Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-10-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:33 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:

 It shouldn't be too hard to hack up a quick db that can do a layer
 over the top, I think people were suggesting to put this info directly
 into OSM but that may over kill a simpler DB can do the same thing in
 the same way as the crime db does.

FWIW, this via lifehacker:
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2009/10/magpie-attack-hotspots-map-helps-you-avoid-those-evil-birds/

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Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-09-14 Thread Neil Penman

I got whacked on the back of the head while mapping at the weekend.  I was just 
writing down the name of a park in Glenroy when it hit me.  At first I thought 
it was one of the locals so it was a bit of a relief to see the magpie fly off. 
Unfortunately i wasn't on my bike so no helmet, lots of blood.  

I think they are intelligent birds which is why some are real nasty and some 
never attack.  The ones that do seem to do it for sport and its the same ones 
year after year.

The following website is a much cooler way of representing assaults, avian or 
otherwise 
http://sanfrancisco.crimespotting.org/#lon=-122.438hours=0-23zoom=13dtend=2009-08-25T13:34:36-07:00lat=37.760dtstart=2009-08-14T12:59:49-07:00types=AA,Mu,Ro,SA,DP,Na,Al,Pr,Th,VT,Va,Bu,Ar
 

You can see attacks by time of day, time of year.

regards

Neil






  
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Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-09-14 Thread John Smith
2009/9/14 Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com

 I got whacked on the back of the head while mapping at the weekend.  I was 
 just writing down the name of a park in Glenroy when it hit me.  At first I 
 thought it was one of the locals so it was a bit of a relief to see the 
 magpie fly off. Unfortunately i wasn't on my bike so no helmet, lots of blood.

Ow...

 I think they are intelligent birds which is why some are real nasty and some 
 never attack.  The ones that do seem to do it for sport and its the same ones 
 year after year.

And you link to a crime site :)

 The following website is a much cooler way of representing assaults, avian or 
 otherwise 
 http://sanfrancisco.crimespotting.org/#lon=-122.438hours=0-23zoom=13dtend=2009-08-25T13:34:36-07:00lat=37.760dtstart=2009-08-14T12:59:49-07:00types=AA,Mu,Ro,SA,DP,Na,Al,Pr,Th,VT,Va,Bu,Ar

 You can see attacks by time of day, time of year.

It shouldn't be too hard to hack up a quick db that can do a layer
over the top, I think people were suggesting to put this info directly
into OSM but that may over kill a simpler DB can do the same thing in
the same way as the crime db does.

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Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-09-11 Thread Liz
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Roy Wallace wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ashley Kyd a...@kyd.com.au wrote:
  (Also, I'm not going to stick around and work out where the attack
  perimeter is. You can do that. They're nasty creatures. ;)

 Don't forget it should be verifiable, too :)

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magpies are very intelligent creatures
they can tell the time  (they know when the postie is coming)
and they can tell a young male human from less aggressive female humans

so the local magpies ignore some people and fearlessly attack others


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Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-09-11 Thread Andrew Laughton
Maybe because they are not nesting at the moment.

2009/9/11 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com

 2009/9/11 Liz ed...@billiau.net:

  magpies are very intelligent creatures
  they can tell the time  (they know when the postie is coming)
  and they can tell a young male human from less aggressive female humans
 
  so the local magpies ignore some people and fearlessly attack others

 The magpies close to here don't swoop anyone, that has me stumped...

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Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-09-11 Thread Hugh Barnes
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:44:55 +1000
Ashley Kyd a...@kyd.com.au wrote:

 As far as I know, it's a problem in different locations from year to
 year though. That would mean it needs cleaning up each year after the
 magpie season's over.
 

Assuming they nest reasonably consistently in the same place year after
year (maybe not), there would be no harm in keeping it there as a
hazard=magpie_nesting_area or such. (I just made that up.)

 It'd be good if we could set some kind of node expiry tag to flag
 nodes and ways for deletion in 3 months time (or however long the
 problem is likely to last,) but otherwise it sounds like a bit too
 much hassle.
 

I'd like that, too. It's also been discussed regarding temporary
features like events and road closures and seasonal features. T-shirt.

Anyway, it might be one of those things like bus timetables that are
best kept separate to OSM.

 
 (Also, I'm not going to stick around and work out where the attack
 perimeter is. You can do that. They're nasty creatures. ;)
 

Let's see who the dedicated mappers are. :D

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Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-09-11 Thread John Smith
2009/9/11 Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com:
 Maybe because they are not nesting at the moment.

No, they're nesting and even when the young chicks are just out of the
nest they don't either.

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Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-09-11 Thread John Smith
2009/9/11 Hugh Barnes list@hughbris.com:

 Let's see who the dedicated mappers are. :D

Are we really out of things to map? :)

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Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-09-11 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Hugh Barnes list@hughbris.com wrote:

 I'd like that, too. It's also been discussed regarding temporary
 features like events and road closures and seasonal features. T-shirt.

I'm guessing you've seen the following proposal (early stages)?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/4th_Dimension

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[talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-09-10 Thread Hugh Barnes
Just read in my local rag about a magpie hotspot map:

http://city-south-news.whereilive.com.au/news/story/magpie-hotspots/

This occurred to me just recently after being on the receiving end of
an air raid. Should probably be areas rather than nodes. It would be a
useful feature on the cycle map and any walking maps created from OSM
data.

Food for thought?

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Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-09-10 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ashley Kyd a...@kyd.com.au wrote:

 (Also, I'm not going to stick around and work out where the attack
 perimeter is. You can do that. They're nasty creatures. ;)

Don't forget it should be verifiable, too :)

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