Re: [talk-au] How to properly add address tags when multiple buildings share a housenumber?

2022-01-17 Thread Peter leGras
Hi Peter,
If you are tagging unit addresses in Orange NSW, I see a lot (but not all)
of strata complexes actually have the address with unit number in the NSW
spatial services addressing theme, despite not being displayed in the DCS
NSW Base Map layer.
This is a useful data source where there is restricted access, especially
in strata.
We have a waiver to use spatial services data such as this.
https://portal.spatial.nsw.gov.au/portal/home/webmap/viewer.html?useExisting=1=d3cf7c7edef14ca18248c6dc5fcaff96
Hope you find it useful.
I am mapping in the Blue Mountains and have done a bit of work in Orange. A
few nearby mappers are active in the OSM World discord server that was
mentioned recently in the talk-au list if you'd like to join us for casual
discussion.
Cheers
other Peter (2hu4u)

On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 23:20, Peter leGras  wrote:

> Hi Peter,
> The tag addr:housenumber does not render on non-building areas, but it is
> still useful to include on the complex lot bounds to assist geocoding. You
> can read more about this at
> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1746
> Note that adding a node tagged with addr:housenumber at the centre of the
> complex will render on osm.org.
> If there are multiple dwellings on the complex with the same housenumber,
> you could add the addr:housenumber to every dwelling in the lot and
> consider adding addr:unit or addr:flats to each as necessary.
> Cheers
> 2hu4u
>
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Re: [talk-au] How to properly add address tags when multiple buildings share a housenumber?

2022-01-17 Thread Peter Hardy
Hey Peter.

On Sun, 16 Jan 2022, at 11:20 PM, Peter leGras wrote:
> The tag addr:housenumber does not render on non-building areas, but it is 
> still useful to include on the complex lot bounds to assist geocoding. You 
> can read more about this at 
> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1746
> Note that adding a node tagged with addr:housenumber at the centre of the 
> complex will render on osm.org.

Good to know! Thank you.

Looking at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr more carefully, it does 
say that adding an address to a node within the site outline is fine, thanks 
for the pointer. I'm a little wary of tagging the same housenumber on the site 
way and a node, as josm throws a validation warning (and a lot of my edits have 
been around removing validation problems ;) ). But I think I can see how this 
might be a valid use.

> If there are multiple dwellings on the complex with the same housenumber, you 
> could add the addr:housenumber to every dwelling in the lot and consider 
> adding addr:unit or addr:flats to each as necessary.

Oh, `addr:unit` looks like it could be a good option. Unfortunately, for a lot 
of these I don't have ready access to the unit numbers - at the end of the day 
they're on private property so I'd be inferring the majority based on what I 
can see from the footpath - so was planning on just mapping the street address 
for the lot.

Thanks,
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Re: [talk-au] How to properly add address tags when multiple buildings share a housenumber?

2022-01-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 20:18, Peter Hardy 
wrote:

>
> Is this the right approach for doing this?
>

G'day Peter & welcome!

Certainly the way I do it, & it seems to work!

eg https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/422427220#map=19/-28.08664/153.42501

Although OSM doesn't render the number, Osmand, at least, will find the
address!

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [talk-au] How to properly add address tags when multiple buildings share a housenumber?

2022-01-16 Thread Peter leGras
Hi Peter,
The tag addr:housenumber does not render on non-building areas, but it is
still useful to include on the complex lot bounds to assist geocoding. You
can read more about this at
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1746
Note that adding a node tagged with addr:housenumber at the centre of the
complex will render on osm.org.
If there are multiple dwellings on the complex with the same housenumber,
you could add the addr:housenumber to every dwelling in the lot and
consider adding addr:unit or addr:flats to each as necessary.
Cheers
2hu4u
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[talk-au] How to properly add address tags when multiple buildings share a housenumber?

2022-01-16 Thread Peter Hardy
Hey folks.
I'm just getting started contributing to OpenStreetMap, adding address 
information for my local area. I've just started working in an area with heavy 
residential subdivision; blocks being split with several freestanding 
dwellings. There's a fairly pathological example at 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-33.28505/149.08483 , but there's a lot 
of smaller subdivisions around it.

The wiki at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses#Multiple_buildings_for_one_housenumber
 suggests adding a perimeter and addr tags to it. And a little further digging 
around I found 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dresidential#Apartment_Complexes
 , which suggests `landuse=residential` is appropriate for this sort of use. So 
I created an area around the property boundary based on the NSW DCS Base Map, 
added `landuse=residential`, then appropriate `addr:housenumber` and 
`addr:street` tags.

JOSM renders this how I'd expect, with an outline around the area and the 
housenumber displayed in the middle of the area. But the map tiles I see on 
opnstreeetmap.org only show the outline of the area, and do not display a 
housenumber.

Is this the right approach for doing this? Am I just missing something stupid 
to get this to work, or should I drop this plan and just stick to numbering the 
building closest to the street?

Thanks for any advice,
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