Re: [OSM-talk] layer tag issue in mapnik settings?
hello, thanks, yes I think "bridge" describes it better than "building" in this case: http://bit.ly/egFnU8 regards --oscar --- On Mon, 3/14/11, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: From: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] layer tag issue in mapnik settings? To: "Mike N" Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 11:57 AM 2011/3/14 Mike N : > On 3/13/2011 7:09 PM, Richard Mann wrote: >> >> Best advice is to turn it into a pedestrian bridge >> (highway=footway+bridge=yes+layer=1) > > I've used highway=pedestrian+bridge=yes+layer=1 , which also seems to fit > the Wiki definition. IMHO highway=pedestrian is not correct (it is used for streets that are "pedestrianalized"), I'd go for highway=footway as suggested by Richard Mann. Mapnik has chosen not to cover highways by buildings, and there is no way to override this by layers. I am not sure that the T@H approach is better, because the don't display the covered highway, so it remains unclear whether your way is obstructed by the building or not. Have a look at the covered-proposal (currently not rendered). This would be done by putting covered=yes on the way-segment underneath the building. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] layer tag issue in mapnik settings?
hellothis hospital has a corridor which goes over a service highway: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.075906&lon=-2.147836&zoom=18&layers=M the highway has layer=-1 ok in osmarendernot ok in the mapnik layer regards--oscar ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Spain needs OSM love
Hello, you mean counting the tagged nodes and ways? That sounds dangerous, what if somebody splits highways in small potions? in some places, somebody has imprted hundreds of buildings, but that does not increase very much the quality of a map, then you need to consider separately the main tag (name=x) because that means a lot then there are areas with short streets (medieval quarters) and areas with long streets (suburbs) , etc etc etc... sounds very complicated You would need a lot of time to create a function that can replace the honest opinion of someone who knows a bit about OSM and about the area of interest. I dont think it's worth the effort in my case. --oscar --- On Sun, 2/13/11, Steve Bennett wrote: From: Steve Bennett Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Spain needs OSM love To: "Open Street Map mailing list" Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 11:44 PM On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Oscar Orbe wrote: hello list,here is a ranking of the cities/towns in Spain which need the most OSM love. click 4 times on the last column to see them sorted: http://bit.ly/eUkBpX Wow, what a lot of work. What made you decide to go down the subjective assessment path, rather than just counting the number of OSM entities within a given bounding box? Steve -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Spain needs OSM love
hello list,here is a ranking of the cities/towns in Spain which need the most OSM love.click 4 times on the last column to see them sorted: http://bit.ly/eUkBpX now you finally have something to do in your spare time.you can legally use this WMS service: http://www.idee.es/wms/pnoa/pnoa? with the tags: source=PNOAsource:date=2009 I myself will start with Cuenca. thanks--oscar Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Why I don't use JOSM (was Re: Non-map-based OSM editor)
Hello I agree with Frederik i was saying that Steve's message was rubbish As Greta Garbo would say: one of us needs to improve his English will it be me? --Oscar --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Frederik Ramm wrote: From: Frederik Ramm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Why I don't use JOSM (was Re: Non-map-based OSM editor) To: talk@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 9:29 AM Hi, On 01/24/2011 09:23 AM, Oscar Orbe wrote: > #rubbish Come on people. There's enough editors for everyone. There's a ton of reasons, for *every* editor, why someone would use or not use it. Personally I am glad that this is so; I think the needs of different users are much better served by the variety of editors we have than they could ever be if everyone had to use the same editor. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Why I don't use JOSM (was Re: Non-map-based OSM editor)
#rubbish --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Steve Bennett wrote: From: Steve Bennett Subject: [OSM-talk] Why I don't use JOSM (was Re: Non-map-based OSM editor) To: "Anthony" Cc: "Open Street Map mailing list" Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 7:24 AM On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Anthony wrote: > I'm not quite sure why, but I really don't like JOSM. In my case I think it boils down to: 1) Complicated, idiosyncratic user interface. My brain just doesn't have space to learn new interfaces. Everything needs to behave the same. 2) Fragility. I tried fiddling with a plug in once and everything just broke. 3) Poor performance. (On my environment anyway.) 4) General preference for online tools (so I don't need to synchronise environments across different computers) It looks like a fantastically powerful tool, and I wish all those who use it the very best. But I'm probably one of those few people who actually moved from JOSM *to* Potlatch. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] To those who remove dupe nodes
--- On Sun, 1/9/11, Matt Amos wrote: From: Matt Amos Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] To those who remove dupe nodes To: "Nathan Edgars II" Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 5:07 PM On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > Frederik Ramm wrote: >> Your original complaint was about people removing *duplicate* nodes >> though, not people removing fresh, unused nodes. That's another >> situation; if your upload creates duplicate nodes then your upload is >> buggy and should be stopped. >> > Not always - an import of TIGER county lines will create dupes with TIGER > roads, and these should not be joined. in this case Oscar's import consists of landuse areas, which should be joined. otherwise, what's in the gap? ;-) with the admin boundaries and physical features it's more of a matter of opinion; there are good reasons to join them, and good reasons to have them separate. cheers, matt ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk hello, yes some of my polygons are a bit messy, nothing very relevant actually- I'll be fixing that in the next 24/48 hours. regards--oscar ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] xapi downage
aha!that must be the reason why I was getting files with it... --- On Sun, 1/9/11, Nathan Edgars II wrote: From: Nathan Edgars II Subject: [OSM-talk] xapi downage To: "OSM" Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 4:19 PM Does anyone know when the xapi will be back online? It's been down for several days at least. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] To those who remove dupe nodes
hello:thanks for the hint.in any case, I dont think it's a good idea to remove unused nodes which are extremely recent. regards--oscar --- On Sun, 1/9/11, Matt Amos wrote: From: Matt Amos Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] To those who remove dupe nodes To: "Oscar Orbe" Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 1:54 PM On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Oscar Orbe wrote: > > Dear list > I am uploading some landuse polygons and sometimes I get the error that says > something like "that node does not exist". > I think there are people removing unused nodes too fast. > Perhaps those people can change their algorithms so that they only remove > unused nodes whose age is at least 24 hours for example??? so they wont > interrupt uploading processes... hi oscar. are you using diff uploads to create the polygons? if so, it would be a good idea to group the uploaded ways and relations for the polygon along with the nodes it needs. this would mean that such an error wouldn't occur. i seem to remember that this was done for the french corrine import and maybe it would be a good idea to talk to them about good techniques for doing this before going any further? cheers, matt ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] To those who remove dupe nodes
Dear listI am uploading some landuse polygons and sometimes I get the error that says something like "that node does not exist". I think there are people removing unused nodes too fast. Perhaps those people can change their algorithms so that they only remove unused nodes whose age is at least 24 hours for example??? so they wont interrupt uploading processes... thanks--oscar ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data
Andrzej: "there's some ongoing work on CLC06 mixed with GMES Urban Atlas data import for Poland and Spain" I'm preparing an import of forests (3 shapefiles) and olive groves (1 shapefile) for Spain. Where can I see that on-going work? --- On Mon, 1/3/11, andrzej zaborowski wrote: From: andrzej zaborowski Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data To: "Oscar Orbe" Cc: "Emilie Laffray" , talk@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 1:15 PM Hi, On 3 January 2011 13:53, Oscar Orbe wrote: > Hello I have just sent an email asking for clarification, will forward their > response. > Ciprian: "...I have found different statements about the license of CLC data > on the EEA website at some point..." There have been different statements because the license has been changing numerous times. As of February 2010 the seamless CLC2006 shp is available under the normal EEA terms and users in Spain and in Poland have considered it OSM-compatible from that point. (For the record there's some ongoing work on CLC06 mixed with GMES Urban Atlas data import for Poland and Spain) Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data
Thanks, here it is: http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data/clc-2006-vector-data-version --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Lennard wrote: From: Lennard Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data To: talk@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 1:19 PM > Hello, in this > page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Corine_Land_Cover it > says "Until now, the terms of use did not allow commercial use unless the > Agency has expressly granted the right to do so [2]", but if you go to > link [2], it says "Unless otherwise indicated, re-use of content on the > EEA website for commercial or non-commercial purposes is permitted free of > charge, provided that the source is acknowledged." Is our wiki > out-of-date? CLC data can now be used in OSM (not only in France and other > specific areas)? --Oscar We (OSM contributors) already have a blanket permission to use any data not specifically restricted on the EEA website. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/European_Environment_Agency Also see the thread at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2010-June/000584.html The caveat here is that the CLC 2006 dataset is not publicly available through the EEA website. -- Lennard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data
Hello I have just sent an email asking for clarification, will forward their response. Ciprian: "...I have found different statements about the license of CLC data on the EEA website at some point..." Where exactly? --Oscar --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Emilie Laffray wrote: From: Emilie Laffray Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data To: "Oscar Orbe" Cc: "Ciprian Talaba" , talk@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 12:11 PM Until recently, the data was owned by each state. You had to ask each one of them to get the data. In addition, CLC 2000 is pretty much useless which was the only one available for free. 2006 is the one you want to start working with. Emilie Laffray On 3 Jan 2011 11:47, "Oscar Orbe" wrote: > Hello, Ciprian. Is it not strange that each OSM community has to explicitly > ask EEA about it? we're are talking about _one_ database (OSM) and _one_ > dataset (CLC)? The confirmation you received was limited to the Romanian > data? The CLC dataset is not homogeneous in terms of license then? --Oscar > > --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Ciprian Talaba wrote: > > From: Ciprian Talaba > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data > To: "Oscar Orbe" > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 11:32 AM > > Hi Oscar, > I have found different statements about the license of CLC data on the EEA > website at some point so we (Romania's OSM users) took the time to send them > an email asking about using their data in OSM. The response was positive and > was delivered in around 2 weeks. So I recommend to do the same thing if you > want to be sure. > > --Ciprian > > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Oscar Orbe wrote: > > Hello, in this > page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Corine_Land_Cover it says > "Until now, the terms of use did not allow commercial use unless the Agency > has expressly granted the right to do so [2]", but if you go to link [2], it > says "Unless otherwise indicated, re-use of content on the EEA website for > commercial or non-commercial purposes is permitted free of charge, provided > that the source is acknowledged." Is our wiki out-of-date? CLC data can now > be used in OSM (not only in France and other specific areas)? --Oscar > > > > > > > ___ > > talk mailing list > > talk@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > > > > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data
Hello, Ciprian. Is it not strange that each OSM community has to explicitly ask EEA about it? we're are talking about _one_ database (OSM) and _one_ dataset (CLC)? The confirmation you received was limited to the Romanian data? The CLC dataset is not homogeneous in terms of license then? --Oscar --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Ciprian Talaba wrote: From: Ciprian Talaba Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data To: "Oscar Orbe" Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 11:32 AM Hi Oscar, I have found different statements about the license of CLC data on the EEA website at some point so we (Romania's OSM users) took the time to send them an email asking about using their data in OSM. The response was positive and was delivered in around 2 weeks. So I recommend to do the same thing if you want to be sure. --Ciprian On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Oscar Orbe wrote: Hello, in this page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Corine_Land_Cover it says "Until now, the terms of use did not allow commercial use unless the Agency has expressly granted the right to do so [2]", but if you go to link [2], it says "Unless otherwise indicated, re-use of content on the EEA website for commercial or non-commercial purposes is permitted free of charge, provided that the source is acknowledged." Is our wiki out-of-date? CLC data can now be used in OSM (not only in France and other specific areas)? --Oscar ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data
Hello, in this page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Corine_Land_Cover it says "Until now, the terms of use did not allow commercial use unless the Agency has expressly granted the right to do so [2]", but if you go to link [2], it says "Unless otherwise indicated, re-use of content on the EEA website for commercial or non-commercial purposes is permitted free of charge, provided that the source is acknowledged." Is our wiki out-of-date? CLC data can now be used in OSM (not only in France and other specific areas)? --Oscar ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
