Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-08 Thread b . schulz . 10
Awesome job on this one: 
http://barstool.ash.ms/osm/posters/2009-08-09/openstreetmap-osm-australia-austsralia.png
 :doublethumsup:

- Original Message -
From: Ashley Kyd 
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009 1:19 pm
Subject: Re: [talk-au] posters/banners
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org

> Actually, a follow-up to that, the logo is indeed trade marked, 
> so it'll
> have to remain as is, and possibly be okayed for use first. I 
> don't know
> how trade mark law works, so someone else might have to work 
> that out.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ash.
> 
> On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 08:39 +1000, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote:
> > What I'll probably do is just upload all versions of the banner
> > somewhere and let whoever is paying for the print choose and 
> tweak to
> > their liking. That way all we need to agree upon is the 
> OpenStreetMap> name and the magnifying glass icon.
> > 
> > In the end it's literally a 5min job to make different 
> versions. For
> > example, I personally believe that the Japanese banner was 
> made for an
> > international audience, why else would it have "Japan" not only
> > written on it but in Roman characters.
> > 
> > So, if we want a banner to be shown in a SoTM presentation 
> then having
> > "Australia" on it would be appropriate. Otherwise it may be 
> best to
> > have "Gathering" or "Mapping Party" or "Meeting" instead.
> > 
> > With regard to horizontal centering: I aligned the text on the right
> > hand edge but intentionally left the bottom line a bit to the 
> left on
> > the LHS so as to balance the protrusion of the magnifying glass.
> > 
> > I'll whip up a few more versions tonight. Going on an endurance
> > training ride today :).
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Roy Wallace 
> > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009 7:55 am
> > Subject: Re: [talk-au] posters/banners
> > To: b.schulz...@scu.edu.au
> > Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> > 
> > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM,  wrote:
> > > > Yeah, the 2 logos kind of each represent an extreme: one 
> is a 
> > > bit plain and
> > > > the other is too distracting.
> > > >
> > > > I might try putting a map rendered as the background, but 
> have 
> > > it more as a
> > > > watermark than an attraction. It's probably time to read 
> some 
> > > Inkscape> tutorials...
> > > >
> > > > Any other ideas are most welcome.
> > > 
> > > Version 2 gets my vote. Plain is infinitely better than crowded
> > IMHO.
> > > Just make sure the two lines of text are horizontally 
> centred with
> > > respect to each other. I wouldn't bother with putting a map 
> in the
> > > background.
> > > 
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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread John Smith

--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Elizabeth Dodd  wrote:

> someone keeps on telling me not to tag for the renderer

The other reason they were elevated is due a lot of them being of regional 
importance.


  

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote:
> I probably elevated them because the regular mapnik rendering doesn't,
> although this is more to do with eurocentric idea that a town isn't a town
> unless it has 100,000 people in it. If everything is marked back down
> nothing will stand out.
>
> While this is technically incorrectly unless you add another tag for
> rendering things will be much harder to orientate yourself on the map with.
>
>
>  
someone keeps on telling me not to tag for the renderer


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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread John Smith

--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Elizabeth Dodd  wrote:
> There are also in NW NSW a number of small places with
> undue prominence eg 
> "Burren Junction", "Quambone" and "Baradine".
> 
> I intend (when I have done my accounts), to downgrade every
> town which is not 
> a city, back to town. 
> Speak up now, if you don't agree. :-)

I probably elevated them because the regular mapnik rendering doesn't, although 
this is more to do with eurocentric idea that a town isn't a town unless it has 
100,000 people in it. If everything is marked back down nothing will stand out.

While this is technically incorrectly unless you add another tag for rendering 
things will be much harder to orientate yourself on the map with.


  

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote:
> --- On Sat, 8/8/09, Liz  wrote:
> > The basic layout is OK
>
> I'm trying to make it easier for people to find Aussie specific stuff.
>
> > I'd try to stop the logo overlapping with the grey bar
>
> All I did was replace the logo, the swiss site already did that.
>
> > the rendering gives coral sea islands and coral sea islands
> > territory and ACT
> > too much prominence
>
> That's a rendering thing, I need to tweak the shields layout some more too,
> at some zoom levels they're fine, at other zoom levels they bunch up too
> much. I actually plan to ditch the references for coral sea islands out of
> the database, as soon as I figure out how, then they won't show.
>
> > and Norfolk Island doesn't appear at all (which is good
> > rendering, but
> > 'unfair')
>
> I don't have any external territory data loaded in the database, but can if
> people think it would be useful.

There are also in NW NSW a number of small places with undue prominence eg 
"Burren Junction", "Quambone" and "Baradine".

I intend (when I have done my accounts), to downgrade every town which is not 
a city, back to town. 
Speak up now, if you don't agree. :-)

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread John Smith

--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Liz  wrote:

> The basic layout is OK

I'm trying to make it easier for people to find Aussie specific stuff.

> I'd try to stop the logo overlapping with the grey bar 

All I did was replace the logo, the swiss site already did that.

> the rendering gives coral sea islands and coral sea islands
> territory and ACT 
> too much prominence

That's a rendering thing, I need to tweak the shields layout some more too, at 
some zoom levels they're fine, at other zoom levels they bunch up too much. I 
actually plan to ditch the references for coral sea islands out of the 
database, as soon as I figure out how, then they won't show.

> and Norfolk Island doesn't appear at all (which is good
> rendering, but 
> 'unfair')

I don't have any external territory data loaded in the database, but can if 
people think it would be useful.


  

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread Liz
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote:
> Among other things I started making a site layout based on the Swiss site,
> rather than just displaying a map.
>
> http://maps.bigtincan.com/index-new.php


The basic layout is OK
I'd try to stop the logo overlapping with the grey bar 
the rendering gives coral sea islands and coral sea islands territory and ACT 
too much prominence
and Norfolk Island doesn't appear at all (which is good rendering, but 
'unfair')


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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread John Smith

Actually I doubt it would matter if you modified it or not, the Japanese sign 
was slightly modified, as is the logo on the swiss site:

http://www.openstreetmap.ch/

If you look at the handle on the magnifying glass it's been made look like a 
swiss army knife.

And I do like the image with the Australia in the background.

http://barstool.ash.ms/osm/posters/2009-08-09/openstreetmap-osm-australia-austsralia.png

Do you have a high-res copy of this, either SVG or PNG?

Among other things I started making a site layout based on the Swiss site, 
rather than just displaying a map.

http://maps.bigtincan.com/index-new.php


  

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread John Smith



--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Ashley Kyd  wrote:

> Actually, a follow-up to that, the
> logo is indeed trade marked, so it'll
> have to remain as is, and possibly be okayed for use first.
> I don't know
> how trade mark law works, so someone else might have to
> work that out.

>From the discussion on the main talk list it's an allowed use of OSMF's 
>trademark, if we were doing it for commercial reasons then that would probably 
>be disallowed. I have no idea about modifications of it, you would probably be 
>best seeking permission although as long as it's not detrimental or what not 
>it should be ok imho, but if in doubt email the main talk list with the 
>request.


  

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread Ashley Kyd
Actually, a follow-up to that, the logo is indeed trade marked, so it'll
have to remain as is, and possibly be okayed for use first. I don't know
how trade mark law works, so someone else might have to work that out.

Cheers,
Ash.

On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 08:39 +1000, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote:
> What I'll probably do is just upload all versions of the banner
> somewhere and let whoever is paying for the print choose and tweak to
> their liking. That way all we need to agree upon is the OpenStreetMap
> name and the magnifying glass icon.
> 
> In the end it's literally a 5min job to make different versions. For
> example, I personally believe that the Japanese banner was made for an
> international audience, why else would it have "Japan" not only
> written on it but in Roman characters.
> 
> So, if we want a banner to be shown in a SoTM presentation then having
> "Australia" on it would be appropriate. Otherwise it may be best to
> have "Gathering" or "Mapping Party" or "Meeting" instead.
> 
> With regard to horizontal centering: I aligned the text on the right
> hand edge but intentionally left the bottom line a bit to the left on
> the LHS so as to balance the protrusion of the magnifying glass.
> 
> I'll whip up a few more versions tonight. Going on an endurance
> training ride today :).
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Roy Wallace 
> Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009 7:55 am
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] posters/banners
> To: b.schulz...@scu.edu.au
> Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM,  wrote:
> > > Yeah, the 2 logos kind of each represent an extreme: one is a 
> > bit plain and
> > > the other is too distracting.
> > >
> > > I might try putting a map rendered as the background, but have 
> > it more as a
> > > watermark than an attraction. It's probably time to read some 
> > Inkscape> tutorials...
> > >
> > > Any other ideas are most welcome.
> > 
> > Version 2 gets my vote. Plain is infinitely better than crowded
> IMHO.
> > Just make sure the two lines of text are horizontally centred with
> > respect to each other. I wouldn't bother with putting a map in the
> > background.
> > 
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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread Ashley Kyd
Thought I'd jump in late with some more input.

I aligned the screen cap John posted, and created these posters based on
the Japanese one. I personally like the “Australia” included, it makes
it feel more like an Australian effort, rather than the mainly European
effort that seems to take a lot of the focus. :)

I also modified the OSM logo in a few, I'm not sure what kind of trade
mark/tarms of use there are associated with it though, so it may not be
appropriate for use. Just playing with some ideas.

Anyway, the SVG sources are available too if anyone wants to have a go.

http://barstool.ash.ms/osm/posters/2009-08-09/gallery ← Gallery
http://barstool.ash.ms/osm/posters/2009-08-09/ ← Directory listing

Cheers,
Ash.

On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 08:39 +1000, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote:
> What I'll probably do is just upload all versions of the banner
> somewhere and let whoever is paying for the print choose and tweak to
> their liking. That way all we need to agree upon is the OpenStreetMap
> name and the magnifying glass icon.
> 
> In the end it's literally a 5min job to make different versions. For
> example, I personally believe that the Japanese banner was made for an
> international audience, why else would it have "Japan" not only
> written on it but in Roman characters.
> 
> So, if we want a banner to be shown in a SoTM presentation then having
> "Australia" on it would be appropriate. Otherwise it may be best to
> have "Gathering" or "Mapping Party" or "Meeting" instead.
> 
> With regard to horizontal centering: I aligned the text on the right
> hand edge but intentionally left the bottom line a bit to the left on
> the LHS so as to balance the protrusion of the magnifying glass.
> 
> I'll whip up a few more versions tonight. Going on an endurance
> training ride today :).
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Roy Wallace 
> Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009 7:55 am
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] posters/banners
> To: b.schulz...@scu.edu.au
> Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM,  wrote:
> > > Yeah, the 2 logos kind of each represent an extreme: one is a 
> > bit plain and
> > > the other is too distracting.
> > >
> > > I might try putting a map rendered as the background, but have 
> > it more as a
> > > watermark than an attraction. It's probably time to read some 
> > Inkscape> tutorials...
> > >
> > > Any other ideas are most welcome.
> > 
> > Version 2 gets my vote. Plain is infinitely better than crowded
> IMHO.
> > Just make sure the two lines of text are horizontally centred with
> > respect to each other. I wouldn't bother with putting a map in the
> > background.
> > 
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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread b . schulz . 10
What I'll probably do is just upload all versions of the banner somewhere and 
let whoever is paying for the print choose and tweak to their liking. That way 
all we need to agree upon is the OpenStreetMap name and the magnifying glass 
icon.

In the end it's literally a 5min job to make different versions. For example, I 
personally believe that the Japanese banner was made for an international 
audience, why else would it have "Japan" not only written on it but in Roman 
characters.

So, if we want a banner to be shown in a SoTM presentation then having 
"Australia" on it would be appropriate. Otherwise it may be best to have 
"Gathering" or "Mapping Party" or "Meeting" instead.

With regard to horizontal centering: I aligned the text on the right hand edge 
but intentionally left the bottom line a bit to the left on the LHS so as to 
balance the protrusion of the magnifying glass.

I'll whip up a few more versions tonight. Going on an endurance training ride 
today :).

- Original Message -
From: Roy Wallace 
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009 7:55 am
Subject: Re: [talk-au] posters/banners
To: b.schulz...@scu.edu.au
Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org

> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM,  wrote:
> > Yeah, the 2 logos kind of each represent an extreme: one is a 
> bit plain and
> > the other is too distracting.
> >
> > I might try putting a map rendered as the background, but have 
> it more as a
> > watermark than an attraction. It's probably time to read some 
> Inkscape> tutorials...
> >
> > Any other ideas are most welcome.
> 
> Version 2 gets my vote. Plain is infinitely better than crowded IMHO.
> Just make sure the two lines of text are horizontally centred with
> respect to each other. I wouldn't bother with putting a map in the
> background.
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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM,  wrote:
> Yeah, the 2 logos kind of each represent an extreme: one is a bit plain and
> the other is too distracting.
>
> I might try putting a map rendered as the background, but have it more as a
> watermark than an attraction. It's probably time to read some Inkscape
> tutorials...
>
> Any other ideas are most welcome.

Version 2 gets my vote. Plain is infinitely better than crowded IMHO.
Just make sure the two lines of text are horizontally centred with
respect to each other. I wouldn't bother with putting a map in the
background.

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread John Smith

I took a screen capture of it from the vid:

http://maps.bigtincan.com/data/osm-japan-capture.png


  

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread John Smith



--- On Fri, 7/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au  wrote:

> The banner shown on the slide at 21s?
> The slide called Tsuruga-jo Castle? I could whip up that
> with "Australia" instead of Japan, sure.

I didn't actually watch the online video, I assumed it was the same as the m4v 
file I downloaded, I just posted that link to save you needing to download the 
whole thing.

However that was what I was thinking of.

This vid shows a much clearer shot of it...

http://www.stateofthemap.org/podcasts/sunday/state_room/1400_LT_06_Japan.m4v


  

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread John Smith



--- On Fri, 7/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au  wrote:

> The banner shown on the slide at 21s?
> The slide called Tsuruga-jo Castle? I could whip up that
> with "Australia" instead of Japan, sure.

I didn't actually watch the online video, I assumed it was the same as the m4v 
file I downloaded, I just posted that link to save you needing to download the 
whole thing.

However that was what I was thinking of.

This vid shows a much clearer shot of it...

http://www.stateofthemap.org/podcasts/sunday/state_room/1400_LT_06_Japan.m4v


  

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread b . schulz . 10
The banner shown on the slide at 21s? The slide called Tsuruga-jo Castle? I 
could whip up that with "Australia" instead of Japan, sure.

- Original Message -
From: John Smith 
Date: Friday, August 7, 2009 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: [talk-au] posters/banners
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au

> 
> --- On Fri, 7/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Any other ideas are most welcome.
> 
> Check out this video:
> 
> http://www.vimeo.com/5594110
> 
> Very first shot shows the kind of thing I'm aiming at here.
> 
> 
>   
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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread John Smith

--- On Fri, 7/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au  wrote:

> Any other ideas are most welcome.

Check out this video:

http://www.vimeo.com/5594110

Very first shot shows the kind of thing I'm aiming at here.


  

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread b . schulz . 10
Yeah, the 2 logos kind of each represent an extreme: one is a bit plain and the 
other is too distracting.

I might try putting a map rendered as the background, but have it more as a 
watermark than an attraction. It's probably time to read some Inkscape 
tutorials...

Any other ideas are most welcome.

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From: John Smith 
Date: Friday, August 7, 2009 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: [talk-au] posters/banners
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org

> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 7/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Noted, version 2:
> > 
> > http://ocau.com/pix/yg3b2
> 
> I actually like the other OSM logo, it gives the eye something 
> to look at, just my humble opinion.
> 
> 
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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread John Smith



--- On Fri, 7/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au  wrote:

> Noted, version 2:
> 
> http://ocau.com/pix/yg3b2

I actually like the other OSM logo, it gives the eye something to look at, just 
my humble opinion.


  

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread b . schulz . 10
Noted, version 2:

http://ocau.com/pix/yg3b2

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From: 80n <80n...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, August 7, 2009 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: [talk-au] posters/banners
To: b.schulz...@scu.edu.au
Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org, Matt Amos 

> That looks good, but...
> 
> penStreetMap
> 
> It's not obvious to the layman that the magnifying glass is 
> supposed to be
> an O.  And because pen is a common word many people will 
> misread this as
> penStreetMap which makes about as much sense as OpenStreetMap if 
> you'venever heard of either.
> 
> I'd strongly discourage using the magnifying glass as an O, it 
> can fail too
> easily.
> 
> Matt Amos is the original designer of the logo, perhaps he has a 
> view on
> this.  I'm copying him.
> 
> Etienne
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM,  wrote:
> 
> > I had a play around wit Inkscape and 5mins later had come up 
> with this:
> >
> > http://www.overclockers.com.au/pix/st7vm
> >
> > The link is to a transparent png so it doesn't look right with 
> the dark
> > blue background of the hosting service but such is life.
> >
> > I can't post the svg to the list without "moderator approval" 
> as it makes
> > the message body exceed 40kb. If anybody wants it just ask and 
> I'll shoot it
> > through to you personally.
> >
> > Feedback is welcomed. Having the two "Map" words on the right 
> hand side
> > kinda bugs me. Does OSM have any other slogans we could put on it?
> >
> > -Brent
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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread 80n
That looks good, but...

penStreetMap

It's not obvious to the layman that the magnifying glass is supposed to be
an O.  And because pen is a common word many people will misread this as
penStreetMap which makes about as much sense as OpenStreetMap if you've
never heard of either.

I'd strongly discourage using the magnifying glass as an O, it can fail too
easily.

Matt Amos is the original designer of the logo, perhaps he has a view on
this.  I'm copying him.

Etienne


On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM,  wrote:

> I had a play around wit Inkscape and 5mins later had come up with this:
>
> http://www.overclockers.com.au/pix/st7vm
>
> The link is to a transparent png so it doesn't look right with the dark
> blue background of the hosting service but such is life.
>
> I can't post the svg to the list without "moderator approval" as it makes
> the message body exceed 40kb. If anybody wants it just ask and I'll shoot it
> through to you personally.
>
> Feedback is welcomed. Having the two "Map" words on the right hand side
> kinda bugs me. Does OSM have any other slogans we could put on it?
>
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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-07 Thread b . schulz . 10
I had a play around wit Inkscape and 5mins later had come up with this:

http://www.overclockers.com.au/pix/st7vm

The link is to a transparent png so it doesn't look right with the dark blue 
background of the hosting service but such is life.

I can't post the svg to the list without "moderator approval" as it makes the 
message body exceed 40kb. If anybody wants it just ask and I'll shoot it 
through to you personally.

Feedback is welcomed. Having
the two "Map" words on the right hand side kinda bugs me. Does OSM have
any other slogans we could put on it?

-Brent
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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-05 Thread John Smith

--- On Thu, 6/8/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au  wrote:

> Well, what information do you want it
> to get across?

Don't want look like a dork waiting for everyone to turn up :)

> Do we want "OSM Australia" to
> become some form of semi-official name for OSM
> activities/groups in Australia?

Dunno, I didn't think of putting mapping party on it, but I didn't want to be 
place specific which is why I ended up putting Australia on it.

> I certainly think that re-using other OSM logos etc is an
> excellent idea though as it maintains brand consistency in
> the online->real world transition.

Plus it saves time and effort coming up with something else.

> It's probably worth thinking about how this will be
> seen, too. For instance say you're driving through a
> town you've never been to while looking for the mapping
> party meeting place. If you see that poster the text in
> "penstreetmap" gets lost very easily in front of
> the quasi-cammo pattern background.

I'm planning a one off vinyl banner about 50cm wide in full colour, everyone 
should have a fair idea where to be already, this isn't for a general flier run 
that gets posted out in letter boxes in b&w.

> Lastly, whatever gets written on it please try to maintain
> font consistency :). Serif fonts are great when you're
> reading bulk text but they aren't used nearly as often
> on banners as sans serif fonts.

Some people are colour blind, I'm font blind, I really don't see a lot of the 
subtleties that some people do in fonts, I was trying to find a font that 
looked similar to the "penstreetmap" text. Obviously it wasn't close enough :)


  

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Re: [talk-au] posters/banners

2009-08-05 Thread b . schulz . 10
Well, what information do you want it to get across? Do we want "OSM Australia" 
to become some form of semi-official name for OSM activities/groups in 
Australia? Or do we just want a sign which says "There's an OpenStreetMap 
mapping party meeting here, this is what you look for to find us" in which case 
the "Australia" is redundant as we're  in Australia already.

I certainly think that re-using other OSM logos etc is an excellent idea though 
as it maintains brand consistency in the online->real world transition.

It's probably worth thinking about how this will be seen, too. For instance say 
you're driving through a town you've never been to while looking for the 
mapping party meeting place. If you see that poster the text in "penstreetmap" 
gets lost very easily in front of the quasi-cammo pattern background.

It may work better if the same concept is used with this symbol for the "O": 
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/images/osm_withtext.svg and then 
"penStreetMap" next to it, as that way the text is much clearer to read and the 
form of the magnifying glass is easier to spot while trying to drive.

Lastly, whatever gets written on it please try to maintain font consistency :). 
Serif fonts are great when you're reading bulk text but they aren't used nearly 
as often on banners as sans serif fonts.

I'll have a go at sketching something up tomorrow night, after my current 
assignment is handed in.

- Original Message -
From: John Smith 
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009 3:20 pm
Subject: Re: posters/banners
To: b.schulz...@scu.edu.au, Ash Kyd 

> 
> I was digging about and I found this SVG image...
> 
> http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/images/osm_button.svg
> 
> I whacked the word "Australia" under it and made a very big png:
> 
> http://maps.bigtincan.com/data/osm_australia_banner.png
> 
> 
>   
>
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