Re: [talk-au] Question - names of motorways leaving Sydney

2014-09-10 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson

What you have suggested seems good to me Mark.

Regards,

Michael H.

On 7/09/2014 4:10 PM, Mark Pulley wrote:

When the new alphanumeric route numbers in NSW were unveiled, some of the 
motorways were renamed (e.g. Sydney-Newcastle Freeway became Pacific Motorway, 
South-Western Motorway became Hume Motorway).

In OSM these all have the new route number included in the road name (e.g. 
name=M4 Western Motorway, rather than name=Western Motorway).

The signs on these roads don’t include the route number as part of the name.

Does anyone object if I rename these roads without the route number (route 
number will remain in the ref=* tag)? Or is there a good reason for the route 
number to remain in the name tag?

Mark P.


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Re: [talk-au] Redaction recovery

2012-07-24 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson

Hi Brian,

Good have you on board Brian. Take a look at the Hume Hwy and M5 
motorway if you get a chance. Both head south west out of Sydney.


Regards,

Michael
On 24/07/2012 8:23 PM, Brian Prangle wrote:

Hi All

I can give assistance retracing roads from bing concentrating on 
motorways and primary roads - I've made a start in South Sydney. Let 
me know if there's anywhere more urgent. I map mostly in Birmingham UK 
wher we're now pretty complete and are mostly tracing buildings from 
bing and addressing which is slow tedious work - so this provides a 
bit of welcome relief. It also reminds me of my visit to Oz 4 years 
ago - might even revisit some favourite places virtually!


Regards

Brian


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Re: [talk-au] Establishing Priorities on the Central Coast

2012-07-24 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson

Paul,

I'll do a little bit around Woy Woy when I visit in a few weeks. Let me 
know if there is anything specific you need looked at.


Regards,

Michael
On 25/07/2012 3:49 AM, Paul HAYDON wrote:

SO, any takers interested in getting organised on the N.S.W. Central Coast?  
(For arguement's sake, let's call it Woy Woy to Swansea - unless someone has a 
preferred recommendation).


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Re: [talk-au] Redaction progress

2012-07-22 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson

Good to hear Peter!!

I've already noticed some great work happening around Sydney. Things are 
improving day by day. :)


Just waiting for the bot to hit my local area now.

Regards,

Michael
On 22/07/2012 5:22 PM, Peter Watson wrote:

Hi Guys,
I'm sticking around, based Brisbane South. I have been putting back 
some Highways from memory, Bing and AGRI, There is considerable damage 
to many towns in QLD. Mackay has been removed and I think Bundaberg 
and Maryborough have been decimated also.

PeterW34


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Re: [talk-au] Redaction progress

2012-07-19 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson

I'm staying too.

Regards,

Michael
On 19/07/2012 8:45 PM, Mark Pulley wrote:
On 19/07/2012, at 7:29 PM, waldo000...@gmail.com 
mailto:waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:


Wooh! Finally, with those little green boxes starting to appear over 
Australia, we can start to see the light at the end of the license 
change tunnel.


Show of hands - Who's going to 1) stick around and help fix 
the Australian OSM map, and who's going to 2) jump ship and 
contribute to a fork (and if so, which one)?



I'm planning to stick with OSM.


Mark P.




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Re: [talk-au] Redaction progress

2012-07-19 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson

Looks like we lost Botany Bay!! Who's good at fix that?

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.9929lon=151.1838zoom=13layers=M

Regards,

Michael
On 19/07/2012 6:43 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

Current state of affairs:

- North America is mostly complete. The bot is still working in Los 
Angeles and Victoria (Canada). There are one or two failed or 
incomplete areas which are marked in red on the progress map; these 
are being retried individually. Haiti/Dominican Republic has been left 
out of this initial run to give a little more time for remapping.


- Western Europe is also mostly complete. Some complex areas in 
Germany are still being processed. Redaction in Poland has paused 
after initially being processed with a whitelist missing (with the 
associated changes now reverted) and will resume as part of the final 
whole-world pass.


- Belarus is complete.

- Redaction is now underway in Australia, starting from the south coast.

- Progress map link:
http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/license-change/botprocessing.php

Please edit the To: line and make sure any follow-ups go to the 
relevant local mailing list only. :)


cheers
Richard


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Re: [talk-au] Redaction progress

2012-07-19 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
It's a shame to lose so much data, but I've learnt that things are often 
done better the second time around. We'll be back on our feet in no time.


Maybe we'll get those pesky roundabouts right. :)

Regards,

Michael
On 19/07/2012 10:28 PM, Liz wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:22:37 +1000
Michael Hampson wrote:


Looks like we lost Botany Bay!! Who's good at fix that?

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.9929lon=151.1838zoom=13layers=M

Regards,

Michael

I think you will see far more gone as the night progresses.
More reassuring to watch le Tour de France.


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Re: [talk-au] Redaction progress

2012-07-19 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson

I second what Ian has just said.

Is there anyway we can contact local Australian mappers to join the 
effort? There must be a lot of local inactive mappers out there that 
might respond.


Regards,

Michael
On 20/07/2012 10:55 AM, Ian Sergeant wrote:
Let's give it a few days, and come to terms with the effort we're 
facing and the kind of changes required before deciding the response 
we need.  I'm not convinced that having features drawn in without 
local knowledge or survey is the necessarily the best way forward - 
especially in areas where we have local contributors and knowledge of 
the areas requiring remapping.  So many private roads, farm trails, 
gates, fences, etc.


However, I'd renew the call for experienced overseas armchair OSMers 
to take a look around and help in ways that don't require local 
knowledge.  Lots of split objects, deformed coastline, waterways and 
other ways where nodes have been removed, etc, that anyone who would 
like to adopt an area can find easily and fix.


Ian.

On 20 July 2012 09:43, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch 
mailto:si...@poole.ch wrote:




As all probably know we have two large areas where data had to be
removed, Poland and Australia besides a number of smallish hotspots.

I would think it would be a really good idea to set up a HOT tasking
server (no idea about it inner workings and if it makes sense to
do this
all in one, or have two) for the coordination of our largish army of
armchair mappers. Particularly in AUS were we have good quality
imagery
available this would seem to make a lot of sense. Any local takers? Or
should I do it from here?

SImon


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Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-legal-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-20 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
What about those that haven't bothered to log in and accept or decline 
the new contributor terms?


Looks they too have now been blocked from editing in Potlatch2.

Regards,

Michael Hampson

On 15/06/2011 6:47 AM, John Smith wrote:

-- Forwarded message --
From: Michael Collinsonm...@ayeltd.biz
Date: 15 June 2011 06:30
Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license
change process
To: Licensing and other legal discussions.legal-t...@openstreetmap.org


As per the implementation plan [1], we intend to move to phase 4 this
Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. This
will mean that anyone who has explictly declined the new contributor
terms will no longer be able to edit, (unless they  decide to accept).
  This currently numbers 406 in total compared to over 191,000 who now
contribute under the new terms. They or our forking folks may wish to
grab a planet dump now and another one just before the phase 5
cut-over to ODbL. Planet dumps are generally made every Wednesday as
of 11:01 UK time and become available 3 days later. Next week's
version will probably be made on Tuesday due to the coming UCL
shutdown.

I would emphasise there is currently no need to remove data from the
live database since the license is still CC-BY-SA. I believe there is
no urgency to do so until acceptances have been maximised, local
issues that have a near term solution have been addressed and there is
a sense of community consensus that it is time. The License Working
Group will continue listening to all feedback.

Regards,
Mike
License Working Group

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Implementation_Plan

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Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors

2011-04-07 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson

On 7/04/2011 9:10 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 04:47:39 -0700 (PDT)
All Blokesspeed_13...@yahoo.com.au  wrote:


I was very keen and learning ...had done a few edits not many
but I was planning on getting right into it.

I don't agree with the new licensing and have just been sitting on
the side reading.


It's sad that this is happening
A vibrant aussie community has gone down the drain within the last 12
months.
I have spent 3 1/2 years (nearly) adding big tracts of eastern
australia to the osm map, and now think I will do something else with
my spare time.



I hear you Liz and All Blokes, it is sad. Really tried to ignore the 
politics as I just wanted to map things to help out the local community 
and since I heard about the changes I have almost given up. Now I only 
map when I can't help myself.


Might be time to retire from my mapping and let someone else do the 
Empires work!!
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Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors ...

2011-04-06 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
So is Phase 4 the end for those that don't agree? What happens to the 
data if we don't agree? and the data built on top of that data?


I have read what I could about the new Contributor Terms and I get the 
drift about the CC-BY-SA and ODbL. Just not sure about the OSMF bit.


Regards,

Michael Hampson
0416 685 785

On 6/04/2011 7:31 PM, John Smith wrote:

-- Forwarded message --
From: Michael Collinsonm...@ayeltd.biz
Date: 6 April 2011 19:08
Subject: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors ...
To: d...@openstreetmap.org


... the License Working Group intends implementing Phase 3 of the
license change implementation plan [1]. This involves blocking edits
with HTTP Forbidden messages until the individual contributor has
Accepted/Declined the new terms by logging in manually via browser at
http://www.openstreetmap.org. The text of the message will explain the
reason. This will happen Real Soon Now, I hope within the next few
days. We will give at least 48 hours notice on the main Talk and other
mailing lists of the exact date/time.

Please would you check that your editor software has some mechanism
for your users.

For clarity:

- This will only affect (77,000) contributors who registered before
May 2010 and who have not accepted the new terms as part of the
voluntary re-licensing program.

- Once a contributor has Accepted/Declined the new terms, they may
continue editting normally.  Even if they decline, they may continue
editting normally until and if Phase 4 kicks in.

Mike

Michael Collinson
License Working Group


[1] 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Implementation_Plan#PHASE_3_-_Existing_Contributor_Mandatory_Re-licensing_.28Phase_2_.2B_5_or_10_weeks.29

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[talk-au] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence

2011-04-06 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson

This came through over night.

Is it a standard mailer going out to all?


 Original Message 
Subject:[OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence
Date:   Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:09:39 +0100
From:   wicking m-177534-5c8...@messages.openstreetmap.org
To: mhamp...@fastmail.com.au



Hi MCH,

wicking has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject 
OpenStreetMap is changing the licence:

==
Hello MCH.

As I’ve seen on http://odbl.de you’ve contributed quite a lot of data so I 
wanted to ask, if you already know, that OpenStreetMap is asking existing 
contributors to re-license their contributions under a new licence, which is 
more suitable for our data. (OSM wants to change the current Creative Commons 
Attribution Share-Alike 2.0 (CC-BY-SA 2.0) to Open Database License (OdbL) 1.0.)

Maybe you’ve reasons why you did not accept it already. Perhaps you could tell 
me.

You can read more about the licence change here: 
http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/We_Are_Changing_The_License

You can accept the new licence here (if you’re logged in): 
http://openstreetmap.org/user/terms

I hope to hear from you.
Erik from Berlin, Germany
==

You can also read the message at 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/177534
and you can reply at http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/177534

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Re: [talk-au] i presume university western sydney

2011-02-04 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
Was down at Kingswood during the week and there is still work needed. 
The Tafe colleague next door hasn't been started.


Regards,

Michael Hampson
0416 685 785

On 4/02/2011 10:33 PM, Richard Colless wrote:



On 4/02/2011 9:07 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Christian%20Nold/diary/12968

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Correct, Elizabeth. Penrith is one of several campuses scattered 
around Sydney. The Penrith campus is here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.77151lon=150.74293zoom=15 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.77151lon=150.74293zoom=15


I would have thought it was already well mapped.

Richard

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[talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
Hi All,

Does anyone know if we have lost the use of NearMap as a background or is
there an issue with Potlatch 1.4?

Thanks,

Michael Hampson
Ph: 02 4739 4938
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Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-09-15 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
Thanks Emilie,

Regards,

Michael Hampson
Ph: 02 4739 4938


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Emilie Laffray
emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote:



 On 15 September 2010 14:16, Michael Hampson mc.hamp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 Does anyone know if we have lost the use of NearMap as a background or is
 there an issue with Potlatch 1.4?


 Nearmap withdrew their support for the people using the new contributor
 terms. The OpenStreetMap foundation is currently working to resolve the
 issue with Nearmap. Such a discussion happened yesterday evening with Ben
 last

 Emilie Laffray

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Re: [talk-au] There is a new version of Nokia Sports Tracker and it uses OSM

2010-04-20 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
Great news!! I never thought this would happen.

Michael Hampson
Ph: 02 4739 4938


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Christoph Donges cdon...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's available on the ovi store for n97 and 5800 at least.

 I have used Sports Tracker on my old n95 for all my osm traces and now they
 are overlaying on the same maps that I helped create.  How cool is that?

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Re: [talk-au] Nearmap OSM data expanded

2010-03-25 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
Most of the mountain villages along the Great Western Highway just west of
Sydney are now included.

Thanks Nearmap!!

Michael Hampson
Ph: 02 4739 4938


On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:09 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 26 March 2010 10:40, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
  John, if you're reading, what's the change for Aus shields?

 The images are based on cc-by-sa imagery from wikipedia or from OSM's
 wiki, so free...

 The OSM wiki has SVG images:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Custom_Highway_Shields#Australia

 Although there is some tourism images on that wiki page that the Qld
 government has replied to me yet if it's ok to use commercially or
 not, if they don't hurry up soon I'm just going to take high res
 photos of the signs and make my own SVG images...

 The actual images I'm using can be grabbed from here:

 http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/symbols/shield_national.png
 http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/symbols/shield_nh.png
 http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/symbols/shield_nr.png
 http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/symbols/shield_state.png
 http://map-data.bigtincan.com/data/symbols/shield_tourism.png

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Re: [talk-au] Nearmap imagery now extends out to Katoomba in the Blue Mountains...

2010-03-25 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
Thanks John,

That's what happens when you get interrupted when sending and e-mail.

Michael Hampson
Ph: 02 4739 4938


On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:45 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=44122101

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Re: [talk-au] A problem area (maybe) for the someone in Canberra

2010-03-15 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
It might be this track.

http://nobmob.com/rides/majurapines

Regards,

Michael Hampson
Ph: 02 4739 4938


On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:01 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 16 March 2010 13:34, Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
  I think there is a single track mountain bike course about there
  somewhere... it has that look about it and it appears that the same
  track has been gone over twice in some places.

 In that case it might be best contacting who ever added this to OSM as
 they might be able to fix it up using GPS + nearmap...

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Re: [talk-au] Incorrectly expanding abbreviations

2010-03-10 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
Banks statements have st.george as in the logo in the previous photo. It
also has St.George in the text information section and St. George Bank
Limited (with . and space) on the top right with their ABN etc.

Regards,

Michael Hampson
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:

 On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, John Smith wrote:
  On 10 March 2010 22:24, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote:
   If you are correcting the bank name, it is actually St.George -
   includes the full stop, but no spaces. Check their website.
 
  I'll have to find a branch locally and see what's on their signs...
 


 http://billiau.net/zoph/photo.php?photo_id=5505

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Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-05 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
There are street names I have seen on Google that are wrong and I guess
there are others if you went looking. (Don't mention the streets that just
aren't there.)

Regards,

Michael


On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:19 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:

 2010/1/5 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
  Interesting. What strikes me about the street names thing is that in
  general, there's actually no way to prove it, other than by the person's
 own
  admission. Whereas with copyright breach in general, you can show a
  similarity between two expressions of an idea. But with streets, there is
  really only one way to express Thompson St. (Well, two if you count
  Street...)

 What if it isn't Thompson St? You just got caught copying.

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Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-04 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
Thanks All,

The son needs to get his driving hours up, might be a good way to get some
mapping done at the same time.

Regards,

Michael


On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:

 On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Michael Hampson wrote:
  Thanks Steve,
 
  Ok, I linked to the document directly via a Google search, and then
 didn't
  see the copyright at the bottom when I looked for that link to post.
 
  Might ring BMCC to see what data they have to share.
 
  Regards,
 
  Michael
 
 Write (snail mail, or email) and await a reply. Small rural councils have
 been
 very happy to share information with me.
 Liz

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[talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-04 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
Hi All,

I edited this road a few days ago and it doesn't seem to have worked
correctly.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.687934lon=150.548708zoom=18layers=B000FTFT

Is there a problem with what I did or do I need to just wait a bit longer?

Thanks,

Michael
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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-04 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
Thanks John  Liz,

That fixed it and I now understand the issue.

Re the mini roundabout. I will have a go at it, but I didn't want to touch
it.

Regards,

Michael


On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:

 2010/1/4 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
  I think you either wait longer or add a /dirty tag to the end of the url.
  Please map the roundabout as a roundabout, not as one of those pesky
 mini-
  roundabout things, though.

 I'm trying to remember where it was, some where near Lismore but it
 had one of those UK roundabouts, one painted on the road...

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Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-03 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
While on this topic.

Blue Mountains City Council have posted this document. It's not the best but
a start, can it be copied as it lacks an copyright information that I can
find?

Select the first result, couldn't find the direct link.
http://www.bmcc.nsw.gov.au/index.cfm?cx=018081763861296252136%3An58dywkggymcof=FORID%3A10ie=UTF-8q=Bike+Plan+2020sa=Searchs=C576E07E-3048-1075-63533E928C097BE8#1131

Thanks and Happy New Year to all,

Michael


On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:35 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:

 2010/1/4 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com:
  I'm unclear about some issues concerning copyright.  I'd like to put up
  a couple of scenarios and get opinions.
 
  Let's say that many roads in a town are mapped but unnamed in OSM.  And
  street signs are missing.
 
  I go to the local tourist information place and start asking for names.
   They give me a photocopy of a street directory which shows all the

 Why don't you just go to the council, they should have their own list
 which they own copyright on and should be able to give you permission
 to use. Or just ring them up and ask them to email/fax you the list.

 Or you could go a step further and ask them for shape files of their
 streets :)

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Re: [talk-au] Cheap data logger

2009-05-29 Diskussionsfäden Michael Hampson
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Thomas Sprinkmeier 
thomas.sprinkme...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 02:38 -0700, Delta Foxtrot wrote:
  After doing a fair bit of reading I came up with the following results:
 
  Globalsat DG-100
  Chipset: SiRF StarIII
  cheapest found was $112 from http://www.expansys.com.au/d.aspx?i=149006

 I paid a bit more:
 http://www.mapshop.net.au/gpslptps.htm#7

  Pros
  * per second logging
  * 60,000 point memory
  Cons
  * doesn't record dulution of position
  * fragile housing
  * non-standard data access via windows only software, gpsbabel claims to
 be able to access

 it can, I do :-)
 http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-development/fmt_dg-100.html

 gpsbabel -t -i dg-100,erase -o gpx /dev/ttyUSB0 outputfile.gpx


 Thomas

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At those kind of prices, I'd be happy to chip in and pay for two units for a
GPS data logger pool if that helps.

Michael

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