Re: [talk-au] topic A: the platform itself

2019-10-02 Thread Simon Slater
On Friday, 20 September 2019 5:03:10 PM AEST David Wales wrote:
> If the number of talk-au emails reaches overwhelming levels, it might be
> necessary to investigate other solutions. However, I don't think we have
> reached that point yet.
In that case, a digest option is good.  I get a list of posts, any 1 of which, 
or all, can be individually looked at as needed.

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[talk-au] Discussion I: Consultation ends and OSM Wiki starts

2019-10-02 Thread Herbert.Remi via Talk-au
# Discussion I: Consultation ends and OSM Wiki starts

Thanks for your support and assistance with the ACT OSM mapping project.
The consultation phase ends now and I will take your comments and consolidate 
the information into OSM Wiki pages in the ACT section.
I expect it will be an overview page and links to subpages for each topic. It 
is better on the smartphone screen in this way as there is not too much text 
per page.
Once the ACT OSM Wiki page is updated, it will be open for your comments again.
This could take about a month.
I will put a short note in this forum when the ACT OSM page has been updated.

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Re: [talk-au] Discussion H: public transport – the end game

2019-10-02 Thread David Wales
This is a good point.

Is there a moderator who could check if something like this is the case?

Regards,
David

On 2 October 2019 10:46:00 pm AEST, Mateusz Konieczny  
wrote:
>
>
>2 Oct 2019, 09:19 by e...@mapillary.com:
>
>> For the health of the mailing list, it would make sense to limit his
>communications so we're not bombarded daily with his emails.
>>
>Volume is not the biggest problem -
>and it would be probably acceptable.
>
>For me main problem is "fire and forget"
>mode.
>
>Is he even reading replies?
>
>Maybe he is unable to respond because
>he had monthly digest or something
>similarly problematic?
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Re: [talk-au] Discussion H: public transport – the end game

2019-10-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny


2 Oct 2019, 09:19 by e...@mapillary.com:

> For the health of the mailing list, it would make sense to limit his 
> communications so we're not bombarded daily with his emails.
>
Volume is not the biggest problem -
and it would be probably acceptable.

For me main problem is "fire and forget"
mode.

Is he even reading replies?

Maybe he is unable to respond because
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[talk-au] Mailing lists (was: Re: Discussion H: public transport – the end game)

2019-10-02 Thread Andy Townsend

On 02/10/2019 08:19, Edoardo Neerhut wrote:
it would make sense to limit his communications so we're not bombarded 
daily with his emails.


At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, one thing that it is 
perhaps worth mentioning is that in most mail clients it's perfectly 
possible to "file unseen" certain emails at the recipient end (provided 
you're not reading the digest, of course).  I think that I'd struggle to 
make sense of some OSM mailing lists without that as an option.


Best Regards,

Andy



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Re: [talk-au] Discussion H: public transport – the end game

2019-10-02 Thread Edoardo Neerhut
Frederik, the mailing list has been very patient and responsive to every
email Herbert has sent. They have provided many thoughtful and positive
responses and suggestions on how he can engage with the mailing list.

There has been no response from him.

For the health of the mailing list, it would make sense to limit his
communications so we're not bombarded daily with his emails. Herbert if you
wish to respond and acknowledge this email, please do prove me wrong. The
community welcomes new OpenStreetMappers.

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 17:11, Frederik Ramm  wrote:

> Ewen,
>
> thank you for trying to be constructive in this matter. Herbert seems to
> have considerable difficulties with the medium It sounds like he has
> been collecting issues for a while and now tries to resolve them all at
> once, which can overload the capacity of the mailing list for reasonable
> discussion, as well as his own.
>
> Reaching out in the way you have done it here is commendable and I hope
> that Herbert will take you up on the offer. I would like to appeal to
> those who are already calling for a "mailing list ban" to have more
> patience. Mailing lists can be difficult to handle for someone who is
> new to the game and has perhaps spent a lifetime using other, more
> formalised forms of communication. Yes, there can be times when we need
> to kick someone out because productive discussion is not possible, but I
> feel that it we should try and be welcoming even to people who don't
> "get" us at their first attempt. They can turn out to be valuable
> members of the community, bringing different views to the table and
> broadening our horizon.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
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Re: [talk-au] Discussion H: public transport – the end game

2019-10-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Ewen,

thank you for trying to be constructive in this matter. Herbert seems to
have considerable difficulties with the medium It sounds like he has
been collecting issues for a while and now tries to resolve them all at
once, which can overload the capacity of the mailing list for reasonable
discussion, as well as his own.

Reaching out in the way you have done it here is commendable and I hope
that Herbert will take you up on the offer. I would like to appeal to
those who are already calling for a "mailing list ban" to have more
patience. Mailing lists can be difficult to handle for someone who is
new to the game and has perhaps spent a lifetime using other, more
formalised forms of communication. Yes, there can be times when we need
to kick someone out because productive discussion is not possible, but I
feel that it we should try and be welcoming even to people who don't
"get" us at their first attempt. They can turn out to be valuable
members of the community, bringing different views to the table and
broadening our horizon.

Bye
Frederik

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