Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch and osmxapi-links
Stephan, I'm actually working on such a tool. It uses OSMXAPI syntax and supports extracting from a bounding box but can't handle really large files yet. I'm in the process of rewriting it so it can be used on national extracts such as those from Geofabrik. The first tests look fairly good. Just drop me an email if you're interested I'll keep you updated. Renaud. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Stefan Neufeind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stefan Neufeind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to wget the data from console $ wget http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/*%5Badopted=*%5D; after some waiting actually results in Connecting to osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org|137.110.119.130|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 501 Internal Server Error 2008-07-29 15:09:20 ERROR 501: Internal Server Error. Hmm ... I expect it's only just me and the API is working fine? :-) The API is working fine thanks, but that isn't the API, it's zappy and that is currently down as is well documented. Ah, I didn't recognize that. Is there a simple way to download a planet.osm (or germany.osm or so) and run an osmxapi locally? Or what would be the easiest way to extract all keys/values of a certain type or so to easily edit them in JOSM and upload those few after correction? Regards, Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Tagwatch and osmxapi-links
Hi, in tagwatch, e.g. at http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/tags.html I see entries that link to adresses like http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/*%5Bvalue=LIDL%5D That page takes quite a while to load but then returns with an empty document. Is that a timeout in the api or so? How do people manage to use tagwatch to find specific tagged entries (e.g. which need fixing)? Kind regards, Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch and osmxapi-links
On Jul 29, 2008, at 14:25, Stefan Neufeind wrote: in tagwatch, e.g. at http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/tags.html I see entries that link to adresses like http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/*%5Bvalue=LIDL%5D That page takes quite a while to load but then returns with an empty document. Is that a timeout in the api or so? How do people manage to use tagwatch to find specific tagged entries (e.g. which need fixing)? Those links point to XML documents that your browser may (Firefox) or may not (Safari) display. Best to download link location and save to whatever.osm. Would make sense to provide some kind of style information to make any browser that can handle XML display the data nicely? Cheers Robert ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch and osmxapi-links
Robert Vollmert wrote: On Jul 29, 2008, at 14:25, Stefan Neufeind wrote: in tagwatch, e.g. at http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/tags.html I see entries that link to adresses like http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/*%5Bvalue=LIDL%5D That page takes quite a while to load but then returns with an empty document. Is that a timeout in the api or so? How do people manage to use tagwatch to find specific tagged entries (e.g. which need fixing)? Those links point to XML documents that your browser may (Firefox) or may not (Safari) display. Best to download link location and save to whatever.osm. Would make sense to provide some kind of style information to make any browser that can handle XML display the data nicely? Hi, my firefox (ff3) doesn't display anything here, but also no error or something. And there is nothing in the document it downloaded (view document source). Trying to wget the data from console $ wget http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/*%5Badopted=*%5D; after some waiting actually results in Connecting to osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org|137.110.119.130|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 501 Internal Server Error 2008-07-29 15:09:20 ERROR 501: Internal Server Error. Hmm ... I expect it's only just me and the API is working fine? :-) Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch and osmxapi-links
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stefan Neufeind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to wget the data from console $ wget http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/*%5Badopted=*%5D; after some waiting actually results in Connecting to osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org|137.110.119.130|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 501 Internal Server Error 2008-07-29 15:09:20 ERROR 501: Internal Server Error. Hmm ... I expect it's only just me and the API is working fine? :-) The API is working fine thanks, but that isn't the API, it's zappy and that is currently down as is well documented. Tom -- Tom Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch and osmxapi-links
Tom Hughes wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stefan Neufeind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to wget the data from console $ wget http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/*%5Badopted=*%5D; after some waiting actually results in Connecting to osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org|137.110.119.130|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 501 Internal Server Error 2008-07-29 15:09:20 ERROR 501: Internal Server Error. Hmm ... I expect it's only just me and the API is working fine? :-) The API is working fine thanks, but that isn't the API, it's zappy and that is currently down as is well documented. Ah, I didn't recognize that. Is there a simple way to download a planet.osm (or germany.osm or so) and run an osmxapi locally? Or what would be the easiest way to extract all keys/values of a certain type or so to easily edit them in JOSM and upload those few after correction? Regards, Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch for europe
I've updated the site. * Images are available on the Key/Tag pages * Osmarender examples for every documented tag * integration of the osmxapi to get data.osm files At the moment i ignore the Bounding box, but i will implement this based on the used .osm file later to get results just for the parts that are interresting. Nonetheless, this approach works good in the first place to fix some of the errors, just don't try to get all tags with the Key highway or something like this, could take a while ;) Am Samstag, 5. Juli 2008 15:38:42 schrieb Mike Collinson: That would be great. I am very slowly working on a Perl web-based correction page that goes to osmxapi. I can scrape you page and its links while developing. I'd be glad to implement your idea, just mail me the informations about it as soon as you have something to work with and I'll start to integrate it. Jörg ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch for europe
Pieren wrote: Yes, I like also the 1 buildinge, the 3 buildings, the 2 buildingy, the 1 buildng, the 4 buildning, the 1 buildong, the 3 builduing, the 18 (!) buildung, the 1 builing, the 2 buillding. What we really need is a tagwatch where you can click one of those, correct it, and it fixes all instances in the database. Now _that_ would be powerful and useful. Gerv ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch for europe
Am Samstag, 5. Juli 2008 09:54:38 schrieb Gervase Markham: What we really need is a tagwatch where you can click one of those, correct it, and it fixes all instances in the database. Now _that_ would be powerful and useful. I can offer a direct link to the osmxapi which gives you a data.osm file with the elements. This can then be loaded in JOSM and corrected. A direct possibility to change the tags through a web interface would surely be the best way, but as first step this should be enough. I'll update the Tagwatch site on sunday night again with this and other changes I've made. Cheers Jörg ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch for europe
At 11:47 AM 5/07/2008, Etric Celine wrote: Am Samstag, 5. Juli 2008 09:54:38 schrieb Gervase Markham: What we really need is a tagwatch where you can click one of those, correct it, and it fixes all instances in the database. Now _that_ would be powerful and useful. I can offer a direct link to the osmxapi which gives you a data.osm file with the elements. This can then be loaded in JOSM and corrected. That would be great. I am very slowly working on a Perl web-based correction page that goes to osmxapi. I can scrape you page and its links while developing. Mike ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch for europe
Etric, Thank you very much for this and continuing to work on it. It may be that working in UNIX Operating System debugging for a few years has turned my brain peculiar, but I certainly find it fascinating browsing through the tags folks have been using. http://etricceline.de/osm/Europe/En/tags.htm It is certainly turning into a very useful adjunct to the Map Features proposal process (sorry, Frederick, adjunct not replacement :-) ). The building= tag, stalled as a proposal, has developed a fairly finite coherent set of values just by being used. I've used 'palace' twice and notice that up to 38 other people have thought of exactly the same thing. building= yes (100873), residential (2027), detached (1876), apartments (1362), block (912), true (572), university (502), school (324), warehouse (317), hall (311), barn (268), building (210), commercial (208), farm (182), house (177), industrial (174), hospital (171), flats (156), garages (150), retail (142), church (131), store (125), public (112), train_station (109), semi (107), office (106), castle (98), supermarket (94), terrace (88), garage (83), tower (80), city_hall (70), stadium (69), station (67), hotel (57), museum (55), glasshouse (52), shop (49), place_of_worship (46), recreation (45), palace (40), hall_of_residence (39), bunker (37), factory (36), shed (36), wall (33), appartments (29), stables (27), prison (26), pavillion (26) Also, building:use= residental (109), residential (95), education (22), offices (21), office (14), Residential (14), flat (13), Hospital (11), sport (11), Retail (8), shop (8), retail (6), Flat (6), commercial (5), Parking (5), association (5), parking (4), Office (4), Leisure (2), Residental (1), industrial (1), education;partying (1), Pavillion (1), Offices (1), supermarket (1), garage (1), Factory (1), offices;retail (1), Medical Research (1), Shop (1), Recreation (1), school (1), manse (1), exhibition hall (1), Commercial (1), bus_garage (1), warehouse (1) building:type= apartments (157), Hangar (61), greenhouse (38), residential (29), fuel_station (23), commercial (15), tank (14), fuel_station_shop (14), House (8), house (7), supermarket (5), Complex (5), toll_booth (5), fuelstation (4), restaurant (3), mall (3), hall (3), wall (2), y (2), stadium (2), Station (2), dam (2), church (2), school (2), fuelstation_payhouse (1), fuelstationshop (1), ruins (1), Monument (1), tower (1), prison (1), garage (1), toll booth (1), fire_station (1), Skyscraper (1), radome (1), swimming (1), doityourself (1), library (1), hangar (1), Industrial (1), shop (1), train_station (1), Mall (1), fountain (1), gymnastics (1) Mike At 12:30 AM 7/2/2008, Etric Celine wrote: Hi Everyone I used Frederik's Europe excerpt to generate statistics with the Tagwatch Script. see: http://etricceline.de/osm/Europe/En/index.htm The site is available in English and the other languages are uploading right now. Some of the changes I've made on the script: * better output result for all tag statistics * statistics are available for every Key that is mentioned on the Key:name or Map Feature pages * The script now generate statistics for the used Relations * Some general statistics are available about the used tags and their documentation status in the Wiki In the near future some other things will follow: * support for Tag pages that are just redirects (see oneway=yes as example) to get the documentation of this tags as well * some more general statistics that compare several single osm files with each other (make it possible to see which Europe country has more possible tagging errors) I will update the script in the svn as soon as i have finished all the things i like to change. Hopefully in the future the Tagwatch script can be a great help to find possible tagging errors or allows a small overview about what undocumented tags are widely used and thus help to solve the chaos on the proposal pages. Some nice things from the Europe excerpt: * 3.584 different keys are in use * they are used in combination with 18.881 different tags * 124 different relations can be found in Europe * and we found 16 different ways to write the multipolygon relation wrong * we used 3.838.091 the highway tag * 114.314 buildings are listed in Europe * 113.577 bridges and 21.440 tunnel * Furthermore we have 427 differend kinds of sports Cheers Jörg ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Tagwatch for europe
Hi Everyone I used Frederik's Europe excerpt to generate statistics with the Tagwatch Script. see: http://etricceline.de/osm/Europe/En/index.htm The site is available in English and the other languages are uploading right now. Some of the changes I've made on the script: * better output result for all tag statistics * statistics are available for every Key that is mentioned on the Key:name or Map Feature pages * The script now generate statistics for the used Relations * Some general statistics are available about the used tags and their documentation status in the Wiki In the near future some other things will follow: * support for Tag pages that are just redirects (see oneway=yes as example) to get the documentation of this tags as well * some more general statistics that compare several single osm files with each other (make it possible to see which Europe country has more possible tagging errors) I will update the script in the svn as soon as i have finished all the things i like to change. Hopefully in the future the Tagwatch script can be a great help to find possible tagging errors or allows a small overview about what undocumented tags are widely used and thus help to solve the chaos on the proposal pages. Some nice things from the Europe excerpt: * 3.584 different keys are in use * they are used in combination with 18.881 different tags * 124 different relations can be found in Europe * and we found 16 different ways to write the multipolygon relation wrong * we used 3.838.091 the highway tag * 114.314 buildings are listed in Europe * 113.577 bridges and 21.440 tunnel * Furthermore we have 427 differend kinds of sports Cheers Jörg ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch
On Thu, January 31, 2008 00:34, Etric Celine wrote:
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 22:38:13 Hakan Tandogan wrote:
As promised, I submitted your changes to SVN (
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/6725 ).
thanks
By the way, I just found a small mistake in construct.pl, line 310:
308 if(CheckIfExist(Nl:Tag:$Key=$Value, $tag_articles)) {
309 $wiki_nl = wiki_green; }
310 if(CheckIfExist(TrTag:$Key=$Value, $tag_articles)) {
311 $wiki_tr = wiki_green; }
I think you that should be Tr:Tag:$key, missing the colon. Could you fix
that on your end and re-run the turkish statistics?
Regards,
Hakan
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Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch
If you miss a country and can point me to the location of the excerpt I'm glad to add this as well. Can you do the Philippines? [http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=12.73lon=122.58zoom=6layers=B0FT] Thanks! maning -- |-|--| | __.-._ |Ohhh. Great warrior. Wars not make one great. -Yoda | | '-._7' |Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden| | /'.-c |Linux registered user #402901, http://counter.li.org/ | | | /T |http://esambale.wikispaces.com| | _)_/LI |http://www.geocities.com/esambale/philbiodivmap/philbirds.html | |-|--| ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch
On Tue, January 29, 2008 22:05, Etric Celine wrote: Together with these changes i have crated the tagwatch sites for 24 countries. All planet.osm excerpt are taken from http://roland-ramthun.de/osm/extracts/ If you miss a country and can point me to the location of the excerpt I'm glad to add this as well. Do you need an already downloaded extract or could you download a given bounding box from osmxapi? I can provide daily extracts, but fetching them yourself from osmxapi would remove one intermediate step. I'll try to update these statistics at least once in the month now, as i feel they are quite helpfull to detect common tagging errors and reflect what tags are really in use in the community. website can be found at: http://etricceline.de/osm/index.htm the sourcecode can be found here: http://etricceline.de/osm/Tagwatch.tar.gz (I'll hope someone can add it to the svn, as i have no account there (and general connecting problems with the university proxy here) I'll update the version in SVN later tonight if no one beats me to it. Regards, Hakan -- The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch
Etric Celine wrote: website can be found at: http://etricceline.de/osm/index.htm the sourcecode can be found here: http://etricceline.de/osm/Tagwatch.tar.gz (I'll hope someone can add it to the svn, as i have no account there (and general connecting problems with the university proxy here) As promised, I submitted your changes to SVN ( http://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/6725 ). If you miss a country and can point me to the location of the excerpt I'm glad to add this as well. Could you please add the changes for turkey and cyprus with data from http://www.gurkensalat.com/geostuff/osm-extracts/ ? I'll update that location daily with downloads from osmxapi. Regards, Hakan -- It's only when we have lost everything that we are free to do anything. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 22:38:13 Hakan Tandogan wrote: As promised, I submitted your changes to SVN ( http://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/6725 ). thanks Could you please add the changes for turkey and cyprus with data from http://www.gurkensalat.com/geostuff/osm-extracts/ ? I'll update that location daily with downloads from osmxapi. done Regards Joerg ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch
Etric Celine schrieb: Hi everyone, as you may or may not have noticed i have recently worked a bit on the existing Tagwatch script and changed a few things. My changes includes * the use of a template parsing engine and thus a better looking website * use of the Osmarender 6 rules file * listing how often every tag got used on nodes / ways * what other tags are in use with a specific tag * if the tag has a documentation on the OSMwiki Together with these changes i have crated the tagwatch sites for 24 countries. All planet.osm excerpt are taken from http://roland-ramthun.de/osm/extracts/ If you miss a country and can point me to the location of the excerpt I'm glad to add this as well. I'll try to update these statistics at least once in the month now, as i feel they are quite helpfull to detect common tagging errors and reflect what tags are really in use in the community. website can be found at: http://etricceline.de/osm/index.htm the sourcecode can be found here: http://etricceline.de/osm/Tagwatch.tar.gz (I'll hope someone can add it to the svn, as i have no account there (and general connecting problems with the university proxy here) Hi! First of all, thanks for your work on improving this. It's interesting to see the actual tags being used. One question: Is it possible to get the stats for the whole world or will this be too resource consuming? This might be very helpful for the feature proposals and other things. Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Tagwatch
Hi everyone, as you may or may not have noticed i have recently worked a bit on the existing Tagwatch script and changed a few things. My changes includes * the use of a template parsing engine and thus a better looking website * use of the Osmarender 6 rules file * listing how often every tag got used on nodes / ways * what other tags are in use with a specific tag * if the tag has a documentation on the OSMwiki Together with these changes i have crated the tagwatch sites for 24 countries. All planet.osm excerpt are taken from http://roland-ramthun.de/osm/extracts/ If you miss a country and can point me to the location of the excerpt I'm glad to add this as well. I'll try to update these statistics at least once in the month now, as i feel they are quite helpfull to detect common tagging errors and reflect what tags are really in use in the community. website can be found at: http://etricceline.de/osm/index.htm the sourcecode can be found here: http://etricceline.de/osm/Tagwatch.tar.gz (I'll hope someone can add it to the svn, as i have no account there (and general connecting problems with the university proxy here) cheers Joerg ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
