Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
On 22 September 2012 15:18, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I feel we should all be pressing to Apple to produce an overview of the sources of the data on their 'mashup'. My son has a copy and it does seem that you can 'easily see the joins' between different sources, but identifying what data IS attributable to OSM seems difficult? And where other data comes from. +1 this mashup of theirs without clear explanation on which data is coming from where is creating some bad publicity for openstreetmap . I hope atleast some volunteers who havse ios6 can check and report their countries/regions are carrying/not carrying OSM data . What about the license ? Does no one bother about it anymore ? Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri http://look-pavi.blogspot.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Didn't find a hint for osm data in it so far. It certainly isn't OSM in US, UK etc. But I've seen a screenshot of iOS Maps in Islamabad that looks very very much like OSM data. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/possibly-OT-Apples-IOS-6-Maps-and-the-response-tp5726581p5726859.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Didn't find a hint for osm data in it so far. It certainly isn't OSM in US, UK etc. But I've seen a screenshot of iOS Maps in Islamabad that looks very very much like OSM data. I feel we should all be pressing to Apple to produce an overview of the sources of the data on their 'mashup'. My son has a copy and it does seem that you can 'easily see the joins' between different sources, but identifying what data IS attributable to OSM seems difficult? And where other data comes from. It's more annoying that they will spend millions on 'defending their property' but are happy to just take other peoples? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
pavithran wrote: The new map replacement from apple in its IOS has drawn a lot of criticism . Just to correct the link ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/sep/20/apple-maps-ios6-station-tower and another read http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/sep/20/apple-google-maps-headache Begs the question - are any of the OSM routing options iPhone friendly? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
Some examples of the curiosities in ios6 maps: http://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/ Greets, Floris On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:39 PM, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: The new map replacement from apple in its IOS has drawn a lot of criticism . quote from http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/sep/20/apple-maps-ios6-station-towe Within minutes of the launch of the iOS6 operating system, which comes preloaded with Apple Maps, users were reporting that London had been relocated to Ontario, Paddington station had vanished, the Sears Tower in Chicago had shrunk, and Helsinki railway station had been turned into a park. /quote Having said that How much is it OSM data? There have been messages saying its the TomTom data but if you look at http://gspa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html there is a line (OSM) OpenStreetMap contributors, http://www.openstreetmap.org/ Pretty confusing and sad to say that many of the comments were against the map app and suggesting that they would hardly accept anything other than google maps . Also note that it was just reported in IRC that 4chan got it in their heads that they could troll apple maps by editing OSM: http://boards.4chan.org/g/res/27736265 The OP and at least one user's edits have been reverted already but as always, keep an eye out for vandalism. Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
On 9/21/2012 3:12 AM, Lester Caine wrote: Begs the question - are any of the OSM routing options iPhone friendly? GPS Nav/2 from Skobbler ($): Can do offline routing OpenTripPlanner for transit on the iPhone - I'm guessing about 2 months yet until a release http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/228865951/transit-app-for-ios-6-and-beyond/posts/311435 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
2012/9/20 pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com: Having said that How much is it OSM data? That's a question I am also interested in. When the first preview of their maps became available it looked very much like OSM data to me in my area. The forests were taken from OSM, no doubt (same shape and coverage only where there is coverage in OSM, I am speaking for central Italy here, and other places might well be created from different sources). On the other hand I tried to find the typo of the florence dome in OSM data (Santa Maria del Fiore, in iOS maps Santa Maria dei Fiori) and couldn't find it (neither in the current geometry, nor in the deleted one): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/43768260/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23298906/history (checked more, but none of them had the name in it) Didn't have a full-history at hand, but maybe someone who does could make a grep? First picture here shows a screenshot of this place in iOS: http://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/ if you look at http://gspa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html there is a line (OSM) OpenStreetMap contributors, http://www.openstreetmap.org/ Does this mean that all of those maps are now under OdbL? (At least, if they use up to date data only available under ODbL?) cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
On 21 September 2012 16:09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean that all of those maps are now under OdbL? (At least, if they use up to date data only available under ODbL?) That raises some interesting questions because ODBL planet was available only recently , Did apple wait till last minute to get them ? Or are they mixing the old planet(CC by SA) with new datasets(ODBL) ? Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri http://look-pavi.blogspot.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:03 AM, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: That raises some interesting questions because ODBL planet was available only recently , Did apple wait till last minute to get them ? Or are they mixing the old planet(CC by SA) with new datasets(ODBL) They'll never say. They're a closed shop. If 4chan wants to troll Apple; stop buying their stuff. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
Question: I don't have iOS6 here. Is the map data the same as shown on http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/ ? (Choose Apple iPhoto on the combobox) On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:03 AM, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: That raises some interesting questions because ODBL planet was available only recently , Did apple wait till last minute to get them ? Or are they mixing the old planet(CC by SA) with new datasets(ODBL) They'll never say. They're a closed shop. If 4chan wants to troll Apple; stop buying their stuff. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
2012/9/21 Bráulio brauliobeze...@gmail.com: Question: I don't have iOS6 here. Is the map data the same as shown on http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/ ? (Choose Apple iPhoto on the combobox) no, it is different. In the meantime I could take a look and there doesn't seem to be OSM data in this map, at least from the copyright notice it seems as if it is mostly Tomtom data. Didn't find a hint for osm data in it so far. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
On Sat, 2012-09-22 at 01:10 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/9/21 Bráulio brauliobeze...@gmail.com: Question: I don't have iOS6 here. Is the map data the same as shown on http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/ ? (Choose Apple iPhoto on the combobox) no, it is different. In the meantime I could take a look and there doesn't seem to be OSM data in this map, at least from the copyright notice it seems as if it is mostly Tomtom data. Didn't find a hint for osm data in it so far. Barmaid had it on her iPhone tonight. It didn't look like OSM to me when I looked at areas I have mapped. Also a oneway error on OSM, reported on mapdust wasn't there. I am planning to fix this when I can survey to verify. Phil (trig222) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
The new map replacement from apple in its IOS has drawn a lot of criticism . quote from http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/sep/20/apple-maps-ios6-station-towe Within minutes of the launch of the iOS6 operating system, which comes preloaded with Apple Maps, users were reporting that London had been relocated to Ontario, Paddington station had vanished, the Sears Tower in Chicago had shrunk, and Helsinki railway station had been turned into a park. /quote Having said that How much is it OSM data? There have been messages saying its the TomTom data but if you look at http://gspa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html there is a line (OSM) OpenStreetMap contributors, http://www.openstreetmap.org/ Pretty confusing and sad to say that many of the comments were against the map app and suggesting that they would hardly accept anything other than google maps . Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri http://look-pavi.blogspot.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:39 PM, pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com wrote: The new map replacement from apple in its IOS has drawn a lot of criticism . quote from http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/sep/20/apple-maps-ios6-station-towe Within minutes of the launch of the iOS6 operating system, which comes preloaded with Apple Maps, users were reporting that London had been relocated to Ontario, Paddington station had vanished, the Sears Tower in Chicago had shrunk, and Helsinki railway station had been turned into a park. /quote Having said that How much is it OSM data? There have been messages saying its the TomTom data but if you look at http://gspa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html there is a line (OSM) OpenStreetMap contributors, http://www.openstreetmap.org/ Pretty confusing and sad to say that many of the comments were against the map app and suggesting that they would hardly accept anything other than google maps . Also note that it was just reported in IRC that 4chan got it in their heads that they could troll apple maps by editing OSM: http://boards.4chan.org/g/res/27736265 The OP and at least one user's edits have been reverted already but as always, keep an eye out for vandalism. Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
