Re: [OSM-talk] Another OSM use without attribution (unusual rendering)

2013-07-23 Thread Simon Hewison
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 01:22:50PM -0400, AJ Ashton wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Simon Hewison si...@zymurgy.org wrote:
 
  Okay, so it's mapbox, any idea how often they update their data? It seems
  the data is over 12 months old. Not the best way to showcase how quick
  it is to update the maps they are rending.
 
 
 We update every 5 minutes or so*, what makes you say this is over 12 months
 old?
 
 *Except for coastlines, admin boundaries, and admin labels.

Then why does way 164845193 (Old Street Magistrates Court (closed)) have
an old label? It is because your renderer is removing superflous words like
(closed) ?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Another OSM use without attribution (unusual rendering)

2013-07-23 Thread AJ Ashton
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Simon Hewison si...@zymurgy.org wrote:

 It is because your renderer is removing superflous words like (closed)
 ?


Yes, that's what's going on. We've made this decision because in most
cases, text inside parentheses is either a translation, which we handle
separately, or not actually part of the name, as in this case.

Our render used to respect the disused tag, but this feature got lost in
some reshuffling. We have updates in the works that will re-add it make
cases like this more clear, but still avoid the extra data tacked onto the
label.

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[OSM-talk] Another OSM use without attribution (unusual rendering)

2013-07-22 Thread Simon Hewison
In today's Metro free tabloid newspaper in London, there's sponsored article
(promoting Expedia), which extolls the virtues of the Shoreditch area of
London. Fair enough, they want a map, so they've taken Openstreetmap data,
tweaked the rendering to abbreviate street names (Old Street becomes Old St),
tweaked the styling, but it looks very much like Mapnik, and an old copy
of Openstreetmap data, based on the building outlines (I know, I mapped some
of the buildings there).

Oh, and they've not attributed Openstreetmap as the map data source.

http://www.zymurgy.org/~simon/metro_osm_no_attribution.jpg
vs
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.52694lon=-0.08141zoom=17layers=M

Print copy is Metro newspaper, page 33, Monday 22 July 2013.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Another OSM use without attribution (unusual rendering)

2013-07-22 Thread sabas88
2013/7/22 Simon Hewison si...@zymurgy.org

 In today's Metro free tabloid newspaper in London, there's sponsored
 article
 (promoting Expedia), which extolls the virtues of the Shoreditch area of
 London. Fair enough, they want a map, so they've taken Openstreetmap data,
 tweaked the rendering to abbreviate street names (Old Street becomes Old
 St),
 tweaked the styling, but it looks very much like Mapnik, and an old copy
 of Openstreetmap data, based on the building outlines (I know, I mapped
 some
 of the buildings there).


 Oh, and they've not attributed Openstreetmap as the map data source.

 http://www.zymurgy.org/~simon/metro_osm_no_attribution.jpg
 vs
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.52694lon=-0.08141zoom=17layers=M


The rendering is Mapbox Streets (no way to link, but some panning and
zooming here http://www.mapbox.com/tour/)


 Print copy is Metro newspaper, page 33, Monday 22 July 2013.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Another OSM use without attribution (unusual rendering)

2013-07-22 Thread Tom Morris
It looks more like Mapbox Streets rendering.

Here's a quick screenshot of Mapbox Streets at zoom level 17 for comparison:

http://cl.ly/image/0H0w2Q1S3b3T

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On 22 July 2013 at 17:05:46, Simon Hewison (si...@zymurgy.org) wrote:

In today's Metro free tabloid newspaper in London, there's sponsored article  
(promoting Expedia), which extolls the virtues of the Shoreditch area of  
London. Fair enough, they want a map, so they've taken Openstreetmap data,  
tweaked the rendering to abbreviate street names (Old Street becomes Old St),  
tweaked the styling, but it looks very much like Mapnik, and an old copy  
of Openstreetmap data, based on the building outlines (I know, I mapped some  
of the buildings there).  

Oh, and they've not attributed Openstreetmap as the map data source.  

http://www.zymurgy.org/~simon/metro_osm_no_attribution.jpg  
vs  
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.52694lon=-0.08141zoom=17layers=M  

Print copy is Metro newspaper, page 33, Monday 22 July 2013.  

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Re: [OSM-talk] Another OSM use without attribution (unusual rendering)

2013-07-22 Thread Simon Hewison
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 06:31:18PM +0200, sabas88 wrote:
 The rendering is Mapbox Streets (no way to link, but some panning and
 zooming here http://www.mapbox.com/tour/)

Okay, so it's mapbox, any idea how often they update their data? It seems
the data is over 12 months old. Not the best way to showcase how quick
it is to update the maps they are rending.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Another OSM use without attribution (unusual rendering)

2013-07-22 Thread AJ Ashton
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Simon Hewison si...@zymurgy.org wrote:

 Okay, so it's mapbox, any idea how often they update their data? It seems
 the data is over 12 months old. Not the best way to showcase how quick
 it is to update the maps they are rending.


We update every 5 minutes or so*, what makes you say this is over 12 months
old?

*Except for coastlines, admin boundaries, and admin labels.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Another OSM use without attribution (unusual rendering)

2013-07-22 Thread Kathleen Danielson
MapBox Streets is updated every few minutes. I've seen it in action :)


On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Simon Hewison si...@zymurgy.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 06:31:18PM +0200, sabas88 wrote:
  The rendering is Mapbox Streets (no way to link, but some panning and
  zooming here http://www.mapbox.com/tour/)

 Okay, so it's mapbox, any idea how often they update their data? It seems
 the data is over 12 months old. Not the best way to showcase how quick
 it is to update the maps they are rending.

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