Re: [OSM-talk] feasibility - different use of openstreetmap

2009-09-23 Thread John Smith
2009/9/23 Peter Körner :
>> Question:
>> Would it be possible/feasible to setup a map server like openstreetmap
>> that shows all the street/roads along with my aerial photography and
>> field outlines, and then make a search for the field by customer, by
>> legal description or by field name?
>
> I'm unsure about the technical details, but in general you would need a
> apache with mod_tile [0] / renderd / mapnik [1] to render your
> street-tiles with transparent background.
>
> Your Areal photos could (should?) be supplied by a WMS-Server (?)
>
> Both would be bundled together with OpenLayers [2]. As they also support
> vector drawings from external sources (GML, KML, etc.) I would suggest
> to put the field-outlines in here.
>
> Especially transparent street-tiles would be very cool to share to the
> community. If I'ts not possible to publish the tiles you may want to
> publish the styles-file & configurations you used to generate them to
> the wiki.

I'm trying to figure out how to do a similar thing with post codes,
for the moment I've got a very basic mapnik style sheet that just
produces town names, country borders and shaded postcode areas.

http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=7&ll=-33.52829,148.04077&layer=00B00FF

OpenLayers can do semi-transparent layers over the top of a base
layer, so I'll probably be going down that path too:

http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=7&lat=-32.52829&lon=148.04077&layers=00B000TF

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Re: [OSM-talk] feasibility - different use of openstreetmap

2009-09-23 Thread Peter Körner
> Question:
> Would it be possible/feasible to setup a map server like openstreetmap 
> that shows all the street/roads along with my aerial photography and 
> field outlines, and then make a search for the field by customer, by 
> legal description or by field name?

I'm unsure about the technical details, but in general you would need a 
apache with mod_tile [0] / renderd / mapnik [1] to render your 
street-tiles with transparent background.

Your Areal photos could (should?) be supplied by a WMS-Server (?)

Both would be bundled together with OpenLayers [2]. As they also support 
vector drawings from external sources (GML, KML, etc.) I would suggest 
to put the field-outlines in here.

Especially transparent street-tiles would be very cool to share to the 
community. If I'ts not possible to publish the tiles you may want to 
publish the styles-file & configurations you used to generate them to 
the wiki.

Good Look with your Project,
Peter



[0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mod_tile
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik
[2] http://openlayers.org/

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Re: [OSM-talk] feasibility - different use of openstreetmap

2009-09-22 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Tim Litwiller  wrote:
> Introduction:
> For my work we have a need for mapping "fields" agricultural sections of
> land for growing crops. We already put the legal description of the land
> in the our invoicing \ work order system and other information about the
> field, but we need a way to quickly print a high quality aerial photo of
> the section that the land is in and the outline of the field.  I only
> need to cover 10 counties in central Kansas at least to start with, and
> I can get the free US Gov aerial photography and the field outlines from
> USDA.

Interesting background and use case.  Thank you for sharing.

> Question:
> Would it be possible/feasible to setup a map server like openstreetmap
> that shows all the street/roads along with my aerial photography and
> field outlines, and then make a search for the field by customer, by
> legal description or by field name?

Yes.  Absolutely.  And provide it all as a web interface either with
or without usernames and passwords.

Many folks are doing similar things.  Here is a site that will print a
pdf map of a city for you with OSM data and an index.

http://www.maposmatic.org/

You'll change a few things.  You'll layer aerial images under the road
info.  You'll search on customer / field information rather than city
names.  And you'll only work in Kansas instead of France.  ;-)

Sounds like fun!

> If this in not the correct group for this, then what group would I ask
> this question? I realize the your system is about street and I want to
> misuse it for land areas, but it is such a nice system and looks like a
> great framework to start building what I need from.

This is not misuse!  ;-)  "... such as street maps..." is just one
popular use.

>From the front page of the wiki:
"OpenStreetMap creates and provides free geographic data such as
street maps to anyone who wants them. The project was started because
most maps you think of as free actually have legal or technical
restrictions on their use, holding back people from using them in
creative, productive, or unexpected ways. "

Best regards,
Richard

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Re: [OSM-talk] feasibility - different use of openstreetmap

2009-09-22 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Dave F.  madasafish.com> writes:


> I'm afraid I don't have your answer either Tim, But I'm interested that 
> you got field outlines.
> One thing the UK is missing in rural areas are these.
> I guess the UK equivalent would be DEFRA? Does anybody know if they have 
> this data?

Every EU country must have Land Parcel Identification System (LPIS).  Almost all
countries base it on orthophotos, which must be pretty accurate (RMSE <2.5 m)
and no more than five years old. An example from Czech republic is good reading
as an introduction http://www.lpis.cz/index_en.html. In short, very fine images
exist, as well as very accurate data about actively used fieds. In most coutries
neither images nor field parcel data are free but they can be used only for
administrating and controlling farmer subsidies.


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Re: [OSM-talk] feasibility - different use of openstreetmap

2009-09-22 Thread Dave F.
Tim Litwiller wrote:
> Introduction:
> For my work we have a need for mapping "fields" agricultural sections of 
> land for growing crops. We already put the legal description of the land 
> in the our invoicing \ work order system and other information about the 
> field, but we need a way to quickly print a high quality aerial photo of 
> the section that the land is in and the outline of the field.  I only 
> need to cover 10 counties in central Kansas at least to start with, and 
> I can get the free US Gov aerial photography and the field outlines from 
> USDA.
>
>   
I'm afraid I don't have your answer either Tim, But I'm interested that 
you got field outlines.
One thing the UK is missing in rural areas are these.
I guess the UK equivalent would be DEFRA? Does anybody know if they have 
this data?

Cheers
Dave F.


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Re: [OSM-talk] feasibility - different use of openstreetmap

2009-09-22 Thread Ciarán Mooney
Hi,

> If this in not the correct group for this, then what group would I ask
> this question? I realize the your system is about street and I want to
> misuse it for land areas, but it is such a nice system and looks like a
> great framework to start building what I need from.

I'm afraid I don't have an answer to your question. However you are
not misusing OSM! We care about all geographic features, the name
"OpenStreetMap" is has become a bit of a misnomer.

I'm sure someone will be along soon with an answer to your actual question.

Ciarán

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[OSM-talk] feasibility - different use of openstreetmap

2009-09-22 Thread Tim Litwiller
Introduction:
For my work we have a need for mapping "fields" agricultural sections of 
land for growing crops. We already put the legal description of the land 
in the our invoicing \ work order system and other information about the 
field, but we need a way to quickly print a high quality aerial photo of 
the section that the land is in and the outline of the field.  I only 
need to cover 10 counties in central Kansas at least to start with, and 
I can get the free US Gov aerial photography and the field outlines from 
USDA.

Question:
Would it be possible/feasible to setup a map server like openstreetmap 
that shows all the street/roads along with my aerial photography and 
field outlines, and then make a search for the field by customer, by 
legal description or by field name?


If this in not the correct group for this, then what group would I ask 
this question? I realize the your system is about street and I want to 
misuse it for land areas, but it is such a nice system and looks like a 
great framework to start building what I need from.


Thanks

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