[OSM-talk] SPAM-User "bremeninsider"

2009-11-14 Thread Peter Herison
Hi

This came up in the German forum
(http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45959) :

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/bremeninsider/diary

This userpage is advertising different hotels, hotelgroups or hotel
reservation sites.

Plaese delete!

Thanks


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Re: [OSM-talk] SPAM-User "bremeninsider"

2009-11-14 Thread Tom Hughes
On 14/11/09 11:53, Peter Herison wrote:

> This came up in the German forum
> (http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45959) :
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/bremeninsider/diary
>
> This userpage is advertising different hotels, hotelgroups or hotel
> reservation sites.
>
> Plaese delete!

It's already been discussed - the problem is that we don't have the 
technology to delete individual diary entries at the moment.

Normally with diary spammers I would just delete the account but in this 
case he appears to be a genuine user who has been making edits to the 
map and has also been making some misguided diary entries so I'm 
reluctant to delete the account.

Note that all references to "delete" above refer to logical deletion 
where the item is marked as deleted and hence hidden rather than actual 
deletion of any data in the database.

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] SPAM-User "bremeninsider"

2009-11-14 Thread Lars Francke
> It's already been discussed - the problem is that we don't have the
> technology to delete individual diary entries at the moment.

How about the nofollow attribute for all links in diaries and perhaps
user pages? It might discourage spammers a little bit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nofollow

Cheers,
Lars

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Re: [OSM-talk] SPAM-User "bremeninsider"

2009-11-14 Thread Peter Herison
Tom Hughes schrieb:
> On 14/11/09 11:53, Peter Herison wrote:
>> http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45959
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/bremeninsider/diary
>> This userpage is advertising different hotels, hotelgroups or hotel
>> reservation sites.
>> Plaese delete!
> It's already been discussed - the problem is that we don't have the 
> technology to delete individual diary entries at the moment.

Then we should improve our technology. :)

> Normally with diary spammers I would just delete the account but in this 
> case he appears to be a genuine user who has been making edits to the 
> map and has also been making some misguided diary entries so I'm 
> reluctant to delete the account.
> Note that all references to "delete" above refer to logical deletion 
> where the item is marked as deleted and hence hidden rather than actual 
> deletion of any data in the database.

I'm aware of this. Dealing with databases and restraints I know that a
simple "delete" would result in inconsistent data.

So sone idea comming in my mind are:
- block the user (what wouldn't help very much as I'm expecting that the
account is already inactive)
- delete the content of the userpage without deleting the account itself
- create a "deleted user"-account and move all edits to this account to
preserve the integrity of the database. This account could be used as a
collection for all edits of useraccounts which have been decided to be
deleted.



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Re: [OSM-talk] SPAM-User "bremeninsider"

2009-11-14 Thread Tom Hughes
On 14/11/09 13:06, Lars Francke wrote:
>> It's already been discussed - the problem is that we don't have the
>> technology to delete individual diary entries at the moment.
>
> How about the nofollow attribute for all links in diaries and perhaps
> user pages? It might discourage spammers a little bit.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nofollow

Patches, as always, are welcome.

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] SPAM-User "bremeninsider"

2009-11-14 Thread Tom Hughes
On 14/11/09 13:12, Peter Herison wrote:
> Tom Hughes schrieb:
>> On 14/11/09 11:53, Peter Herison wrote:
>>> http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45959
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/bremeninsider/diary
>>> This userpage is advertising different hotels, hotelgroups or hotel
>>> reservation sites.
>>> Plaese delete!
>> It's already been discussed - the problem is that we don't have the
>> technology to delete individual diary entries at the moment.
>
> Then we should improve our technology. :)

Sure - patches to add a "visible" flag to diary entries are, as always, 
welcome.

Tom

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Re: [OSM-talk] SPAM-User "bremeninsider"

2009-11-14 Thread Lars Francke
>>> It's already been discussed - the problem is that we don't have the
>>> technology to delete individual diary entries at the moment.
>>
>> How about the nofollow attribute for all links in diaries and perhaps
>> user pages? It might discourage spammers a little bit.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nofollow
>
> Patches, as always, are welcome.

I've attached the patch. It changes the htmlize function. As far as I
can see it is being used for diary entries, user pages, rss feed and
internal messaging system. If any of those should _not_ include the
nofollow tag we'd need to add a parameter to the function or something
like that. I went for the simplest possible way for now.

Cheers,
Lars


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