Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Rob Nickerson]

>Well - in my eyes transparency is not something optional that can be
>added when time permits in case of a working group of the OSMF.
>
>Also keep in mind that you are probably depriving yourselves from a lot of
valuable support this way.

I understand the concern however I feel a balance has to be struck. We are
aiming to provide a "SotM cookbook" but this is stalled since September due
to lack of resource.

Having ran 2013 in the open and published 2015 meeting minutes, my view is
that you gain valuable support by good project management, breaking work
down in to small chunks and providing short summaries of tasks. People are
generally too busy to read reams and reams of meeting notes.  I expect you
often come across this in your day job ("why am I being asked this/why has
someone done that - clearly they didn't read the notes"!!).

I don't get project management right all the time but I'm trying to
improve. Hopefully the plans for 2017 demonstrate an improvement.

If there is a specific thing that you are missing then we could try to
prioritise that. Just ask :-)


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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Christoph Hormann]

On Tuesday 31 January 2017, Rob Nickerson wrote:
>
> Becoming more transparent would require extra admin work, and given
> that our working group members already commit a huge amount of
> volunteer hours to the planning of SotM, this is something that we
> would need help with.

Well - in my eyes transparency is not something optional that can be 
added when time permits in case of a working group of the OSMF.

Also keep in mind that you are probably depriving yourselves from a lot 
of valuable support this way.  I for example would never participate in 
such a process from either the bidding side or the evaluation/decision 
side without at least basic transparency in the decision making 
process.  

And the presence of confidential information somewhere is usually a 
straw man argument in transparency cases.  Confidential data is almost 
never required to make a decision process transparent.

But this is just my personal view of course and i am not in a position 
to impose this on anyone so it is safe to just ignore my opinion here.

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Rob Nickerson]

> Is this process openly documented somewhere?
> Last Sotm WG minutes on
http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes#StateoftheMap_Organizing_Committee
seem to be from 2015.

The process of bidding is described at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2017/Call_for_venues

The SotM working group switched to using GitHub as a way of tracking our
work (we use it for the Issues/Ticket system rather than code) and this is
available to all SotM WG members and all OSMF Board members. We have it set
to private due to the fact that it includes financial information and
personal information (contact details, and info required for the
scholarship programme). Making this available would likely breach data
protection and would expose the contracts/finances of our suppliers.

Having said that, we remain open to people joining the Working Group, am
happy to share info with those organising other OSM events (e.g. regional
SotMs) and are currently investigating how to facilitate knowledge share
across the Local Chapters and Regional Events.

Becoming more transparent would require extra admin work, and given that
our working group members already commit a huge amount of volunteer hours
to the planning of SotM, this is something that we would need help with.

I'm sorry this is not the answer you were hoping for.

Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Christoph Hormann]

On Tuesday 31 January 2017, Rob Nickerson wrote:
>
> I can however give the response from the OSMF SotM Working Group as
> such:
>
> - We received 2 bids this year; one from Japan the other from Italy.
> - We worked with both teams to fully explore the options; at times
> this included an ambitious programme of two events in one year
> (comprising a traditional SotM in Japan and an "unconference" style
> event in Italy. - Ultimately this fell through and as such there is
> no planned European event from the OSMF SotM Working group.
> - As always we are grateful for the bids to host State of the Map
> (OSMF) and we are happy to help interested groups prepare future
> bids.

Is this process openly documented somewhere?  Last Sotm WG minutes on

http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes#StateoftheMap_Organizing_Committee

seem to be from 2015.

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

As noted it's not possible to give a negative response as SotM EU is much
more fluid than the OSMF SotM (there is not a designated group of people to
ask - it just happens when their is appetite).

I can however give the response from the OSMF SotM Working Group as such:

- We received 2 bids this year; one from Japan the other from Italy.
- We worked with both teams to fully explore the options; at times this
included an ambitious programme of two events in one year (comprising a
traditional SotM in Japan and an "unconference" style event in Italy.
- Ultimately this fell through and as such there is no planned European
event from the OSMF SotM Working group.
- As always we are grateful for the bids to host State of the Map (OSMF)
and we are happy to help interested groups prepare future bids.

I hope this clarifies things a bit. I will follow up with a separate emails
on the Japan event and the process for 2018.

Best regards,

*Rob*
p.s. The SotM Working Group is available on t...@stateofthemap.org should
similar questions arise. We do not actively monitor this "talk" mailing
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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Stefano]

2017-01-31 14:25 GMT+01:00 Richard Fairhurst :

> Martijn van Exel wrote:
> > Here I thought I was asking a simple question.
>
> On an OSM mailing list? You must be new round here.
>
> (More seriously, there were rumours of an event in Italy, but I've not
> heard
> anything concrete.)
>

Yep I also heard this rumor but somehow it was automagically changed to
Japan.
I believe it was called similarly to the subject of this thread without the
continent name.


> cheers
> Richard
>

Ciao,
Stefano


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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Martijn van Exel]

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
> 
> (More seriously, there were rumours of an event in Italy, but I've not heard
> anything concrete.)
> 

Thank you, Richard! 

Martijn van Exel

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Richard Fairhurst]

Martijn van Exel wrote:
> Here I thought I was asking a simple question.

On an OSM mailing list? You must be new round here.

(More seriously, there were rumours of an event in Italy, but I've not heard
anything concrete.)

cheers
Richard



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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Tom Hughes]

On 31/01/17 12:08, Martijn van Exel wrote:


Here I thought I was asking a simple question. Anyone who actually knows
if there are plans for a followup for http://stateofthemap.eu/ ?


You're asking a simple question of an undefined group of people.

I would suggest that the lack of an answer is equivalent to the answer 
being negative - any one person could answer positively but nobody can 
answer negatively without knows the state of mind of every other person.


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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Martijn van Exel]

Here I thought I was asking a simple question. Anyone who actually knows if 
there are plans for a followup for http://stateofthemap.eu/ 
 ?

Martijn van Exel

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Tomek Jablonski  wrote:
> 
> W dniu 19.01.2017 o 12:55, Oleksiy Muzalyev pisze:
>> On 19.01.17 10:58, Christoph Hormann wrote:
>>> ...better to see it just as SOTM Europe,...
>>> 
>> And why not Eurasia? In fact the continent, the continental landmass,
>> is Eurasia, - 90 countries, population 5 billion.
> As a rule SOTM Earth, SOTM Solar System or SOTM Milky Way  all could be
> held in England
> 
> :-)
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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Tomek Jablonski]

W dniu 19.01.2017 o 12:55, Oleksiy Muzalyev pisze:
> On 19.01.17 10:58, Christoph Hormann wrote:
>> ...better to see it just as SOTM Europe,...
>>
> And why not Eurasia? In fact the continent, the continental landmass,
> is Eurasia, - 90 countries, population 5 billion.
As a rule SOTM Earth, SOTM Solar System or SOTM Milky Way  all could be
held in England

:-)

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Jeff McKenna]

Hi Christoph,

For the FOSS4G event in Europe we face the same issue, so it is 
specifically referred to as "FOSS4G Europe" to avoid any political 
assumptions.


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On 2017-01-19 5:58 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote:


The name 'SOTM EU' is probably too often read with a political
connotation - better to see it just as SOTM Europe, in principle this
could take place outside the EU as well - Switzerland, Norway,
Russia, ...





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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Nick Whitelegg]

Yeah, I know that UK citizens would not be shut out of it, our community is way 
too broad-minded for that... but couldn't resist a bit of satire directed at 
our own government. :-)


From: Christoph Hormann <chris_horm...@gmx.de>
Sent: 19 January 2017 09:58:58
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU


The name 'SOTM EU' is probably too often read with a political
connotation - better to see it just as SOTM Europe, in principle this
could take place outside the EU as well - Switzerland, Norway,
Russia, ...

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Oleksiy Muzalyev]

On 19.01.17 10:58, Christoph Hormann wrote:

...better to see it just as SOTM Europe,...

And why not Eurasia? In fact the continent, the continental landmass, is 
Eurasia, - 90 countries, population 5 billion.




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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Dave F]

No it's not. Please don't insult OSM's contributors.

DaveF

On 19/01/2017 09:58, Christoph Hormann wrote:

The name 'SOTM EU' is probably too often read with a political
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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 01/19/2017 10:58 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> The name 'SOTM EU' is probably too often read with a political 
> connotation - better to see it just as SOTM Europe, in principle this 
> could take place outside the EU as well - Switzerland, Norway, 
> Russia, ...

... or England 2019 ;)

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Christoph Hormann]

The name 'SOTM EU' is probably too often read with a political 
connotation - better to see it just as SOTM Europe, in principle this 
could take place outside the EU as well - Switzerland, Norway, 
Russia, ...

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Nick Whitelegg]

There certainly should be now... else thanks to our Dear Leader May, us in the 
UK will be shut out of it in a couple of years!


[?]


(Sorry for the politics!)


From: Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org>
Sent: 18 January 2017 23:49:26
To: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list
Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

Hi all,

I am curious - are there plans for a SOTM EU this year?

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[OSM-talk] SOTM EU

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi all, 

I am curious — are there plans for a SOTM EU this year?

Martijn
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[OSM-talk] SotM EU plans?

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi all,

Anyone aware of plans for a SotM EU for this summer?

Martijn van Exel
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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM EU plans?

[Stefan Keller]

People say there's mainly State of the Map Scotland 2015
Unconference (SOTMS), Fri. 2nd and Sat. 3rd October 2015, held at
Edinburgh University in Europe this year.

Yours, Stefan

2015-04-03 23:27 GMT+02:00 Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org:
 Hi all,

 Anyone aware of plans for a SotM EU for this summer?

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU videos

[Дмитрий Киселев]

Hi, great job.

Is it possible to edit subtitles?
Maybe someone can share google generated subtitles on wiki for further
editing, and load them back after they will be done?


2014-06-16 23:21 GMT+06:00 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com:

 Wonderful!  Thank you. Nice to see the videos.

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU videos

[Michael Reichert]

Hi,

Am 17.06.2014 15:13, schrieb Дмитрий Киселев:
 Is it possible to edit subtitles?
 Maybe someone can share google generated subtitles on wiki for further
 editing, and load them back after they will be done?

Does Google Terms of Use even allow to use the subtitles in OSM Wiki?
Please remember that all content in OSM Wiki is licensed CC-BY-SA 2.0!

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU videos

[Peter Körner]

Hi

Am 15.06.2014 00:29, schrieb Frederik Ramm:

all videos from the first and the first half from the second day at
SOTM-EU are already available online thanks to our fantastic video team,
at youtube.com/sotmeu.
Everything is published now. For high-quality versions, go to 
http://www.sotm-eu.org/en/program and find the links to the video-files 
the talk-details.




It currently looks like the workshops on Sunday will be recorded and
broadcast too.

done and published, too.

Have Fun!
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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU videos

[Richard Weait]

Wonderful!  Thank you. Nice to see the videos.

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[OSM-talk] SOTM-EU videos

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

   all videos from the first and the first half from the second day at
SOTM-EU are already available online thanks to our fantastic video team,
at youtube.com/sotmeu.

It currently looks like the workshops on Sunday will be recorded and
broadcast too.

Bye
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[OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2014 visitors by car from outside of Germany: environment stickers

[steggink]

Hi,

For those who are coming by car to SOTM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, and  
especially for those who do not come from Germany, please be aware  
that in many cities you need an environmental sticker. See [1] for  
more information, and see [2] for a basic map. It also includes the  
conference area.


Nowadays, you need a green sticker for Karlsruhe, so if you currently  
have a yellow or even a red one, you're out of luck.


My experience is that at a TüV-office it is no problem to get a  
sticker for a foreign car. It took only 15 to 30 minutes or so. If you  
apply for a sticker in your own country, it might take a little  
longer, so your best bet is to look for a TüV-office in Germany.


Regards,

Frank


[1]  
http://www.german-way.com/travel-and-tourism/driving-in-europe/driving/driving-in-germany-green-zones/

[2] http://www.umwelt-plakette.de/umweltzone%20karlsruhe.php




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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2014 visitors by car from outside of Germany: environment stickers

[Peter Barth]

stegg...@steggink.org schrieb:
 [...] so your best bet is to look for a TüV-office in Germany.

I guess these ones: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/3I0

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2014 visitors by car from outside of Germany: environment stickers

[Maarten Deen]

stegg...@steggink.org wrote:
 Hi,

 For those who are coming by car to SOTM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, and
 especially for those who do not come from Germany, please be aware
 that in many cities you need an environmental sticker. See [1] for
 more information, and see [2] for a basic map. It also includes the
 conference area.

Or mapped as a relation in OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/61348

Is there no layer yet for the environmentzones?

Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2014 visitors by car from outside of Germany: environment stickers

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 06/11/2014 11:37 AM, stegg...@steggink.org wrote:
 For those who are coming by car to SOTM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, and
 especially for those who do not come from Germany, please be aware that
 in many cities you need an environmental sticker. See [1] for more
 information, and see [2] for a basic map. It also includes the
 conference area.

True, but a better map is of course

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/61348

If you didn't have a sticker and wanted to be 100% legal then you could
park just outside the zone and walk five minutes to the conference location.

Having said that, there's quite a number of cars on the roads here
without a green sticker and nobody seems to give a damn. Might be
different for foreign cars though.

 My experience is that at a TüV-office it is no problem to get a sticker
 for a foreign car.

Provided the car meets the environmental standards, which is generally a
non-issue for petrol cars but if you have a diesel that's older than
about 10 years or so, you might not be so lucky. My car required an EUR
2000 investment before I could sign up for a green sticker ;)

Bye
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[OSM-talk] SotM-EU Karlsruhe Schedule is up

[Richard Weait]

The schedule for SotM-Eu is up and looks wonderful.

You have to go to this event!

http://sotm-eu.org/en/program

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU - Submit your talk

[Christoph Hormann]

A quick reminder - today is the last day you can submit a talk for 
SOTM-EU 2014.  We have already received a lot of very interesting 
submissions that are going to make for an attractive program.  If you 
are contemplating to submit something today is your last chance.

Once again the links:

Call for presentations: https://sotm-eu.org/en/pages/cfp
Talk submission: https://www.sotm-eu.org/en/presentations/new
Visitor registration: https://www.sotm-eu.org/en/pages/attendees

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[Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2014 visitor registration now open

[Simone Cortesi]

Sono aperte le registrazioni per SOTM-EU,
si terrà a metà giugno a Karlsruhe (DE)


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Date: Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:47 PM
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Hi,

   you can now register for the SOTM-EU 2014 in June in Karsruhe, at
http://www.sotm-eu.org/. Early Bird tickets are EUR 55. Also, a number
of rooms have been reserved in nearby hotels and can be booked from now
on; a list of hotels is also up on the web site.

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[OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2014 visitor registration now open

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

   you can now register for the SOTM-EU 2014 in June in Karsruhe, at
http://www.sotm-eu.org/. Early Bird tickets are EUR 55. Also, a number
of rooms have been reserved in nearby hotels and can be booked from now
on; a list of hotels is also up on the web site.

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[Talk-ca] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2014 visitor registration now open

[Richard Weait]

If you have been considering attending an OpenStreetMap conference,
and you can't get to State of the Map in Argentina this November,
consider SotM-EU in Germany, in June.

Previous SotM-EU were wonderful. Well worth the trip.


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Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2014 visitor registration now open
To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org


Hi,

   you can now register for the SOTM-EU 2014 in June in Karsruhe, at
http://www.sotm-eu.org/. Early Bird tickets are EUR 55. Also, a number
of rooms have been reserved in nearby hotels and can be booked from now
on; a list of hotels is also up on the web site.

Bye
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[Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2014 visitor registration now open

[Richard Weait]

If you have been considering attending an OpenStreetMap conference,
and you can't get to State of the Map in Argentina this November,
consider SotM-EU in Germany, in June.

Previous SotM-EU were wonderful. Well worth the trip.


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To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org


Hi,

   you can now register for the SOTM-EU 2014 in June in Karsruhe, at
http://www.sotm-eu.org/. Early Bird tickets are EUR 55. Also, a number
of rooms have been reserved in nearby hotels and can be booked from now
on; a list of hotels is also up on the web site.

Bye
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[OSM-talk] SOTM-EU talk submission extended

[Christoph Hormann]

Hello everyone,

the Call for Presentations for the SOTM EU conference taking place in 
Karlsruhe in June is extended until March 17.

We have already received a lot of interesting talks and would like to 
give everyone who is preparing a submission a bit more time.  Also if 
you have not yet planned to submit something or maybe have missed the 
previous announcements now is your chance.

We specifically want to invite OSM contributors from all over Europe 
(and beyond) to participate and submit their topics.  Talks can be 
submitted on the conference website:

http://sotm-eu.org/en/presentations/new

where you can also find further information on the event.  

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[OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 - Call for Presentations

[Christoph Hormann]

Hello everyone,

i am pleased to announce the Call for Presentations for the SOTM-EU 2014 
in June next year.  Please communicate this to anyone who might might 
be interested in presenting something at the conference.  The full text 
and links can also be found at the conference website 
(http://sotm-eu.org/en/pages/cfp)


Call for Presentations

Now as the cold time of the year is approaching many of you are spending 
the long and dark evenings working on some OpenStreetMap related 
projects like some tool, some mapping project or some creative use of 
the OpenStreetMap data. Maybe you think it would be nice to share your 
work with a larger European community next summer? Then we invite you 
to submit a presentation to the State of the Map Europe (SOTM-EU) 
conference in Karlsruhe, Germany in June next year.
Where and when

The SOTM-EU 2014 will take place in Karlsruhe from June 13-15, 2014. The 
conference will be hosted at Hochschule Karlsruhe. On Friday and 
Saturday there will be talks, and Sunday will be a hack day for 
practical work and discussion.
Your presentation

We would like SOTM-EU to be a platform for OpenStreetMap communities 
from across Europe, as well as for geodata professionals, cartographers 
and researchers, for sharing experiences, stories and knowledge around 
the OpenStreetMap project. In case

* you are developing a tool related to OpenStreetMap for mapping, data 
processing, visualization or other applications
* you have some mapping project, ideas on tagging or an innovative 
mapping technique
* you are using OpenStreetMap data in a business project
* you are doing research based on OpenStreetMap data
* you are working on something else related to OpenStreetMap or that 
will be of interest for the community

we invite you to submit a presentation proposal to the SOTM-EU programme 
committee. Are you involved with a local project anywhere in Europe? 
SOTM-EU is a great opportunity to present it to a Europe-wide audience. 
Regular talks will be 20 minutes long with five minutes for discussion. 
In addition we will offer the opportunity for shorter five minute 
lightning talks. You can submit both types of presentation in advance 
on the website. However, for the lightning talks there will also be the 
possibility of spontaneous registration at the conference. The 
conference language is English.

Your submissions will be reviewed by a programme committee consisting of 
OpenStreetMap community members from various parts of Europe as well 
from the Hochschule Karlsruhe.
Talk submission

Talks can be submitted on the SOTM-EU web site 
(http://sotm-eu.org/en/presentations/new) where you will also find more 
information and updates on the conference. You should submit by 
February 28.

We're looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe in June!

On behalf of the SOTM-EU 2014 program committee,

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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Simone Cortesi]

On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Francesca Valentina
coretodes...@gmail.com wrote:
 Napo eh magari!
 Se mi invitano ne sarei onorata

Francesca, non è su invito. Fra qualche settimana pubblicheremo la
call for papers. Quello che è avvenuto in Sardegna è così importante
che non vedo come possa non essere selezionato dal comitato.

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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Francesca Valentina]

Allora I'm ready! Grazie per avermi informato :)
Il giorno 08/dic/2013 11:20, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha
scritto:

 On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Francesca Valentina
 coretodes...@gmail.com wrote:
  Napo eh magari!
  Se mi invitano ne sarei onorata

 Francesca, non è su invito. Fra qualche settimana pubblicheremo la
 call for papers. Quello che è avvenuto in Sardegna è così importante
 che non vedo come possa non essere selezionato dal comitato.

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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Maurizio Napolitano]

Il 08/dic/2013 11:25 Francesca Valentina coretodes...@gmail.com ha
scritto:

 Allora I'm ready! Grazie per avermi informato :)

Ottimo
Appena esce la call sottometti

In generale sarebbe bello ci fossero diversi interventi da parte dell'Italia
Siamo sempre così pochi a questi eventi :(
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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Francesca Valentina]

Faró del mio meglio ragazzi :)
Il giorno 08/dic/2013 11:40, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha
scritto:


 Il 08/dic/2013 11:25 Francesca Valentina coretodes...@gmail.com ha
 scritto:
 
  Allora I'm ready! Grazie per avermi informato :)

 Ottimo
 Appena esce la call sottometti

 In generale sarebbe bello ci fossero diversi interventi da parte
 dell'Italia
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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Gregory]

Thank you very much, Danke schön!

Just this week I've been disheartened that my efforts to learn German had
diminished. A fresh reason for me to get back onto memrise.com!
I shall also forward to talk-GB if it hasn't been done yet.

Greg.


On 5 December 2013 14:33, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:

 Hi,

today I have the pleasure to announce that we'll be holding SotM-EU
 2014 in Karlsruhe, on 13-15 June. We've set up the web page at
 www.sotm-eu.org and we'll be posting news there and on @sotmeu on Twitter.

 We'll be trying to emulate the success of the 2011 Vienna conference,
 bringing together everyone who does anything interesting in  with
 OpenStreetMap in Europe.

 The call for papers will be out soon, with registration to open early
 2014. We already have a good international programme committee preparing
 that but if you'd like to join the programme committee or otherwise help
 organising the conference (or aspects of it), don't be shy and write to
 i...@sotm-eu.org. Same if you have any ideas that you'd like the
 organisers to consider.

 We'll be distributing this announcement to the dev and talk lists
 as well as to talk-fr and talk-de. If you are on one of the other
 regional European lists, we would be grateful if you could forward
 the announcement.

 I'm looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe next year!

 Bye
 Frederik

 PS: we = the local Karlsruhe team  everyone involved

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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Maurizio Napolitano]

Tu Francesca racconterai di SardSOS, giusto?  :)

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Francesca Valentina
coretodes...@gmail.com wrote:
 YO!


 2013/12/5 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com

 è con grande piacere che vi annuncio State of the Map Europe.

 che avrà luogo nella splendida Karlsruhe dal 13 al 15 giugno 2014.

 a breve uscirà la call for papers

 -Simone.


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
 Date: Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM
 Subject: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany
 To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org,
 d...@openstreetmap.org d...@openstreetmap.org


 Hi,

today I have the pleasure to announce that we'll be holding SotM-EU
 2014 in Karlsruhe, on 13-15 June. We've set up the web page at
 www.sotm-eu.org and we'll be posting news there and on @sotmeu on Twitter.

 We'll be trying to emulate the success of the 2011 Vienna conference,
 bringing together everyone who does anything interesting in  with
 OpenStreetMap in Europe.

 The call for papers will be out soon, with registration to open early
 2014. We already have a good international programme committee preparing
 that but if you'd like to join the programme committee or otherwise help
 organising the conference (or aspects of it), don't be shy and write to
 i...@sotm-eu.org. Same if you have any ideas that you'd like the
 organisers to consider.

 We'll be distributing this announcement to the dev and talk lists
 as well as to talk-fr and talk-de. If you are on one of the other
 regional European lists, we would be grateful if you could forward
 the announcement.

 I'm looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe next year!

 Bye
 Frederik

 PS: we = the local Karlsruhe team  everyone involved

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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Francesca Valentina]

Napo eh magari!
Se mi invitano ne sarei onorata

F


2013/12/6 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com

 Tu Francesca racconterai di SardSOS, giusto?  :)

 On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Francesca Valentina
 coretodes...@gmail.com wrote:
  YO!
 
 
  2013/12/5 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com
 
  è con grande piacere che vi annuncio State of the Map Europe.
 
  che avrà luogo nella splendida Karlsruhe dal 13 al 15 giugno 2014.
 
  a breve uscirà la call for papers
 
  -Simone.
 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
  Date: Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM
  Subject: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany
  To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org,
  d...@openstreetmap.org d...@openstreetmap.org
 
 
  Hi,
 
 today I have the pleasure to announce that we'll be holding SotM-EU
  2014 in Karlsruhe, on 13-15 June. We've set up the web page at
  www.sotm-eu.org and we'll be posting news there and on @sotmeu on
 Twitter.
 
  We'll be trying to emulate the success of the 2011 Vienna conference,
  bringing together everyone who does anything interesting in  with
  OpenStreetMap in Europe.
 
  The call for papers will be out soon, with registration to open early
  2014. We already have a good international programme committee preparing
  that but if you'd like to join the programme committee or otherwise help
  organising the conference (or aspects of it), don't be shy and write to
  i...@sotm-eu.org. Same if you have any ideas that you'd like the
  organisers to consider.
 
  We'll be distributing this announcement to the dev and talk lists
  as well as to talk-fr and talk-de. If you are on one of the other
  regional European lists, we would be grateful if you could forward
  the announcement.
 
  I'm looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe next year!
 
  Bye
  Frederik
 
  PS: we = the local Karlsruhe team  everyone involved
 
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[Talk-dk] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Michael Andersen]

Det her lyder som noget jeg skal med til :)

--  Videresendt brev  --

Emne: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany
Dato: Torsdag den 5. december 2013, 15:33:10
Fra: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
Til: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org, d...@openstreetmap.org 
d...@openstreetmap.org

Hi,

   today I have the pleasure to announce that we'll be holding SotM-EU
2014 in Karlsruhe, on 13-15 June. We've set up the web page at
www.sotm-eu.org and we'll be posting news there and on @sotmeu on Twitter.

We'll be trying to emulate the success of the 2011 Vienna conference,
bringing together everyone who does anything interesting in  with
OpenStreetMap in Europe.

The call for papers will be out soon, with registration to open early
2014. We already have a good international programme committee preparing
that but if you'd like to join the programme committee or otherwise help
organising the conference (or aspects of it), don't be shy and write to
i...@sotm-eu.org. Same if you have any ideas that you'd like the
organisers to consider.

We'll be distributing this announcement to the dev and talk lists
as well as to talk-fr and talk-de. If you are on one of the other
regional European lists, we would be grateful if you could forward
the announcement.

I'm looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe next year!

Bye
Frederik

PS: we = the local Karlsruhe team  everyone involved

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[Talk-GB] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Gregory]

Hello all,
See the message below regarding SotM-EU in June.
http://www.sotm-eu.org/

From past experience you can get cheap flights to Stuttgart, although I
might get the train again if I have time (the journey is a holiday in
itself).

Greg.

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From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
Date: 5 December 2013 14:33
Subject: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany
To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org, d...@openstreetmap.org 
d...@openstreetmap.org


Hi,

   today I have the pleasure to announce that we'll be holding SotM-EU
2014 in Karlsruhe, on 13-15 June. We've set up the web page at
www.sotm-eu.org and we'll be posting news there and on @sotmeu on Twitter.

We'll be trying to emulate the success of the 2011 Vienna conference,
bringing together everyone who does anything interesting in  with
OpenStreetMap in Europe.

The call for papers will be out soon, with registration to open early
2014. We already have a good international programme committee preparing
that but if you'd like to join the programme committee or otherwise help
organising the conference (or aspects of it), don't be shy and write to
i...@sotm-eu.org. Same if you have any ideas that you'd like the
organisers to consider.

We'll be distributing this announcement to the dev and talk lists
as well as to talk-fr and talk-de. If you are on one of the other
regional European lists, we would be grateful if you could forward
the announcement.

I'm looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe next year!

Bye
Frederik

PS: we = the local Karlsruhe team  everyone involved

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[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Ben Abelshausen]

FYI: SOTM-EU!

Not that far for most of us... :-)
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Date: Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany
To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org, d...@openstreetmap.org 
d...@openstreetmap.org


Hi,

   today I have the pleasure to announce that we'll be holding SotM-EU
2014 in Karlsruhe, on 13-15 June. We've set up the web page at
www.sotm-eu.org and we'll be posting news there and on @sotmeu on Twitter.

We'll be trying to emulate the success of the 2011 Vienna conference,
bringing together everyone who does anything interesting in  with
OpenStreetMap in Europe.

The call for papers will be out soon, with registration to open early
2014. We already have a good international programme committee preparing
that but if you'd like to join the programme committee or otherwise help
organising the conference (or aspects of it), don't be shy and write to
i...@sotm-eu.org. Same if you have any ideas that you'd like the
organisers to consider.

We'll be distributing this announcement to the dev and talk lists
as well as to talk-fr and talk-de. If you are on one of the other
regional European lists, we would be grateful if you could forward
the announcement.

I'm looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe next year!

Bye
Frederik

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[OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

   today I have the pleasure to announce that we'll be holding SotM-EU
2014 in Karlsruhe, on 13-15 June. We've set up the web page at
www.sotm-eu.org and we'll be posting news there and on @sotmeu on Twitter.

We'll be trying to emulate the success of the 2011 Vienna conference,
bringing together everyone who does anything interesting in  with
OpenStreetMap in Europe.

The call for papers will be out soon, with registration to open early
2014. We already have a good international programme committee preparing
that but if you'd like to join the programme committee or otherwise help
organising the conference (or aspects of it), don't be shy and write to
i...@sotm-eu.org. Same if you have any ideas that you'd like the
organisers to consider.

We'll be distributing this announcement to the dev and talk lists
as well as to talk-fr and talk-de. If you are on one of the other
regional European lists, we would be grateful if you could forward
the announcement.

I'm looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe next year!

Bye
Frederik

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[Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Simone Cortesi]

è con grande piacere che vi annuncio State of the Map Europe.

che avrà luogo nella splendida Karlsruhe dal 13 al 15 giugno 2014.

a breve uscirà la call for papers

-Simone.


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Date: Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany
To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org,
d...@openstreetmap.org d...@openstreetmap.org


Hi,

   today I have the pleasure to announce that we'll be holding SotM-EU
2014 in Karlsruhe, on 13-15 June. We've set up the web page at
www.sotm-eu.org and we'll be posting news there and on @sotmeu on Twitter.

We'll be trying to emulate the success of the 2011 Vienna conference,
bringing together everyone who does anything interesting in  with
OpenStreetMap in Europe.

The call for papers will be out soon, with registration to open early
2014. We already have a good international programme committee preparing
that but if you'd like to join the programme committee or otherwise help
organising the conference (or aspects of it), don't be shy and write to
i...@sotm-eu.org. Same if you have any ideas that you'd like the
organisers to consider.

We'll be distributing this announcement to the dev and talk lists
as well as to talk-fr and talk-de. If you are on one of the other
regional European lists, we would be grateful if you could forward
the announcement.

I'm looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe next year!

Bye
Frederik

PS: we = the local Karlsruhe team  everyone involved

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Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Francesca Valentina]

YO!


2013/12/5 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com

 è con grande piacere che vi annuncio State of the Map Europe.

 che avrà luogo nella splendida Karlsruhe dal 13 al 15 giugno 2014.

 a breve uscirà la call for papers

 -Simone.


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
 Date: Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM
 Subject: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany
 To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org,
 d...@openstreetmap.org d...@openstreetmap.org


 Hi,

today I have the pleasure to announce that we'll be holding SotM-EU
 2014 in Karlsruhe, on 13-15 June. We've set up the web page at
 www.sotm-eu.org and we'll be posting news there and on @sotmeu on Twitter.

 We'll be trying to emulate the success of the 2011 Vienna conference,
 bringing together everyone who does anything interesting in  with
 OpenStreetMap in Europe.

 The call for papers will be out soon, with registration to open early
 2014. We already have a good international programme committee preparing
 that but if you'd like to join the programme committee or otherwise help
 organising the conference (or aspects of it), don't be shy and write to
 i...@sotm-eu.org. Same if you have any ideas that you'd like the
 organisers to consider.

 We'll be distributing this announcement to the dev and talk lists
 as well as to talk-fr and talk-de. If you are on one of the other
 regional European lists, we would be grateful if you could forward
 the announcement.

 I'm looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe next year!

 Bye
 Frederik

 PS: we = the local Karlsruhe team  everyone involved

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[Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] SotM-EU 2014 in Karlsruhe, Germany

[Richard Weait]

Dear All,

Make your plans to attend SotM-EU, in Karlsruhe, Germany, in June 2014.


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To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org,
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Hi,

   today I have the pleasure to announce that we'll be holding SotM-EU
2014 in Karlsruhe, on 13-15 June. We've set up the web page at
www.sotm-eu.org and we'll be posting news there and on @sotmeu on Twitter.

We'll be trying to emulate the success of the 2011 Vienna conference,
bringing together everyone who does anything interesting in  with
OpenStreetMap in Europe.

The call for papers will be out soon, with registration to open early
2014. We already have a good international programme committee preparing
that but if you'd like to join the programme committee or otherwise help
organising the conference (or aspects of it), don't be shy and write to
i...@sotm-eu.org. Same if you have any ideas that you'd like the
organisers to consider.

We'll be distributing this announcement to the dev and talk lists
as well as to talk-fr and talk-de. If you are on one of the other
regional European lists, we would be grateful if you could forward
the announcement.

I'm looking forward to seeing you in Karlsruhe next year!

Bye
Frederik

PS: we = the local Karlsruhe team  everyone involved

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[OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2014

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

   tonight at the Karlsruhe pub meet we discussed a potential SOTM-EU
2014. (Nothing's public about SOTM 2014 yet but it is unlikely to be in
Europe again.)

There was some enthusiasm about doing it in Karslruhe in Germany. We
have a large local team and considerable conference experience through
past Linux conferences, and there's enough tech companies around to go
looking for sponsors.

Is anyone planning anything similar, or any smaller conferences in
Europe that might clash with an Europe-wide event in Karlsruhe?

Nobody has made any plans about dates yet but it would probably rather
be before the summer than after, and if we went ahead with the plan we'd
of course want to avoid any schedule trouble.

Bye
Frederik

(Just to make this clear, I am writing this solely in my capacity as a
Karlsruhe pub meet regular; it has nothing to do with OSMF.)

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[OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2012 ???

[Michael Kugelmann]

[Deutsch unterhalb]
Hello,

after a great SOTM-EU in Vienna in 2011 and the decission to host the 
SOTM 2012 in Tokio:

are there any ideas/plans for a SOTM-EU 2012?

I really hope that the SOTM in Tokio has a good sucess and lots of 
participants. But for some people from the big mapper community in 
Europe Japan might be too far (and Tokio is not cheap).



Best regards,
Michael.

PS: sorry for crossposting, but I hope to start a discussion within the 
European community about this issue. And if we want to do a conference 
we might need to start soon with the preparation.


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[English above]
Hallo,

nach der großartigen SOTM-EU in Wien in 2011 und der Entscheidung zur 
Durchführung der SOTM 2012 in Tokio:

gibt es Ideen bzw. konkrete Pläne zur Durchführung einer SOTM-EU 2012?

Ich hoffe erlich, dass die SOTM in Tokio ein Erfolg wird und dort viele 
Teilnehmer anwesend sind. Aber für manche Personen aus der großen 
Mapper-Comunity in Europa könnte Japan zu weit und auch zu teuer sein.



Grüße,
Michael.

PS: sorry für den Crosspost. Aber wenn wir im Rahmen der Discussion zum 
Entschluss Ja für SOTM-EU kommen, wird es vermutlich bald Zeit, mit 
der Planung zu beginnen.



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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2012 ???

[Maurizio Napolitano]

hi Michael!
you are right
This a good idea
If you start a working group i'm ready to partecipate
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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU 2012 ???

[John Sturdy]

I'd be interested in attending such a meeting; possibly in helping to
organize, depending on where it's hosted.

__John

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[OSM-talk] SOTM-EU starts in Vienna on Friday / Lightning Talks

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

   in 6 days (or make that 5.5), SOTM-EU is going to open in Vienna. 
Here's the list of attendees http://sotm-eu.org/attendees, here's the 
schedule http://sotm-eu.org/schedule, and here's the registration URL if 
you spontaneously decide to come: https://sotm-eu.org/registration


I'll be hosting the Lightning Talks sessions. If you already know that 
you're planning to hold one of those 5-minute talks presenting your pet 
project, software, or new tagging schema to an interested audience, it 
would make my work easier if you email me in advance.


I'm excited to be meeting many of you in Vienna. The talk lineup is 
great - for example, it'll be the first time for me to hear first-hand 
from the authors of Maperitive, Keepright, Overpass (was Server Side 
Script) or Mapnik Metawriters.


Bye
Frederik

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