Re: [talk-au] Queensland railway stations
On 2022-04-18 13:08, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 9/4/22 10:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks Richard, we'll check them out. Thanks Graeme Well that proved to be a very tedious job. After reviewing hundreds of these about 240 of them have been converted to "no longer a station". Which leaves about 300 active stations in QLD. It seems that a guy in the UK has made it their life's work to list every railway stop that ever existed...and another's to add them to OSM. This is what guys in the UK do! Thanks for sorting it out. /Mike (speaking as a Brit)BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:4.0 EMAIL;PREF=1:m...@ayeltd.biz EMAIL:mike.collin...@ticketebo.com.au FN:Michael Collinson N:Collinson;Michael;;; TEL;TYPE=work;VALUE=TEXT:+61 491 086 207 TEL;TYPE=cell;VALUE=TEXT:+46 73 581 22 19 X-MOZILLA-HTML;VALUE=BOOLEAN:TRUE UID:fd70790f-e54a-1b4d-a9e3-7ea6b0059431 END:VCARD ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Queensland railway stations
On 9/4/22 10:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks Richard, we'll check them out. Thanks Graeme Well that proved to be a very tedious job. After reviewing hundreds of these about 240 of them have been converted to "no longer a station". Which leaves about 300 active stations in QLD. It seems that a guy in the UK has made it their life's work to list every railway stop that ever existed...and another's to add them to OSM. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Funding for OpenStreetMap initiatives
On 2022-04-18 10:51, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 at 03:23, Edoardo Neerhut wrote: OpenStreetMap merch could be a good thing to fund yeah. Would business cards be helpful for people? Personally I have never had much trouble, although contributing to Mapillary has prompted the odd question here or there. From practical experience, no. I certainly thought business cards were a great idea and had them when more active as OSMF board member and working group member, carried them assiduously ... and probably gave away about 3 outside SOTM and only one in a field mapping situation. Stickers with the OSM website printed would probably substitute - it backs up your story and gives folks something to look up if they are inclined. Mike BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:4.0 EMAIL;PREF=1:m...@ayeltd.biz EMAIL:mike.collin...@ticketebo.com.au FN:Michael Collinson N:Collinson;Michael;;; TEL;TYPE=work;VALUE=TEXT:+61 491 086 207 TEL;TYPE=cell;VALUE=TEXT:+46 73 581 22 19 X-MOZILLA-HTML;VALUE=BOOLEAN:TRUE UID:fd70790f-e54a-1b4d-a9e3-7ea6b0059431 END:VCARD ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Funding for OpenStreetMap initiatives
On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 at 03:23, Edoardo Neerhut wrote: > OpenStreetMap merch could be a good thing to fund yeah. Would business > cards be helpful for people? Personally I have never had much trouble, > although contributing to Mapillary has prompted the odd question here or > there. > Haven't had a problem as such, but once, when standing in a small shopping centre, taking photos of the shops on the other side of the car park, I did have a girl come out to ask what I was doing? Apparently because I had a clipboard in my hand, she thought I was booking her car! :-) Explained that I was only working on updating local maps & she was happy. Have felt a bit funny on occasion when doing a street survey, once again, walking along with a clipboard, looking at & making notes about the buildings I was passing, & sometimes taking photos of them. It must look (more than!) a bit sus to anybody watching, although nobody has ever said anything to me. As I said way back when we started the conversation, at those times, something "official" to show people that says we're legit would be nice to have. Maybe we could set up a store with useful swag/equipment that would be > subsidised by OSGeo Oceania. The minimal fees would cover shipping and stop > random people ordering things. > Or possibly you get free shipping if you've made more than xxx edits? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Tagging guidelines points - rest/parking/camping/hgv
Bob, does Dian's latest draft address some of your concerns? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads#Roadside_Rest_Areas Thanks Graeme On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 at 14:39, Bob Cameron wrote: > Sorry I cant see where to add these points to the wiki, nor see the edit > evolution. No doubt I'll see some disagreements, but anyway! > > - Regarding "No Camping" signs within the rest area category. (Although > it could apply to any location) > It seems a bit long winded and not really useful for rendering > (boo-hiss-grin) that there is no direct correlation with camping keys. > The general "on the ground" camping that happens seems to be a case of > "anywhere that isn't excluded", so it makes logical sense to "name" a > (non) camping site, who says so, then mark it as access=no. > Rendering/reporting (boo/hiss) should exclude access=no from viable sites. > > No doubt it contras the ROW wiki but things are not the same everywhere. > And realising that camping/staying is an incredibly complex subject that > will get even worse as more population elects to stay mobile. People > will need to know what public places they aren't welcome in. > > Also in rest areas section > > - One of the dramas with local council (ie not highway) rest areas as > leisure=park is that the name is often the park name (only/already), so > the existence of the blue rest area "picnic table and tree" sign doesn't > really correlate. Naming a parking area works, but it isn't a rest area. > I don't have an answer for that one, although keep in mind that one of > the standard sub tags in "rest area" is operator. > > - Designated vs yes for hgv. I seem to remember that we don't input > legislation "stuff", but what is on the ground. I would prefer to think > "designated" (always) means there is a P+truck sign up, whereas "yes" > means it happens or is (judgement) possible. Informal parking/rest areas > would only ever have yes or no. This doesn't change the tagging so much > in the guidelines but the prewording to what the tag and road signs > actually equate to. I wonder if it is worth a few graphics? > > - Vehicle parking sizes have worried me for a while. hgv's can double in > size. Perhaps it should be a based on B-Double sizes? I don't have a > viable answer for this as there will be data out there already. What > does NHVR do for its informal (green dot) rest areas? (To do with > capacity or size) > > Cheers > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Wiki Clean Up Progress Update
Looks good to me, thanks, Dian! Corrected one minor typo. & I wasn't aware of tracktypes 6, 7 & 8! Thanks Graeme On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 at 23:26, Dian Ågesson wrote: > Hello list, > > Cleanup has of the Tagging Guidelines page is continuing. > > The > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Australia%27s_First_Peoples > received positive feedback, and has now been integrated fully into the page. > > The second Tagging Guidelines subpage of the cleanu[ is ready for > community endorsement: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads. > > This subpage was hard. This section had a lot of really old content, some > of which had been largely unchanged for a decade. There was a lot of > generic, non-Australia specific advice and explanations justifying what is > now well accepted tagging practices. I have tried my best to update the > wording of the relevant sections while keeping the intent and advice within > consistent with the original while removing outdated information. I've also > been guided by the actual usage of some of the tags suggested, which have > not been implemented despite their documentation many years ago. > > Please, review this page and let me know your thoughts and feedback. If > there are no objections, the old text from the guidelines will be removed. > > Dian > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Funding for OpenStreetMap initiatives
OpenStreetMap merch could be a good thing to fund yeah. Would business
cards be helpful for people? Personally I have never had much trouble,
although contributing to Mapillary has prompted the odd question here or
there.
Maybe we could set up a store with useful swag/equipment that would be
subsidised by OSGeo Oceania. The minimal fees would cover shipping and stop
random people ordering things.
On Thu, 14 Apr 2022, 23:36 Graeme Fitzpatrick,
wrote:
> Yep, & I was one of them, sorry :-(
>
> In the News last week:
> https://www-openstreetmap-org.translate.goog/user/LySioS/diary/398913?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=EN&_x_tr_hl=en-G
>
> & the version in English is here:
> https://wiki-openstreetmap-org.translate.goog/wiki/Business_card?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=EN&_x_tr_hl=en-GB
>
> It would be nice if we had a central e-mail address for "OSM Australia"
> that any subsequent enquiries could go to?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 at 12:20, Edoardo Neerhut wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> When this was raised last year we had some wonderful suggestions on how
>> OSM funds could be used, but we lacked people willing to implement them.
>>
>> I wanted to bump this thread and see if anyone is willing to put their
>> hand up to arrange OSM badges, business cards, drones, cameras, events, or
>> any other ideas that would help people wanting to contribute to OSM in
>> Australia. OSGeo Oceania has funding available that is just sitting there,
>> so we'd love to put it to use.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 19:08, stevea wrote:
>>
>>> The high-viz (ORANGE!) vest? Been there, done that, those are visually
>>> loud and itchy, uncomfortable vinyl. I would prefer something like a
>>> lanyard-badge/card with real OSM logos (could be Australian chapter, for me
>>> it'd be OSM-US) and I'd even put my photo on that (and I'm really sensitive
>>> to getting my photo put on a badge, like I won't do it for my Costco
>>> membership; I say it is against my religion because it is against my
>>> personal beliefs to do that). But I wouldn't be sharing this "OSM Badge"
>>> with anybody besides a person I showed it to ("carry a clipboard and act
>>> important") and struck up a chat with about OSM and smiled as I answered
>>> all questions to the best of my ability. "Business cards" are also a great
>>> idea, put the website on 'em and we might have just earned a new volunteer
>>> after they check us out.
>>>
>>> Yeah, fitting into those paradigms of "ambassador, have I answered all
>>> of your questions..." and badges and business cards, maybe even a sort of
>>> vCard between smartphones, yeah, any or all of those seem like they gain
>>> traction and respect for our project. Community building happens on all
>>> sorts of levels, these are good ones.
>>>
>>> There are all sorts of sites that let you upload some graphics and a
>>> photo-per-badge and they'll pump 'em out for maybe AUD5 each in quantity 20
>>> or so. Decent templates and design tools are built right into the website
>>> and are what I'd call (having used them) "not bad." Good luck, sounds like
>>> a sweet spot.
>>>
>>> SteveA
>>> California, USA
>>>
>>> > On Jul 13, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Jonathon Rossi
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > @Graeme, I don't have the time or really the skills to design one, but
>>> am happy to provide feedback. Another organisation I volunteer with here in
>>> QLD has a plastic credit card sized ID exactly as I described above,
>>> portrait orientation with a slot at the top. I recall it was shipped
>>> directly to me from a Gold Coast company that prints them, no idea the cost.
>>>
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[talk-au] Wiki Clean Up Progress Update
Hello list, Cleanup has of the Tagging Guidelines page is continuing. The https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Australia%27s_First_Peoples received positive feedback, and has now been integrated fully into the page. The second Tagging Guidelines subpage of the cleanu[ is ready for community endorsement: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads. This subpage was hard. This section had a lot of really old content, some of which had been largely unchanged for a decade. There was a lot of generic, non-Australia specific advice and explanations justifying what is now well accepted tagging practices. I have tried my best to update the wording of the relevant sections while keeping the intent and advice within consistent with the original while removing outdated information. I've also been guided by the actual usage of some of the tags suggested, which have not been implemented despite their documentation many years ago. Please, review this page and let me know your thoughts and feedback. If there are no objections, the old text from the guidelines will be removed. Dian___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
