Re: [talk-au] Question - names of motorways leaving Sydney
What you have suggested seems good to me Mark. Regards, Michael H. On 7/09/2014 4:10 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: When the new alphanumeric route numbers in NSW were unveiled, some of the motorways were renamed (e.g. Sydney-Newcastle Freeway became Pacific Motorway, South-Western Motorway became Hume Motorway). In OSM these all have the new route number included in the road name (e.g. name=M4 Western Motorway, rather than name=Western Motorway). The signs on these roads don’t include the route number as part of the name. Does anyone object if I rename these roads without the route number (route number will remain in the ref=* tag)? Or is there a good reason for the route number to remain in the name tag? Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Redaction recovery
Hi Brian, Good have you on board Brian. Take a look at the Hume Hwy and M5 motorway if you get a chance. Both head south west out of Sydney. Regards, Michael On 24/07/2012 8:23 PM, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi All I can give assistance retracing roads from bing concentrating on motorways and primary roads - I've made a start in South Sydney. Let me know if there's anywhere more urgent. I map mostly in Birmingham UK wher we're now pretty complete and are mostly tracing buildings from bing and addressing which is slow tedious work - so this provides a bit of welcome relief. It also reminds me of my visit to Oz 4 years ago - might even revisit some favourite places virtually! Regards Brian ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Establishing Priorities on the Central Coast
Paul, I'll do a little bit around Woy Woy when I visit in a few weeks. Let me know if there is anything specific you need looked at. Regards, Michael On 25/07/2012 3:49 AM, Paul HAYDON wrote: SO, any takers interested in getting organised on the N.S.W. Central Coast? (For arguement's sake, let's call it Woy Woy to Swansea - unless someone has a preferred recommendation). ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Redaction progress
Good to hear Peter!! I've already noticed some great work happening around Sydney. Things are improving day by day. :) Just waiting for the bot to hit my local area now. Regards, Michael On 22/07/2012 5:22 PM, Peter Watson wrote: Hi Guys, I'm sticking around, based Brisbane South. I have been putting back some Highways from memory, Bing and AGRI, There is considerable damage to many towns in QLD. Mackay has been removed and I think Bundaberg and Maryborough have been decimated also. PeterW34 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Redaction progress
I'm staying too. Regards, Michael On 19/07/2012 8:45 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: On 19/07/2012, at 7:29 PM, waldo000...@gmail.com mailto:waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Wooh! Finally, with those little green boxes starting to appear over Australia, we can start to see the light at the end of the license change tunnel. Show of hands - Who's going to 1) stick around and help fix the Australian OSM map, and who's going to 2) jump ship and contribute to a fork (and if so, which one)? I'm planning to stick with OSM. Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Redaction progress
Looks like we lost Botany Bay!! Who's good at fix that? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.9929lon=151.1838zoom=13layers=M Regards, Michael On 19/07/2012 6:43 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Current state of affairs: - North America is mostly complete. The bot is still working in Los Angeles and Victoria (Canada). There are one or two failed or incomplete areas which are marked in red on the progress map; these are being retried individually. Haiti/Dominican Republic has been left out of this initial run to give a little more time for remapping. - Western Europe is also mostly complete. Some complex areas in Germany are still being processed. Redaction in Poland has paused after initially being processed with a whitelist missing (with the associated changes now reverted) and will resume as part of the final whole-world pass. - Belarus is complete. - Redaction is now underway in Australia, starting from the south coast. - Progress map link: http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/license-change/botprocessing.php Please edit the To: line and make sure any follow-ups go to the relevant local mailing list only. :) cheers Richard ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Redaction progress
It's a shame to lose so much data, but I've learnt that things are often done better the second time around. We'll be back on our feet in no time. Maybe we'll get those pesky roundabouts right. :) Regards, Michael On 19/07/2012 10:28 PM, Liz wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:22:37 +1000 Michael Hampson wrote: Looks like we lost Botany Bay!! Who's good at fix that? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.9929lon=151.1838zoom=13layers=M Regards, Michael I think you will see far more gone as the night progresses. More reassuring to watch le Tour de France. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Redaction progress
I second what Ian has just said. Is there anyway we can contact local Australian mappers to join the effort? There must be a lot of local inactive mappers out there that might respond. Regards, Michael On 20/07/2012 10:55 AM, Ian Sergeant wrote: Let's give it a few days, and come to terms with the effort we're facing and the kind of changes required before deciding the response we need. I'm not convinced that having features drawn in without local knowledge or survey is the necessarily the best way forward - especially in areas where we have local contributors and knowledge of the areas requiring remapping. So many private roads, farm trails, gates, fences, etc. However, I'd renew the call for experienced overseas armchair OSMers to take a look around and help in ways that don't require local knowledge. Lots of split objects, deformed coastline, waterways and other ways where nodes have been removed, etc, that anyone who would like to adopt an area can find easily and fix. Ian. On 20 July 2012 09:43, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch mailto:si...@poole.ch wrote: As all probably know we have two large areas where data had to be removed, Poland and Australia besides a number of smallish hotspots. I would think it would be a really good idea to set up a HOT tasking server (no idea about it inner workings and if it makes sense to do this all in one, or have two) for the coordination of our largish army of armchair mappers. Particularly in AUS were we have good quality imagery available this would seem to make a lot of sense. Any local takers? Or should I do it from here? SImon ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-legal-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process
What about those that haven't bothered to log in and accept or decline the new contributor terms? Looks they too have now been blocked from editing in Potlatch2. Regards, Michael Hampson On 15/06/2011 6:47 AM, John Smith wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Collinsonm...@ayeltd.biz Date: 15 June 2011 06:30 Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process To: Licensing and other legal discussions.legal-t...@openstreetmap.org As per the implementation plan [1], we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. This will mean that anyone who has explictly declined the new contributor terms will no longer be able to edit, (unless they decide to accept). This currently numbers 406 in total compared to over 191,000 who now contribute under the new terms. They or our forking folks may wish to grab a planet dump now and another one just before the phase 5 cut-over to ODbL. Planet dumps are generally made every Wednesday as of 11:01 UK time and become available 3 days later. Next week's version will probably be made on Tuesday due to the coming UCL shutdown. I would emphasise there is currently no need to remove data from the live database since the license is still CC-BY-SA. I believe there is no urgency to do so until acceptances have been maximised, local issues that have a near term solution have been addressed and there is a sense of community consensus that it is time. The License Working Group will continue listening to all feedback. Regards, Mike License Working Group [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Implementation_Plan ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors
On 7/04/2011 9:10 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 04:47:39 -0700 (PDT) All Blokesspeed_13...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I was very keen and learning ...had done a few edits not many but I was planning on getting right into it. I don't agree with the new licensing and have just been sitting on the side reading. It's sad that this is happening A vibrant aussie community has gone down the drain within the last 12 months. I have spent 3 1/2 years (nearly) adding big tracts of eastern australia to the osm map, and now think I will do something else with my spare time. I hear you Liz and All Blokes, it is sad. Really tried to ignore the politics as I just wanted to map things to help out the local community and since I heard about the changes I have almost given up. Now I only map when I can't help myself. Might be time to retire from my mapping and let someone else do the Empires work!! ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors ...
So is Phase 4 the end for those that don't agree? What happens to the data if we don't agree? and the data built on top of that data? I have read what I could about the new Contributor Terms and I get the drift about the CC-BY-SA and ODbL. Just not sure about the OSMF bit. Regards, Michael Hampson 0416 685 785 On 6/04/2011 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Collinsonm...@ayeltd.biz Date: 6 April 2011 19:08 Subject: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors ... To: d...@openstreetmap.org ... the License Working Group intends implementing Phase 3 of the license change implementation plan [1]. This involves blocking edits with HTTP Forbidden messages until the individual contributor has Accepted/Declined the new terms by logging in manually via browser at http://www.openstreetmap.org. The text of the message will explain the reason. This will happen Real Soon Now, I hope within the next few days. We will give at least 48 hours notice on the main Talk and other mailing lists of the exact date/time. Please would you check that your editor software has some mechanism for your users. For clarity: - This will only affect (77,000) contributors who registered before May 2010 and who have not accepted the new terms as part of the voluntary re-licensing program. - Once a contributor has Accepted/Declined the new terms, they may continue editting normally. Even if they decline, they may continue editting normally until and if Phase 4 kicks in. Mike Michael Collinson License Working Group [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Implementation_Plan#PHASE_3_-_Existing_Contributor_Mandatory_Re-licensing_.28Phase_2_.2B_5_or_10_weeks.29 ___ dev mailing list d...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence
This came through over night. Is it a standard mailer going out to all? Original Message Subject:[OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:09:39 +0100 From: wicking m-177534-5c8...@messages.openstreetmap.org To: mhamp...@fastmail.com.au Hi MCH, wicking has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject OpenStreetMap is changing the licence: == Hello MCH. As I’ve seen on http://odbl.de you’ve contributed quite a lot of data so I wanted to ask, if you already know, that OpenStreetMap is asking existing contributors to re-license their contributions under a new licence, which is more suitable for our data. (OSM wants to change the current Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 2.0 (CC-BY-SA 2.0) to Open Database License (OdbL) 1.0.) Maybe you’ve reasons why you did not accept it already. Perhaps you could tell me. You can read more about the licence change here: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/We_Are_Changing_The_License You can accept the new licence here (if you’re logged in): http://openstreetmap.org/user/terms I hope to hear from you. Erik from Berlin, Germany == You can also read the message at http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/177534 and you can reply at http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/177534 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] i presume university western sydney
Was down at Kingswood during the week and there is still work needed. The Tafe colleague next door hasn't been started. Regards, Michael Hampson 0416 685 785 On 4/02/2011 10:33 PM, Richard Colless wrote: On 4/02/2011 9:07 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Christian%20Nold/diary/12968 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au Correct, Elizabeth. Penrith is one of several campuses scattered around Sydney. The Penrith campus is here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.77151lon=150.74293zoom=15 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.77151lon=150.74293zoom=15 I would have thought it was already well mapped. Richard ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] NearMap
Hi All, Does anyone know if we have lost the use of NearMap as a background or is there an issue with Potlatch 1.4? Thanks, Michael Hampson Ph: 02 4739 4938 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NearMap
Thanks Emilie, Regards, Michael Hampson Ph: 02 4739 4938 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: On 15 September 2010 14:16, Michael Hampson mc.hamp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know if we have lost the use of NearMap as a background or is there an issue with Potlatch 1.4? Nearmap withdrew their support for the people using the new contributor terms. The OpenStreetMap foundation is currently working to resolve the issue with Nearmap. Such a discussion happened yesterday evening with Ben last Emilie Laffray ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] There is a new version of Nokia Sports Tracker and it uses OSM
Great news!! I never thought this would happen. Michael Hampson Ph: 02 4739 4938 On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Christoph Donges cdon...@gmail.com wrote: It's available on the ovi store for n97 and 5800 at least. I have used Sports Tracker on my old n95 for all my osm traces and now they are overlaying on the same maps that I helped create. How cool is that? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nearmap OSM data expanded
Most of the mountain villages along the Great Western Highway just west of Sydney are now included. Thanks Nearmap!! Michael Hampson Ph: 02 4739 4938 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:09 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 26 March 2010 10:40, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: John, if you're reading, what's the change for Aus shields? The images are based on cc-by-sa imagery from wikipedia or from OSM's wiki, so free... The OSM wiki has SVG images: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Custom_Highway_Shields#Australia Although there is some tourism images on that wiki page that the Qld government has replied to me yet if it's ok to use commercially or not, if they don't hurry up soon I'm just going to take high res photos of the signs and make my own SVG images... The actual images I'm using can be grabbed from here: http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/symbols/shield_national.png http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/symbols/shield_nh.png http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/symbols/shield_nr.png http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/symbols/shield_state.png http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/symbols/shield_tourism.png ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nearmap imagery now extends out to Katoomba in the Blue Mountains...
Thanks John, That's what happens when you get interrupted when sending and e-mail. Michael Hampson Ph: 02 4739 4938 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:45 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=44122101 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] A problem area (maybe) for the someone in Canberra
It might be this track. http://nobmob.com/rides/majurapines Regards, Michael Hampson Ph: 02 4739 4938 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:01 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 16 March 2010 13:34, Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is a single track mountain bike course about there somewhere... it has that look about it and it appears that the same track has been gone over twice in some places. In that case it might be best contacting who ever added this to OSM as they might be able to fix it up using GPS + nearmap... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Incorrectly expanding abbreviations
Banks statements have st.george as in the logo in the previous photo. It also has St.George in the text information section and St. George Bank Limited (with . and space) on the top right with their ABN etc. Regards, Michael Hampson Ph: 02 4739 4938 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, John Smith wrote: On 10 March 2010 22:24, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: If you are correcting the bank name, it is actually St.George - includes the full stop, but no spaces. Check their website. I'll have to find a branch locally and see what's on their signs... http://billiau.net/zoph/photo.php?photo_id=5505 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions
There are street names I have seen on Google that are wrong and I guess there are others if you went looking. (Don't mention the streets that just aren't there.) Regards, Michael On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:19 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/5 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Interesting. What strikes me about the street names thing is that in general, there's actually no way to prove it, other than by the person's own admission. Whereas with copyright breach in general, you can show a similarity between two expressions of an idea. But with streets, there is really only one way to express Thompson St. (Well, two if you count Street...) What if it isn't Thompson St? You just got caught copying. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions
Thanks All, The son needs to get his driving hours up, might be a good way to get some mapping done at the same time. Regards, Michael On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Michael Hampson wrote: Thanks Steve, Ok, I linked to the document directly via a Google search, and then didn't see the copyright at the bottom when I looked for that link to post. Might ring BMCC to see what data they have to share. Regards, Michael Write (snail mail, or email) and await a reply. Small rural councils have been very happy to share information with me. Liz ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW
Hi All, I edited this road a few days ago and it doesn't seem to have worked correctly. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.687934lon=150.548708zoom=18layers=B000FTFT Is there a problem with what I did or do I need to just wait a bit longer? Thanks, Michael ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW
Thanks John Liz, That fixed it and I now understand the issue. Re the mini roundabout. I will have a go at it, but I didn't want to touch it. Regards, Michael On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/4 Liz ed...@billiau.net: I think you either wait longer or add a /dirty tag to the end of the url. Please map the roundabout as a roundabout, not as one of those pesky mini- roundabout things, though. I'm trying to remember where it was, some where near Lismore but it had one of those UK roundabouts, one painted on the road... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions
While on this topic. Blue Mountains City Council have posted this document. It's not the best but a start, can it be copied as it lacks an copyright information that I can find? Select the first result, couldn't find the direct link. http://www.bmcc.nsw.gov.au/index.cfm?cx=018081763861296252136%3An58dywkggymcof=FORID%3A10ie=UTF-8q=Bike+Plan+2020sa=Searchs=C576E07E-3048-1075-63533E928C097BE8#1131 Thanks and Happy New Year to all, Michael On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:35 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/4 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com: I'm unclear about some issues concerning copyright. I'd like to put up a couple of scenarios and get opinions. Let's say that many roads in a town are mapped but unnamed in OSM. And street signs are missing. I go to the local tourist information place and start asking for names. They give me a photocopy of a street directory which shows all the Why don't you just go to the council, they should have their own list which they own copyright on and should be able to give you permission to use. Or just ring them up and ask them to email/fax you the list. Or you could go a step further and ask them for shape files of their streets :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Cheap data logger
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Thomas Sprinkmeier thomas.sprinkme...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 02:38 -0700, Delta Foxtrot wrote: After doing a fair bit of reading I came up with the following results: Globalsat DG-100 Chipset: SiRF StarIII cheapest found was $112 from http://www.expansys.com.au/d.aspx?i=149006 I paid a bit more: http://www.mapshop.net.au/gpslptps.htm#7 Pros * per second logging * 60,000 point memory Cons * doesn't record dulution of position * fragile housing * non-standard data access via windows only software, gpsbabel claims to be able to access it can, I do :-) http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-development/fmt_dg-100.html gpsbabel -t -i dg-100,erase -o gpx /dev/ttyUSB0 outputfile.gpx Thomas -- Trying to child-proof the world makes us neglect the more important task of world-proofing the child. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au At those kind of prices, I'd be happy to chip in and pay for two units for a GPS data logger pool if that helps. Michael PS I'm new to mailing lists so sorry if I get something out of sync. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au