Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 10:40:42PM -0400, Christopher Schmidt wrote: in options, choose 'Aerial - OpenAerialMap' as background and you'll be fine hmm, i'm slightly baffled by that. the oam coverage for nz is appalling at best and as an aside, i'd be very surprised if it was better resolution than the yahoo imagery anywhere on the planet In the majority of the world, OAM and Yahoo! imagery are the same -- both based on Landsat. The difference, in those areas, is that OAM will display tiles far above 1:1 ratio, as opposed to just giving a 'no data' message. Additionally, I highly doubt you will see anything higher resolution than http://openaerialmap.org/map/?lat=37.79202lon=-122.32715zoom=21layers=BF in Yahoo! anywhere on the planet. I am not local, but the openstreetmap.org data at the north side of the canal does not seem to match what is on the imagery? More specifically the raster of streets seems out of place. cu bart ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
Christopher Schmidt wrote: Richard is likely limited by the Yahoo! Flash API: I expect that there's a fair chance that Yahoo! hasn't updated their Flash API to provide the new zoom levels that the main API added 2-3 weeks ago (Yahoo added more zoom levels worldwide at that time). (Of course, Richard will tell me if I'm wrong, I'm sure :)) It sounds likely, though I'll look into it. David - could you give a lat/long for the area? Potlatch's approach is to faithfully use the Yahoo API, to stay on the right side of the legal agreement. The only tweaking it does is that it tries to automatically hide the Yahoo layer if all the tiles are blank, because presenting a first-time mapper with a load of tiles saying Sorry, there is no data for this area is pretty confusing. That does therefore, I'm afraid, preclude zooming in beyond what Yahoo offers, but the screen magnifier suggestion is a good one. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
On 3 May 2008, at 03:40, Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:51:43PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: In the majority of the world, OAM and Yahoo! imagery are the same -- both based on Landsat. The difference, in those areas, is that OAM will display tiles far above 1:1 ratio, as opposed to just giving a 'no data' message. Sure does. Additionally, I highly doubt you will see anything higher resolution than http://openaerialmap.org/map/?lat=37.79202lon=-122.32715zoom=21layers=BF in Yahoo! anywhere on the planet. Um looks rather blocky where I am. I'm yet to see OAM that is of decent quality where I am. http://openaerialmap.org/map/?lat=51.40772lon=-0.06197zoom=17layers=BF Shaun ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 09:30:39AM +0200, bvh wrote: On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 10:40:42PM -0400, Christopher Schmidt wrote: in options, choose 'Aerial - OpenAerialMap' as background and you'll be fine hmm, i'm slightly baffled by that. the oam coverage for nz is appalling at best and as an aside, i'd be very surprised if it was better resolution than the yahoo imagery anywhere on the planet In the majority of the world, OAM and Yahoo! imagery are the same -- both based on Landsat. The difference, in those areas, is that OAM will display tiles far above 1:1 ratio, as opposed to just giving a 'no data' message. Additionally, I highly doubt you will see anything higher resolution than http://openaerialmap.org/map/?lat=37.79202lon=-122.32715zoom=21layers=BF in Yahoo! anywhere on the planet. I am not local, but the openstreetmap.org data at the north side of the canal does not seem to match what is on the imagery? More specifically the raster of streets seems out of place. The OSM data in OAM is 6 months out of date, if that's what you're referring to... It's probably already fixed in OSM. Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt MetaCarta ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 08:03:16AM -0400, Christopher Schmidt wrote: I am not local, but the openstreetmap.org data at the north side of the canal does not seem to match what is on the imagery? More specifically the raster of streets seems out of place. The OSM data in OAM is 6 months out of date, if that's what you're referring to... It's probably already fixed in OSM. I checked in merkaartor so that I could easily compare yahoo and OAM imagery for that area and it was there that I noticed the strange looking roads. So it was certainly not fixed this morning. cu bart ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:38 AM, bvh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 08:03:16AM -0400, Christopher Schmidt wrote: I am not local, but the openstreetmap.org data at the north side of the canal does not seem to match what is on the imagery? More specifically the raster of streets seems out of place. The OSM data in OAM is 6 months out of date, if that's what you're referring to... It's probably already fixed in OSM. I checked in merkaartor so that I could easily compare yahoo and OAM imagery for that area and it was there that I noticed the strange looking roads. So it was certainly not fixed this morning. cu bart Then probably those are original roads from the TIGER import, which has known accuracy issues. Someone will need to fix those up. And now that it's been brought to the attention of the list, I'd bet that gets done shortly. Karl ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
in options, choose 'Aerial - OpenAerialMap' as background and you'll be fine regards ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
2008/5/3 micha ruh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: in options, choose 'Aerial - OpenAerialMap' as background and you'll be fine hmm, i'm slightly baffled by that. the oam coverage for nz is appalling at best and as an aside, i'd be very surprised if it was better resolution than the yahoo imagery anywhere on the planet ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/5/3 micha ruh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: in options, choose 'Aerial - OpenAerialMap' as background and you'll be fine hmm, i'm slightly baffled by that. the oam coverage for nz is appalling at best and as an aside, i'd be very surprised if it was better resolution than the yahoo imagery anywhere on the planet You'd be better off using a screen magnifier application to zoom the entire screen. On Windows, Mac and some distributions of Linux they are built in. On Windows, use the built-in screen magnifier in Programs Accessories Accessibility Magnifier (instructions: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/accessibility/magnifierturnon.mspx) On Mac, simply use Ctrl-scroll wheel up to zoom in (you might have to enable a preference under the Trackpad tab of Keyboard Mouse Preferences to enable it). In Linux, use Orca in GNOME or KMagnifier in KDE (your distribution probably has a way to enable this through Accessibility Preferences). I have a Mac, and I do this all the time to make tracing Yahoo imagery more accurate. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:51:43PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/5/3 micha ruh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: in options, choose 'Aerial - OpenAerialMap' as background and you'll be fine hmm, i'm slightly baffled by that. the oam coverage for nz is appalling at best and as an aside, i'd be very surprised if it was better resolution than the yahoo imagery anywhere on the planet In the majority of the world, OAM and Yahoo! imagery are the same -- both based on Landsat. The difference, in those areas, is that OAM will display tiles far above 1:1 ratio, as opposed to just giving a 'no data' message. Additionally, I highly doubt you will see anything higher resolution than http://openaerialmap.org/map/?lat=37.79202lon=-122.32715zoom=21layers=BF in Yahoo! anywhere on the planet. Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt MetaCarta ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
You're right: that OAM imagery is very detailed. Unfortunately, it's not that good where I'm mapping. In Oakland, California, Yahoo! has two zoom levels beyond what Potlatch will display. It would be very helpful to me if Potlatch would display those zoom levels. Google has one (or two) more beyond Yahoo! Richard, can you add the please? -Dave On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:51:43PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/5/3 micha ruh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: in options, choose 'Aerial - OpenAerialMap' as background and you'll be fine hmm, i'm slightly baffled by that. the oam coverage for nz is appalling at best and as an aside, i'd be very surprised if it was better resolution than the yahoo imagery anywhere on the planet In the majority of the world, OAM and Yahoo! imagery are the same -- both based on Landsat. The difference, in those areas, is that OAM will display tiles far above 1:1 ratio, as opposed to just giving a 'no data' message. Additionally, I highly doubt you will see anything higher resolution than http://openaerialmap.org/map/?lat=37.79202lon=-122.32715zoom=21layers=BF in Yahoo! anywhere on the planet. Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt MetaCarta ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:19 PM, David Muir Sharnoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right: that OAM imagery is very detailed. Unfortunately, it's not that good where I'm mapping. In Oakland, California, Yahoo! has two zoom levels beyond what Potlatch will display. It would be very helpful to me if Potlatch would display those zoom levels. Google has one (or two) more beyond Yahoo! Richard, can you add the please? -Dave Umm... Did you zoom out? That photo is in Alameda. Granted, outside the boundaries of the Naval Air Station the resolution's not that great. But if you want to map where to fly model airplanes, you're all set. :-) Karl ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 08:19:52PM -0700, David Muir Sharnoff wrote: You're right: that OAM imagery is very detailed. Unfortunately, it's not that good where I'm mapping. Sorry, my comments were tongue in cheek. I don't expect there to be many cases where OAM is the best choice for mapping. Richard, can you add the please? Richard is likely limited by the Yahoo! Flash API: I expect that there's a fair chance that Yahoo! hasn't updated their Flash API to provide the new zoom levels that the main API added 2-3 weeks ago (Yahoo added more zoom levels worldwide at that time). (Of course, Richard will tell me if I'm wrong, I'm sure :)) Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt MetaCarta ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
