pt] Visiting Portugal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 31.08.2013 15:17, schrieb Alexandre Neto: As architecture is your topic, you might be interested in 3D building modeling? I had the pleasure to assist on the development of the Simple 3D buildings-schema and did a bigger micromapping survey of a district in Rostock: I think you will like to see Victor's work as well. :-P So Victor did already some 3D modelling with OSM? Now I'm really curious :) I tried to find some models with f4 maps, but had no success. Sadly we have no 3D tag related overlay for osmatrix :/ Matthias -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSIlz+AAoJEAF+labaLeyD664IAJZbFhBjmxyfnyN+1wzY1MiT 9BBCt9wdP7hKWn5XGNAWX2Ltd8GIpvL4v2cuftJq+HJuftQwyEUHfJ+RaZoXWVET M7T2jYw7RVT3oA2UU3REDBJiInscDcltlTLjEjKoK3C4GDxPri1ThRtVwLwTDQ73 iTC8TNr2lFBIw6on2CUCoauAp4bsDKGaK+TadTq40P+VtzNPzda0O9q0TOmuWgvk EBtAUyEwcFX9qMnALZGhxc4dU+jS0w28fyjmu0hi8AfxVvRcwLum7LvZzofTWk61 ipK1NIPyloA46GCNPx4F7v2LZ6+3t5EvGAEEN9q2XF3Mdc+tp2k5xmB+appXua4= =YAca -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-pt] Visiting Portugal
Am 29.07.2013 11:41, schrieb Alexandre Neto: Hello Matthias, As far as I know, in Portugal we really have a diferent relation with OSM. For instance, I don't think we have any OSM local groups. Most of our contribuitions are made individualy or by ocasional map parties. Oh thats interesting to know. Here in Germany, the number of local meetings (Stammtische) is also decreasing. Maybe this is caused by the improved coverage or by different reasons. I agree that we could promote somekind of exchange, maybe to learn how you guys do it in germany. Besides that, I think that you can post your questions related to tagging in here. Hmm, I think I will come back to that later, when I'm in Portugal for real and see what the existing features represent. I hope that I can at least improve my very close neighbourhood or the campus. Maybe I can do some micromapping there :) Matthias On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Matthias Meisser dig...@arcor.de mailto:dig...@arcor.de wrote: Olá! (I'm sorry I just can't speak Portuguese language. I hope a english post is also ok) My name is Matthias, but in OSM I'm know as user:!i! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:!i http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:%21i! During September till December, I will visit Portugal to take part on a a internship at the university of Lisbon. So I like to help contributing during this period, and I like to ask, if there is a local meeting or usergroup somewhere, where I can post question? I think most things are different from how we map here in Germany, as road classification, names, special amenities etc. Maybe we can have some kind of exchange, so we get a new point of view, how other nations map and what might be different there in real life :) kind regards from the city of Rostock, Matthias ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [OSM-talk] Packaged OSM Tile Sets by US County or State?
Am 05.11.2012 15:00, schrieb Arnie Shore: I'd like to be able to point US users of our Open Source CAD package at any available packaged OSM tile sets, by county or state. Ideally free of course, but a moderate cost might be acceptable. I've poked around looking for such unsuccessfully. Any recommended sources? Hi Arnie, not sure what sources your CAD supports, but maybe this ones are interesting? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TileMill (don't ask where to get MBTiles...) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maps_on_a_Stick http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap-in-a-Box But maybe your consumers will be more happy with shapefiles: http://download.geofabrik.de or if you offer them an WMS/TMS for testing: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WMS http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tiles bye, Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-us] Night of the Living Maps
Hi, this is Matthias from the german OSM community (aka user:!i!). I was the one who started the first NOTLM party and asked Martjin, if the US would be a good area for another global mapathon.This idea came up, when I noticed how empty the US still is (or let's say how big the country is ;)) even with the TIGER import and all of your hard work. I'm absolutly ok with the idea of improving TIGER and add buildings and all the details you can see on the high res BING imagery. Please keep in mind, that we over in Europe *have no idea*, about what the problems of the TIGER import is in detail. So a detailed short instruction as mission statement would be great, and of course a map/list of places where help is needed would be useful. As I have no idea, about how many people will start contributing this time, should we care about conflicts? (maybe using the HOT team server) How about the date? Just a friday at end of November or after the X-mas troubles in january? bye, Matthias Am 26.10.2012 04:24, schrieb Brian DeRocher: For reference here's the TIGER reviewed and TIGER roads comparison maps Peter demonstrated at SOTM US. http://www.itoworld.com/map/162 http://www.itoworld.com/map/240 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-de] Kreuzungen finden mit Nominatim?
Hi Marian, soweit ich das beurteilen kann, klappt das (noch) nicht http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Development_overview Ich glaub die Leute von frankfurt-gestalten.de hatten mal ein ähnliches Problem, bin mir aber nicht sicher ob/wie die es gelöst hatten. Matthias Am 09.07.2012 12:32, schrieb Marian Steinbach: Hallo! Gibt es eine Möglichkeit, mit Nominatim die Kreuzung zweier Straßen zu finden? Danke Grüße Marian ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Bund stellt Geodaten kostenfrei bereit
Moin, so ist auch mein Kenntnisstand. Das meiste habe schlichtweg die Länder. Hier in MV sind wir gerade mit den Piraten in Kontakt um die Daten hier langfristig auch frei zu bekommen. Vielleicht schaffen wir auch das Thema mal beim netzpolitischen Bier reinzutragen. Schöne Grüße Matthias (user:!i!) Am 05.07.2012 08:17, schrieb Andreas Hubel: Hallo zusammen, Am 02.07.2012 um 11:13 schrieb Andreas Trawoeger: Ich kenne die Situation in Deutschland nicht im Detail, aber ich schätzte das der Großteil der Geodaten von den Bundesländern [...] erhoben worden ist und der Bund diese Daten nur aggregiert, ohne das volle Urheberrecht an ihnen zu besitzen. Ich denke diese Aussage ist korrekt. Am 02.07.2012 um 11:21 schrieb aighes: weiß jemand von euch, wie es mit den Grenzen aussieht? Gehören die dem Bund oder auch den Ländern oder gar Gemeinden? Den Landesvermessungsämter, also den Ländern. In Bayern wurden die z.B. schon vor einigen Monaten unter CC-BY freigegeben: http://vermessung.bayern.de/opendata Allerdings nur generalisiert (1:25000) was wohl heißt das die Auflösung künstlich runtergesetzt wurde - sind nicht mehr ganz so genau wie die Daten eigentlich vorliegen. MfG Andi ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMapWidget
Great idea Sandra, at FF13 there seem to be a little bug, that you can't pan the map, when you try to grab them in the upper area of the map (where the buttons are on the right), as the browser trys to select the buttons. I guess it's a good idea to look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maps as there are some previous attemps to solve the problem for sharing OSM maps with markers/routes. For now I personally use scribblemaps.com to gather crowdsourced location based informations, similar to OSMbugs.org :) bye, Matthias Am 19.06.2012 00:04, schrieb Aleksandra Milanovic: Hey guys, Give me an opinion on my GSoC project: http://sandra-milanovic.github.com/OpenStreetMapWidget/ (it's a work in progress and not all of the functionalities are implemented yet) All the best, Sandra ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Looking to meet OSM users in Mexico
Hi Michael, as far as I know there is currently no well organized team in Mexico http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Local_Contacts http://usergroups.openstreetmap.de Nevertheless you might get single mappers, by using different Channels http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Communication -talk-us mailinglist -the forum http://forum.openstreetmap.org/ -http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mexico Another way is to use tools as ITO OSM Mapper to analyse the contribution by mappers involved in this area. One last idea is to contact the OSM Communication group. good luck, Matthias Am 18.06.2012 20:41, schrieb Michael Corey: Hello: My organization is working on a project that involves mapping in detail the U.S./Mexico border fence system. We plan to use Open Street Map for much of this mapping. I'll be coming down to the border in a few weeks, and I'd love to talk to any OSM enthusiasts or other geo hacker type folks when I'm there. This first trip is focusing on Baja, Sonora, California and part of Arizona and is mostly a proof-of-concept. If you have some time to hang out, please get in touch and I can fill you in with some more details about what we're up to. And if you're elsewhere but still interested, let me know -- we'll be needing plenty of help soon! Thanks, -- Michael Corey News Applications Developer Center for Investigative Reporting 510.809.3178 /2012 Recipient of the MacArthur Award for Creative and Effective Institutions/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-de] Tankstellen-Karte
Weitere Portale wären http://www.tappenbeck.net/osm/maps/deu/index.php?id=1022 http://www.karbukoo.com/de/ Gruß Matthias Am 12.06.2012 10:20, schrieb Martin Vonwald: Hi! Kann mir jemand eine Karte empfehlen, auf der Tankstellen angezeigt werden inklusive Zusatzinfos wie Treibstoffsorten, Autowäsche, gibt es einen Lebensmittelshop, Öffnungszeiten, etc. Ich habe auf die Schnelle nur den POI-Viewer [1] gefunden - dort sehe ich aber außer dem Namen nicht viel. vg, Martin [1] http://www.lenz-online.de/cgi-bin/osmpoi/osmpoi.pl ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Health Care Facilities weltweit abfragen, xapi...
Ich würde etwas anders an die Sache rangehen und mir von der Geofabrik erst mal Datendumps ziehen (D reicht ja für den Anfang). Dann würde ich mir mit Osmosis einen Filter bauen, der Nodes und auch ways (Gebäude!) herausfiltert und in eine neue .OSM XML Datei schreibt. Diese kannst du dann weiterverarbeiten, z.B. in die Standart OSM PostGIS DB einspielen, oder einen Importskript für eure eigenes DB Schema schreiben. Es gibt jedoch dabei ein paar Sachen zu bedenken: 1. Tagging Die Tags doctors, dentist, pharmacy sind sehr alt und etabliert. Tordanik und ich hatten vor ein paar Jahren ein erweitertes Schema vorgeschlagen um auch die Spezialisierungen und angrenzende medizinische Einrichtungen zu erfassen [1]. Die Verbreitung ist wohl noch nicht so gut, was du statistisch mit Taginfo auswerten kannst. Beschäftige dich am besten auch mit den Emergency Tags vom HOT und social_facilitiey Key. 2. Lizensierung Bedenke das CC und auch die neue ODbL Copyleft Lizenzen sind, weshalb es sein kann, das es auch auf euren Datenbestand abfärbt [2]. Hoffe das hilft erstmal bei den nächsten Schritten. Wenn es klemmt, meld dich einfach hier. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Legal_FAQ P.S. Auf http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Research führen wir eine Übersicht über alle EInrichtungen, die an OSM forschen. Es wäre schön, wenn ihr euch dort auch ergänzen würdet, damit wir den Überblick nicht verlieren. Gruß Matthias (user:!i!) Am 06.06.2012 20:17, schrieb Michael Paulmann: Hallo, Ich bin Student der Vermessung/Geoinformatik an der Hochschule für Technik in Stuttgart und Teil einer Gruppe die eine Datenbank mit den „Health Care Facilities“ Weltweit aufbaut, natürlich erstmal mit wenigen Daten wie Name, Adresse, Kontaktinformationen und Koordinaten. Ich habe jetzt schon verschiedene xapi ausprobiert jedoch bekomme ich immer nur Fehlermeldungen wenn ich bei einem großen Bereich suche. Habt ihr eine Möglichkeit an diese Daten zu kommen ohne extra einen OSM-Server aufsetzen zu müssen? Michael Paulmann P.S.: Mein Versuch war nach dem amenity hospital zu suchen was jedoch weltweit nicht funktionierte. Ich wäre auch an den amenity pharmacy und doctors interessiert ich brauche nur einen Weg wie ich an die Daten rankomme. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenMaps App Blocked By OpenStreetMap
Thanks for the update Zsombor! Well for all of you that didn't noticed the problem with our servers, you might check out the following discussions: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Blocked_applications http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=194881 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/!i!/diary/15046 There are some updates on the other apps as well: Locus: current (already done) steps: 1. today I'll release new version 1.3.4 2. direct downloading from openstreemap.org server will be disable. I'll leave only viewing and caching data. This should reduce locus to only some mobile viewer 3. today I finished new vector maps, (update that finally cover whole planet) so I hope that many users will use them 4. I also moved MapQuest server on first place in list of maps, this should also help to reduce using of OSM classic server 5. And finally I donated amount that at least should cover some damage done due to enormous numbers of users plans: 1. I was yesterday playing for whole day with mapnik, openlayers, mod_tile and some other stuff and even when I never did something like this, seems it should work (I have already simple map of Czech republic in Locus from own server ... nice), so I decided that I'll create own tile server that will move completely all trafic from osm classic server to this (only for locus) server. One my friend is more experience with these server stuff so I'll meet him in monday and hope that we should start work on this soon ... http://forum.asamm.cz/viewtopic.php?f=10t=1166p=6874#p6870 The author of NaviComputer wrote me a mail and pointed out, that the had made some modifications time ago: -limited DL speed and 2 threads only -limited areas (so for zoom 17/18 only smal areas) -additional hints, pleasing the users not to cause to much traffic So we might remove the warnings from the corresponding wiki pages, do we? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Blocked_applications bye Matthias (!i!) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling
Am Donnerstag, den 08.09.2011, 15:43 +0100 schrieb Chris Fleming: I have a saved openstreetmap twitter search and keep an eye on it. I think only twice I've actually replied to people looking for help on opensteetmap most of it's people talking about osm or various bots. Similar for me, cause I monitor Twitter for news headlines. The @OpenStreetMap account has over 6000 followers (although a good number are certainly spam) and I would like to see a bit more posting than when there is a blog posting and the occasional retweet. So interesting press coverage or uses of OSM, etc. Think this should be part of a reinitiate the complete news processing of our community (news at twitter, blogs, diaries, wiki, newsletters,...). bye Matthias (user:!i!) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Quality reports of non EU area
Thanks for your work John! I need to take a clother view if I have a bit more time for that. Well I guess what Jaakko says is partly true. Mssive Data (see e.g. the fat imports) doesn't show up how good (here lively) the quality of the data is. thats why I personaly like OSMatrix as you can analyse different quality indicators (buildings, allotments, last Edits,...). My background for asking for non EU quality measurements is, that I try to convince a bigger company on using OSM as GIS data source. Cause their management is stated in the US I beliefe, that they aren't aware on the actually quite good quality here in Europe :/ bye Matthias Am Dienstag, den 23.08.2011, 03:53 -0500 schrieb Jaakko Helleranta.com: Stupid(?) question: Does this merely look at data density in the given areas? My observation from nearly a year in Haiti says that I wouldn't draw any solid link between data quantity/density and quality. It may (or may not) seem that in general where there are active communities then OSM data is also of good quality and density can be seen as a general proxy(?) for map (database) quality but it's also clear that a lot of data can also simply mean a lot of crap. Cheers, -Jaakko -- jaa...@helleranta.com * Skype: jhelleranta * Mobile: +509-37-269154 * http://go.hel.cc/MyProfile On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:29 AM, John Harvey j...@johnharveyphoto.com wrote: I took a look at a bunch of cities around Europe, North America and some of Asia. I convert the OSM data into a compressed vector form that scales pretty linearly with node density, way density and POI metadata. For these cities, I try to fit as much city as I can into less than 20MB. I use Lambert Conic projection to try to reduce the latitude spread effect. Short answer, less data means larger area of city. Paris has the highest density in the world (I fit 16 4km x 4km tiles in 20MB), Boston has the highest density in North America (49 tiles). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Quality reports of non EU area
Hi there, well I'm looking for somekind of research/stats on the quality of our project especially in US or Asian area. I browsed the most of the scientific papers at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Research but that ones, that concern the quality (and it's metrics) are mostly focused on the EU area. So did I missed something and there is already a report covering diff. metrics of other continents? P.S. Yes I know QSMatrix for sure (which is pretty cool), but this doesn't cover non EU, too :( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMatrix ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] wiki - guide for beginners
Am Sonntag, den 07.08.2011, 17:54 +0200 schrieb phobie: There are several wiki page names used for this guide. Which one has the best name and spelling? Starter Tutorial Beginners Guide Beginners guide Beginners' Guide Beginners' guide Beginner's Guide Well to me it makes sense to use only the first two, just some people make typos (or here in Germany we would write it that way). The others can be skipped, cause if you search, you will find the first ones with autocomplete. But hey if you like add all of them, I have no problems with redirects. bye Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Sister Projects
Am 06.07.2011 20:17, schrieb John Smith: On 6 July 2011 22:03, Tobias Knerro...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Why on earth should we give references to proprietary data projects like mapmaker in our wiki? Including it in the list gives us a chance to link to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_map_maker and explain why people should*not* choose GMM instead of OSM. And why would that be, because the new CTs are similar to google and people don't really have to share back, just like google isn't really sharing... Come on this is just a style discussion on wiki pages, nothing political. To me it sounds good to point to other projects and may be to compare there pros/cons. cya Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Sister Projects
Am Dienstag, den 05.07.2011, 19:48 +0200 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Maybe we can also open a discussion about this related projects list. IMHO googlemapmaker - although having a similar approach - is not related to OSM. I'd delete all of the projects there that have a no in the license column, i.e. all copyrighted. IMHO OSM is not related to projects that collect proprietary data. Sure, maybe we find a better topic than 'related' or sister projects. Maybe 'other VGI' or something more strict? bye Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] open bus map - the maintainers?
Am 14.06.2011 05:45, schrieb Robin Paulson: hi, does anyone know who maintains the open bus map? i discovered it earlier - fantastic work, something i'd looked for for a while, but wanted to make a suggestion about rendering the bus routes based on the colour stored in the relation details. any ideas, the website has no contact details anywhere i can see cheers, Hi Robin, it's Melchior Moos, but currently AFAIK he's lacking of time http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/%C3%96pnvkarte Thats the reason why other public transport projects had been started http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_based_Services#Public_Transport bye Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] New Community Updates newsletter
Hi, please find enclosed the next issue of the Community Updates: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-05-30 kind regards Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] New Community Updates newsletter
Hi, please find enclosed the next issue of the Community Updates: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-05-23 kind regards Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-us] Ideas for OSMF US Swag
Am 29.05.2011 15:49, schrieb Mike Dupont:
My idea was to write letters to the editors of all the local
newspapers, in each letter we would tell the about the map and invite
them to look at the local map of thier area
I wrote a script to automate the usage of the press center :
http://capwiz.com/aauw/dbq/media/
here is the code, you can use that to send ca. 5000 letters
http://fmtyewtk.blogspot.com/2011/05/script-to-write-letters-to-editors.html
Sounds like a good idea. But wouldn't it better to make it a bit more
distributed and personal? To my experience the local reporters like
personal stories and somebody as main actor for the whoel story
('somebody out of our middles does this and that').
For that kind of working, we created a german press kit, that reporters
like very much (got some feedback). If you would say that PR works
similar in US, I might ask the folks to translate the press kit to
english, so you can adapt it.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pressemappe
(still not sure if this might get in conflict with a personal press
portal for GB for instance...)
cheers
Matthias
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