Re: [OSM-talk] traffic_calming not rendered?

2008-10-05 Thread Thomas Wood 
Alex S. wrote:
> Tristan Scott wrote:
>> So my question is that... am I doing anything wrong?
>> Or is the renderer really ignoring a highway tag on a renderable highway?
>>
>> name=Enfield Road
>> highway=traffic_calming
>> traffic_calming=bump
>>
>> Also, someone's changed one back to residential, leaving the 
>> traffic_calming=bump value. The road is shown in mapnik and osmarender 
>> as a residential road - no traffic_calming rendering visible.
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:traffic_calming
> 
> As I read it, it's not replacing the highway=* tag, but is in addition to.
> So:
>   highway=residential
>   traffic_calming=chicane
> 
> A bump should be a node, IMHO.
> 
May I theorise that aim of highway=traffic_calming was for use on nodes 
that would otherwise only be marked with traffic_calming=*?

Regards,
Thomas Wood

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Re: [OSM-talk] traffic_calming not rendered?

2008-10-05 Thread Marc Schütz 
Am Sonntag 05 Oktober 2008 11:08:39 schrieb David Earl:
> highway will remain what it was - that just says what kind of road it is.
>
> Whoever inveted the traffic_calming tag intends it to marke the actual
> places where the traffic calming measures are, not that the road is is
> some way "traffic calmed" as a whole.
>
> So highway=unclassified (or whatever)
>
> and then on nodes, traffic_calming=whatever at the appropriate locations.

Actually, in section "Rendering" it says:

ways: the entire way is hatched diagonally

But I think it is better to tag a node, not the entire street.

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Re: [OSM-talk] traffic_calming not rendered?

2008-10-05 Thread Alex S. 
Tristan Scott wrote:
> So my question is that... am I doing anything wrong?
> Or is the renderer really ignoring a highway tag on a renderable highway?
> 
> name=Enfield Road
> highway=traffic_calming
> traffic_calming=bump
> 
> Also, someone's changed one back to residential, leaving the 
> traffic_calming=bump value. The road is shown in mapnik and osmarender 
> as a residential road - no traffic_calming rendering visible.
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:traffic_calming

As I read it, it's not replacing the highway=* tag, but is in addition to.
So:
  highway=residential
  traffic_calming=chicane

A bump should be a node, IMHO.


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Re: [OSM-talk] traffic_calming not rendered?

2008-10-05 Thread sergio sevillano 

Tristan Scott escribió:
I'm been poking round the area of Enfield Road, Norwich, UK and some 
of the roads have speedbumps - I have changed the unclassified tags 
for traffic_calming tags on the highway. Now they're not rendered at all!


So my question is that... am I doing anything wrong?
Or is the renderer really ignoring a highway tag on a renderable highway?



highway=traffic_calming

does not exist so it wont render, i think it should be

on the way:
name=Enfield Road
highway=unclassified,  residential or what ever main type the road is

on the node where the bump is:
traffic_calming=bump


name=Enfield Road
highway=traffic_calming
traffic_calming=bump

Also, someone's changed one back to residential, leaving the 
traffic_calming=bump value. The road is shown in mapnik and osmarender 
as a residential road - no traffic_calming rendering visible.


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:traffic_calming

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Re: [OSM-talk] traffic_calming not rendered?

2008-10-05 Thread Marc Schütz 
Am Sonntag 05 Oktober 2008 10:36:49 schrieb Tristan Scott:
> I'm been poking round the area of Enfield Road, Norwich, UK and some of the
> roads have speedbumps - I have changed the unclassified tags for
> traffic_calming tags on the highway. Now they're not rendered at all!
>
> So my question is that... am I doing anything wrong?
> Or is the renderer really ignoring a highway tag on a renderable highway?
>
> name=Enfield Road
> highway=traffic_calming
> traffic_calming=bump
>
> Also, someone's changed one back to residential, leaving the
> traffic_calming=bump value. The road is shown in mapnik and osmarender as a
> residential road - no traffic_calming rendering visible.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:traffic_calming

The wiki was wrong on highway=traffic_calming. This was just added by a user 
some time ago for no apparent reason. I've removed it again.
Just use the normal highway=* classification appropriate for that road.

AFAIK none of the renderers understand the traffic_calming=* tags yet, that's 
why they aren't rendered.

Regards, Marc



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Re: [OSM-talk] traffic_calming not rendered?

2008-10-05 Thread David Earl 
highway will remain what it was - that just says what kind of road it is.

Whoever inveted the traffic_calming tag intends it to marke the actual 
places where the traffic calming measures are, not that the road is is 
some way "traffic calmed" as a whole.

So highway=unclassified (or whatever)

and then on nodes, traffic_calming=whatever at the appropriate locations.

The fact that someone has suggested how it might be rendered doesn't 
mean it *is* rendered.

David

On 05/10/2008 09:36, Tristan Scott wrote:
> I'm been poking round the area of Enfield Road, Norwich, UK and some of 
> the roads have speedbumps - I have changed the unclassified tags for 
> traffic_calming tags on the highway. Now they're not rendered at all!
> 
> So my question is that... am I doing anything wrong?
> Or is the renderer really ignoring a highway tag on a renderable highway?
> 
> name=Enfield Road
> highway=traffic_calming
> traffic_calming=bump
> 
> Also, someone's changed one back to residential, leaving the 
> traffic_calming=bump value. The road is shown in mapnik and osmarender 
> as a residential road - no traffic_calming rendering visible.
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:traffic_calming
> 
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> Yare Valley Technical Services
> www.yvts.co.uk 
> 07837 205829
> 
> 
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[OSM-talk] traffic_calming not rendered?

2008-10-05 Thread Tristan Scott 
I'm been poking round the area of Enfield Road, Norwich, UK and some of the
roads have speedbumps - I have changed the unclassified tags for
traffic_calming tags on the highway. Now they're not rendered at all!

So my question is that... am I doing anything wrong?
Or is the renderer really ignoring a highway tag on a renderable highway?

name=Enfield Road
highway=traffic_calming
traffic_calming=bump

Also, someone's changed one back to residential, leaving the
traffic_calming=bump value. The road is shown in mapnik and osmarender as a
residential road - no traffic_calming rendering visible.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:traffic_calming

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Yare Valley Technical Services
www.yvts.co.uk
07837 205829
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