[OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc.
PLEASE X-POST TO TALK-GB, i am not registered there. tnx! hi, i just finished version 2 of UserActivity, a program that monitors actions in a certain area. there are new reports and drawn maps to be seen in/via the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UserActivity new: - map mode - detailed map mode - ways are monitored - working time slots are monitored so, now the next vandal can come :-)) cheers gerhard gary68 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc.
dear richard, yes, that's an idea. i added it to the wish list on the wiki page. now that the first real version is stable let's see what comes up. and i am sure there will be new features. although i stumbled upon the first doubts regarding the time slot analysis. One user thought that to be a bit too intrusive - personal data and so on... he might have a point there and i think i will add the mode time slot so i will be able to produce reports for the web without this section in the html file. but it keeps me (or other people) in a position to generate these portions of information privately. cheers gary68 gerhard On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 11:36 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: PLEASE X-POST TO TALK-GB, i am not registered there. tnx! hi, i just finished version 2 of UserActivity, a program that monitors actions in a certain area. there are new reports and drawn maps to be seen in/via the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UserActivity new: - map mode - detailed map mode - ways are monitored - working time slots are monitored so, now the next vandal can come :-)) cheers Dear Gerhard, Wonderful! Is it possible to add some visualization of new users vs. amount of activity? I wonder if there is a vandal-footprint that appears right from the start? Best regards, Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc.
I got http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/gary68/useractivity.pl and I notices some bugs: You are missing #!/usr/bin/perl at first line I fixed it and then I got: Undefined subroutine main::bzopen called at ./useractivity.pl line 1168. You have to use use Compress::Bzip2; also in useractivity.pl - doing it in included osm.pm is not enough :) Also, considering the help printed out when called without enough parameters, the part Mode = [N|P|D|S|PD] is not very descriptive. Could be better :) Martin On 18/09/2009, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: PLEASE X-POST TO TALK-GB, i am not registered there. tnx! hi, i just finished version 2 of UserActivity, a program that monitors actions in a certain area. there are new reports and drawn maps to be seen in/via the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UserActivity new: - map mode - detailed map mode - ways are monitored - working time slots are monitored so, now the next vandal can come :-)) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc.
hi martin, thanks for the feedback. 1.) this #! thing doesn't work for me... i added it to the script nevertheless. 2.) bzip2. you are right. i just didn't run it with a zipped file so i didn't notice. 3.) yeah, yeah. you know how it is. i expanded the usage string a bit. the wiki page told a bit more... new version committed to svn. n8. cheers gerhard gary68 On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 20:15 +0200, MP wrote: I got http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/gary68/useractivity.pl and I notices some bugs: You are missing #!/usr/bin/perl at first line I fixed it and then I got: Undefined subroutine main::bzopen called at ./useractivity.pl line 1168. You have to use use Compress::Bzip2; also in useractivity.pl - doing it in included osm.pm is not enough :) Also, considering the help printed out when called without enough parameters, the part Mode = [N|P|D|S|PD] is not very descriptive. Could be better :) Martin On 18/09/2009, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: PLEASE X-POST TO TALK-GB, i am not registered there. tnx! hi, i just finished version 2 of UserActivity, a program that monitors actions in a certain area. there are new reports and drawn maps to be seen in/via the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UserActivity new: - map mode - detailed map mode - ways are monitored - working time slots are monitored so, now the next vandal can come :-)) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc.
#! is called a shebang and allows you to run a script without having to specify which program runs it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix) Your wiki page shows that you specify perl on the command line, so the shebang isn't needed if the shell can find perl, but it's typical to add it to scripts. The location of perl can vary. Use 'which perl' to find yours. Hope that helps. Andy Gary68 wrote: hi martin, thanks for the feedback. 1.) this #! thing doesn't work for me... i added it to the script nevertheless. 2.) bzip2. you are right. i just didn't run it with a zipped file so i didn't notice. 3.) yeah, yeah. you know how it is. i expanded the usage string a bit. the wiki page told a bit more... new version committed to svn. n8. cheers gerhard gary68 -- Andy PGP Key ID: 0xDC1B5864 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc.
Nice start! Agreed that filtering for users outside the social network of OSM is going to be incredibly useful. These are new users, who are (most unintentionally) causing issues, and folks who haven't earned trust in the community yet. Would it be possible to give a whitelist of trusted users to UserActivity and filter them out? Or only show users with number of edits below a certain threshhold. With filters in place, an RSS feed or a map to consult weekly is going to be great tools for scaling monitoring of map activity. -Mikel - Original Message From: Gary68 g...@gary68.de To: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com Cc: talk talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:57:19 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc. dear richard, yes, that's an idea. i added it to the wish list on the wiki page. now that the first real version is stable let's see what comes up. and i am sure there will be new features. although i stumbled upon the first doubts regarding the time slot analysis. One user thought that to be a bit too intrusive - personal data and so on... he might have a point there and i think i will add the mode time slot so i will be able to produce reports for the web without this section in the html file. but it keeps me (or other people) in a position to generate these portions of information privately. cheers gary68 gerhard On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 11:36 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: PLEASE X-POST TO TALK-GB, i am not registered there. tnx! hi, i just finished version 2 of UserActivity, a program that monitors actions in a certain area. there are new reports and drawn maps to be seen in/via the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UserActivity new: - map mode - detailed map mode - ways are monitored - working time slots are monitored so, now the next vandal can come :-)) cheers Dear Gerhard, Wonderful! Is it possible to add some visualization of new users vs. amount of activity? I wonder if there is a vandal-footprint that appears right from the start? Best regards, Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc.
Funny i used which first. Doesn t work -- Urspr. Mitt. -- Betreff: Re: [OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc. Von: Andrew Ayre a...@britishideas.com Datum: 18.09.2009 21:52 #! is called a shebang and allows you to run a script without having to specify which program runs it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix) Your wiki page shows that you specify perl on the command line, so the shebang isn't needed if the shell can find perl, but it's typical to add it to scripts. The location of perl can vary. Use 'which perl' to find yours. Hope that helps. Andy Gary68 wrote: hi martin, thanks for the feedback. 1.) this #! thing doesn't work for me... i added it to the script nevertheless. 2.) bzip2. you are right. i just didn't run it with a zipped file so i didn't notice. 3.) yeah, yeah. you know how it is. i expanded the usage string a bit. the wiki page told a bit more... new version committed to svn. n8. cheers gerhard gary68 -- Andy PGP Key ID: 0xDC1B5864 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc.
hi, i have to think about new users first. how long to monitor, what will be showed etc. it also might imply some storage of local data - as well as a whitelist would. i am not sure about a whitelist. good can turn into evel at least. but of course that's the worst case. since the tool is called user activity it shouldn't mask some actions/users. but of course it could be an option. the map is good for local areas and for an overview of a region/country. but the details vanish fast. or on the other hand you could generate pics the size of 20.000 x 30.000 pixels which are hard to handle and view... cheers gary68 gerhard On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 13:08 -0700, Mikel Maron wrote: Nice start! Agreed that filtering for users outside the social network of OSM is going to be incredibly useful. These are new users, who are (most unintentionally) causing issues, and folks who haven't earned trust in the community yet. Would it be possible to give a whitelist of trusted users to UserActivity and filter them out? Or only show users with number of edits below a certain threshhold. With filters in place, an RSS feed or a map to consult weekly is going to be great tools for scaling monitoring of map activity. -Mikel - Original Message From: Gary68 g...@gary68.de To: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com Cc: talk talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:57:19 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] UserActivity / Vandalism etc. dear richard, yes, that's an idea. i added it to the wish list on the wiki page. now that the first real version is stable let's see what comes up. and i am sure there will be new features. although i stumbled upon the first doubts regarding the time slot analysis. One user thought that to be a bit too intrusive - personal data and so on... he might have a point there and i think i will add the mode time slot so i will be able to produce reports for the web without this section in the html file. but it keeps me (or other people) in a position to generate these portions of information privately. cheers gary68 gerhard On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 11:36 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: PLEASE X-POST TO TALK-GB, i am not registered there. tnx! hi, i just finished version 2 of UserActivity, a program that monitors actions in a certain area. there are new reports and drawn maps to be seen in/via the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UserActivity new: - map mode - detailed map mode - ways are monitored - working time slots are monitored so, now the next vandal can come :-)) cheers Dear Gerhard, Wonderful! Is it possible to add some visualization of new users vs. amount of activity? I wonder if there is a vandal-footprint that appears right from the start? Best regards, Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
