Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
On 24/01/2011 10:59 PM, Gorm E. Johnsen wrote: The idea is a 'poi multiplexer system' to manage a list of pois. Each poi might be 'linked' to an osm-object or kept private. Its easy to change tags of any or all of pois in the list, syncing to osm if linked. Pois may be imported from csv or xapi and exported as gpx, csv, osm etc. Currently supported osm-objects are nodes and ways. pois may be displayed on a slippy-map. Made with PHP and mysql. _Very_ far from a finished tool, so it its not published anywhere at the moment. Anyone may have a tarball if they like. Hi, could you publish or email the tarball? I've just discovered kodingen.com, so the barrier to entry in hosting little PHP/mysql projects just got a lot lower. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
2011/1/24 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Please don't feed the troll ... C'mon now, if I wanted to troll I would have talked shit about PL1. But in fact I like Potlatch. PL1 is by far my favorite of the 4. If it hadn't those horrible habits like spamming the object's history (if you move a node you'll get lots of versions, at least in live-mode) I wonder if the issue might be that I use Windows. Do most JOSMers use Windows, or some other OS? I'm sure Java is especially sucky on Windows. did you try to give it more memory? As soon as you offer it say 600MB-1 GB it gets more stable ;-) Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
I think a tool like this would help to maintain consistent tags across geographically separated objects. Hi I have also tinkered on a tool that might do something like you ask for. The idea is a 'poi multiplexer system' to manage a list of pois. Each poi might be 'linked' to an osm-object or kept private. Its easy to change tags of any or all of pois in the list, syncing to osm if linked. Pois may be imported from csv or xapi and exported as gpx, csv, osm etc. Currently supported osm-objects are nodes and ways. pois may be displayed on a slippy-map. Made with PHP and mysql. _Very_ far from a finished tool, so it its not published anywhere at the moment. Anyone may have a tarball if they like. best regards. -gorm ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
On lundi 24 janvier 2011 at 11:38, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote : I wonder if the issue might be that I use Windows. Do most JOSMers use Windows, or some other OS? I'm sure Java is especially sucky on Windows. did you try to give it more memory? As soon as you offer it say 600MB-1 GB it gets more stable ;-) I use it with -Xmx512m with openjdk (on Linux), I don't remember having JOSM crash. Lastly I have used it for hours with tens of thousands of objects loaded, lots of tiles from bing or yahoo and more than a thousand edits in the undo list. From the few times I did use potlatch (about a year ago) it was way slower than JOSM (on the same computer), but flash for Linux is quite bad. -- Renaud Michel ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
Hi, Steve Bennett wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: a) Allow you to edit multiple objects at once (perhaps: http://rawedit.openstreetmap.fr/edit/relation/1317525057716530) b) Only show tags c) Show it in table form d) Allow you to populate the table in a) by a query, like all RWN relations in Australia or all man_made=tower with needs_review=yes within the current viewport. e) Provide links from each row to view the object in the normal OSM view, to Potlatch-edit it, etc. f) automatically enqueue the resulting mechanical mass-edit into a public review system where others can put in their veto before it is executed ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:45:53 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: Hi all, I wonder if anyone has ever made an OSM editor which is not map-based, for just editing tags on objects. I have, but never released it. I also made a web version of it. However, it's not published anywhere (anymore). One of these days, I should really finalise it: https://github.com/dpaleino/piote It worked quite well, however I haven't used it since long :) (I still have a couple of users though). If there's enough interest, I might revive it :) David -- . ''`. Debian developer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 | http://deb.li/dapal `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
Le 23/01/2011 23:45, Steve Bennett a écrit : Hi all, I wonder if anyone has ever made an OSM editor which is not map-based, for just editing tags on objects. For example, I want to update the network tag on 4 long-distance walking track relations in New Zealand. Using Potlatch 2, that's pretty tedious: navigate to each one, start the editor, open the relation, modify it, save, etc etc. Whereas assuming I already have the relation IDs, I could do all this with some kind of spreadsheet view. (Actually that makes me think of some kind of solution: the ability to export and import all the tags of a given object or objects. Does that exist in some easy form, like a REST interface?) I think a tool like this would help to maintain consistent tags across geographically separated objects. Thanks, Steve JOSM using XAPI urls or 'download an object' with its id, or the 'remoteControl' tool. I very often use this way. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com wrote: JOSM using XAPI urls or 'download an object' with its id, or the 'remoteControl' tool. I very often use this way. That's good to know. I should have pointed out two pieces of information: 1) I have a strong preference for online tools 2) I'm allergic to JOSM. Hives, rashes, difficulty breathing, elevated temperature, you name it. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:58 AM, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: It worked quite well, however I haven't used it since long :) (I still have a couple of users though). If there's enough interest, I might revive it :) Cool, what would be required to get it up and running again? Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
Hi, Steve Bennett wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever made an OSM editor which is not map-based, for just editing tags on objects. http://rawedit.openstreetmap.fr/ Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:12:34 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:58 AM, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote: It worked quite well, however I haven't used it since long :) (I still have a couple of users though). If there's enough interest, I might revive it :) Cool, what would be required to get it up and running again? Some free time for me :) I'll see what I can do during the next week, shouldn't be hard ;) David -- . ''`. Debian developer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 | http://deb.li/dapal `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Steve Bennett wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever made an OSM editor which is not map-based, for just editing tags on objects. http://rawedit.openstreetmap.fr/ Cool. That's useful for when you know the exact lat/lon of the nodes you want to place. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
Hi, Anthony wrote: Cool. That's useful for when you know the exact lat/lon of the nodes you want to place. Well for those that don't go into cardiac arrest when they see the JOSM splash screen, there's also Shift-D ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Anthony wrote: Cool. That's useful for when you know the exact lat/lon of the nodes you want to place. Well for those that don't go into cardiac arrest when they see the JOSM splash screen, there's also Shift-D ;) I'm not quite sure why, but I really don't like JOSM. Of the four main editors (others being PL1, PL2, and Merkaartor), it's my least favorite. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
Le 24/01/2011 00:25, Anthony a écrit : I'm not quite sure why, but I really don't like JOSM. Of the four main editors (others being PL1, PL2, and Merkaartor), it's my least favorite. I realy don't understand why. I use quite only JOSM with several layers (wms, gpx, pictures). It's easy for me to hide, show one layer, set transparency... They are handy drawing tools for making multipolygons, to get real rectangles, circles..., to merge nodes... I can open an url (relations, ways, XAPI...) I can open it from a link. I can save a layer... work on it with a text editor, open it, again in JOSM and send it... JOSM is becoming better and better. And it iswell translated. -- FrViPofm ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com wrote: Le 24/01/2011 00:25, Anthony a écrit : I'm not quite sure why, but I really don't like JOSM. Of the four main editors (others being PL1, PL2, and Merkaartor), it's my least favorite. I realy don't understand why. I don't either, but I think it's because it's java. And it's slow, eats up memory, and crashes (which I guess is redundant, as I've already said it's java). And the yahoo background image quality sucks. And the commands are non-intuitive. And last I checked (though this may no longer be true) the support for relations sucks. But there's something else about it that I just don't like, and I can't quite put my finger on it. I think it's just because it's java. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
Am 24.01.2011 02:19, schrieb Anthony: On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Vincent Pottiervpott...@gmail.com wrote: Le 24/01/2011 00:25, Anthony a écrit : I'm not quite sure why, but I really don't like JOSM. Of the four main editors (others being PL1, PL2, and Merkaartor), it's my least favorite. I realy don't understand why. I don't either, but I think it's because it's java. And it's slow, eats up memory, and crashes (which I guess is redundant, as I've already said it's java). And the yahoo background image quality sucks. And the commands are non-intuitive. And last I checked (though this may no longer be true) the support for relations sucks. But there's something else about it that I just don't like, and I can't quite put my finger on it. I think it's just because it's java. Please don't feed the troll ... Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Please don't feed the troll ... C'mon now, if I wanted to troll I would have talked shit about PL1. But in fact I like Potlatch. PL1 is by far my favorite of the 4. If only it had support for FOSM and USGS high res ortho, I probably wouldn't use anything else. I wonder if the issue might be that I use Windows. Do most JOSMers use Windows, or some other OS? I'm sure Java is especially sucky on Windows. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
If you think Java on Windows is bad, you should see Java on a BlackBerry Storm. It leaks memory badly enough that, if I am actively using the phone, I have to reboot it every hour to two hours due to running out of memory. RIM's API doesn't provide a way to track memory usage on a per-process basis, only a way to determine the total free memory system-wide. I plan to switch to an Android phone soon. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor From :mailto:o...@inbox.org Date :Sun Jan 23 20:10:22 America/Chicago 2011 On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Please don't feed the troll ... C'mon now, if I wanted to troll I would have talked shit about PL1. But in fact I like Potlatch. PL1 is by far my favorite of the 4. If only it had support for FOSM and USGS high res ortho, I probably wouldn't use anything else. I wonder if the issue might be that I use Windows. Do most JOSMers use Windows, or some other OS? I'm sure Java is especially sucky on Windows. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-map-based OSM editor
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Steve Bennett wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever made an OSM editor which is not map-based, for just editing tags on objects. http://rawedit.openstreetmap.fr/ Thanks! That does about half the job. My ideal tool would: a) Allow you to edit multiple objects at once (perhaps: http://rawedit.openstreetmap.fr/edit/relation/1317525057716530) b) Only show tags c) Show it in table form Still, definitely one to remember. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
