[OSM-talk] Has anyone cracked the code yet?
Over the last few months there have been lots of single-character note comments - initially in China and Russia, but recently more widespread (see for example http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/369774 ). The single-character comments seem to include cyrillic characters, which may suggest that they're related to the Russian-language "bridge detector" that adds notes such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1056574 , but it's difficult to see why someone's adding these note comments. Related, there's an issue raised over at github about the wider issue of allowing anonymous note comments https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/1543 (not specifically just these). Does anyone have any thoughts as to what benefit there might be to someone adding these? About the only thing that I can come up with is that it's an OSM API test - people clone a project and run it, and the result is these notes (a bit like the OsmApi "My First Test" nodes that keep appearing near "null island"). Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?
On 20/08/2017 11:36, djakk djakk wrote: Why I want to do that ? To improve openstreetmap, this is a worldwide map and the renderer can't be adapted by countries. Sure it can - it's perfectly possible for a render to use a location-sensitive rendering (I've just done it myself). Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service
On 15/10/2017 11:04, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Sunday 15 October 2017, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: [...] I was following up on the Christoph Hormann's idea of the "bot=no" tag, to "allow mappers to opt out of bot edits on a case-by-case basis." No, you were not, likely because you misunderstood my suggestion which is likely because you don't get how OpenStreetMap is working overall. I would strongly advise you to reconsider your whole approach to OpenStreetMap and to interacting with the OpenStreetMap community. Christoph, kindly explain, instead of making snide remarks. You have not added to the discussion, but instead raised the level of toxicity of this channel even further. Note that several people have already noted that this channel is toxic and refused to participate in it, rather than being productive and beneficial to everyone involved. I rest my case. Yuri, In English there is a common phrase "which part of *** do you not understand" (expletive removed because people offended by such words may be reading). This thread https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-October/thread.html#79145 currently has replies from 9 people. 1 is asking a question but all other replies are entirely negative (including comments such as "I'm appalled" and "that isn't acceptable behaviour"). Christoph Hormann's comment above is not a snide remark; it's entirely reasonable based on your actions so far - for an example of that see Tomas' reply earlier in the thread, or indeed almost any of the other interactions that you've had with the OSM community. Best Regards, Andu ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service
On 15/10/2017 13:04, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Andu, with all due respect, you are misrepresenting things. I have received praises on OSM-RU channel, and that's where I got my first bug reports and suggestions that were quickly fixed. The current mailing thread also received a praise from Steve. You did indeed receive one message in your favour - I miscounted. That's 1 in favour, 1 question (from someone who has been critical elsewhere) and 7 against. Maybe that counts as a majority in your favour in some places, but it doesn't here. At the same time, judging from the fact that someone did not feel comfortable emailing to the group, there seems to be significant toxicity and bullying going on. Your message to Christoph seems to be an attempt by you to do exactly that. People are telling you to stop; you need to stop. Any amount of dissembling by you won't change the facts. Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #379 2017-10-17-2017-10-23
On 28/10/2017 14:53, Blake Girardot wrote:
...
Please read his personal page on the wiki to understand his overall
goal and why to achieve it he has made a lot (like thousands) of
edits: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Verdy_p
I've read many, many screeds written by him over the last couple of
years, but they all come across as "never mind the quality, feel the
width". The text that Marcos Oliveira quoted further down the thread is
pretty typical; you could easily refute all of points raised one by one
("I've fixed them as soon as they were discovered", "I've been very
tolerant", "But seriously, if I ever made some temporary real mistake,
did I ever refuse to correct it? " etc.), but it'd be a waste of time;
communication simply would not occur - what he's written is just
self-deluding garbage. There are many, many times when he's been told
that his understanding of a particular issue doesn't match people who
are familiar with it in the real world; but he seems to lack the skills
to process that information.
...
I understand we can all be difficult to work with at times, and
sometimes some of us are hard to work with all the times.
Verdy, I urge you to slow down on the wiki editing,
That approach has been tried a number of times (including as I
understand it temporary bans from editing the wiki in the past). It
didn't work; that ship's sailed. The only thing that will work now is a
permanent ban.
...
And I urge us to keep trying to find a way to understand verdy's wiki
work and work with Verdy on the wiki. He seems to be making real,
important, needed improvements that will make the wiki much better in
the long term.
I see no evidence of this. The only edits I see (such as introducing
unnecessary layers of categories) are harmful to the documentation of
the OSM project as a whole.
My impression is that much of verdy's improvements are just difficult
to understand for non wikimedia experts, difficult to explain because
they are complicated.
If that's the case, then he's doing it wrong. Let's take a simple
example - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Derbyshire is supposed to
be useful to local mappers and it should be easy to navigate to
neighbouring counties. Unfortunately it isn't due to the categorisation
of English counties and the complete dogs breakfast that is
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Counties_in_England&action=history
(primary editor Verdy p ).
...
Verdy, I really wish it was easier to understand what you were doing
and it was easier to explain,
Clearly, if it isn't possible to understand what he's doing, then he's
not doing a good job, surely? Currently he's at 69 "contributions" so
far today, and they all seem entirely unrelated to documenting OSM as a
project.
I offered to intervene in the dispute involving the WeeklyOSM calendar;
but someone else had already been given the "mediator" job of trying to
sort things out. I wish them all the best, but if it doesn't work out
then I think a permanent ban is the only option.
Let's not forget what the wiki is for - it's supposed to document OSM;
to serve mappers. If it fails to do that - e.g. if people like Blake
fail to understand why edits are made - then it's failed.
Best Regards,
Andy
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Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service
On 09/11/2017 20:48, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: JB, the "layer=0 removal" is one of the JOSM validations - it automatically gets suggested to anyone editing an area with that object, with the "fix" button autofixing it. JOSM doesn't have a "mark this autofix as invalid" button, which means that even if you don't autofix it, the next person reviewing the same area may. This sounds identical to the issue raised by Simon above: > ...you don't actually "confirm" that something is a good edit or not. You only have the choice of making an edit or leaving it to others to do. ... This makes the whole thing entirely equivalent to a mechanical edit. So we should either A) remove it from JOSM, or B) define when it should be kept vs deleted, because otherwise we are not being consistent with requirements. No, the two aren't equivalent. In JOSM, validator suggestions are made after you've been editing in the area. Typically where "default tags" such as "layer=0" (or "oneway=no" for that matter) are used are in places where something's an exception (maybe this is the only cross-town two-way street) , or there's more information to be mapped (maybe there's something yet to be mapped over or under the "layer=0" way that's obvious from the context of the data in the area). All you're doing is blindly performing (or encouraging the performance of) mechanical edits, where the mapper has no knowledge of the local area. Ask yourself "in what way does removing layer=0 from a bunch of ways improve the quality of OpenStreetMap?". It certainly adds no valid data. It could potentially remove information (if there's a problem with something else also tagged layer=0 nearby that will be obvious to a user of an interactive editor from context). Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?
On 19/11/2017 20:59, Martijn van Exel wrote: For those who have used MapRoulette or at least have a good understanding of what it does: what would be the *one top thing* for you that would make it better? Most importantly, I'd try and make it a bit more obvious what it is. When you go to http://maproulette.org/ you see a map, some numbers, and not much else. There's a "sign in" button, but nothing explaining what benefits there are (to me or it) from doing so. Nothing says what the site is or what it is for. The only mention of OSM is in the attibution at the bottom right, and that says "CC-BY-SA". In addition: Pressing return in the search box doesn't do anything. What is presumably a settings icon at the right just displays some numbers but doesn't say what they are (e.g. "Total Tasks" - but what is a "Task"?) There's a button at the top left that just seems to refresh the screen. If I zoom in to a marker the "Edit" and "False Positive" buttons are greyed out, though oddly there are keyboard shortcuts for these. There are hard-coded options for a couple of OSM editors (though again oddly not a basic "edit" link). The "I fixed it" button produces a "Not Authorised" error. Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] What would make MapRoulette better?
On 24/11/2017 21:18, Dave F wrote: On 24/11/2017 07:59, joost schouppe wrote: For example, "Skipped" to me means "meh, didn't feel like doing this task". No! it's an option to ignore the task if the user doesn't think there's anything wrong. Maproulette is based on guesswork. A task doesn't mean there's an error that definitely needs fixing I presume the "false positive" button is for that (although as I've just noted in another reply, that doesn't seem to work for me). There appears to be a compulsion by users to complete tasks in Maproulette even when they have no *accurate* knowledge. This is wrong. It adds *erroneous* data to OSM. There's a clue to Maproulette's randomness & uncertainty in its name. I believe a good way to improve OSM data is to ban Maproulette. There are a number of these sorts of tools around, and to be honest (with a DWG hat on) I see fewer issues raised about Maproulette than, say people using HOT's tasking manager and not knowing what they are doing (not usually their fault - it's almost always due to not enough suitable training). Maybe people who use Maproulette have an idea of what OSM is and are already familiar with one or another editor and maybe that isn't true about some HOT mapping. The only recent Maproulette issue I can think of where dodgy POIs added via MAPS.ME had some extra "missing" tags added via Maproulette. The task in Maproulette should really have included "check that these things added by MAPS.ME users weren't mistaggings or just personal markers", but that's really something that should be in the task definition itself. There's a discussion about a general "form of words" over at https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette2/issues/348 - that, together with the availability of "false positive" and "skip" buttons should allow people to only contribute sensible data. Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New tool/API to find local OSM mailing lists by location
On 25/11/2017 19:18, joost schouppe wrote: That's really cool. What would it take to merge more sources in there? For example the main community e-mail address, their activities calendar, their riot/telegram/slack group? Maybe a structured wiki page could be the source? Firstly, it's a great idea... However, it's going to need more than just geographical information I think - for example for the Netherlands community I'd use the forum for contact rather than the talk-nl mailing list, whereas for IE/GB/UK it's the other way around. It'd also need people to be able to say e.g. "in $country we mostly use $other_service and you can contact us via ". Maybe it's possible to see how many posts in each list/forum have been made and see which is the one that people actually use? Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Spam/Report user
On 26/11/2017 22:11, Max wrote: There is only info on how to delete content by spammers. No way to bring users to the attention of admins other then comments of changesets. Hi, I've updated the three last sections with what I believe are currently the most effective ways of dealing with spam in those areas. For a bit more background on the work in progress on the third of these see https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/841 and https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/1576 but please note that this is a highly technical discussion of a work in progress; pitching into github just with comments such as "we need to do something about spam!!!" would be extremely unhelpful :) Best Regards, Andy (from the DWG, who deal with the first 2 of the 3 categories) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Planned rendering changes of protected areas
On 30/11/2017 13:46, Daniel Koć wrote: 1. Currently leisure=nature_reserve (old scheme) and boundary=* (new scheme) are frequently tagged in parallel, and it looks like the old scheme is used as a hack just to make it visible on default map. Just to chuck one example in - I've tagged lots of "leisure=nature_reserve" and almost no "boundary=protected_area; protect_class=XYZ". The reason is simple - nature reserves where I'm likely to be mapping often have a sign saying "XYZ nature reserve". There isn't going to be a sign helping me work out what "protect_class" in OSM it is, so that doesn't get mapped. It's also nothing to do with "what gets rendered"; I actually render my own maps and map quite a lot of stuff that isn't displayed there :) Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM maps that are accessible for the visually impaired
Someone's just asked a question over on the forum asking about "OSM maps that are accessible for the visually impaired" https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=676783#p676783 . I said I'd ask here as this list probably has a wider readership. Question from forum follows: "we are currently exploring whether there are any OSM based mapping apps that can be used by visually impaired users. We would like the visually impaired user to be able to interact with the map possibly (and very likely) in conjunction with Apple's Voiceover. Currently if I use Apple's Voiceover and other mapping applications such as Google maps or TripAdvisor, and if there are several POIs appearing as icons on the map, when using Voiceover to navigate these maps to find the POIs with my finger, none of the POIs are called out. So I am assuming these maps are not accessible for the visually impaired user. However, when using Apples Voice Over with Apple Maps, Voiceover will callout the POIs on the map. What I would to find out is whether anyone has created any mapping applications that are accessible and could do the following: When a user taps or selects a POI, Voiceover will read out information including how far the POI is from the user's current location." Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM maps that are accessible for the visually impaired
On 12/12/2017 14:28, john whelan wrote: Are you asking specifically for ones that run on Apple systems or would another operating system be acceptable? It's not actually me that's asking, so I can't add too much, but I suspect that the explicit mention of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VoiceOver suggests that Apple systems are what this particular person's interested in (though I don't know which ones - iOS, MacOS or whatever). An answer to the general question may well be useful to other people though. Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] AI With Satellite Images for OpenStreetMap
On 10/02/2018 20:52, john whelan wrote: My personal reaction is this is frightening. Already we have buildings mapped twice and unless the import is done very very carefully I can see problems ahead. This sort of thing has been tried before, with varying degrees of success. Facebook tried to import some "roads" in Egypt (for a bit of background see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41096427#map=11/29.9540/31.0432 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Chetan_Gowda/diary/39149 , and links from those). Much of it needed to be reverted, because quite a lot of "straight lines with colour differences" got interpreted as "residential roads" when they were actually walls or drainage ditches. The import in Thailand is discussed at https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=57942 , and there are still ongoing issues with the quality there (such as https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=684197#p684197 ). That last one https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/556830183 is a particularly interesting case because I suspect that many "experienced armchair mappers" would make the same mistake there - thinking that the road continues and not noticing the fence (visible on only 1 of the 3 available OSM imagery sources). I suspect that 99% of relatively inexperienced mapathon participants would make the same mistake. The jury's still out on the overall benefits of the Facebook Thailand work - see e.g. https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=684270#p684270 in that thread, but it's definitely worth mentioning some of the things that they got right there (in some cases, only after a bit of prodding): * Imported data clearly marked so that data consumers can process it differently if they wish, like JOSM does with raw TIGER data. * Engage in a dialogue with the local community in the local community's forum. * Mappers with OSM user pages that explain who they're working for and who (at least sometimes) do respond to changeset discussion comments. However, before we get carried away it's worth remembering that none of the examples on https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jremillard/diary/43294 are actually imports - they're things like QA and targetted Maproulette tasks. It's now up to the community to suggest use cases. If someone tries an undiscussed import without following the policy they should rightly be stopped as Facebook were in Egypt. Best Regards, Andy (from the DWG, but writing in a personal capacity) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Unify Mapping and wiki accounts? -- WAS: Vote cheating?
On 18/03/2018 19:45, Richard wrote: fundamental decission - maybe osm and osm-wiki accounts should be the same? Interestingly, there's recently been a suggestion on OSMF-talk about an "OSMF-owned engine for social surveys": https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2018-March/005106.html Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Undiscussed mass-revert by user Nakaner-repair
On 23/04/2018 03:40, Jack Armstrong dan...@sprynet.com wrote: I fully support the efforts of Nakaner. There are 6-8 users creating a mess in the Denver, Colorado area. What'd really help matters would be if local mappers could comment on changesets by new mappers (both "good" and "bad"). I see that someone's already commented on a couple of the "thousands of node additions" that you're presumably referring to here (if that was you - thanks!), but often locals are by far the best people to say "that doesn't look correct". See https://openstreetmap.org/changeset/57929974 for an example near me by one of the "organised" mappers that alerted GB and DE mappers to the problems there. See here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=5538075288#map=19/39.71967/-104.98736 That actually appears to be by a mapper using a different process (JOSM) but adding things in some of the same areas (LA, Denver) as the other group. Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Relation #2632934 is "killing" differential update
On 11/02/2019 10:59, Roland Olbricht wrote:
There must have happened something ugly at versions 99 and 106:
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/FYm
Thanks for that - yet again something useful in overpass-turbo ("make
stat") that I had no idea existed. Is there any documentation about it
anywhere? There is
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL#The_statement_make
, but that doesn't have any useful information or give any examples.
Best Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] History of specific areas
On 13/08/2015 07:22, Maarten Deen wrote: Is there a tool available to search for the history of items in a specific area? OSM History Viewer only works if you have the id of an object. I don't have the id for the node, I just know something was there and has been deleted at some point. If we were talking about ways, then Potlatch 1 would be the way to go, but that doesn't work with nodes. However, you can often get to where you need to by guessing something else that would have been added (or deleted) at the same time, finding the changeset, and finding the other thing that you're looking for there. Alternatively, someone may have a data extract for the date and area that you're interested in - but you'd need to say where and when that was, of course. If none of that works it'll there's the full history planet - see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/History_API_and_Database and the links from it (but that'll be a lot of work). Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Best base to build on ...
On 16/08/2015 01:46, Paul Norman wrote: ... The problem with Tilemill is that is is abandoned, and includes in-program text editing, which adds significant complexity to the codebase, and this text editing does not function with large complex styles. FWIW I've always used TileMill with an external editor. Usually it's pretty good after spotting a change to an externally edited file and rerenders accordingly. There are times when you need to stop and restart it to pick up changes (most obviously when a lua script changes that changes what's in the database), but they're fairly rare. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landcover=trees
On 15/08/2015 20:59, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: ... And then there are areas where actually trees grow, sometimes in a forest and sometimes elsewhere. That's where landcover trees seems appropriate for me. Maybe a diary entry explaining your point of view on this in detail would help here - specifically real-world examples of something that is "landcover=trees" but not "natural=wood", and what meaning you think "natural=wood" and "landuse=forest" have? Pictures you've taken of the areas would be really helpful too. FWIW when I looked at tree rendering (see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/diary/35220 ) I did look at the usage of landcover, with a view to incorporating it in the script the handles tree types there simply wasn't enough usage of it locally to even consider it (see http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/tags/landcover=trees ). Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landcover=trees
On 15/08/2015 21:42, Lester Caine wrote: My quick fix for any new rendering is simply to switch off 'farmland' so that the tree blocks it masks actually display. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/245442613 is an example of the problem, as are the adjacent areas to the right, while to the left the brown areas are the local farm yards and the majority of the remaining cover is farmland. trying to fill that with blocks of landcover is what seems wrong here ... For info, where are you seeing "tree blocks masked"? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/245442613 is the outer of http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3318454 , and all the osm.org renderers seem OK with it - the non-holes in the farmland render as such, and inners such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/244873970 have tags that render. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landcover=trees
On 16/08/2015 21:27, Lester Caine wrote: The tree areas that are within the farmland area are NOT now farmland and probably never were Can you point to a "tree area within farmland"? I couldn't see one when I had a quick look. It's slightly confusing because the multipolygon is pulling the landuse tag from the "outer", but it is a multipolygon. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] List of OSM-based services
On 23/08/2015 12:31, Andrew Hain wrote: As part of an article on the diversity of OSM-based mapping I’m looking to check if the list at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services is up to date, including sites and especially map styles that may not have been noted. A quick search for OSM-Carto map styles in github is https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=project+extension%3Amml&type=Code&ref=searchresults (originally suggested by Zverik in a Russian forum post) Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?
On 30/08/2015 10:34, Dave F. wrote: I'm looking for either a valid reason to keep it & if there is none, remove it. Poor/lazy wiki page design doesn't seem a valid one. Neither is giving irrelevant, baffling info to newbies. We're meant to be encouraging people to join in, not turn them away. It's a wiki. If you think you can improve it, do so. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] What3words
On 22/11/2015 12:51, Colin Smale wrote: ...and once again, as seems to be the norm in OSM, any minority interest which is not supported by the oligarchy gets mercilessly shot down. ... except it's not _just_ the "oligarchy", is it? No-one on this list seems to have a good word for the original idea. Cheers, Andy (SomeoneElse) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] RfD notification: Purge tag "priority" from tracks
On 08/04/2016 20:30, Paul Norman wrote: On 4/8/2016 7:14 AM, Roland Olbricht wrote: This constitutes a mechanical edit. Therefore, I would like to notify you that I have put a request for discussion on talk-transit@ . If you would like to discuss, please do so there. The talk-transit@ list is inactive, and not entirely relevant since railways are not just transit. Because you're only looking at items in the UK and Germany you're best off consulting with the local lists for those places. In the case of the UK the changeset (singular) seems to be https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26097829 . If the adder of that was to remove one of the tags that they and they only added to the ways in that changeset, I'm not even convinced that it would be a mechanical edit. Letting people know via talk-gb would still be a good idea though - and of course via the German forum for the German edits. On the more general subject of railway tagging, I'm confused (see the discussion on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/38327884 ) - but a discussion about "a German interpretation of UK non-standard railway infrastructure" is probably one for talk-GB as well. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Questionnaire
On 23/03/2019 10:16, Vincent Bergeot wrote: Le 23/03/2019 à 10:56, Daniela Šedlárová a écrit : Good day, My name ist Daniela and I´m a student of geography. Please fill out the questionnaire for my thesis. The It takes you about 10 minutes. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdSZIjLltmnYjQ40hkX6lto5-rydEOxPGVBf8rBlcgA4S2kXg/viewform?usp=sf_link please, not a google form :( for you thesis, ask your university a professionnal survey software Maybe that geography department will offer something when OSMF moves away from Google services for email :) Best Regards, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
