Re: [talk-au] Generating good looking PDF/SVG maps?
And don't forget the team @ KDE Marble Desktop, has the ability to save PNG at any map view. The linux version also uses the CycleMap :-) On 6/18/10, Sam Vekemans wrote: > Its on my list to set up an OpenOfficeDraw template where all you need > todo is to copy the pdf from walking-papers.org and paste it into the > document, and move it to the bottom layer. Then edit the title and the > legend and the POI list to suit the area. > > I know that doesnt help you today, but there are people working on it :) > > Every printed map, needs to have some manual creative work done on it. > > The technology from Open Orienteeringmap is close, but it doesnt > support mapnik. And hikebikemap.de has a great rendering, but isnt on > walking-papers.org, nor OpenOrienteeringmap > > Its also on maposmatic's list to get a proper legend, as well as > maperitive. > > inkscape allows for svg opening & saving it as a Oo file, to break > apart and easily manipulate the map. > > Cheers, > Sam > > On 6/18/10, John Smith wrote: >> On 19 June 2010 09:30, Ben Kelley wrote: >>> The export from the OSM web site only exports the rendering of the main >>> street map layer (from a PDF or SVG point of view). >> >> The only other code I know about is this: >> >> http://www.mappage.org/atlas/ >> >> But you have to setup your own rendering system and that would be a >> show stopper for most people. >> >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> > > > -- > Twitter: @Acrosscanada > Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ > http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans > Skype: samvekemans > IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) > @Acrosscanadatrails > -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Generating good looking PDF/SVG maps?
Its on my list to set up an OpenOfficeDraw template where all you need todo is to copy the pdf from walking-papers.org and paste it into the document, and move it to the bottom layer. Then edit the title and the legend and the POI list to suit the area. I know that doesnt help you today, but there are people working on it :) Every printed map, needs to have some manual creative work done on it. The technology from Open Orienteeringmap is close, but it doesnt support mapnik. And hikebikemap.de has a great rendering, but isnt on walking-papers.org, nor OpenOrienteeringmap Its also on maposmatic's list to get a proper legend, as well as maperitive. inkscape allows for svg opening & saving it as a Oo file, to break apart and easily manipulate the map. Cheers, Sam On 6/18/10, John Smith wrote: > On 19 June 2010 09:30, Ben Kelley wrote: >> The export from the OSM web site only exports the rendering of the main >> street map layer (from a PDF or SVG point of view). > > The only other code I know about is this: > > http://www.mappage.org/atlas/ > > But you have to setup your own rendering system and that would be a > show stopper for most people. > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?
Does anyone know of better source of DEM files than the SRTM files NASA offers? The server was upgraded this morning and while most data for Australia is still being imported into the DB, NZ data has already finished processing and I noticed gaps in the data: http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=14&ll=-43.595,170.143&layer=BFTFF ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Attributing points and/or areas
On 19 June 2010 10:03, Roy Wallace wrote: > Within the GPS software - yes. Within the OSM database - no. That's what I actually meant, within pre-processing software, not in the OSM DB... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Attributing points and/or areas
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:20 AM, John Smith wrote: > On 19 June 2010 07:12, Roy Wallace wrote: >>> With my GPS hat on I'd say attribute the polygon as amenity=fuel but leave >>> the point and all its attributes so it shows up on the GPS as a POI. >> >> IMHO that's mapping for the GPS, i.e. bad. > > If a point is needed, the same thing could be achieved by making a > point from the centre location of the area. Within the GPS software - yes. Within the OSM database - no. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Generating good looking PDF/SVG maps?
On 19 June 2010 09:30, Ben Kelley wrote: > The export from the OSM web site only exports the rendering of the main > street map layer (from a PDF or SVG point of view). The only other code I know about is this: http://www.mappage.org/atlas/ But you have to setup your own rendering system and that would be a show stopper for most people. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Generating good looking PDF/SVG maps?
Hi. Yes, as I said, like what maposmatic does. :) I have had a bit of a look at their code. It seems to use Mapnik under the covers. I was hoping for something that was a bit more accessible than hacking the maposmatic code. I like the grid it creates though, and the index. It's probably a good starting point. The export from the OSM web site only exports the rendering of the main street map layer (from a PDF or SVG point of view). - Ben. On 17 June 2010 06:54, Liz wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010, Ben Kelley wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Does anyone have any pointers for generating high quality PDF or SVG maps > > (suitable for printing)? > > > > I have a couple of use cases in mind: > > > > * My other half would love a large (e.g. A0 size) printed street map. I > > have found places that can print that size from PDF, but I'm not sure how > > to generate the file. > > > > * It would be handy to be able to make a printed map for the BUG (Bicycle > > User's Group) I'm in (and presumably others). A straight OSM->PDF process > > would work in some situations (like what mapsomatic does, but with the > > cycle map rendering rules). For others SVG would be better (so the > > resulting map can be enhanced). > > > > My current thinking is that Mapnik would be the best tool for this. > > > > Does anyone know of some step-by-step instructions that would help with > > this? > > > > - Ben. > Have you looked at http://www.maposmatic.org/ > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com http://www.users.on.net/~bhkelley/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Attributing points and/or areas
On 19 June 2010 07:12, Roy Wallace wrote: >> With my GPS hat on I'd say attribute the polygon as amenity=fuel but leave >> the point and all its attributes so it shows up on the GPS as a POI. > > IMHO that's mapping for the GPS, i.e. bad. If a point is needed, the same thing could be achieved by making a point from the centre location of the area. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Attributing points and/or areas
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Craig Feuerherdt wrote: > > Thinking from an OSM perspective I'd say move all the attributes from the > point to the polygon and delete the point. That's what I do. > With my GPS hat on I'd say attribute the polygon as amenity=fuel but leave > the point and all its attributes so it shows up on the GPS as a POI. IMHO that's mapping for the GPS, i.e. bad. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:47 PM, James Livingston wrote: > > In particular, anything of class 4 and above can vary a lot. There are tracks > which probably aren't rated but if they were would be Class 6 that I'd be > happy to go on for an afternoon walk by myself, and there are Class 4 tracks > that I would never consider going on without preparation and other people. This is the problem with using broad, subjective tags. I personally don't think it's worth spending time trying to come up with a better way to describe these concepts than the Australian Standard... :P But you're right, for un-rated tracks it would be nice to be able to tag something - I would suggest either: class:as2156=unrated (if unrated tracks are always more difficult), and/or class:as2156:equivalent=[1-6], or class:as2156=[1-6] + source:class:as2156=estimate. > I was fixing some of the tracks in the Noosa Headlands park recently, and > have a photo of the map board showing their classes. Does anyone have tagging > suggestions? I'm thinking something like track:as2156=* or class:as2156=* or > something would be good. I think class:as2156=[1-6]. It should not be "track", because we are not saying, e.g. "the track is 3", but rather "the class is 3". ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Attributing points and/or areas
Wiki sort of suggests your GPS hat is correct, leave the node as it is, map the building and concourse, then map with building=yes or surface=paved and highway=service. Also, do you have highway=service ways leading from the road to the concourse driveways? You can also tag the building entrance too, if you know that detail. David On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:33 +1000, Craig Feuerherdt wrote: > I am starting to map landuse areas across Bendigo. I am wondering what > to do when (for instance) a petrol station has been mapped as a point > with all the attributes attached. I have now mapped the polygon > representing the actual area of the petrol station. Which attribute(s) > should go on which feature? Should both feature (point and polygon) be > kept? > > Thinking from an OSM perspective I'd say move all the attributes from > the point to the polygon and delete the point. > With my GPS hat on I'd say attribute the polygon as amenity=fuel but > leave the point and all its attributes so it shows up on the GPS as a > POI. > > Is there a general consensus on what to do? > This same scenario arises with pubs, restaurants etc > > Cheers, > > Craig > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Attributing points and/or areas
I am starting to map landuse areas across Bendigo. I am wondering what to do when (for instance) a petrol station has been mapped as a point with all the attributes attached. I have now mapped the polygon representing the actual area of the petrol station. Which attribute(s) should go on which feature? Should both feature (point and polygon) be kept? Thinking from an OSM perspective I'd say move all the attributes from the point to the polygon and delete the point. With my GPS hat on I'd say attribute the polygon as amenity=fuel but leave the point and all its attributes so it shows up on the GPS as a POI. Is there a general consensus on what to do? This same scenario arises with pubs, restaurants etc Cheers, Craig ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?
On 17/06/2010, at 1:49 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: > Try Australian Standard AS 2156.1-2001 (Walking tracks - > Classification and signage) > http://infostore.saiglobal.com/store2/Details.aspx?ProductID=260163 > (not free, but try e.g. the following page for some details: > http://hikingbackpacking.suite101.com/article.cfm/australian_bushwalking_track_classifications) The AS2156 class is useful information, and tagging it would be good if we know it, but it's not exactly a difficulty rating. I haven't actually read the standard, but I believe it has to do with track construction and maintenance. For example a Class 2 track has to be a certain minimum width, have certain signage, be a certain smoothness, have people clear off any debris so often and the like. Obviously higher classes tend to be more difficult, but it's not directly related. In particular, anything of class 4 and above can vary a lot. There are tracks which probably aren't rated but if they were would be Class 6 that I'd be happy to go on for an afternoon walk by myself, and there are Class 4 tracks that I would never consider going on without preparation and other people. I was fixing some of the tracks in the Noosa Headlands park recently, and have a photo of the map board showing their classes. Does anyone have tagging suggestions? I'm thinking something like track:as2156=* or class:as2156=* or something would be good. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
