[talk-au] i presume university western sydney

2011-02-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Christian%20Nold/diary/12968

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Re: [talk-au] i presume university western sydney

2011-02-04 Thread Richard Colless



On 4/02/2011 9:07 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Christian%20Nold/diary/12968

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Correct, Elizabeth. Penrith is one of several campuses scattered around 
Sydney. The Penrith campus is here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.77151lon=150.74293zoom=15 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.77151lon=150.74293zoom=15


I would have thought it was already well mapped.

Richard

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Re: [talk-au] i presume university western sydney

2011-02-04 Thread Michael Hampson
Was down at Kingswood during the week and there is still work needed. 
The Tafe colleague next door hasn't been started.


Regards,

Michael Hampson
0416 685 785

On 4/02/2011 10:33 PM, Richard Colless wrote:



On 4/02/2011 9:07 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Christian%20Nold/diary/12968

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Correct, Elizabeth. Penrith is one of several campuses scattered 
around Sydney. The Penrith campus is here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.77151lon=150.74293zoom=15 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.77151lon=150.74293zoom=15


I would have thought it was already well mapped.

Richard

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Re: [talk-au] Relicensing per changeset?

2011-02-04 Thread Andrew Gregory
On 3 February 2011 08:38, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 3 February 2011 09:28, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
  I also wonder how this works, using your example, if the user had
  entered street names and then another user came along and fixed a
  spelling mistake in one which they had surveyed themselves.  When the
  changeset is relicenced, you have v1 of an object under a non-compatible
  licence, and v2 is compatible, so what happens to the object?

 It goes away.  All objects get rolled back to the last valid state
 that have no unlicensed edits before them.  So any object where v1 is
 unlicensed is gone, no matter how many changes have been done to it
 since.


Surely that can't be correct? For example, I've surveyed an awful lot of the
Perth northern suburbs, but I started off by tracing Nearmap imagery. My
understanding is that Nearmap haven't agreed to the new licensing but
nevertheless I've since personally surveyed the streets, corrected
alignments, added names and changed source=nearmap to source=survey.

I would understand if data and records of the original source=nearmap
disappeared with the license change, but the subsequent source=survey
edits would be able to be kept? Dropping data simply because at one time it
was in an incompatible-license state but is now no longer sounds incredibly
destructive to me.

Is what's going to happen documented anywhere? I've had a poke around the
wiki, but can't see anything relevant to how the data is being handled.

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Andrew
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Re: [talk-au] Relicensing per changeset?

2011-02-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:30:47 +0800
Andrew Gregory andrew.greg...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 3 February 2011 08:38, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 3 February 2011 09:28, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au
  wrote:
   I also wonder how this works, using your example, if the user had
   entered street names and then another user came along and fixed a
   spelling mistake in one which they had surveyed themselves.  When
   the changeset is relicenced, you have v1 of an object under a
   non-compatible licence, and v2 is compatible, so what happens to
   the object?
 
  It goes away.  All objects get rolled back to the last valid state
  that have no unlicensed edits before them.  So any object where v1
  is unlicensed is gone, no matter how many changes have been done to
  it since.
 
 
 Surely that can't be correct? For example, I've surveyed an awful lot
 of the Perth northern suburbs, but I started off by tracing Nearmap
 imagery. My understanding is that Nearmap haven't agreed to the new
 licensing but nevertheless I've since personally surveyed the
 streets, corrected alignments, added names and changed
 source=nearmap to source=survey.
 
 I would understand if data and records of the original
 source=nearmap disappeared with the license change, but the
 subsequent source=survey edits would be able to be kept? Dropping
 data simply because at one time it was in an incompatible-license
 state but is now no longer sounds incredibly destructive to me.
 
 Is what's going to happen documented anywhere? I've had a poke around
 the wiki, but can't see anything relevant to how the data is being
 handled.
 

There is no easy answer for this. How does one sort out exactly what
has been surveyed and what is traced?
Then we still aren't sure if you can agree to the contributor terms
yet, having used NearMap at all - the CTs are still being revised, and
until there is some 'final' version, again there is no answer.

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