[talk-au] Tagging of Park signs
Hi all, just wondering if anyone has any suggestions on to tag these (and similar) signs: http://docs.brisbane.qld.gov.au/standard-drawings/201507_-_bsd-10506_a_park_signage_-_ordinance.pdf http://docs.brisbane.qld.gov.au/standard-drawings/201507_-_bsd-10510_a_park_directional_signage_-_sheet_5_of_6_-_horizontal_standard.pdf http://docs.brisbane.qld.gov.au/standard-drawings/201507_-_bsd-10510_a_park_directional_signage_-_sheet_6_of_6_-_vertical_alternative.pdf (These were obtained from https://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/planning-and-building/planning-guidelines-and-tools/planning-guidelines/standard-drawings ) I looked in the wiki and the only relevant thing I found was https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Asign but it barely documented. Thanks Reuben ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Merging of Imported Address nodes with Ways and Relations
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I didn't actually do the import, I just want to consolidate nodes that were created in the import with existing features. On 22/11/19 5:53 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: Do you have an example? I don't quite understand what you mean by combining the nodes? Combining the nodes with what? Is this about if the address point should exist on a dedicated node or on a building or other amenity or poi? On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 at 15:20, Reuben via Talk-au mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: I am just asking about what is the preferred action for combining the nodes imported as part of an address import. ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brisbane_City_Council_Property_and_Address_Import in this instance, but could be applied to others) 1. Moving the tags from the imported nodes to the way/relation and deleting the imported node 2. Duplicating the tags and leaving the imported node intact My preference is 1, as this means less redundant nodes. Thoughts? Reuben ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Merging of Imported Address nodes with Ways and Relations
On 22/11/19 5:53 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: Do you have an example? I don't quite understand what you mean by combining the nodes? Combining the nodes with what? Is this about if the address point should exist on a dedicated node or on a building or other amenity or poi? There were nodes created from the import (I was not a part of this import), I want to know if the community considers it appropriate to conflate the nodes with existing features or leave them. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Merging of Imported Address nodes with Ways and Relations
I am just asking about what is the preferred action for combining the nodes imported as part of an address import. ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brisbane_City_Council_Property_and_Address_Import in this instance, but could be applied to others) 1. Moving the tags from the imported nodes to the way/relation and deleting the imported node 2. Duplicating the tags and leaving the imported node intact My preference is 1, as this means less redundant nodes. Thoughts? Reuben ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Are we allowed to use PTV datasets (CC 4.0)?
Hi, just thought I would mention if you get the waiver that you could use https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GO-Sync to manage in the conflation. I am one of the developers and plan on doing a lot of work on it over the summer. If you need help, send me an email. Thanks Reuben On 14/9/19 10:01 pm, Aaron Fang Shenhao wrote: Thank you both for the helpful info! I'll get onto sending the waiver letter to PTV. Once it comes back I'll make sure to update the wiki and report back. I've summarised the number of stops and routes in the dataset for anyone who is interested. Transport Medium ??? No. stops No. routes ??? Metropolitan Train ??? 222 99 Metropolitan Tram ??? 167373 Metropolitan Bus ??? 18241 354 Regional Train ??? 110 206 Regional Bus ??? 6644356 Regional Coach ??? 859 658 Night Bus ??? 452 22 TeleBus??? 100 8 Interstate ??? 11 11 SkyBus ??? 5 2 For completeness, here's the summary from OSM using the tags railway=station, railway=tram_stop and highway=bus_stop inside the area ISO3166-2=AU-VIC. Transport Medium ??? No. stops No. routes ? Train??? 442 38 Tram ??? 157091 Bus ??? 4793716 On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 6:15 PM Andrew Harvey mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 23:29, Aaron Fang Shenhao mailto:aaronshenhao2...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi everyone, This is my first time using the mailing list. Welcome! I???ve noticed that PTV???s (Public Transport Victoria) datasets (https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/footer/data-and-reporting/datasets/) all fall under Creative Commons International 4.0, which requires explicit permission to be used according to OSM???s blog. I???ve looked at the wiki and can???t find any of these specific datasets in the list approved for use. Graeme pointed to the catalogue on the wiki of waiver status. I missed PTV when doing the initial round, so feel free to add this to the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue. Has anyone asked for permission to use these datasets before? I downloaded the GTFS dataset for a programming project, and it seems amazing: we could add all the stops and connect all the routes for all modes of transport in VIC just from this dataset? I haven't approached PTV about this, and since it's not listed on the wiki, I'd say go ahead and put together the waiver letter and send it off. The metadata records have a contact email you can use. If you do send off a waiver request please update the status and date you sent it to the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue, this really helps the rest of the community see what's going on. There'd still be a fair bit of manual work involved in an import to avoid duplicates and to integrate with what's already in OSM, but with a solid plan and engaging with this mailing list and local mappers with the plan and execution, an import could be a good thing to do. On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: I see there is reference??to https://www2.delwp.vic.gov.au/maps/spatial-data/victorian-spatial-data#Vicmap_Transport-11??being OK but that doesn't appear to be the same thing? Unfortunately not, VicMap Transport only has airports, roads and railway lines. The PTV data has bus stops and a few other datasets. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Brisbane City Council Parks Assets Data Review
Recently I sent an emailing to the Brisbane City Council regarding the age of the current Parks Asset data ( https://www.data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/park-facilities-and-assets ). I got the following response: Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We have been reviewing this dataset and working on a more valuable and sustainable way of publishing and updating. Given the size and variety of the assets it contains we are considering splitting it into multiple smaller discrete data sets. We would be very interested in your opinion as a consumer of Open Data. How would you recommend the set should be published to make the data more valuable? I thought I would forward this on to the community to see if anyone had any thoughts. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Proposed Brisbane City Council Datasets Import
Hi all, I am just wanting some feedback on correlating data from the following datasets: https://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/historic-cemeteries https://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/cemeteries https://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/swimming-pools https://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/ferry-terminals https://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/libraries-information-location https://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/community-halls https://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/tracks-and-trails https://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/bicycle-racks https://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/data/dataset/public-art We have explicit permission for BCC data https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.brisbane.qld.gov.au_explicit_permission Reuben ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] CC 4.0 was Re: Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)
Perhaps someone should make a submission to the Productivity Commission inquiry if it is the former: Forwarded Message Subject: [talk-au] The Australian Productivity Commission public inquiry on Data Availability and Use. Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:35:35 +1000 To: OSM Australian Talk List <Talk-au@openstreetmap.org> for info… The public inquiry will investigate ways to improve the availability and use of public and private sector data. The Australian Productivity Commission has released an issues paper and is asking for feedback. Initial submissions are due by Friday 29 July 2016. http://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/current/data-access Reuben On 16/07/16 13:38, Paul Norman wrote: On 7/12/2016 1:50 AM, Simon Poole wrote: - the additional requirement to adhere to the AUS privacy regulations was not addressed in the response, which in itself would be a killer. It depends if it's part of the license or a reminder that in Australia there are other laws that may effect what you can do with the data. If it's the former, the data is not available under CC BY 4.0 or an open license and they're falsely advertising that the data is available under an open license. If it's a reminder then it doesn't add any new requirements. If they want it to be a reminder, I'd suggest wording like Users are reminded that the Australian Privacy Principles under the Privacy Act 1988 (Cth) may impose additional restrictions on how they use the data. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)
On 10/07/16 14:06, cleary wrote: Feedback from the legal-talk list is that the reply from the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet is not sufficient and therefore we cannot use PSMA datasets in OSM. As far as I can ascertain, the lines on the Contributors page of the wiki, referring to PSMA boundaries, were added by a user named Reubot a little over three months ago. However a search for this user returned a result that there was no user of this name - I'm not sure how that works and someone else may understand how this could be so. This user also added Brisbane City Council as a source in the Contributors page so someone may wish to check if that data is actually permitted in OSM either. I'm not sure how much data was actually added to OSM from PSMA by this user or anyone else. Sorry about that, I was under the impression that it was covered by the data.gov.au permission. I only added Brisbane and Redlands and am now in the process of undoing. I have sent an email to QLD Department of Natural Resources and Mines to asking for explicit permission to use their (boundary) datasets instead. The Brisbane City Council data should be good as I got explicit permission: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.brisbane.qld.gov.au_explicit_permission Reuben ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Translink Bus Stops - South East Queensland
We already have explicit permission for Translink data https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution#Queensland_Government_data_.28Department_of_Transport_and_Main_Roads_-_TMR.29 Reuben On 13/01/16 00:16, FlashKiwi wrote: Hi Would it be possible to import the bus stops from the Translink GTFS file - http://translink.com.au/about-translink/open-data. I can prepare it technically but I cant see exactly how the data is licenced (http://translink.com.au/about-translink/open-data/terms-and-conditions) but is seems to be some sort of CC BY. Happy to follow up directly with Translink if need be? Cheers G. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
