[talk-au] Regional OpenStreetMap conference in Auckland, NZ

[Edoardo Neerhut]

G'day Australia,

I wanted to put FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2023 
on your radar if it isn't already. This conference has been run in various
forms since 2018, rotating around the region with great success. The 2023
iteration takes place in Auckland, NZ between October 16th and October 20th.

The line up of talks looks fantastic and will be released publicly shortly.
We're also expecting solid representation from across our wide region
thanks to the largest travel grant program
 OSGeo
Oceania has ever run. The community day on Friday will be full of mapathons
and workshops where OpenStreetMap plays a starring role.

If you have the time and capability to attend, we'd love to see you there
representing the OpenStreetMap community. If there is anything we can help
you do to get there, let us know.

Cheers,

Ed & The FOSS4G SotM Oceania team
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Re: [talk-au] Funding for OpenStreetMap initiatives

[Edoardo Neerhut]

OpenStreetMap merch could be a good thing to fund yeah. Would business
cards be helpful for people? Personally I have never had much trouble,
although contributing to Mapillary has prompted the odd question here or
there.

Maybe we could set up a store with useful swag/equipment that would be
subsidised by OSGeo Oceania. The minimal fees would cover shipping and stop
random people ordering things.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022, 23:36 Graeme Fitzpatrick, 
wrote:

> Yep, & I was one of them, sorry :-(
>
> In the News last week:
> https://www-openstreetmap-org.translate.goog/user/LySioS/diary/398913?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=EN&_x_tr_hl=en-G
>
> & the version in English is here:
> https://wiki-openstreetmap-org.translate.goog/wiki/Business_card?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=EN&_x_tr_hl=en-GB
>
> It would be nice if we had a central e-mail address for "OSM Australia"
> that any subsequent enquiries could go to?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 at 12:20, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> When this was raised last year we had some wonderful suggestions on how
>> OSM funds could be used, but we lacked people willing to implement them.
>>
>> I wanted to bump this thread and see if anyone is willing to put their
>> hand up to arrange OSM badges, business cards, drones, cameras, events, or
>> any other ideas that would help people wanting to contribute to OSM in
>> Australia. OSGeo Oceania has funding available that is just sitting there,
>> so we'd love to put it to use.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 19:08, stevea  wrote:
>>
>>> The high-viz (ORANGE!) vest?  Been there, done that, those are visually
>>> loud and itchy, uncomfortable vinyl.  I would prefer something like a
>>> lanyard-badge/card with real OSM logos (could be Australian chapter, for me
>>> it'd be OSM-US) and I'd even put my photo on that (and I'm really sensitive
>>> to getting my photo put on a badge, like I won't do it for my Costco
>>> membership; I say it is against my religion because it is against my
>>> personal beliefs to do that).  But I wouldn't be sharing this "OSM Badge"
>>> with anybody besides a person I showed it to ("carry a clipboard and act
>>> important") and struck up a chat with about OSM and smiled as I answered
>>> all questions to the best of my ability.  "Business cards" are also a great
>>> idea, put the website on 'em and we might have just earned a new volunteer
>>> after they check us out.
>>>
>>> Yeah, fitting into those paradigms of "ambassador, have I answered all
>>> of your questions..." and badges and business cards, maybe even a sort of
>>> vCard between smartphones, yeah, any or all of those seem like they gain
>>> traction and respect for our project.  Community building happens on all
>>> sorts of levels, these are good ones.
>>>
>>> There are all sorts of sites that let you upload some graphics and a
>>> photo-per-badge and they'll pump 'em out for maybe AUD5 each in quantity 20
>>> or so.  Decent templates and design tools are built right into the website
>>> and are what I'd call (having used them) "not bad."  Good luck, sounds like
>>> a sweet spot.
>>>
>>> SteveA
>>> California, USA
>>>
>>> > On Jul 13, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Jonathon Rossi 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > @Graeme, I don't have the time or really the skills to design one, but
>>> am happy to provide feedback. Another organisation I volunteer with here in
>>> QLD has a plastic credit card sized ID exactly as I described above,
>>> portrait orientation with a slot at the top. I recall it was shipped
>>> directly to me from a Gold Coast company that prints them, no idea the cost.
>>>
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Re: [talk-au] Funding for OpenStreetMap initiatives

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi all,

When this was raised last year we had some wonderful suggestions on how
OSM funds could be used, but we lacked people willing to implement them.

I wanted to bump this thread and see if anyone is willing to put their hand
up to arrange OSM badges, business cards, drones, cameras, events, or any
other ideas that would help people wanting to contribute to OSM in
Australia. OSGeo Oceania has funding available that is just sitting there,
so we'd love to put it to use.

Cheers,

Ed

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 19:08, stevea  wrote:

> The high-viz (ORANGE!) vest?  Been there, done that, those are visually
> loud and itchy, uncomfortable vinyl.  I would prefer something like a
> lanyard-badge/card with real OSM logos (could be Australian chapter, for me
> it'd be OSM-US) and I'd even put my photo on that (and I'm really sensitive
> to getting my photo put on a badge, like I won't do it for my Costco
> membership; I say it is against my religion because it is against my
> personal beliefs to do that).  But I wouldn't be sharing this "OSM Badge"
> with anybody besides a person I showed it to ("carry a clipboard and act
> important") and struck up a chat with about OSM and smiled as I answered
> all questions to the best of my ability.  "Business cards" are also a great
> idea, put the website on 'em and we might have just earned a new volunteer
> after they check us out.
>
> Yeah, fitting into those paradigms of "ambassador, have I answered all of
> your questions..." and badges and business cards, maybe even a sort of
> vCard between smartphones, yeah, any or all of those seem like they gain
> traction and respect for our project.  Community building happens on all
> sorts of levels, these are good ones.
>
> There are all sorts of sites that let you upload some graphics and a
> photo-per-badge and they'll pump 'em out for maybe AUD5 each in quantity 20
> or so.  Decent templates and design tools are built right into the website
> and are what I'd call (having used them) "not bad."  Good luck, sounds like
> a sweet spot.
>
> SteveA
> California, USA
>
> > On Jul 13, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Jonathon Rossi  wrote:
> >
> > @Graeme, I don't have the time or really the skills to design one, but
> am happy to provide feedback. Another organisation I volunteer with here in
> QLD has a plastic credit card sized ID exactly as I described above,
> portrait orientation with a slot at the top. I recall it was shipped
> directly to me from a Gold Coast company that prints them, no idea the cost.
>
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[talk-au] OpenStreetMap Foundation Local Committee AGM and Annual Report

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi all,

*Annual General Meeting*
I recently sent a reminder
 about
the OSGeo Oceania AGM that is taking place this Friday. As the local
chapter of the OSMF in Oceania, the meeting will hopefully interest many in
the OSM community.

Everyone is welcome to attend, ask questions, give suggestions, and get
involved. You can register here
.
It will take place on Dec 17, 2021 at 10:00 AM AWST/12:00 PM AEST/14:00
FJT/15:00 NZT.

*Annual report*
You will also find the Annual Report from the 2020/2021 Board linked here
.
It includes a report from the OpenStreetMap Special Interest Group that was
rather active earlier this year, but is in need of members and enthusiasm.
Is that you?

Thanks for reading,

Ed & The OSGeo Oceania Board
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Re: [talk-au] Enriching OpenStreetMap with open data

[Edoardo Neerhut]

This looks great John.
Just shared on the Maptime Oceania Slack

as well.


On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 15:20, John Luan  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> There is a virtual meetup session for openstreetmap data contribution.
>
> https://www.intelematics.com/events/enriching-openstreetmap-with-open-data/
>
> Regards,
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[talk-au] FOSS4G SotM Oceania - Friday, November 12th

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi everyone,

FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2021
 takes place
this Friday, November 12th. Much of the content will be of interest to the
OpenStreetMap community, so I wanted to share connection information with
each of our regional talklists.

1. *Zoom*
This is the recommended option as you will be able to join the stream as an
attendee and ask questions of the presenters. If you haven't already, you
can register here
.

2.* YouTube Live*
This is a simple option for those that do not want to or unable to connect
via Zoom. All you need to do is connect to the live stream via this link
.

The live stream will commence at the following time Friday, November 12th:

   - Perth, Australia - 09:00
   - Dili, Timor-Leste - 10:00
   - Brisbane, Australia - 11:00
   - Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea - 11:00
   - Hobart, Australia - 12:00
   - Canberra, Australia - 12:00
   - South Tarawa, Kiribati - 13:00
   - Suva, Fiji - 13:00
   - Auckland, New Zealand - :14:00
   - Apia, Samoa - 15:00

The schedule is as follows:

Speaker Title Minutes
Intro and Hub cheer
Kate Fickas Where are all the women? 20
Carrol Chan and Nemaia Koto Building an OSM Community in Fiji: The Journey
and Future of OSM Fiji 20
Tish Dhar The History and Politics of Globe Viewers/Virtual Earths 20
Q/A with keynote speakers Q/A session 30
Chayn Sun The second year of COVID-19 in Australia: machine learning on the
outbreak pattern and associations with environmental, social-economic
factors 15+5 Q/A
Emma Krantz Geospatial Data Management for the Busy and Easily Bored 15+5
Q/A
Jacky Jiang Magda: the open-source data infrastructure powers TerriaJS's
digital twin platform 15+5 Q/A
Shogo Hirasawa The United Nations Vector Tile Toolkit 15+5 Q/A
Chris Beddow Using the Mapillary Python SDK 15+5 Q/A

Let me know if you have any questions and we look forward to seeing you
there,

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[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] INVITATION: 2021 Local Chapters and Communities Congress

[Edoardo Neerhut]

This is a great one for our region to be involved in. Pretty late time zone
wise for anyone east of Perth, Australia, but I wanted to get it on your
radar regardless.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Arnalie Vicario 
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 at 07:25
Subject: [OSM-talk] INVITATION: 2021 Local Chapters and Communities Congress
To: osm , ,
diversity-talk , 


Hello everyone,

We invite you to the *2021 OpenStreetMap Local Chapters and Communities
Congress this Saturday, 6 November at 12:00 UTC* (see link for local time

)!

We’ll have an Around the World session (updates from different
local chapters and communities), presentation about the new Welcome Tool,
and have breakout sessions with topics such as becoming a local chapter,
OSM in Government, OSMF Microgrants, community building and many more!

You can find more information and the registration link here:

*http://tinyurl.com/OSM-LCCC21 *

See you there!


warm regards,
Arnalie
On behalf of LCCWG
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Re: [talk-au] Celebrating 17 years of OSM

[Edoardo Neerhut]

*An update.*

It looks like the targeted date is now Sunday, August 8th with a time of
03:00 UTC for Oceania (11am Perth, 1pm AEST, 3pm NZ/Fiji, 5pm Tahiti).
A wiki has been started here
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/OSM_17-hour_Global_Mapathon>
.

I don't think I'll be available that weekend, but is anyone willing to
coordinate the Oceania hour? Should be pretty light weight with map task
selection and coordination the main work required.

On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:50, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:

> Glad to hear there is some interest to participate.
> I'll check with Maggie from OSM US to see whether August 9th is the
> proposed date for the mapathon.
>
> She proposed Big Blue Button
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BigBlueButton> as the digital
> platform to facilitate the mapathon. I thought it worked well for State of
> the Map this year.
>
> @Graeme Fitzpatrick  00:00 UTC is 12pm and 1pm in
> Kiribati and American Samoa respectively, so I don't imagine it being too
> much of an issue for participation there. Perth is more difficult as it is
> 8am for them.
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:34, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 02:32, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:
>>
>> Sounds OK.
>>
>>  Given that we come from the future, Oceania was proposed as the time
>>> zone that would kick the event off at 00:00 GMT.
>>>
>>
>> That could be a bit tricky, seeing that we have Kiribati at GMT +14 &
>> American Samoa at -11!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Graeme
>>
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Re: [talk-au] Funding for OpenStreetMap initiatives

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi all,

Thrilled at the enthusiastic response to this and the range of suggestions.
A bit of homework for us at the OSM Special Interest Group (OSM SIG) is to
get a proper application form together shaped by your suggestions.
I'll discuss this with OSGeo Oceania's SIG which all are welcome to join.
Andrew Harvey is currently co-chair, but we're looking for another co-chair
for him.

To address some of the points raised:

   - @Violaine  excellent idea. Definitely in scope.
   - @fors...@ozonline.com.au  I love the idea of
   the signs giving the story behind the tree planting more permanence. If
   Parks Vic approves, I would imagine the OSM SIG would approve such use of
   funds. Let us know if something concrete comes up around
   venue hire/internet. This is also within scope and we could discuss ASAP to
   get you what you need.
   - @Mateusz Good question and one we have not discussed in detail. My own
   opinion is that there should be some Oceania connection, as that is the
   mandate of our organisation. This could be a tool developed directly in
   Oceania that has global reach, or a tool developed globally that has clear
   benefit to end users in Oceania.
   - @brenbar...@gmail.com  every one of these is
   worthy. For many of these we need someone to volunteer to maintain the
   program. A camera grant program for Oceania would be wonderful, but we need
   some volunteers to help put it together. Here is an example from the UK
   . Warin raises a
   good point though. I actually ran a camera grant program for a day job
   (Mapillary) and the lesson learned over time is that to be successful the
   cameras really need to be a permanent grant rather than a loan. It becomes
   too expensive and time consuming to ship cameras across the world, or even
   Oceania. The dynamics could be different for a rental program, but then
   someone needs to be willing to manage it.
   - I like the UK's high-vis vests
    idea, but
   I don't think I'd wear one myself. The iD of some sort along with flyers is
   a good idea though. If OSGeo Oceania was willing to place an initial order
   of 50 or so, do you think you'd be able to help design them @graeme?

I'm very keen to see how many of these brilliant ideas can be turned into
concrete actions. To be perfectly honest, the main barrier here is having
someone willing to put in the time to drive each initiative. Money is less
of a concern and the whole point of OSGeo Oceania and our OSM group is to
support initiatives like this.

The OSM SIG will follow up with a concrete platform to submit ideas, but
feel free to keep them coming here in the meantime.

Happy mapping,

Ed




On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 21:08, Sam Wilson  wrote:

> I've also had conversations like that, and have rarely managed to convince
> people that I'm not peculiar. I remember one bloke found it more believable
> that I was collecting photos of power poles than that I was contributing to
> a map!
>
> OSM UK has high-viz surveyor vests
> , or
> rather instructions for how to get a work-wear company to make such a thing
> on order. I wonder if we could do something similar here?
>
> But yeah, I agree that a 'official' OSM Oceania leaflet or lanyard or
> something would be great. I mean, I realise I could just print such a
> thing, but there's something better about it having some sort of community
> standing.
>
> —Sam.
>
>
> On 13/7/21 11:33 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
> Bit of an out-there idea that I've had a couple of times.
>
> Occasionally, when doing an on-street survey in populated areas, I've
> thought that the sight of some random stranger walking the street making
> notes about the buildings that he's passing & checking out must look a bit
> suspicious! :-)
>
> Once, when I was writing down shop names in a shopping centre, I've even
> been asked what I was doing, & explained that I was gathering details to
> improve local maps.
>
> It would be "nice" if we could walk around with a photo ID, emblazoned OSM
> Oceania (or maybe Australia / NZ / Fiji etc etc?) dangling around our
> necks, as it would look a lot more "professional" & "official".
>
> At the same time, also have some brochures produced explaining what OSM is
> about, what we do & how everybody can contribute, & pass them out to
> anybody interested.
>
> Worthwhile?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 13:03, Brendan Barnes  wrote:
>
>> Suggestions:
>>
>> Loanable equipment such as high-precision handheld GPS units for GPS
>> traces, and Waylens or 360 degree cameras for KartaView image sequences.
>> Similar to the equipment loan program in Europe
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GPS_Units_for_Loan
>>
>> Hardware for a loanable KartaView rig project, such as a "trekking-style"
>> backpack for OSM hikers, or a HD multi-camera, 

Re: [talk-au] [OSGeo Oceania] [Meeting invite] OSGeo Membership discussion and OSGeo Oceania election debrief

[Edoardo Neerhut]

I think that's a good idea Bruce.
I'll drop the OSM talk mailing lists after this email so I stop spamming
your inboxes, but for those interested, please join the conversation
on the OSGeo
Oceania lists <https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/oceania>.

My intention with the membership meeting was to flesh out some of the
conversations from the talklists. The more we can discuss here prior to the
meeting, the better. Ideally these discussions give us some concrete
actions and talking points in the meeting. There is no silver bullet though
and discussions both on the mailing lists and in a meeting will be helpful.

*OSGeo Oceania membership*
The OSGeo Oceania membership policy as it is currently was arrived at after
some discussion
<https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania/2019-October/thread.html>. It is
very similar to the concept of OSGeo membership that Bruce referenced. They
key differences are:

   1. A straightforward application process. This helps to gauge whether or
   not the prospective member lives up to the eligibility criteria in the
   Membership Policy
   
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/14_6Ru8Xy5jGIuWXysuIJQwQonmjhtlpmHbqVwtOsUNA/edit>.
   It also helps us comply with ASIC <https://asic.gov.au> in maintaining
   the membership register. The application process is simple and the vast
   majority of applicants are approved...eventually.
   2. Members can vote in the board elections.

Others in the community can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we
reached this Membership Policy because we wanted a simple, non-exclusive
type of membership. It also felt premature to have a Charter Membership
concept when the organisation as an entity is so young. Everyone should
feel welcome to become a member.

To ensure an active membership base, we made it a responsibility that
members vote in the annual elections. Failing to two so in two
consecutive elections would indicate an ineligible member. We may need to
revise this.

Membership should not be exclusive, and if it feels that way, it's a
failure in communication and potentially in process.

Cheers,

Ed




On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 11:39, Bruce Bannerman <
bruce.bannerman.os...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I admire your enthusiasm Ed. Well done!
>
> Can I suggest that we start by working through the issue of what is a
> member on the ocea...@lists.osgeo.org list?
>
> Having the discussion on only one list, will avoid people missing out on
> discussion that occurs on another list that they are not subscribed to.
>
> This process will take longer, but I hope it will get more people involved
> in the necessary discussion, particularly at this time of year.
>
> An email discussion will also allow the community time to reflect on
> various approaches and to add their comments.
>
> Some of our members may be hesitant to voice their opinions at a public
> meeting, but may be willing to share their thoughts via email. There could
> be many reasons for this, including that community participants may not be
> native English speakers and need time to ensure that their message is
> understood.
>
> I encourage everyone involved in our community to contribute to evolve how
> we want to work together. You may not think so, but your thoughts and
> opinion **are** important.
>
>
> @Ed,
>
> Can I suggest that we:
>
>
>- start with the membership rules and approach of our parent
>organisation, the OSGeo Foundation. These rules may be found at [1];
>- explore why we believe that an alternate approach is warranted;
>- discuss any proposed alternate approach; and
>- arrive at a community consensus position on membership.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bruce
>
> OSGeo Foundation Charter Member [2]
> Member, OSGeo Incubation Committee [3]
>
>
> [1] https://www.osgeo.org/about/membership-rules/
>
> [2] https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/
>
> [3] *https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Incubation_Committee>*
>
>
>
>
> On 16 Dec 2020, at 21:42, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> *What does it mean to be a member of OSGeo Oceania?*
>
> This is one of the many questions people have been asking the organisation
> and it is one that we should collectively answer.
>
> I would like to invite you all to a meeting on Wednesday, December 23rd at
> 12:00pm UTC+11 to discuss this and other questions further. I have added
> this meeting to an open OSGeo Oceania calendar
> <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=dgea06cf2tu9ukl2f7nmfqjp98%40group.calendar.google.com=Australia%2FMelbourne>
>  where
> you will find this meeting and others.
>
> If you cannot make the meeting, but are interested nonetheless, please add
> yourself to the agenda
>

[talk-au] [Meeting invite] OSGeo Membership discussion and OSGeo Oceania election debrief

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi everyone,

*What does it mean to be a member of OSGeo Oceania?*

This is one of the many questions people have been asking the organisation
and it is one that we should collectively answer.

I would like to invite you all to a meeting on Wednesday, December 23rd at
12:00pm UTC+11 to discuss this and other questions further. I have added
this meeting to an open OSGeo Oceania calendar

where
you will find this meeting and others.

If you cannot make the meeting, but are interested nonetheless, please add
yourself to the agenda

under 'Apologies, but interested'. That way we can make sure to invite you
to future meetings.

The agenda is sparse at the moment, but I welcome new additions.

Other questions to discuss include:

   -
*What does it mean to be a member of OSGeo Oceania? *
   -
*What are the requirements to be a member? *
   -
*Should there even be requirements? *
   -
*Why was the recent election vote participation so low? *
   -
*How can a member get involved? *
   -
*How do we do a better job engaging current and potential members? *
   -
*How do we ensure a welcoming environment? *
   - *How do we live up to the "Oceania" in OSGeo Oceania?*

I hope to see many of you there, and please invite others you may know who
are interested.

Thank you,

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Re: [talk-au] [Feedback wanted] OpenStreetMap Oceania local chapter

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi again,

Apologies for more spam, but Jayen pointed out that my calendar link didn't
work. You should be able to see the open calendar here
<https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=dgea06cf2tu9ukl2f7nmfqjp98%40group.calendar.google.com=Australia%2FMelbourne>.
Once again, the OSM SIG discussion is scheduled for January 22nd at 12pm
UTC +11. Everyone is welcome.

In the meantime, please help us improve the charter
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RzMq3p4VAENBkvl1pWIXom4oP6A_j_5EqI7DB_4n0xA/edit#>
so
that we can develop and grow the Oceania OSMF local chapter.

Cheers,

Ed


On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 16:00, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> *Tl;dr: *Please help us set a vision and goals for the Oceania
> OpenStreetMap local chapter.
>
> *A local chapter is established*
> As some of you already know, OSGeo Oceania is now the local chapter for
> the OpenStreetMap Foundation in Oceania. We are the first regional local
> chapter, with other local chapters operating at a country level. I believe
> there is a lot to be gained by working together as a region.
>
> The OSM wiki describes local chapters
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters> as
> follows:
> *Local Chapters are country-level or region-level not-for-profit legal
> entities representing the area's map and mappers when dealing with local
> government, business, and media, established with the OpenStreetMap
> Foundation (OSMF) <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation>, giving
> them a link to the legal and copyright governing body.*
>
> This is a good description, but it is still rather broad and it is up to
> us as a community to define the specifics. This includes what we want our
> local chapter to achieve and how it can support our varied OSM efforts.
>
> *An OpenStreetMap Special Interest Group (OSM SIG)*
> For this reason, we have created an OpenStreetMap Special Interest Group
> (OSM SIG) that forms part of OSGeo Oceania. This is a group that will meet
> periodically to establish some of these goals and hopefully actively work
> towards them soon. We've had two meetings thus far and are due for another.
> Here are the previous meeting minutes:
>
>- 2020-07-23
>
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TOTHXim1USSbmgR_AftmRRk2GWOwiYM8OhFm0AuA1A8/edit?usp=sharing>
>- 2020-08-10
>
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gasCSywdT6N8nFahSLTVOVU6rmEnIi1_BuKEH_peW88/edit?usp=sharing>
>
> Anyone is welcome to join and to take part in the OSM SIG. I propose the
> next meeting to take place on January 22nd at 12pm UTC +11. I have added a
> meeting to the newly created OSGeo Oceania public calendar
> <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0?cid=ZGdlYTA2Y2YydHU5dWtsMmY3bm1mcWpwOThAZ3JvdXAuY2FsZW5kYXIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ>.
> Let me know if you have any trouble accessing it and I can send you the
> invite.
>
> *OSM SIG charter*
> We're working on a charter
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RzMq3p4VAENBkvl1pWIXom4oP6A_j_5EqI7DB_4n0xA/edit#>
> that will help define some of these goals. It'll be something we can refer
> back to regularly to make sure we're on the right track. It needs a lot of
> work and we'd love input from the wider community. Please take a look at it
> and make suggestions. The QGIS SIG charter
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lrewntrC0N1r6mfZdo1AdPhe2qTEaN5hDA2pcL0mrvI/edit#heading=h.16tbdbw1xygl>
> is further ahead and can provide inspiration.
>
> Really looking forward to seeing input from you all.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Ed
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[talk-au] [Feedback wanted] OpenStreetMap Oceania local chapter

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi everyone,

*Tl;dr: *Please help us set a vision and goals for the Oceania
OpenStreetMap local chapter.

*A local chapter is established*
As some of you already know, OSGeo Oceania is now the local chapter for the
OpenStreetMap Foundation in Oceania. We are the first regional local
chapter, with other local chapters operating at a country level. I believe
there is a lot to be gained by working together as a region.

The OSM wiki describes local chapters
 as follows:
*Local Chapters are country-level or region-level not-for-profit legal
entities representing the area's map and mappers when dealing with local
government, business, and media, established with the OpenStreetMap
Foundation (OSMF) , giving
them a link to the legal and copyright governing body.*

This is a good description, but it is still rather broad and it is up to us
as a community to define the specifics. This includes what we want our
local chapter to achieve and how it can support our varied OSM efforts.

*An OpenStreetMap Special Interest Group (OSM SIG)*
For this reason, we have created an OpenStreetMap Special Interest Group
(OSM SIG) that forms part of OSGeo Oceania. This is a group that will meet
periodically to establish some of these goals and hopefully actively work
towards them soon. We've had two meetings thus far and are due for another.
Here are the previous meeting minutes:

   - 2020-07-23
   

   - 2020-08-10
   


Anyone is welcome to join and to take part in the OSM SIG. I propose the
next meeting to take place on January 22nd at 12pm UTC +11. I have added a
meeting to the newly created OSGeo Oceania public calendar
.
Let me know if you have any trouble accessing it and I can send you the
invite.

*OSM SIG charter*
We're working on a charter

that will help define some of these goals. It'll be something we can refer
back to regularly to make sure we're on the right track. It needs a lot of
work and we'd love input from the wider community. Please take a look at it
and make suggestions. The QGIS SIG charter

is further ahead and can provide inspiration.

Really looking forward to seeing input from you all.

Kind regards,

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[talk-au] [FOSS4G-Oceania] Nominations - OSGeo Oceania board election

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Dear Returning Officer & OSGeo Oceania,

I am happy to nominate another candidate for the OSGeo Oceania board, *Ewen
Hill of Melbourne, Australia*.

Ewen Hill is one of those people who contributes an enormous amount to the
geospatial community while asking little in return. He has been involved in
almost all geospatial events since I have been in Melbourne, and I am sure
many before. Ewen is the guy who patiently shows people how to get the most
out of JOSM or QGIS, working his way around the room to support anyone
needing help. He's the guy that spends time putting together a map in QGIS
after an OpenStreetMap event to show the results of a mapathon. He's the
guy who rocks up at the venue two weeks before to make sure it has
everything you need for FOSS4G SotM Oceania.

I'm sure he'd bring this same selflessness and attention to detail to the
board, while being a strong advocate of the open source geospatial tools we
all know and love.

Kind regards,

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Re: [talk-au] [FOSS4G-Oceania] Nominations - OSGeo Oceania board election

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Thanks John, I like that list and great idea sharing publicly!

For the record, I nominated Kamsin Raju (Nadi, Fiji) for the OSGeo Oceania
today board so the Fiji representation is strong .

On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 16:21, Alex Leith  wrote:

> Thanks John
>
> Fantastic work in nominating these six individuals.
>
> And I'd like to endorse your call for folks to join up as members to vote,
> and to nominate yourself or someone worthy to serve on the Board (with
> their agreement!).
>
> Director nominations close on the 22nd, so there's still time.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 16:03, John Bryant  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've nominated a few members of the Oceania open geospatial community for
>> election to the OSGeo Oceania board. These people have made outstanding
>> contributions to this community over the last few years, and I believe they
>> are ready to step up and provide the leadership the organisation needs to
>> serve this community well.
>>
>> These are the people I've nominated:
>> *Edwin Liava'a (Tonga & Brisbane, Australia)*
>> *Nemaia Koto (Suva, Fiji)*
>> *Elisa Puccioni (Wellington, NZ)*
>> *Edoardo Neerhut (Melbourne, Australia)*
>> *Jonah Sullivan (Canberra, Australia)*
>> *Carrol Chan (Suva, Fiji)*
>>
>> You can see the details here:
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania/2020-November/002420.html
>>
>> If you're a member of this community, but not yet an official voting
>> member of OSGeo Oceania, you may still be able to apply for membership in
>> time to vote (I haven't heard otherwise, and last year applications were
>> solicited and accepted up to 26 Nov). It's easy to join. Learn more, and
>> apply here: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Oceania#Membership
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
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Re: [talk-au] Show your support of OpenStreetMap in our region: OSMF Application 

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi Sebastian,

Yes it took place and you can find the minutes here
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TOTHXim1USSbmgR_AftmRRk2GWOwiYM8OhFm0AuA1A8/edit?usp=sharing>
.
We're just concluding a few things like the final list of people
participating and who will lead the working group.

The next meeting will be scheduled soon, so if you're interested, you can fill
your availability out her <https://doodle.com/poll/caf7qe9pnra6bznn>e.

Cheers,

Ed

On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 20:30, Sebastian S.  wrote:

> Hello all, late to the game.
> Did the meeting take place?
> Is there some outcome or summary of it?
>
> Cheers,
> Sebastian
>
> On 19 July 2020 5:17:40 pm AEST, Edoardo Neerhut 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> Andrew informs me that the calendar invite link doesn't work. I'll send
>> out invites to everyone who puts 'Yes' next to the question about
>> volunteering on the working group, or feel free to respond to this email
>> requesting an invite.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 at 16:49, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Oceania,
>>>
>>> *TLDR: Show your support for OpenStreetMap in Oceania by filling in this
>>> brief form
>>> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/16jnD0aNuiJA2lCi94G_wRye1-arPsqJCbiD__Q_UWlM/edit>,
>>> and if you're interested, volunteering to help create an OSM Oceania
>>> working group.*
>>>
>>> The purpose of this email is to gather support and volunteers to
>>> establish a local chapter of the OpenStreetMap Foundation
>>> <https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Main_Page> (OSMF) in Oceania.
>>> OSGeo Oceania <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Oceania> has been supporting
>>> the application, and the benefits and objectives of this Local Chapter have
>>> been shared with the Australia
>>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2020-May/013840.html>
>>> , New Zealand
>>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-nz/2020/000197.html>,
>>> and Oceania
>>> <https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania/2020-May/002291.html>
>>> talklists in earlier emails and on the Maptime Oceania Slack
>>> <https://join.slack.com/t/maptimeoceania/shared_invite/enQtNDU3MTU3ODkyMjU2LThiMWU4MjZjNjM0ZWRiMWZlNWE2OTZjYjM0ZTMzZDEwMzc5MTAzN2Q2MzMyZDMzYTMwNjc5NGIxYjY4MDRiMjM>.
>>> You can find the local chapter application that was submitted to the
>>> OSMF here
>>> <https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/Applications/Oceania>
>>> .
>>>
>>> *Application review*
>>>
>>> As part of the application review process, the OSMF Board, namely Joost
>>> Schouppe and Rory McCann, have already reached out to the community via
>>> various channels to gauge the level of community support for the
>>> application. While they received positive responses, the response was
>>> limited. I think we can do better.
>>>
>>> *Establishing an OpenStreetMap working group*
>>>
>>> One of the concerns raised by the OSMF Board and others is that OSGeo
>>> Oceania might not be truly representative of the OSM community. One
>>> solution to address this concern is to establish an OSM focused working
>>> group made up of representatives from across the region. While I hinted at
>>> this in May, I am now formally proposing that we establish a working group.
>>>
>>> The working group is a good solution because it will allow a wider range
>>> of voices from the region, without the requirement that those voices have
>>> any affiliation with OSGeo Oceania. At the same time, the working group
>>> would be able to benefit from the resources, structure, and conference
>>> platform that OSGeo Oceania has already established.
>>>
>>> *I propose the following:*
>>>
>>>
>>>1.
>>>
>>>An initial meeting of interested parties at 12:00 pm AEST/2pm New
>>>Zealand/Fiji time
>>>
>>> <https://calendar.google.com/event?action=TEMPLATE=NjJzZ2o5ZjBrNmkzN2s0bmRodG5pdmU5MTQgZW5lZXJodXRAbQ=eneerhut%40gmail.com>
>>>this Thursday, July 23rd. The Google Meet link is in the calendar invite.
>>>If you're unable to make this time, let me know and I will arrange an
>>>additional meeting. Discussion via email is also acceptable.
>>>2.
>>>
>>>Formal establishment of an OSM working group and nomination of a
>>>leader to coordinate these efforts.
>>>3.
&g

Re: [talk-au] Show your support of OpenStreetMap in our region: OSMF Application 

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi again,

Andrew informs me that the calendar invite link doesn't work. I'll send out
invites to everyone who puts 'Yes' next to the question about volunteering
on the working group, or feel free to respond to this email requesting an
invite.

Cheers,

Ed

On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 at 16:49, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:

> Hi Oceania,
>
> *TLDR: Show your support for OpenStreetMap in Oceania by filling in this
> brief form
> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/16jnD0aNuiJA2lCi94G_wRye1-arPsqJCbiD__Q_UWlM/edit>,
> and if you're interested, volunteering to help create an OSM Oceania
> working group.*
>
> The purpose of this email is to gather support and volunteers to establish
> a local chapter of the OpenStreetMap Foundation
> <https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Main_Page> (OSMF) in Oceania. OSGeo
> Oceania <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Oceania> has been supporting the
> application, and the benefits and objectives of this Local Chapter have
> been shared with the Australia
> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2020-May/013840.html>,
> New Zealand
> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-nz/2020/000197.html>, and
> Oceania <https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania/2020-May/002291.html>
> talklists in earlier emails and on the Maptime Oceania Slack
> <https://join.slack.com/t/maptimeoceania/shared_invite/enQtNDU3MTU3ODkyMjU2LThiMWU4MjZjNjM0ZWRiMWZlNWE2OTZjYjM0ZTMzZDEwMzc5MTAzN2Q2MzMyZDMzYTMwNjc5NGIxYjY4MDRiMjM>.
> You can find the local chapter application that was submitted to the OSMF
> here
> <https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/Applications/Oceania>.
>
> *Application review*
>
> As part of the application review process, the OSMF Board, namely Joost
> Schouppe and Rory McCann, have already reached out to the community via
> various channels to gauge the level of community support for the
> application. While they received positive responses, the response was
> limited. I think we can do better.
>
> *Establishing an OpenStreetMap working group*
>
> One of the concerns raised by the OSMF Board and others is that OSGeo
> Oceania might not be truly representative of the OSM community. One
> solution to address this concern is to establish an OSM focused working
> group made up of representatives from across the region. While I hinted at
> this in May, I am now formally proposing that we establish a working group.
>
> The working group is a good solution because it will allow a wider range
> of voices from the region, without the requirement that those voices have
> any affiliation with OSGeo Oceania. At the same time, the working group
> would be able to benefit from the resources, structure, and conference
> platform that OSGeo Oceania has already established.
>
> *I propose the following:*
>
>
>1.
>
>An initial meeting of interested parties at 12:00 pm AEST/2pm New
>Zealand/Fiji time
>
> <https://calendar.google.com/event?action=TEMPLATE=NjJzZ2o5ZjBrNmkzN2s0bmRodG5pdmU5MTQgZW5lZXJodXRAbQ=eneerhut%40gmail.com>
>this Thursday, July 23rd. The Google Meet link is in the calendar invite.
>If you're unable to make this time, let me know and I will arrange an
>additional meeting. Discussion via email is also acceptable.
>2.
>
>Formal establishment of an OSM working group and nomination of a
>leader to coordinate these efforts.
>3.
>
>Notification to OSGeo Oceania that this working group has been
>established.
>4.
>
>Notification to the OSMF that this working group has been established
>and that it will seek to understand and represent stakeholders in Oceania's
>OSM community.
>5.
>
>Consultation period where the working group gathers input from
>throughout the region.
>6.
>
>Documentation of the working groups first priorities.
>
>
> The OSMF Board can then make a determination on whether to recognise OSGeo
> Oceania and by extension this working group as the local chapter for
> OpenStreetMap in Oceania.
>
> Thank you for your time and I hope you'll lend your support to this
> initiative.
>
> Edoardo Neerhut
>
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[talk-au] Show your support of OpenStreetMap in our region: OSMF Application 

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi Oceania,

*TLDR: Show your support for OpenStreetMap in Oceania by filling in this
brief form
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/16jnD0aNuiJA2lCi94G_wRye1-arPsqJCbiD__Q_UWlM/edit>,
and if you're interested, volunteering to help create an OSM Oceania
working group.*

The purpose of this email is to gather support and volunteers to establish
a local chapter of the OpenStreetMap Foundation
<https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Main_Page> (OSMF) in Oceania. OSGeo
Oceania <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Oceania> has been supporting the
application, and the benefits and objectives of this Local Chapter have
been shared with the Australia
<https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2020-May/013840.html>,
New Zealand
<https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-nz/2020/000197.html>, and
Oceania <https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/oceania/2020-May/002291.html>
talklists in earlier emails and on the Maptime Oceania Slack
<https://join.slack.com/t/maptimeoceania/shared_invite/enQtNDU3MTU3ODkyMjU2LThiMWU4MjZjNjM0ZWRiMWZlNWE2OTZjYjM0ZTMzZDEwMzc5MTAzN2Q2MzMyZDMzYTMwNjc5NGIxYjY4MDRiMjM>.
You can find the local chapter application that was submitted to the OSMF
here
<https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/Applications/Oceania>.

*Application review*

As part of the application review process, the OSMF Board, namely Joost
Schouppe and Rory McCann, have already reached out to the community via
various channels to gauge the level of community support for the
application. While they received positive responses, the response was
limited. I think we can do better.

*Establishing an OpenStreetMap working group*

One of the concerns raised by the OSMF Board and others is that OSGeo
Oceania might not be truly representative of the OSM community. One
solution to address this concern is to establish an OSM focused working
group made up of representatives from across the region. While I hinted at
this in May, I am now formally proposing that we establish a working group.

The working group is a good solution because it will allow a wider range of
voices from the region, without the requirement that those voices have any
affiliation with OSGeo Oceania. At the same time, the working group would
be able to benefit from the resources, structure, and conference platform
that OSGeo Oceania has already established.

*I propose the following:*


   1.

   An initial meeting of interested parties at 12:00 pm AEST/2pm New
   Zealand/Fiji time
   
<https://calendar.google.com/event?action=TEMPLATE=NjJzZ2o5ZjBrNmkzN2s0bmRodG5pdmU5MTQgZW5lZXJodXRAbQ=eneerhut%40gmail.com>
   this Thursday, July 23rd. The Google Meet link is in the calendar invite.
   If you're unable to make this time, let me know and I will arrange an
   additional meeting. Discussion via email is also acceptable.
   2.

   Formal establishment of an OSM working group and nomination of a leader
   to coordinate these efforts.
   3.

   Notification to OSGeo Oceania that this working group has been
   established.
   4.

   Notification to the OSMF that this working group has been established
   and that it will seek to understand and represent stakeholders in Oceania's
   OSM community.
   5.

   Consultation period where the working group gathers input from
   throughout the region.
   6.

   Documentation of the working groups first priorities.


The OSMF Board can then make a determination on whether to recognise OSGeo
Oceania and by extension this working group as the local chapter for
OpenStreetMap in Oceania.

Thank you for your time and I hope you'll lend your support to this
initiative.

Edoardo Neerhut
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Re: [talk-au] resignation from OSGeo Oceania

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Very sad to hear the news John, but you've been an incredibly positive
force in the community.

Thanks for making OSGeo Oceania possible. Thank you also for your
positivity, willingness to hear all points of view, and tireless
persistence.




On Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:40 John Bryant,  wrote:

> Hi folks, just a quick note to let you know that I decided yesterday to
> resign from the OSGeo Oceania board of directors. I won't be continuing
> with board business, but I'll continue to contribute as a community member
> however I can.
>
> Looking forward to continuing to work on this awesome community with you
> all.
>
> Cheers
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[talk-au] The beginnings of an Oceania OSMF local chapter

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi everyone,


There have been conversations in the OSM community about creating a more
formalised group to coordinate OSM activities in the region. This would be
important step to getting recognition as a local chapter of the
OpenStreetMap Foundation which would in turn allow us to collaborate more
closely and potentially be eligible for grants and support going forward.


By formalised group, we were thinking of a working group that would be part
of OSGeo Oceania. An initial discussion was initiated here:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2020-May/013823.html.


Please note that this application relates to the application we made to the
OSMF to have OSGeo recognised as a local chapter:
 https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/Applications.


Some of the objectives of a working group we discussed include:



   - Growing the number of people contributing to OSM as well as the
   overall number of edits in our region.
   - Coordinating with authorities and companies in the region to get
   access to new data for OSM, but also to show how OSM can be used by these
   organisations.
   - Introducing students and any interested members of the public to
   mapping
   - Coordinating mapping events to focus on thematic mapping tasks such as
   humanitarian mapping, bushfire mapping, wheelchair accessibility etc.
   - Serving as a point of contact for anyone around the world or locally
   interested in engaging the Oceania OSM community.
   - Running and maintaining infrastructure such as tile servers that could
   help to grow OSM in our region.


To get things moving forward:

   - Do you think an OSM focused working group under OSGeo Oceania is a
   good idea?
   - What other objectives do you think are important?
   - Would you be willing to lead this working group or be part of it?
   Leading the working group would require a formalization of the objectives
   and the working group team.


Looking at the direction other countries and regions around the world have
taken, I’m confident an OSM working group and eventually a local chapter
would be a huge step forward for OSM as a whole in Oceania.


Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.


Edoardo


Note: I will be sharing this message in multiple channels throughout
Oceania to make sure we engage a wide and representative audience.
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Re: [talk-au] Murray River mapping by a newby?

[Edoardo Neerhut]

I'm not the best to provide advice here Ian, so I'll wait for others to
chime in, but I just want to say welcome!

This is an excellent introductory email and I am sure everyone will
appreciate your considered approach to editing in OpenStreetMap and your
enthusiasm to help.

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 19:32, Little Maps  wrote:

> Hello everyone, I’m Ian, I’m new to this group and pretty new to OSM.
> Being stuck inside for the foreseeable future, I’m keen to do something
> useful.
>
> I live on the Murray River and have noticed that many sections of the
> river along the NSW-Vic border could benefit from some extra work. In lots
> of places, the boundaries of the river, local government areas, reserves
> and tree cover are all mapped differently, creating a mess of intertwining
> boundaries. I hope I’m not offending anyone who has done great work on the
> river in the past.
>
> I’ve got a lot of time on my hands and am happy to try to improve the
> mapping, taking on small chunks at a time. (I imagine it’s an enormous job
> to do it all.) However I realise that it would be easy to stuff up a lot of
> adjoining relationships so am keen to solicit advice from this sage group.
>
> Is this a task you think worthy of working on? Is it something that can be
> done by a relative newby? (I worked as a research scientist for 25 years
> before I retired, but not in spatial sciences, so I’m used to working
> accurately and methodically on big projects). More to the point, if the
> task is worthwhile, is it possible to invite a mentor or two to provide
> advice and feedback on techniques and results before I make any big
> changes, so the results reach your high standards?
>
> Thanks very much for your interest, I look forward to your feedback. Best
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Re: [talk-au] A Ground Truth Generator

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Also, you might have seen it, but the API has both lookat and closeto
<https://www.mapillary.com/developer/api-documentation/#search-images>
parameters.
This could be useful if you wanted to give the user an option between an
image looking at that lat/lon or just the nearest image.

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 12:35, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:

> Hi Fink,
>
> Ed from Mapillary here. Nicely done!
>
> Curious what use cases you have in mind. Both Mapillary and OpenStreetCam
> layers can be accessed in iD/JOSM, but not so easily with a lat/lon.
> Not a criticism at all, just wondering what prompted this idea in case
> there is anything we can do with API/OSM tools to help you further.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 12:27, Fink Hardly <
> groundtruthgenerator@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is a helpful, and will always be free, tool I created to help locate
>> ground truth. You go to this website https://groundtruthgenerator.net,
>> input a set of coordinates in the decimal form (separated by a comma ie
>> something like 47.617975, -122.194067), place your date range, then click
>> submit (your browser will prompt you to allow pop ups and you must for this
>> to work). It pops up two web pages, Mapillary and OpenStreetCam, centered
>> on your coordinate you had input giving quick access to ground truth tracks
>> for the area searched. Try it out and let me know in this thread if you
>> recommend any improvements. Thanks AU OSM community!
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Re: [talk-au] A Ground Truth Generator

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi Fink,

Ed from Mapillary here. Nicely done!

Curious what use cases you have in mind. Both Mapillary and OpenStreetCam
layers can be accessed in iD/JOSM, but not so easily with a lat/lon.
Not a criticism at all, just wondering what prompted this idea in case
there is anything we can do with API/OSM tools to help you further.

Cheers,

Ed


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> ground truth. You go to this website https://groundtruthgenerator.net,
> input a set of coordinates in the decimal form (separated by a comma ie
> something like 47.617975, -122.194067), place your date range, then click
> submit (your browser will prompt you to allow pop ups and you must for this
> to work). It pops up two web pages, Mapillary and OpenStreetCam, centered
> on your coordinate you had input giving quick access to ground truth tracks
> for the area searched. Try it out and let me know in this thread if you
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Re: [talk-au] [OSGeo Oceania] FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019 tree planting day

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Ok thanks for clarifying.

On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 16:04, adam steer  wrote:

> Hi Ed (and all)
>
> Thanks! I’m filling out a filming permission form for 14/15/16 August.
>
> Ideally flights will take place the day before, or early on the same day
> before people arrive (weather dependent); it won’t be practical to
> undertake mapping missions and comply with CASA regulations while people
> are planting / moving around on the site. The day after is there just in
> case weather isn’t kind… and we might want to capture trees at the start of
> their life as well.
>
> Just had a thought strike me - is anyone in academia listening who wants
> to start a project on yellow box woodland development? good opportunity
> here… ;)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 15:44, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:
>
>> Love your work Adam. And thanks to Tony and Mick as well.
>>
>> In terms of the pre-planting aerial survey, would you do that on the day
>> itself if permission is granted?
>>
>> On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 11:52, adam steer  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I'm excited to report that the FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019 tree planting
>>> program has been scheduled for 15 August 2020. Here is the Parks Victoria
>>> event information:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.parkconnect.vic.gov.au/Volunteer/public-planned-activity/?id=c38ff798-914c-ea11-b698-0003ff6f5db4
>>>
>>> If you want to attend and plant trees, great! You need to register as a
>>> volunteer with Parks Victoria using the ‘Register with ParkConnect’ button
>>> on the link above.
>>>
>>> We hope to run some free, volunteer-run mapping events on/around the
>>> day. Full details TBA, some ideas are:
>>> - conduct a pre-planting aerial survey (subject to Parks Victoria
>>> approval)
>>> - collect locations of all the trees (potentially also running a hands
>>> on QField / Input workshop)
>>> - add trees to OSM (along with any other salient features that are
>>> missing)
>>>
>>> Ideally everyone attending will also help plant trees - so please
>>> register with ParkConnect if you plan to attend in any capacity.
>>>
>>> Again, thanks to this community and especially the FOSS4G SotM Oceania
>>> organising committee for their moral and financial support. I'd like to
>>> specifically thank Tony Forster, who first suggested this project and has
>>> done much of the on-ground logistics (getting support of Parks Victoria and
>>> linking us up with local organisations / suppliers); and Mick van de Vreede
>>> of Parks Victoria, who has help line a lot of stuff up to help this happen.
>>>
>>> Please feel free to ask any questions by responding to list posts, or
>>> contact me directly.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
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Re: [talk-au] [OSGeo Oceania] FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019 tree planting day

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Love your work Adam. And thanks to Tony and Mick as well.

In terms of the pre-planting aerial survey, would you do that on the day
itself if permission is granted?

On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 11:52, adam steer  wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I'm excited to report that the FOSS4G SotM Oceania 2019 tree planting
> program has been scheduled for 15 August 2020. Here is the Parks Victoria
> event information:
>
>
> https://www.parkconnect.vic.gov.au/Volunteer/public-planned-activity/?id=c38ff798-914c-ea11-b698-0003ff6f5db4
>
> If you want to attend and plant trees, great! You need to register as a
> volunteer with Parks Victoria using the ‘Register with ParkConnect’ button
> on the link above.
>
> We hope to run some free, volunteer-run mapping events on/around the day.
> Full details TBA, some ideas are:
> - conduct a pre-planting aerial survey (subject to Parks Victoria approval)
> - collect locations of all the trees (potentially also running a hands on
> QField / Input workshop)
> - add trees to OSM (along with any other salient features that are missing)
>
> Ideally everyone attending will also help plant trees - so please register
> with ParkConnect if you plan to attend in any capacity.
>
> Again, thanks to this community and especially the FOSS4G SotM Oceania
> organising committee for their moral and financial support. I'd like to
> specifically thank Tony Forster, who first suggested this project and has
> done much of the on-ground logistics (getting support of Parks Victoria and
> linking us up with local organisations / suppliers); and Mick van de Vreede
> of Parks Victoria, who has help line a lot of stuff up to help this happen.
>
> Please feel free to ask any questions by responding to list posts, or
> contact me directly.
>
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>
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Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Missing Maps/OSM rep?

[Edoardo Neerhut]

I'll be in New Zealand for FOSS4G SotM Oceania
, but keep me posted for the next one as
I would love to help out.

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 13:14, Vilppola, Ritva  wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
>
>
> WSP is holding a Missing Maps Mapathon next Thursday 5-8pm and we’re just
> wondering if there is anyone in Melbourne available to rep for OSM/Missing
> Maps for the evening?
>
>
>
> We will also be getting in a speaker from MSF to attend so it would be
> great to have someone from OSM promote what it’s all about and ways people
> can get involved locally!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
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Re: [talk-au] Map features for OSM & new street-level imagery in Australia

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Thanks Sebastian.
Feel free to link anyone to me directly.

Generally it is someone from the asset management team who is aware of
image collection that the council is doing. Often someone with a GIS
background/role description. Happy to chat further.

Good luck!

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 21:51, Sebastian Spiess  wrote:

> Hi, this is great. Many thanks to all involved.
>
> I would be keen to ask or propose the Northern beaches Council to do the
> same.
>
> Do you have any contact persons that I could refer the Council men to?
>
> Note: I have no idea how to actually approach the council (the
> appropriate person) however I'm not shy of trying. Maybe there are some
> suggestions here?
>
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Re: [talk-au] Map features for OSM & new street-level imagery in Australia

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Permissions have already been granted Graeme for Mapillary to provide the
imagery and data to OSM. You can read more about rights for OSM with
Mapillary images and data here <https://www.mapillary.com/osm>.

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 07:32, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

> Do we need the various Councils' permission to use this data, or are we
> jut using it out of Mapillary, which I believe is "legal"?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 at 06:55, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:
>
>> Excellent Daniel.
>> It is likely some 2019 imagery will be imported this year as well for the
>> Port Adelaide area, so hopefully that makes it a bit easier to pick up some
>> addresses.
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 23:49, Daniel O'Connor 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Port Adelaide Enfield*
>>>>
>>>> The City of Port Adelaide Enfield has uploaded 228,000 images and just
>>>> shy of 1,000 km of coverage. They are using the uploaded imagery to update
>>>> their traffic sign inventory.
>>>>
>>>> This imagery consists of road surveys but also surveys of the footpaths
>>>> taken on quad bikes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That's... a pretty amazing level of detail! A few other contributors and
>>> I have chipped away at buildings in the council; and we've maybe got 40%?
>>> coverage. Getting addresses onto those or number of levels seemed out of
>>> reach by ground survey.
>>>
>>> Will be interesting to see what can be derived from the two datasets
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Re: [talk-au] Map features for OSM & new street-level imagery in Australia

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Excellent Daniel.
It is likely some 2019 imagery will be imported this year as well for the
Port Adelaide area, so hopefully that makes it a bit easier to pick up some
addresses.

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 23:49, Daniel O'Connor 
wrote:

>
>>
>> *Port Adelaide Enfield*
>>
>> The City of Port Adelaide Enfield has uploaded 228,000 images and just
>> shy of 1,000 km of coverage. They are using the uploaded imagery to update
>> their traffic sign inventory.
>>
>> This imagery consists of road surveys but also surveys of the footpaths
>> taken on quad bikes.
>>
>>
>>
> That's... a pretty amazing level of detail! A few other contributors and I
> have chipped away at buildings in the council; and we've maybe got 40%?
> coverage. Getting addresses onto those or number of levels seemed out of
> reach by ground survey.
>
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[talk-au] Map features for OSM & new street-level imagery in Australia

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi everyone,


I wanted to reach out to let everyone know about two updates related to
street-level imagery in OSM.


*Imagery locations*

There is new imagery that has come in that may be useful for your OSM
editing. This imagery can be accessed by toggling the Mapillary image
overlay in iD Editor and through the Mapillary plugin in JOSM.

*Logan City Council*

Logan City Council has uploaded 4.4 million images of road surveys which is
about 2,300 km of coverage. New images continue to come in as their asset
management teams drive their network. The images help Logan determine
priority areas for road and maintenance.


The bulk of this imagery was captured towards the end of 2017. The latest
imagery they are uploading however is all from 2019.


*Port Adelaide Enfield*

The City of Port Adelaide Enfield has uploaded 228,000 images and just shy
of 1,000 km of coverage. They are using the uploaded imagery to update
their traffic sign inventory.

This imagery consists of road surveys but also surveys of the footpaths
taken on quad bikes.


A lot of it is from 2018 and they are looking to upload 2019 imagery as
well.


*Melbourne metro area*

Mapillary and Kaart have been working together to capture much of the
Melbourne metro area. Over 1 million images have been captured over the
last few months. The imagery can be viewed by filtering Melbourne coverage
from September 25, 2019 onwards.


*Map features in OSM*

You might also be interested in an experimental feature we have at the
moment. We have forked iD editor and added a layer for our map feature
data. Map features include things like crosswalks, fire hydrants, and
bicycle parking. The quality varies between objects and locations, but
hopefully you find it helpful. In coming months we will work to integrate
this into the main branch of iD Editor so that everyone can make use of it.


Currently you need to request map features to have them available in a
location. I have already made them available in Port Adelaide and Logan
council areas.

You can find the full range of map features we currently detect here
.



Many thanks to the cities of Port Adelaide Enfield and Logan for pushing
the case to make this imagery available to a wider audience.


I hope the new imagery is helpful for OSM editing in Australia. Let me know
if you have any questions.


Cheers,


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Re: [talk-au] Discussion H: public transport – the end game

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Frederik, the mailing list has been very patient and responsive to every
email Herbert has sent. They have provided many thoughtful and positive
responses and suggestions on how he can engage with the mailing list.

There has been no response from him.

For the health of the mailing list, it would make sense to limit his
communications so we're not bombarded daily with his emails. Herbert if you
wish to respond and acknowledge this email, please do prove me wrong. The
community welcomes new OpenStreetMappers.

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 17:11, Frederik Ramm  wrote:

> Ewen,
>
> thank you for trying to be constructive in this matter. Herbert seems to
> have considerable difficulties with the medium It sounds like he has
> been collecting issues for a while and now tries to resolve them all at
> once, which can overload the capacity of the mailing list for reasonable
> discussion, as well as his own.
>
> Reaching out in the way you have done it here is commendable and I hope
> that Herbert will take you up on the offer. I would like to appeal to
> those who are already calling for a "mailing list ban" to have more
> patience. Mailing lists can be difficult to handle for someone who is
> new to the game and has perhaps spent a lifetime using other, more
> formalised forms of communication. Yes, there can be times when we need
> to kick someone out because productive discussion is not possible, but I
> feel that it we should try and be welcoming even to people who don't
> "get" us at their first attempt. They can turn out to be valuable
> members of the community, bringing different views to the table and
> broadening our horizon.
>
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Re: [talk-au] Discussion H: public transport – the end game

[Edoardo Neerhut]

+1 to what Ewen said.

If we don't hear back from you I am in favour of blocking your emails.

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 09:39, Ewen Hill  wrote:

> Herbert,
> Can we slow down a little and finalise one of these items and then
> move on to the next please. We don't get much feedback from you after a
> number of us have offered suggestions. There are no "thanks", no, "If you
> look at this relation/way then this appears different".
>
> I would be only too happy to discuss offline some of your issues in a
> Skype or email or any other method you wish. I, along with others would
> like to know what the end game is. Are you doing a paper on OSM or are you
> a committed editor or new to OSM. A lot of your questions could be answered
> by Google or via the vast amount of information in the Wiki.
>
>   I look forward to hearing from you off the list.
>
> Ewen
>
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 09:23, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au <
> talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>> # Discussion H: public transport – the end game
>>
>> Bus routes (relations) were changed in the ACT in 2019 with the
>> introduction of Civic to Gungahlin light rail, effective 29 April 2019. The
>> bus network in Canberra changed from a mesh network (bumble buses) to a
>> “hub and spoke” system, the “Rapid” bus network. Now, fast buses connect
>> town centres and you change for local connections. This was a radical
>> change with many bus routes being abolished and news one established. The
>> new “spoke” routes are name R1, R2, … to R10. The route R1 is not a bus
>> route at all but the Civic to Gungahlin light rail.
>>
>> Summary of changes required to OSM relations:
>> - Many routes deleted
>> - New routes added
>> - Nomenclature of all routes changed.
>>
>> Resources
>> 1. A detailed, folded poster map that shows all the new routes. I am
>> aware this is almost useless for the online community. Locals can get a
>> copy for free.
>> *Canberra Transport Guide: your guide to Canberra’s bus and light rail
>> network*, Transport Canberra, 2019.
>> 2. A DINA4 overview map of the Rapid bus network can be found on the ACT
>> Government website for a map.
>>
>> https://www.transport.act.gov.au/getting-around/timetables/routes-by-number
>> 3. The Transport Canberra website has a wealth of information about the
>> bus network in general.
>> https://www.transport.act.gov.au/
>>
>>
>> QUESTION
>> An audit and possible correction of all bus routes are required, similar
>> to the audit of all bike routes (discussion G). Some routes may have been
>> changed already and others are forgotten.
>> **How to do this?**
>> I am hoping that somebody may have experience with this sort of problem
>> in other cities.
>>
>> I welcome your comments.
>> keywords: Australia, ACT, bus network, ACT Government, TCCS, light rail,
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Re: [talk-au] topic A: the platform itself

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Thanks for bringing this up Herbert.

*Similar sentiments*
This has actually been bothering me the last few weeks as I started to
realise how much of my day is spent reading through talklists that do not
have relevance to me or that I do not have time to respond to. For those of
us subscribed to multiple talklists, it becomes a very time consuming and
inefficient communication method.

The problem is that you need to read every single one in case you miss
something relevant. There are lot of good conversations taking place and I
wish I had time to engage more, but I need to be selective.

*The platform*
I like the idea of a forum which can be categorised and allow the viewer to
make quicker decisions about which topics that would like to engage with.
Whether that is the OpenStreetMap forum or something else doesn't bother
me. Although the OpenStreetMap forum would make sense so that people can
find it easily.

Slack is very convenient, but it is not good for important discussions
because the messages get archived unless you sign up to a cost prohibitive
plan which our community would not be able to afford.

*Setting a standard*
I am not sure any of this can be dictated, but it is a good discussion to
have and I would be interested to see how the rest of the community feels.
Of course asking here is inherently going to target those already using the
talklists, so I will bring this up in other places as well.

Overall I support the interest to discuss this on a more efficient,
intuitive platform.

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 09:10, David Wales  wrote:

> I am a member of some international OSM Slack channels.
>
> However, because it requires a whole different app (which I only have
> space for on my computer), I only check it monthly at best.
>
> On the other hand, I read every talk-au message within a few days of
> original posting, because they all arrive in my email inbox on my phone.
>
> If the number of talk-au emails reaches overwhelming levels, it might be
> necessary to investigate other solutions. However, I don't think we have
> reached that point yet.
>
> If we ever did explore alternatives, I would prefer an open platform,
> which we can host ourselves, rather than Slack or some other proprietary
> system.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
> On 20 September 2019 4:31:44 pm AEST, Frederik Ramm 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 9/20/19 03:14, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au wrote:
>>
>>> I will post several concerns and information on several issues, but the
>>> first is this platform itself.
>>>
>>
>> You call this platform a "forum" which is ok in the abstract sense, but
>> note that there is actually an Australia forum in addition to this
>> Australia mailing list
>> (https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=24). The forum
>> provides a slightly different user experience but is used less.
>>
>> In other countries, people have set up Slack channels or Facebook groups
>> or even more esoteric channels of communication, in addition of or as a
>> replacement for mailing lists - browse
>> https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index if you want to get an idea.
>>
>> There's no strict rule about where the OSM community should discuss
>> their issues, however media that requires prior registration with a
>> third-party entity - like Slack or Facebook - are sometimes frowned upon
>> as they give control over who can participate to that third party and
>> might require the participant to agree to wide-ranging exploitation of
>> their personal data by a commercial entity.
>>
>> In Germany where I hail from, the forum and the mailing list are used by
>> about the same number of (but largely different) people, and since the
>> total number of contributors is large enough to guarantee lively
>> discussion on both, that's totally fine. Germany also has mailing lists
>> for individual states but they are used very little, and even
>> state-specific issues would often be discussed on the nationwide list to
>> ensure they get enough attention.
>>
>> Speaking very generally, OSM has achieved the success it has with a
>> "just do it" attitude: Instead of saying, 15 years ago, "BEFORE we
>> start, let's come up with a good data scheme and a feature catalogue",
>> people said "let's just start and then fix things as we go along".
>>
>> My recommendation would be to just stat discussing whatever needs
>> discussing on the talk-au mailing list and branch out as the need
>> arises. If something is worth discussing then a non-ideal UI should not
>> be the blocker, and if it is, then maybe the issue is not so important.
>>
>> Bye
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Re: [talk-au] [FOSS4G-Oceania] GHG mitigation and FOSS4G SotM Oceania

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Fantastic work on this Adam. Parks Victoria would be a wonderful
organisation to fund offset with. Much better than a Cayman Island
registered organisation with plantations in the Amazon. Hopefully the costs
of this approach are within the real of possibility for us.

On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 15:26, adam steer  wrote:

> hey folks
>
> waking this conversation up again - there’s some interest from Parks
> Victoria around applying funding from a GHG offset scheme to restore yellow
> box woodland - which is direct, local and observable.
>
> I started making some calculations here:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGcpUCO6pHhKutoCh8qh1FcIrnXjyYQ_kOEIf5nCnGw/edit?usp=sharing
>
> …using the ICAO flight emissions calculator. So far we’re up to about 48t
> CO2 based on my assumptions around who comes from where - and no additions
> from south pacific islands yet. If you have any input on those numbers
> please add comments.
>
> Next step is to work more on how much money is appropriate for a programme
> to sequester 48t of CO2 based on existing offset programmes. Then, have a
> chat with Parks Victoria around how far that amount goes.
>
> I’ll add those estimates in the same sheet.
>
> Regards
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [talk-au] Indigenous/traditional naming mapathon in Melbourne

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Including this link would have been a good idea:
https://www.meetup.com/Maptime-Melbourne/events/263741096/

On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 13:31, Edoardo Neerhut  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Maptime Melbourne has confirmed the next meetup. It will be held August
> 20th in downtown Melbourne with a focus on adding Indigenous/traditional
> names to natural features like mountains and rivers in OpenStreetMap.
>
> *When: *Tuesday, August 20th at at 17:30 for ~2 hours.
> *Where:* The Commons QV <https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6636931507>.
> A lovely coworking space in the heart of Melbourne.
> *What: *Craig Molyneux and Ewen Hill have pointed us to thee VICNAMES
> database <https://maps.land.vic.gov.au/lassi/VicnamesUI.jsp> which we
> will use as a source. Each participant will be able to go through a few of
> the traditional names listed, find the location in OpenStreetMap and add
> any associated traditional names. We're aiming to have a few speakers at
> the start with experience in mapping aboriginal culture and heritage who
> will walk us through some of the considerations.
>
> If you're free, we'd love to see you there.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
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Re: [talk-au] Local Chapter

[Edoardo Neerhut]

In situations where there isn't any existing representation currently, I
would see an entity as helping generate that activity. If I was a new
mapper/geospatial professional in any of those locations, I would feel more
comfortable starting out knowing that there were existing
networks/knowledge I could tap into/contribute to.

On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 at 02:20, Sebastian S.  wrote:

> What is the benefit of including these regions if there is no
> representation? (Based in the assumption that no one will claim
> representation)
>
> What about an opt in/out for these regions? If at a later point in time a
> separate chapter wants to form they should be able to. Or maybe the general
> view is that a larger chapter can achieve more for these smaller regions.
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> On 2 June 2019 11:29:19 am GMT+08:00, Graeme Fitzpatrick <
> graemefi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 1 Jun 2019 at 20:08, John Bryant  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Re: geographic extent, one of the definitions we've been using for other
>>> purposes (eg conference travel grants) is the UN geoscheme for Oceania:
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_geoscheme_for_Oceania
>>>
>>
>> Interesting bit I just noticed off that map / list ...
>>
>> Sub-regions are A-NZ, Micro-, Mela- & Polynesia, none of which include
>> Hawaii, but Honolulu is listed as one of the largest cities?
>>
>> I think we would definitely be stepping on toes if we tried to pinch
>> Hawaii! :-) (although I don't know how Guam, New Caledonia etc would work -
>> as mentioned, Oceania or US & France? I can see that there is a New
>> Caledonia mailing list, but no separate list for Hawaii or any of the other
>> Pacific nations.)
>>
>> But I personally agree that we need to reach out and canvass any local
>>> communities that may exist, for their thoughts. We do have some reach via
>>> existing OSGeo community, mailing lists, travel grant program, and other
>>> networks.
>>>
>>> After putting in our best effort, if there are countries where there is
>>> no feedback, are we in a position to form a regional chapter including
>>> those countries, under the assumption that we aren't stepping on any toes?
>>>
>>
>> I would think we'd be OK, as long as we can show that we've made the
>> effort?
>>
>> & if, some years down the track, "Palau" (picking a name at random)
>> wanted to form it's own chapter, I would think we would then offer them
>> every assistance possible :-)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Graeme
>>
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Re: [talk-au] Local Chapter

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Thanks for the effort you've put into this Andrew.

Simon, you raise a good point! What do you all think is an effective way to
get this input? Reach out to people we know are active mappers in Oceania
and see if they would like their country to be represented?

On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 21:18, Andrew Harvey 
wrote:

> On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 19:12, Simon Poole  wrote:
>
>> I think my immediate and largest concern if I was reviewing the
>> application (which I am not) would be: Oceania isn't just about Australia.
>>
>
> I would expect nothing less from the OSMF.
>
> Have OSM communities outside of AUS (and NZ) even been addressed? While
>> not totally cast in stone, there is an assumption that territorial
>> chapters are awarded exclusive rights for the territories in question
>> and I'm fairly sure the application will blow up in a big way if this is
>> not considered.
>>
>
> I agree. There has been bit of discussion within the OSGeo Oceania
> committee regarding this.
>
> My opinion is we should only include countries where the local OSM
> community actively voice they want it.
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Re: [talk-au] Sydney mapathon

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi Dion,

Glad to hear interest in some Missing Maps mapping in Sydney.

We've run quite a few humanitarian events in Melbourne now and one thing
that really helped was getting on board a relevant partner. In our case,
The Global Health Alliance Melbourne has assisted by providing a venue,
helping to promote, and bringing on board partner institutions who can give
insights into some of the places we're mapping remotely.

There are probably a lot of international NGOs with offices in Sydney who
would love to participate.

As Phil said, happy to chat over Slack and bounce ideas.

Cheers,

Ed

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 09:47, Phil Wyatt  wrote:

> There are also a few folks in NSW on the Maptime Oceania Slack channel –
> maybe jump on there as well if you need some assistance.
>
>
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdblsyijB0WB9PYZw6EdVUAyaiNRFeWoNimi3haasGRPi6TVQ/viewform
>
>
>
> *From:* David Wales [mailto:daviewa...@disroot.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, 11 March 2019 9:38 AM
> *To:* OSM-Au
> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Sydney mapathon
>
>
>
> Hi Dion,
>
> I would be interested in participating.
> I don't know of I count as experienced, but I'm happy to help any newbies!
>
> Regards,
> David Wales
>
> On 11 March 2019 8:05:58 am AEDT, Dion Moult  wrote:
>
> Good morning all!
>
> I recently had a chat with Ritva from WSP in Brisbane, who told me how
> they organised mapathons as part of the missing maps initiative in Brisbane.
>
> I was inspired by this and checked the upcoming events page on missing
> maps (http://www.missingmaps.org/events/) but did not see any events
> listed in the Sydney region (did I miss something perhaps?)
>
> I'm wondering if there are any other Sydneysiders who are keen on a
> mapathon, and if there are any experienced Sydney mappers who can help lead
> such a mapathon and guide newcomers (I find that I am quite uncertain when
> mapping things on HOTOSM Tasks, due to the non-city like nature of the
> satellite images). I think there will be some the architecture company I
> work at who would be interested in participating, and although I can't
> speak for WSP, they have a Sydney branch who I assume might be interested
> in joining. I can help organise things like venue and catering.
>
> Thoughts? Volunteers?
>
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[talk-au] FOSS4G SotM 2018 Workshops

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Hi everyone,

90 days left until the inaugural FOSS4G SotM Oceania
. With half the tickets sold already, the
conference is shaping up to be a memorable few days.

The committee would like to draw your attention to the workshops that we
have lined up for November 20th. Workshops are an opportunity to get
hands-on training covering a range of geospatial areas. Each workshop is
run by an experienced professional with topics including *OpenStreetMap,
Mapbox, geoservers on AWS, R, python in QGIS, and remote sensing*. This is
by no means an exhaustive list, so please take a look at the full list
 and register here
.

If you have any questions on workshops or anything FOSS4G SotM Oceania, let
us know.

Happy mapping,

Ed & the FOSS4G SotM Oceania team
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Re: [talk-au] OSM/RGSQ Mapping Days - Call for OSM Mentors

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Good initiative Dean. All the best with the event.

If it becomes an ongoing thing in Brisbane, creating a Maptime Chapter
might be worthwhile. We've got one up and running in Melbourne
 and it sounds
like Sydney and Adelaide may be following shortly. It's a good platform for
introducing anything related to maps. If you're on Slack, you can join the
Maptime Australia team that Phil created.

On 6 June 2017 at 21:46, David Dean  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I am looking for mentors and/or participants for a pair of 'Mapping Days'
> in two weeks (Wed/Thu Jun 21/22) in Milton, Brisbane with the Royal
> Geographic Society of Queensland (http://www.rgsq.org.au/). I am
> particular interested in finding another person or two who is familiar with
> OpenStreetMap to help me run the show and act as mentors for the 9 or so
> RGSQ members who will be new to OSM.
>
> I am planning on conducting a day of armchair mapping and a day of survey
> mapping around the Milton Area. More details are available on the OSM wiki
> pages at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brisbane/Mapping_
> Parties/2017-07_RGSQ_Mapping_Days.
>
> If anyone is interested in helping out as a mentor (at no cost to you), or
> wish to attend as a participant (cost is $20 to cover RGSQ admin costs),
> please let me know as soon as you can.
>
> Sorry for the short notice!
>
> - David Dean
>
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Re: [talk-au] Secondary roads are of primary importance.

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Dashcam footage can also be uploaded to Mapillary as long as you have an
accompanying GPS track. Street signs that reveal turn restrictions an speed
limits can the be identified automatically in many instances. The
detections then appear in both iD and JOSM.

Action cameras and smartphones can be used to gather the same data.

Disclaimer: I work for Mapillary.

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Nick Hocking 
wrote:

> Secondary roads often have high speed limits and are connected to low
> speed residential roads. This can cause issues with cars slowing in front
> of fast moving cars and cars crossing in front of traffic.
>
> For this reason there are many intersections on secondary roads that have
> no-u-turn or no-right-turn restrictions. Often the restrictions are time
> limited depending on whether you are travelling to the city, in the
> morning. or back from it in the evening.
>
> A lot of these restrictions are not yet mapped in OSM and will cause
> irritating and incorrect (and often dangerous) route advise for visitors to
> an area. I believe that checking all seconday roads in the larger cities
> (and wherever visitors may travel) would be really usefull in making OSM
> better.
>
> First, use an online router to rout from one end of the secondary road to
> the other. Any "squiggles" where the router takes you off the road and then
> straight back on it, will almost certainly be due to missing maxspeed tags,
> where the router is using a higer default speed for the segment that has no
> maxspeed tag.  These are easily fixed by survey.  Then do the same for the
> reverse route.
>
> Next a really usefull tool is a dash cam with embedded lat/long and audio
> (E.G Garmin nuvicam or dezlcam).
>
> Drive the route and voice annotate all turn restrictions as you see them
> (sometimes the dashcam resolution is a bit poor at speed and the signs may
> not be easy to read).   Then use JOSM, with LPI base maps and LPI imagery,
> along with your own dashcam imagery/audio to improve OSM for that road.
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Re: [talk-au] The Australian Productivity Commission public inquiry on Data Availability and Use.

[Edoardo Neerhut]

Thanks for sharing this Nev. Will put in a submission.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Nev Wedding  wrote:

> for info…
> The public inquiry will investigate ways to improve the availability and
> use of public and private sector data.
> The Australian Productivity Commission has released an issues paper and is
> asking for feedback.
> Initial submissions are due by Friday 29 July 2016.
>
> http://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/current/data-access
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