[Talk-bd] Going back to the 'desh

2014-05-01 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi All,

I'll be in Bangladesh again sometime around late July or early August.
I dont know exactly when yet, no flights booked.
Are any of you interested in having an osm-bd meetup?


Larry
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Re: [Talk-bd] Talk-bd Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1

2013-08-20 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi Jeff,

It looks really fantastic... can't wait to see this done to the rest of the
city. =0)

Larry


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Jeff Haack  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I've completed the import of buildings
> in wards 67, 68, and 69.  You can see it at
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/23.7158/90.4053
>
> There are some areas where I've left some minor roads overlapping with
> buildings during the import, and I apologize for this.  Over the next two
> months we'll have teams of surveyors going over the area, correcting these
> mistakes, and mapping in greater detail.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Jeff Haack  wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> The data is of quite good quality.  I'll have to re-look at the
>> methodology they used, but it must have involved digitizing high-res
>> imagery and field surveys.  And it lines up pretty well with the Bing
>> imagery - I think this data is 4-5 years old if I remember correctly.  So
>> although it's a dense area I think it will be a good clean dataset to
>> import, and if there are any problems they should be corrected during the
>> field surveys.  And indeed BUET is going to be integrally involved in all
>> of this.
>>
>> Emilie,
>> It looks like there aren't more than a couple dozen buildings in this
>> first area, and I'm planning to manually conflate and import the data
>> anyway, however this might be useful later on if there are further imports.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Emilie Laffray > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Larry,
>>>
>>> I have written for the French import of landuse some SQL queries that
>>> can be adapted to check overlap with existing building and to choose which
>>> one to import or not. It means that you have to add an extra steps but it
>>> would help quite a bit that way not to have overlaps.
>>> I would be happy to explain how to do this.
>>>
>>> Cordially
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 August 2013 12:04, Larry O'Neill  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jorieke,
>>>>
>>>> Good to hear from you again!
>>>> The CEGIS data looks like it's quite detailed. Comparing some buildings
>>>> that I surveyed and put on the map
>>>>  to what the CEGIS has, they compare quite well.
>>>> There will be conflicts and overlap for sure, I'd imagine one of the
>>>> challenges will be buildings and road data overlapping.
>>>> I would agree that a less dense area might be easier to start with, but
>>>> it's up to Jeff if he's the one who'll be doing the legwork on it.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff, we haven't really done much about boundary data schemas yet. In
>>>> terms of borders, we did have some fun at some point with the enclaves and
>>>> exclaves on the northern border. The worlds only counter-counter-enclave is
>>>> there. =0) A proper schema for the various divisions and districts would be
>>>> a good idea. I think currently the only data we have for these boundaries
>>>> are the zilas in the Chittagong division.
>>>>
>>>> With regard to the RHD, I recall there was someone either on this list
>>>> or the facebook group that had a contact there. After a little digging in
>>>> facebook, it appears it was Rafid Wahid Yaad that was digging about with
>>>> that - it could be a good lead to follow.
>>>>
>>>> In terms of other stuff, I'm only getting back into osm related things
>>>> after about 7 months travelling.
>>>> I've noticed the Bing imagery for Bangladesh was significantly updated.
>>>> I had done loads of road tracing from it previously, and it looks like we
>>>> now have a significant amount more of the country covered since the last
>>>> update =0)
>>>> I'll be re-opening the irc channel, going back through all the emails
>>>> and facebook postings from the last while, and really looking forward to
>>>> doing more stuff with you guys again!
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Jorieke Vyncke <
>>>> jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed great to see these actions in 

Re: [Talk-bd] Talk-bd Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1

2013-08-12 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi Jorieke,

Good to hear from you again!
The CEGIS data looks like it's quite detailed. Comparing some buildings
that I surveyed and put on the map
 to what the CEGIS has, they compare quite well.
There will be conflicts and overlap for sure, I'd imagine one of the
challenges will be buildings and road data overlapping.
I would agree that a less dense area might be easier to start with, but
it's up to Jeff if he's the one who'll be doing the legwork on it.

Jeff, we haven't really done much about boundary data schemas yet. In terms
of borders, we did have some fun at some point with the enclaves and
exclaves on the northern border. The worlds only counter-counter-enclave is
there. =0) A proper schema for the various divisions and districts would be
a good idea. I think currently the only data we have for these boundaries
are the zilas in the Chittagong division.

With regard to the RHD, I recall there was someone either on this list or
the facebook group that had a contact there. After a little digging in
facebook, it appears it was Rafid Wahid Yaad that was digging about with
that - it could be a good lead to follow.

In terms of other stuff, I'm only getting back into osm related things
after about 7 months travelling.
I've noticed the Bing imagery for Bangladesh was significantly updated. I
had done loads of road tracing from it previously, and it looks like we now
have a significant amount more of the country covered since the last update
=0)
I'll be re-opening the irc channel, going back through all the emails and
facebook postings from the last while, and really looking forward to doing
more stuff with you guys again!

Larry





On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Jorieke Vyncke
wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> Indeed great to see these actions in Bangladesh! The country has big
> potentials in the mapping!
>
> About the import, I checked the wiki and everything seems really okay!
> I only have one big question about the data. I absolutely don't know the
> CEGIS, so I have no idea about the quality of their data.
> Only one thing I know is the area you propose to import is a really
> densely built area. If you would propose to import Gulshan of Dhanmundi, I
> would have said go on, but an import of this area it is quite difficult I
> think.
> So I think it is really important to link the import with surveys on the
> field! I also know the mappers of BUET (with sir Ferdous, Rifat and
> Shubrami) already did some surveys in Old Dhaka. I don't know which area
> exactly, but I would say take it in account when you are doing the import.
>
> About the permission, I can sent you a letter just to sign, we developed
> to got data in Cameroon and the Central African Republic last year. I don't
> know anything about how you are trying to get the permission, but in
> Cameroon and the Central African Republic we learned that the best strategy
> is often: just give them a prepared document so they just have to sign. It
> will go a lot faster.
>
> Good luck with the import, and I will check it too! :-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jorieke
>
>
>
> 2013/8/12 Jeff Haack 
>
>> There are so many data sets kicking around and yes if the roads and
>> highway department haven't been brought in already I'm sure they will be.
>>  This is still in a very nascent phase acquiring data permissions from
>> anybody can take a lot of legwork, so I'll keep this in mind as I get to
>> know the situation a bit better.
>>
>> I'm glad to see this road classification schema.  I wonder if there has
>> ever been a discussion of an admin level schema? (see
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Larry O'Neill wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> Aah, I'd almost forgotten that WB were involved. Exciting stuff.
>>>
>>> We had been talking about the data that the Roads and Highways
>>> Department have available on their site.
>>> The idea was to ask for permission to use the road reference information
>>> that's there.
>>> Most of the national roads have been traced from Bing imagery, but
>>> classification still needs to be figured out.
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Bangladesh#Roads
>>> If The World Bank were able to talk to the Ministry of Water Resources
>>> to get building info, they might be able and/or willing to help with this?
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Jeff Haack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Larry,
>>>>
>>>> To 

Re: [Talk-bd] Talk-bd Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1

2013-08-12 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi Jeff,

Aah, I'd almost forgotten that WB were involved. Exciting stuff.

We had been talking about the data that the Roads and Highways Department
have available on their site.
The idea was to ask for permission to use the road reference information
that's there.
Most of the national roads have been traced from Bing imagery, but
classification still needs to be figured out.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Bangladesh#Roads
If The World Bank were able to talk to the Ministry of Water Resources to
get building info, they might be able and/or willing to help with this?
Thoughts?

Thanks
Larry



On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Jeff Haack  wrote:

> Hi Larry,
>
> To be honest I'm not sure how CEGIS got involved - I'm not directly in
> touch.  The World Bank has been piecing together this project to begin
> mapping in these wards at the end of the month, and there are a few
> footprint data sets floating around.  We're still awaiting final written
> permission to import the data, but hope to have it soon.  I'll be coming to
> Dhaka the last couple weeks of August to help do OSM training and get this
> initiative off the ground, so I expect you'll be able to see the data
> filling into OSM over the next couple months and hopefully beyond.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Larry O'Neill wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Really great to hear about this, how did you make contact with the CEGIS
>> Jeff?
>> Will be following this closely on Friday, assuming we get the final word
>> to go ahead.
>> Eunus, OSM data can be used for whatever research you need it for, so
>> this will be available once its imported.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Mohammed Eunus Ali <
>> mohammed.eunus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>> I am really happy and delighted to see this great initiative. I am
>>> currently doing some research on query processing 3D maps. I think this
>>> data will be really helpful for my research (I assume data are open for all
>>> /researchers!).
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Eunus
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM, wrote:
>>>
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>>>> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 20:30:40 +0530
>>>> From: Jeff Haack 
>>>> To: talk-bd@openstreetmap.org
>>>> Subject: [Talk-bd] Old Dhaka Building Import
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>>>> Hello OpenStreetMap Bangladesh,
>>>>
>>>> I'm preparing a data import for the old city in Dhaka of buildings, in
>>>> support of the Open Cities Project<
>>>> http://opencitiesproject.com/cities/dhaka/>,
>>>> which will involve data collection of buildings using OpenStreetMap.
>>>>  The
>>>> import will be of both building structures and ward boundaries,
>>>> specifically within wards 67, 68, and 69 and possibly extending to wards
>>>> 63, 64, and 66.  You can see an outline of the import plan at
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dhaka_Building_Import.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to open a discussion up about this both to inform you and also
>>>> in
>>>> case their are any questions or concerns we can discuss them in advance.
>>>>  I'm hoping to import the data by the end of the week, before August
>>>> 16t

Re: [Talk-bd] Talk-bd Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1

2013-08-12 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi Guys,

Really great to hear about this, how did you make contact with the CEGIS
Jeff?
Will be following this closely on Friday, assuming we get the final word to
go ahead.
Eunus, OSM data can be used for whatever research you need it for, so this
will be available once its imported.

Larry


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Mohammed Eunus Ali <
mohammed.eunus@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> I am really happy and delighted to see this great initiative. I am
> currently doing some research on query processing 3D maps. I think this
> data will be really helpful for my research (I assume data are open for all
> /researchers!).
>
> Thanks
> Eunus
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM, wrote:
>
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>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 20:30:40 +0530
>> From: Jeff Haack 
>> To: talk-bd@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: [Talk-bd] Old Dhaka Building Import
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>>
>> Hello OpenStreetMap Bangladesh,
>>
>> I'm preparing a data import for the old city in Dhaka of buildings, in
>> support of the Open Cities Project<
>> http://opencitiesproject.com/cities/dhaka/>,
>> which will involve data collection of buildings using OpenStreetMap.  The
>> import will be of both building structures and ward boundaries,
>> specifically within wards 67, 68, and 69 and possibly extending to wards
>> 63, 64, and 66.  You can see an outline of the import plan at
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dhaka_Building_Import.
>>
>> I'd like to open a discussion up about this both to inform you and also in
>> case their are any questions or concerns we can discuss them in advance.
>>  I'm hoping to import the data by the end of the week, before August 16th.
>>  If you are interested please take a look at the plan I've written on the
>> wiki page and post any items for discussion here on the list.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jeff
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>> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 00:38:25 +0600
>> From: Syed Ishtiaque Ahmed 
>> To: Jeff Haack , "Md. Rashidujjaman Rifat"
>> 
>> Cc: talk-bd 
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-bd] Old Dhaka Building Import
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>> Great initiative, Jeff!
>>
>> Mapping old Dhaka is very important for many reasons. We are really
>> excited
>> to hear more about it as the project progresses.
>>
>> Ishtiaque
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jeff Haack  wrote:
>>
>> > Hello OpenStreetMap Bangladesh,
>> >
>> > I'm preparing a data import for the old city in Dhaka of buildings, in
>> > support of the Open Cities Project<
>> http://opencitiesproject.com/cities/dhaka/>,
>> > which will involve data collection of buildings using OpenStreetMap.
>>  The
>> > import will be of both building structures and ward boundaries,
>> > specifically within wards 67, 68, and 69 and possibly extending to wards
>> > 63, 64, and 66.  You can see an outline of the import plan at
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dhaka_Building_Import.
>> >
>> > I'd like to open a discussion up about this both to inform you and also
>> in
>> > case their are any questions or concerns we can discuss them in advance.
>> >  I'm hoping to import the data by the end of the week, before August
>> 16th.
>> >  If you are interested please take a look at the plan I've written on
>> the
>> > wiki page and post any items for discussion here on the list.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Jeff
>> >
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>> Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14850, US.
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2013-05-20 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi Guys,

Who is currently administering this list?
I would imagine this email thread would have been considered
important, but it keeps getting blocked

Thanks
Larry


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Re: [Talk-bd] OrbView-3 high resolution imagery available

2012-05-14 Thread Larry O'Neill
Wow!

I was just about to run out of Bing to trace major roads from =0)
I thought I'd have to start tracing lanes and tracks, this should keep me
going for a while longer

Larry

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Syed Ishtiaque Ahmed <
ishtia...@csebuet.org> wrote:

> Great !
>
> Thanks,
> Ishtiaque
>
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> A slippy map of OrbView-3 high resolution TMS coverage of Bangladesh
>> (and an encompassing polygon) is available:
>>
>> http://osm.arkemie.org/satview/?zoom=7&lat=23.5169&lon=90.29485&layers=0B00TF
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jean-Guilhem
>>
>>
>> Le 07/05/2012 10:27, Jean-Guilhem Cailton a écrit :
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > 144 scenes of OrbView-3 satellite, made freely available by USGS, with 1
>> > m resolution (panchromatic), with less than 10% cloud cover, terrain
>> > corrected (L1Gst) and contrast enhanced are now available as a TMS
>> service.
>> >
>> > They can thus be used in Potlatch and JOSM, to trace roads, streets,
>> > populated places, waterways...
>> >
>> > They cover some areas for which no high resolution Bing imagery was
>> > available so far.
>> >
>> > For instructions for use, see
>> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bangladesh#OrbView-3_hires_imagery
>> >
>> > Let me know if you have any question.
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> >
>> > Jean-Guilhem
>> >
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Re: [Talk-bd] Confirmed: Presentation and Meeting in BRAC University

2012-04-18 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi All,


I got back to Ireland a few days ago, and settling back into normal life
after a great 2 weeks in Bangladesh.
Would some of you be able to type up some of your notes from the meeting we
had, as I noticed at least 4 participants were taking notes and I wasn't
one of them =0)

I have begun editing the map already with some information I had gathered,
mostly I have put in roads in Dhaka that are currently under construction.
There is one that I had marked as construction some time ago which is
probably open at this point, but I didnt get the chance to confirm it (
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=143870423) Can someone let me know if
this flyover is currently open?
The Dhaka City Guide Map from the mappa (www.mappa.com.bd) has it marked as
"Bijoy Sharani Tejgaon Ling Road". There is obviously a spelling mistake
there, but nonetheless we would need independent verification of it before
we can use it.

I know one of the points that was raised in the meeting was the possibility
of establishing an OSM Bangladesh Chapter.
There is a wiki document on Local Chapters (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters) which lays
out the guidelines for this.
It might be a while before we can meet all of the criteria for this, but it
could be something that could be a target...

I will continue to go through my traces and other information in the coming
days and weeks and put in more edits, hopefully I'll remember to post
summaries of particularly interesting changesets on this list and the
facebook group.

Thanks
Larry



On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Larry O'Neill wrote:

> Great to meet those of you who made it, will email further when I'm back
> in Ireland, and back to regular internet access =0)
>
> Thanks
> Larry
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Larry O'Neill wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Confirming the time for the presentation and meeting:
>> 10:00 - 12:00 on Tuesday the 10th. (two days time)
>> BRAC University, 65-66 Mahakali-Gulshan Road
>>
>> I think we will likely meet initially downstairs near the enterance.
>> I sincerely hope that you can all make it there.
>> If you are late, dont worry, just come on in anyway =0)
>> If some of you would only be able to make it for 12:00, it would good too.
>>
>> Could someone throw this information up on the facebook group, maybe
>> even create a facebook event for it?
>>
>> Hope to see you Tuesday!
>> Thanks
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/12, Larry O'Neill  wrote:
>> > Hi Ben,
>> >
>> > It'd be great if you could make it!
>> >
>> > Larry
>> >
>> > On 4/2/12, Ben Abelshausen  wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I will probably be joining too if possible... I'm in Dhaka from the 8th
>> >> of
>> >> april.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Ben
>> >> www.14k.be
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Larry O'Neill 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi All,
>> >>>
>> >>> We seem to be drifting towards a presentation and meeting in BRAC
>> >>> University on the 10th of April. (Tuesday, 8 days time!)
>> >>> I will be giving a short presentation on the Humanitarian
>> >>> OpenStreetMap team, and discussing the potential and possibilities for
>> >>> the map in Bangladesh.
>> >>> If you know anyone else who might be interested in these things,
>> >>> please pass this on.
>> >>> Further details, like the exact time will be confirmed by Hasan Shahid
>> >>> Ferdous.
>> >>> I hope to see many of you there.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Larry
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Re: [Talk-bd] Confirmed: Presentation and Meeting in BRAC University

2012-04-12 Thread Larry O'Neill
Great to meet those of you who made it, will email further when I'm back in
Ireland, and back to regular internet access =0)

Thanks
Larry

On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Larry O'Neill wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Confirming the time for the presentation and meeting:
> 10:00 - 12:00 on Tuesday the 10th. (two days time)
> BRAC University, 65-66 Mahakali-Gulshan Road
>
> I think we will likely meet initially downstairs near the enterance.
> I sincerely hope that you can all make it there.
> If you are late, dont worry, just come on in anyway =0)
> If some of you would only be able to make it for 12:00, it would good too.
>
> Could someone throw this information up on the facebook group, maybe
> even create a facebook event for it?
>
> Hope to see you Tuesday!
> Thanks
> Larry
>
>
> On 4/3/12, Larry O'Neill  wrote:
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > It'd be great if you could make it!
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > On 4/2/12, Ben Abelshausen  wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I will probably be joining too if possible... I'm in Dhaka from the 8th
> >> of
> >> april.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Ben
> >> www.14k.be
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Larry O'Neill 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> We seem to be drifting towards a presentation and meeting in BRAC
> >>> University on the 10th of April. (Tuesday, 8 days time!)
> >>> I will be giving a short presentation on the Humanitarian
> >>> OpenStreetMap team, and discussing the potential and possibilities for
> >>> the map in Bangladesh.
> >>> If you know anyone else who might be interested in these things,
> >>> please pass this on.
> >>> Further details, like the exact time will be confirmed by Hasan Shahid
> >>> Ferdous.
> >>> I hope to see many of you there.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Larry
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[Talk-bd] Confirmed: Presentation and Meeting in BRAC University

2012-04-07 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi All,

Confirming the time for the presentation and meeting:
10:00 - 12:00 on Tuesday the 10th. (two days time)
BRAC University, 65-66 Mahakali-Gulshan Road

I think we will likely meet initially downstairs near the enterance.
I sincerely hope that you can all make it there.
If you are late, dont worry, just come on in anyway =0)
If some of you would only be able to make it for 12:00, it would good too.

Could someone throw this information up on the facebook group, maybe
even create a facebook event for it?

Hope to see you Tuesday!
Thanks
Larry


On 4/3/12, Larry O'Neill  wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> It'd be great if you could make it!
>
> Larry
>
> On 4/2/12, Ben Abelshausen  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I will probably be joining too if possible... I'm in Dhaka from the 8th
>> of
>> april.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ben
>> www.14k.be
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Larry O'Neill 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> We seem to be drifting towards a presentation and meeting in BRAC
>>> University on the 10th of April. (Tuesday, 8 days time!)
>>> I will be giving a short presentation on the Humanitarian
>>> OpenStreetMap team, and discussing the potential and possibilities for
>>> the map in Bangladesh.
>>> If you know anyone else who might be interested in these things,
>>> please pass this on.
>>> Further details, like the exact time will be confirmed by Hasan Shahid
>>> Ferdous.
>>> I hope to see many of you there.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Larry
>>>
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Re: [Talk-bd] Presentation and Meeting in BRAC University

2012-04-03 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi Ben,

It'd be great if you could make it!

Larry

On 4/2/12, Ben Abelshausen  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I will probably be joining too if possible... I'm in Dhaka from the 8th of
> april.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ben
> www.14k.be
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Larry O'Neill  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We seem to be drifting towards a presentation and meeting in BRAC
>> University on the 10th of April. (Tuesday, 8 days time!)
>> I will be giving a short presentation on the Humanitarian
>> OpenStreetMap team, and discussing the potential and possibilities for
>> the map in Bangladesh.
>> If you know anyone else who might be interested in these things,
>> please pass this on.
>> Further details, like the exact time will be confirmed by Hasan Shahid
>> Ferdous.
>> I hope to see many of you there.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Larry
>>
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[Talk-bd] Presentation and Meeting in BRAC University

2012-04-02 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi All,

We seem to be drifting towards a presentation and meeting in BRAC
University on the 10th of April. (Tuesday, 8 days time!)
I will be giving a short presentation on the Humanitarian
OpenStreetMap team, and discussing the potential and possibilities for
the map in Bangladesh.
If you know anyone else who might be interested in these things,
please pass this on.
Further details, like the exact time will be confirmed by Hasan Shahid Ferdous.
I hope to see many of you there.

Thanks
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[Talk-bd] meeting on the 10th

2012-03-28 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi All,

If we were able to organise a meeting at either the BRAC centre or the
UNICEF office on the 10th of April, could some of you reply to confirm if
you can be there? We would need to know how many of you would attend.

Thanks
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Re: [Talk-bd] Talk-bd Digest, Vol 12, Issue 3

2012-03-26 Thread Larry O'Neill
Forgot to add the list

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Larry O'Neill wrote:

> Hi Sajid,
>
> It's good to hear form you, and the project you are describing definitely
> sounds interesting.
> I hope that we will be able to meet when I am in Bangladesh, but I am
> still waiting for word on a location where soemthing could be organised.
> Would you be able to suggest something in this regard?
>
> Thanks
> Larry
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:34 PM, phoenix  wrote:
>
>> hello larry,
>> I'm sajid from Bangladesh. I along with Kallol vai and my team from BUET
>> started a voluntary project named 'Smart Blood Query' which is a mobile
>> based blood donor searching system. we want to integrate open street map
>> with the project to make the system more accurate & efficient. it'll be
>> very much helpful for us to get ur advice & suggestions in this mapping
>> project. we want to work with u during ur stay in BD. pls let me know what
>> u think.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 6:00 PM, wrote:
>>
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>>> I will be in Bangladesh soon for about 2 weeks, the beginning of next
>>> month.
>>> My time is quite limited, but there is the possibility that I might be
>>> able
>>> to meet someone to give the memory cards for the GPS devices and possibly
>>> discuss progress and direction.
>>> I would prefer to do this at a location for an NGO rather than a
>>> University, would any of you be able to make any suggestions for this? I
>>> know that some of you have some NGO involvement, perhaps you could help
>>> out
>>> with a location for about half an hour?
>>>
>>> Thanks
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>>
>>
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>>
>> -Sajid
>> Batch '05
>> Dept. of CSE, BUET
>>
>>
>> *It’s good to leave each day behind,** **like flowing water, free of
>> sadness.** **Yesterday is gone and its tale told.** **Today new seeds
>> are growing.*
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[Talk-bd] Going to Bangladesh

2012-03-23 Thread Larry O'Neill
I will be in Bangladesh soon for about 2 weeks, the beginning of next month.
My time is quite limited, but there is the possibility that I might be able
to meet someone to give the memory cards for the GPS devices and possibly
discuss progress and direction.
I would prefer to do this at a location for an NGO rather than a
University, would any of you be able to make any suggestions for this? I
know that some of you have some NGO involvement, perhaps you could help out
with a location for about half an hour?

Thanks
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[Talk-bd] Licence change data loss...

2012-03-01 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi All,

As some of you may be aware, OSM is changing to a new license, and new
Contributer Terms.
This presnets a chalenge in terms of users that have not responded, or have
rejected the new terms.
As of April 1st, any data that hasnt been relicensed will be removed.
April 1st is a hard deadline for the license change, so any users who have
not signed on will have all of their data removed form the map.
This includes large chunks of Dhanmondi and Baridhara, for example.

There are two things we can do about this.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Asking_users_to_accept_the_ODbL
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Remapping

Obviously, asking users to accept is much easier.
So I asked Simon Poole to build a list of users that are involved, and how
many objects would be lost.
The list for Bangladesh is quite short:
http://odbl.poole.ch/bangladesh-20120213-20120229-poly.html
Orange means no decision - possibly the user is not aware. Red is a user
hat has rejected.
Does anyone want to help me with contacting undecided users?

In terms of remapping, these are two tools that show what data we are going
to lose if we do nothing:
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=90.41177&lat=23.77358&zoom=10
http://cleanmap.poole.ch/?zoom=11&lat=23.76511&lon=90.42847&layers=00B0

With any hope we'll be able to clean this up, and avoid losing large
ammounts of data.
Is anyone willing to jump on board with this and get going with it?

Larry
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[Talk-bd] Road classification proposals

2012-02-28 Thread Larry O'Neill
Wiki update!

I have updated the wiki with two proposals for tagging schemes.
I am advocating the second one, as I think it will be simpler to implement
and maintain.
Any comments?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Bangladesh#Proposals


Thanks
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Re: [Talk-bd] Bing and road classification

2012-02-19 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi All,

It has come to my attention that some of my links in these emails arent
working depengin on what DNS resolver you are using, so expanding these:

The relation marking out the hires imagery areas:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1360344
Detail of the impact of Bing imagery in Ireland:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.03&lon=-7.497&zoom=10&layers=M
My recent changeset near Mymensingh:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10721820

Let me know if these fail!

Larry



On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Larry O'Neill wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I did a bit today from Bing traces:
> osm.org/browse/changeset/10721820
>
> Would anyone be able to advise me on road classification?
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Larry O'Neill wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am just after putting together a relation that defines the areas of
>> Bangladesh that are covered with good aerial imagery:
>> http://osm.org/?relation=1360344
>> Much of it is in the border regions, but significant territory has really
>> good coverage.
>>
>> Recently we got some new imagery in Ireland, which we have been using to
>> great effect to map places that were previously fairly blank.
>> The edge of our imagery has become well defined:
>> http://osm.org/?lat=54.03&lon=-7.497&zoom=10&layers=M
>>
>> I was thinking of doing some editing in Bangladesh along similar lines,
>> to emphasise the quality of this resource.
>> Before I start with it though, I wanted to ask about road classification
>> in Bangladesh.
>> If I was to start tracing from aerial imagery, I wouldn't be sure about
>> how to tag the roads.
>>
>> I propose that we have a discussion on establishing a scheme and
>> convention for classifying roads in Bangladesh.
>> From what I have read so far, the road network in Bangladesh has
>> classifications for National Highways, Regional Highways and Zilla Roads.
>> I am not sure if there are further classifications or categories of roads
>> - can anyone advise me on this?
>> Also, I am unsure if we are permitted to use the 
>> http://www.rhd.gov.bd/information as a source for OSM.
>> Could anyone verify this?
>> One of the maps on the site has a note on it stating that it is for RHD
>> purposes only and can't be used for anything else.
>> Does anyone on this list have advice on asking the RHD for permission to
>> use some of their information?
>>
>> If this is not a viable option, would a contact in a civil engineering
>> department of one of the universities be a reasonably authoritative source
>> on road classification?
>>
>> Any information any of you could add to this could certainly help here...
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-bd] Bing and road classification

2012-02-18 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi All,

I did a bit today from Bing traces:
osm.org/browse/changeset/10721820

Would anyone be able to advise me on road classification?

Larry


On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Larry O'Neill wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am just after putting together a relation that defines the areas of
> Bangladesh that are covered with good aerial imagery:
> http://osm.org/?relation=1360344
> Much of it is in the border regions, but significant territory has really
> good coverage.
>
> Recently we got some new imagery in Ireland, which we have been using to
> great effect to map places that were previously fairly blank.
> The edge of our imagery has become well defined:
> http://osm.org/?lat=54.03&lon=-7.497&zoom=10&layers=M
>
> I was thinking of doing some editing in Bangladesh along similar lines, to
> emphasise the quality of this resource.
> Before I start with it though, I wanted to ask about road classification
> in Bangladesh.
> If I was to start tracing from aerial imagery, I wouldn't be sure about
> how to tag the roads.
>
> I propose that we have a discussion on establishing a scheme and
> convention for classifying roads in Bangladesh.
> From what I have read so far, the road network in Bangladesh has
> classifications for National Highways, Regional Highways and Zilla Roads.
> I am not sure if there are further classifications or categories of roads
> - can anyone advise me on this?
> Also, I am unsure if we are permitted to use the 
> http://www.rhd.gov.bd/information as a source for OSM.
> Could anyone verify this?
> One of the maps on the site has a note on it stating that it is for RHD
> purposes only and can't be used for anything else.
> Does anyone on this list have advice on asking the RHD for permission to
> use some of their information?
>
> If this is not a viable option, would a contact in a civil engineering
> department of one of the universities be a reasonably authoritative source
> on road classification?
>
> Any information any of you could add to this could certainly help here...
>
> Larry
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Talk-bd] Bing and road classification

2012-02-14 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi All,

I am just after putting together a relation that defines the areas of
Bangladesh that are covered with good aerial imagery:
http://osm.org/?relation=1360344
Much of it is in the border regions, but significant territory has really
good coverage.

Recently we got some new imagery in Ireland, which we have been using to
great effect to map places that were previously fairly blank.
The edge of our imagery has become well defined:
http://osm.org/?lat=54.03&lon=-7.497&zoom=10&layers=M

I was thinking of doing some editing in Bangladesh along similar lines, to
emphasise the quality of this resource.
Before I start with it though, I wanted to ask about road classification in
Bangladesh.
If I was to start tracing from aerial imagery, I wouldn't be sure about how
to tag the roads.

I propose that we have a discussion on establishing a scheme and convention
for classifying roads in Bangladesh.
>From what I have read so far, the road network in Bangladesh has
classifications for National Highways, Regional Highways and Zilla Roads.
I am not sure if there are further classifications or categories of roads -
can anyone advise me on this?
Also, I am unsure if we are permitted to use the
http://www.rhd.gov.bd/information as a source for OSM.
Could anyone verify this?
One of the maps on the site has a note on it stating that it is for RHD
purposes only and can't be used for anything else.
Does anyone on this list have advice on asking the RHD for permission to
use some of their information?

If this is not a viable option, would a contact in a civil engineering
department of one of the universities be a reasonably authoritative source
on road classification?

Any information any of you could add to this could certainly help here...

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Re: [Talk-bd] Editing, documenting, making great maps of Bangladesh!

2012-02-14 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi Ishitiaque,

Apologies for the delay in replying.
I had a quick look at the report, and it looks great.
I am unsure about any requirement for reporting to the OSMF about progress
since the gps devices were donated - I might ask about it though.
I do think that reporting is certainly a good idea, but first we should
find out about any requirements for it...

Thanks
Larry

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Syed Ishtiaque Ahmed  wrote:

> Great.
>
> Yes, you can send us the edited map.
>
> Please let us know if this article can be considered a s areport for OSM
> progress in BD ? We know we have to submit one to OSMF regarding the
> progress of OSM ihere.
>
> Regards,
> Ishtiaque
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Larry O'Neill wrote:
>
>> Hi Ishtiaque,
>>
>> I think we both understand the difficulty of co-ordinating over a long
>> distance =0)
>> This email list could be a very valuable resource for making progress,
>> and I will be sending regular updates on my mapping.
>>
>> My last edit in Bangladesh was on the Kamal Ataturk between Banani and
>> Gulshan. I converted it to a dual carriageway road.
>> Previously it was in as a single way, which doesnt fully reflect the
>> reality on the ground.
>> That edit was based partly on local knowledge from when i was there, but
>> also on the bing aerial imagery.
>> I might send a mail with more details this evening.
>>
>> Thanks for the attachment too, I hope I'll get time this evening to read
>> through it.
>>
>> best regards
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Syed Ishtiaque Ahmed <
>> ishtia...@csebuet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Larry,
>>>
>>> I am really sorry that I could not make a proper co-ordination between
>>> you and the local mappers. I have really been having a tough time with my
>>> PhD. But I can share with you an article that we published in an
>>> International Conference at Dhaka regarding the prospect of OSM (attached).
>>>
>>> Since I am now in USA, it has also become tough for me to manage
>>> everything personally. But the infrastructure I built there in BD for OSM
>>> should work. Hasan Shahid Ferdous is still looking after the OSM projects.
>>> We could not get response from many students when you were in BD simple
>>> because that was the end of their semester. Now their exam will take
>>> another 1 month. I believe they can work on OSM from March 2012. You can
>>> check that by posting in the facebook group.
>>>
>>> We are more than happy that you want to contribute to the local OSM of
>>> BD. We would always appreciate your concern regarding our beautiful country.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Ishtiaque
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:48 AM, Larry O'Neill wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I've been doing a fair bit of work on OpenStreetMap over the last while.
>>>> This started after I got back from my last trip to Bangladesh in early
>>>> December last year.
>>>> I hadn't edited OSM in almost 5 months, which was the biggest gap since
>>>> i got involved.
>>>> After collecting gps traces in Bogra, Saidpur, Banderban, Coxs Bazaar
>>>> and Dhaka, I decided not to waste any time in getting the map updated.
>>>> The experience of doing stuff with OSM again sucked me back into it,
>>>> and since the new year, my activity on OSM has increased hugely.
>>>>
>>>> Then I realised something - the vast majority of my recent work has
>>>> been in Ireland, and very little in Bangladesh.
>>>> The reason I was putting off Bangladeshi edits was because I was
>>>> slightly unsure about how to approach it.
>>>> There is alot of potential in Bangladesh for OSM, with great sources of
>>>> information, and enthusiastic people.
>>>> Being on the other side of the world, it's difficult for me to get a
>>>> feeling for how the Bangladeshi community maps.
>>>> And so I started thinking "I'll leave this bit till later, maybe
>>>> discuss it with the local Bangladeshi mappers..."
>>>>
>>>> Up until now, I havent actually discussed any mapping with you, the
>>>> Bangladesh OSM community.
>>>> This is something I intend to correct.
>>>> So any time I make a significant edit from now on in Bangladesh, I will
>>>> be emailing this list about the where, how, why, and everything else.
>>>> I really hope this wont be a one-way thing, and that we get some active
>>>> discussion going.
>>>>
>>>> Wishing you all the best, and happy mapping!
>>>>
>>>> Larry O'Neill
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Re: [Talk-bd] The Kamal Ataturk Dual Carriageway

2012-01-28 Thread Larry O'Neill
Thanks Ishtiaque,

Anyone got any comments or questions on it?

Larry


On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Syed Ishtiaque Ahmed  wrote:

> Thank you Larry for your contribution. I am sure this will help our young
> mappers.
>
> ishtiaque
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Larry O'Neill wrote:
>
>> AAAH, the screenshots are too big for the email server to allow them.
>> I'll try to find a handy online location for them later so that you can
>> see them.
>> Or, you could open JOSM and look at the area around Banani Market and
>> Gulshan2 Circle
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Larry O'Neill wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> This is my first descriptive document on my edits in Bangladesh, and I
>>> certainly hope it wont be the last.
>>> On the 7th of January, I submitted  osm.org/browse/changeset/10322877
>>> This is my description of why and how this was done.
>>>
>>> Dhaka has alot of dual carriageways - more than many cities I have been
>>> in.
>>> Navigating through Dhaka will almost always involve using a dual
>>> carriageway road at some point.
>>> This can introduce some interesting navigational challenges, as the
>>> physical barrier between the two carriageways imposes obvious restrictions.
>>> In many cases in Dhaka, turning right at a junction with a DC is not an
>>> option, left is the only way you can go.
>>> This reality is not really reflected if the dual carriageway is mapped
>>> as a single carriageway.
>>> An example of this exists here:
>>> osm.org/?lat=23.76438&lon=90.37224&zoom=16
>>> Mirpur road is marked on the map as a single carriageway, and so it is
>>> reasonable to assume that coming from Aurangajeb Road, you can drive
>>> straight to Lake Road, or turn right to go south on Mirpur Road.
>>> The concrete wall would decide otherwise if you tried this, and so the
>>> map doesnt really reflect what's on the ground.
>>> Navigational software based on this data will trust the data, and so the
>>> data needs to reflect the reality.
>>>
>>> This was the case with Kamal Ataturk, and so it was changed.
>>> The editing of it was relatively simple, but it did rely on the use of
>>> the Bing aerial imagery, and may not be entirely correct.
>>> The Bing imagery of Dhaka is an incredibly valuable resource
>>> [nb: I am a JOSM user, I havent dont any of this in potlatch, any
>>> potlatch users please feel free to reply with equivalent descriptions...]
>>> 1) open JOSM
>>> 2) go to File menu, Download from OSM. OR hit the download button on the
>>> main toolbar. OR hit Ctrl+Shift-D
>>> 3) select the area containing the road to be edited
>>> 4) download and allow it to render the data.
>>> 5) go to Imagery menu, Bing Sat.
>>> 6) after the background image has loaded, it may need to be moved
>>> slightly. Imagery menu, New offset.
>>> 7) use this to realign the imagery as well as you can. You may need to
>>> match it against existing OSM data or gps traces. Click and drag on the
>>> main editing pane.
>>> 8) hopefully the barrier between the two sides of the DC road will be
>>> visible, click and drag the current road to one side of the barrier for its
>>> full length. Realign or add nodes if necessary.
>>> 9) after moving the existing data to one side for the full length of the
>>> road, click the draw nodes button on the edit toolbar, and draw in the
>>> opposite carriageway for the full length.
>>> 10) make sure the direction of the existing way is correct, and change
>>> if necessary [click on a way and hit r to reverse it]. Add the oneway=yes
>>> tag to all sections of the existing way.
>>> 11) select the existing way and hit Ctrl+c to copy it. Click on your new
>>> way and hit Ctrl+Shift-V to paste the tags. This saves a lot of time.
>>> 12) edit any junctions along the road, showing where a minor road joins
>>> both carriageways, and where it only joins one side.
>>> 13) make sure that all possible movements at either and of the DC are
>>> maintained
>>> 14) upload the data and you're done!
>>>
>>> My first screenshot above shows the two junctions either side of Banani
>>> Market, where cars can be seen turning through a gap in the wall.
>>> The junction west of this reflects the restriction the continuous wall
>>> imposes.
>>> My second screenshot shows how the Gu

Re: [Talk-bd] The Kamal Ataturk Dual Carriageway

2012-01-24 Thread Larry O'Neill
AAAH, the screenshots are too big for the email server to allow them.
I'll try to find a handy online location for them later so that you can see
them.
Or, you could open JOSM and look at the area around Banani Market and
Gulshan2 Circle

Larry

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Larry O'Neill wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> This is my first descriptive document on my edits in Bangladesh, and I
> certainly hope it wont be the last.
> On the 7th of January, I submitted  osm.org/browse/changeset/10322877
> This is my description of why and how this was done.
>
> Dhaka has alot of dual carriageways - more than many cities I have been in.
> Navigating through Dhaka will almost always involve using a dual
> carriageway road at some point.
> This can introduce some interesting navigational challenges, as the
> physical barrier between the two carriageways imposes obvious restrictions.
> In many cases in Dhaka, turning right at a junction with a DC is not an
> option, left is the only way you can go.
> This reality is not really reflected if the dual carriageway is mapped as
> a single carriageway.
> An example of this exists here: osm.org/?lat=23.76438&lon=90.37224&zoom=16
> Mirpur road is marked on the map as a single carriageway, and so it is
> reasonable to assume that coming from Aurangajeb Road, you can drive
> straight to Lake Road, or turn right to go south on Mirpur Road.
> The concrete wall would decide otherwise if you tried this, and so the map
> doesnt really reflect what's on the ground.
> Navigational software based on this data will trust the data, and so the
> data needs to reflect the reality.
>
> This was the case with Kamal Ataturk, and so it was changed.
> The editing of it was relatively simple, but it did rely on the use of the
> Bing aerial imagery, and may not be entirely correct.
> The Bing imagery of Dhaka is an incredibly valuable resource
> [nb: I am a JOSM user, I havent dont any of this in potlatch, any potlatch
> users please feel free to reply with equivalent descriptions...]
> 1) open JOSM
> 2) go to File menu, Download from OSM. OR hit the download button on the
> main toolbar. OR hit Ctrl+Shift-D
> 3) select the area containing the road to be edited
> 4) download and allow it to render the data.
> 5) go to Imagery menu, Bing Sat.
> 6) after the background image has loaded, it may need to be moved
> slightly. Imagery menu, New offset.
> 7) use this to realign the imagery as well as you can. You may need to
> match it against existing OSM data or gps traces. Click and drag on the
> main editing pane.
> 8) hopefully the barrier between the two sides of the DC road will be
> visible, click and drag the current road to one side of the barrier for its
> full length. Realign or add nodes if necessary.
> 9) after moving the existing data to one side for the full length of the
> road, click the draw nodes button on the edit toolbar, and draw in the
> opposite carriageway for the full length.
> 10) make sure the direction of the existing way is correct, and change if
> necessary [click on a way and hit r to reverse it]. Add the oneway=yes tag
> to all sections of the existing way.
> 11) select the existing way and hit Ctrl+c to copy it. Click on your new
> way and hit Ctrl+Shift-V to paste the tags. This saves a lot of time.
> 12) edit any junctions along the road, showing where a minor road joins
> both carriageways, and where it only joins one side.
> 13) make sure that all possible movements at either and of the DC are
> maintained
> 14) upload the data and you're done!
>
> My first screenshot above shows the two junctions either side of Banani
> Market, where cars can be seen turning through a gap in the wall.
> The junction west of this reflects the restriction the continuous wall
> imposes.
> My second screenshot shows how the Gulshan end of the DC was terminated,
> allowing for all possible movements.
> This could have been achieved by joining all of the nodes at a single
> point in the centre of Gulshan circle.
> While that would have been topologically correct, and some would argue in
> favor of mapping it that way, it is my personal preference to do it as
> shown.
> Note also in my second screenshot the poorly aligned Bing imagery. This
> kind of alignment should be corrected before using it to edit.
> Another thing to note is the fact that the circular road around the
> Gulshan junction is cut a the two dual carriageway sections on  the south
> and west.
> The northern and eastern roads leading out of this junction are still
> incorrectly mapped as single carriageways.
> After doing this once, you may find it surprisingly quick to do it for
> another road in Dhaka or any other Bangladeshi town or city.
>
> If a

Re: [Talk-bd] Editing, documenting, making great maps of Bangladesh!

2012-01-23 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi Ishtiaque,

I think we both understand the difficulty of co-ordinating over a long
distance =0)
This email list could be a very valuable resource for making progress, and
I will be sending regular updates on my mapping.

My last edit in Bangladesh was on the Kamal Ataturk between Banani and
Gulshan. I converted it to a dual carriageway road.
Previously it was in as a single way, which doesnt fully reflect the
reality on the ground.
That edit was based partly on local knowledge from when i was there, but
also on the bing aerial imagery.
I might send a mail with more details this evening.

Thanks for the attachment too, I hope I'll get time this evening to read
through it.

best regards
Larry


On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Syed Ishtiaque Ahmed <
ishtia...@csebuet.org> wrote:

> Hi Larry,
>
> I am really sorry that I could not make a proper co-ordination between you
> and the local mappers. I have really been having a tough time with my PhD.
> But I can share with you an article that we published in an International
> Conference at Dhaka regarding the prospect of OSM (attached).
>
> Since I am now in USA, it has also become tough for me to manage
> everything personally. But the infrastructure I built there in BD for OSM
> should work. Hasan Shahid Ferdous is still looking after the OSM projects.
> We could not get response from many students when you were in BD simple
> because that was the end of their semester. Now their exam will take
> another 1 month. I believe they can work on OSM from March 2012. You can
> check that by posting in the facebook group.
>
> We are more than happy that you want to contribute to the local OSM of BD.
> We would always appreciate your concern regarding our beautiful country.
>
> Best,
> Ishtiaque
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:48 AM, Larry O'Neill wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've been doing a fair bit of work on OpenStreetMap over the last while.
>> This started after I got back from my last trip to Bangladesh in early
>> December last year.
>> I hadn't edited OSM in almost 5 months, which was the biggest gap since i
>> got involved.
>> After collecting gps traces in Bogra, Saidpur, Banderban, Coxs Bazaar and
>> Dhaka, I decided not to waste any time in getting the map updated.
>> The experience of doing stuff with OSM again sucked me back into it, and
>> since the new year, my activity on OSM has increased hugely.
>>
>> Then I realised something - the vast majority of my recent work has been
>> in Ireland, and very little in Bangladesh.
>> The reason I was putting off Bangladeshi edits was because I was slightly
>> unsure about how to approach it.
>> There is alot of potential in Bangladesh for OSM, with great sources of
>> information, and enthusiastic people.
>> Being on the other side of the world, it's difficult for me to get a
>> feeling for how the Bangladeshi community maps.
>> And so I started thinking "I'll leave this bit till later, maybe discuss
>> it with the local Bangladeshi mappers..."
>>
>> Up until now, I havent actually discussed any mapping with you, the
>> Bangladesh OSM community.
>> This is something I intend to correct.
>> So any time I make a significant edit from now on in Bangladesh, I will
>> be emailing this list about the where, how, why, and everything else.
>> I really hope this wont be a one-way thing, and that we get some active
>> discussion going.
>>
>> Wishing you all the best, and happy mapping!
>>
>> Larry O'Neill
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[Talk-bd] Editing, documenting, making great maps of Bangladesh!

2012-01-23 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi All,

I've been doing a fair bit of work on OpenStreetMap over the last while.
This started after I got back from my last trip to Bangladesh in early
December last year.
I hadn't edited OSM in almost 5 months, which was the biggest gap since i
got involved.
After collecting gps traces in Bogra, Saidpur, Banderban, Coxs Bazaar and
Dhaka, I decided not to waste any time in getting the map updated.
The experience of doing stuff with OSM again sucked me back into it, and
since the new year, my activity on OSM has increased hugely.

Then I realised something - the vast majority of my recent work has been in
Ireland, and very little in Bangladesh.
The reason I was putting off Bangladeshi edits was because I was slightly
unsure about how to approach it.
There is alot of potential in Bangladesh for OSM, with great sources of
information, and enthusiastic people.
Being on the other side of the world, it's difficult for me to get a
feeling for how the Bangladeshi community maps.
And so I started thinking "I'll leave this bit till later, maybe discuss it
with the local Bangladeshi mappers..."

Up until now, I havent actually discussed any mapping with you, the
Bangladesh OSM community.
This is something I intend to correct.
So any time I make a significant edit from now on in Bangladesh, I will be
emailing this list about the where, how, why, and everything else.
I really hope this wont be a one-way thing, and that we get some active
discussion going.

Wishing you all the best, and happy mapping!

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Re: [Talk-bd] [OSM-talk] Problems in Chittagong, Bangladesh

2011-12-17 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi Dave,

I realise I am dragging up an old thread, but I have just recently gotten
back from 3 weeks in Bangladesh, and am getting myself back into doing OSM
stuff after a bit of a gap.
There is a talk-bd list, and I am hoping to get momentum going on it again.
The OSM community in BD is quite small, but slowly growing and there is a
lot of potential.
Are you still in Bangladsh these days or were you only there for a short
time?
Give me a shout on or off list if you are still interested in the
Bangladesh map.

Thanks
Larry


On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Janko Mihelić  wrote:

>
> 2011/10/11 Dave Stanley 
>
>> Thanks for the advice.  The Bing image does appear to be spot on.  I have
>> started having a tidy up and will continue when I can.  Most of the GPS
>> tracks will be from me in that area.  Unfortunately I only travel a few
>> routes for my work.  I am moving on to another city now, so I will see what
>> has happened there.
>>
>> Dave
>
>
> The city only has roads and a few railway stations. I suggest
> concentrating on biggest amenities, like hotels, hospitals, embassies,
> shopping centers..
>
> And try to find out what these motorway 
> junctionsactually are. If my 5 
> minute google research is right, those are suburbs.
>
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Re: [Talk-bd] Cooch Behar Esquimos

2011-05-24 Thread Larry O'Neill
Hi Brendan,

This is fantastic news!
If it would be possible to get vector data for the map that would be ideal.
CDR is fine, we should be able to figure out a way to convert to global
co-ordinates for use with OSM.
In the meantime, I'll do some preliminary work with the pdf.
The OSM data in this region is minimal, so this will be a great addition.

Thanks
Larry


On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Brendan Whyte  wrote:

> Larry,
>
>
>
> I have no objection at all, and am happy to see the maps being used.
>
> I see you have the pdf version from the University of Melbourne’s e-print
> repository.
>
> I can also supply any of the line maps as Coreldraw files (.cdr) should you
> need/prefer vector data. Or I may be able to export them in different
> formats (EPS etc), but as I don’t use those other vector formats, I can’t
> say as to their quality.
>
>
>
> Brendan Whyte
>
>
>
> *From:* Larry O'Neill [mailto:larryone...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 May 2011 8:34 PM
> *To:* Brendan Whyte; talk-bd@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Cooch Behar Esquimos
>
>
>
> Dear Dr. Whyte,
>
>
> I recently came across your 2002 study of the Cooch Behar enclaves of India
> and Bangladesh, and it has made for captivating reading (although I have not
> yet finished it).
> Your study came to my attention when I was looking at refinements that
> could be made to the Bangladeshi border on Open Street Map.
> My realisation that the projects current border may be inaccurate came when
> I found someone had given St Martins Island to Myanmar (first and subsequent
> drafts, until today)
> While I was aware of the existence of enclaves along the border, the
> number, size, and complexity of them is something I could never have
> imagined.
> With a view towards further refinement of the Open Street Map data, I am
> hence asking for permission (on behalf of osm.org) to use some of the maps
> included in your document as a source for our map.
> If you require a more formal request or further details on Open Street Map,
> please do not hesitate to ask.
>
>
> Thanks
> Larry O'Neill
>
>
> p.s. to clarify in the event of multiple copies/versions of your
> publication, the URL that it was retrieved from was
> http://eprints.unimelb.edu.au/archive/1443/
>
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[Talk-bd] Cooch Behar Esquimos

2011-05-18 Thread Larry O'Neill
>
> Dear Dr. Whyte,
>
>
> I recently came across your 2002 study of the Cooch Behar enclaves of India
> and Bangladesh, and it has made for captivating reading (although I have not
> yet finished it).
> Your study came to my attention when I was looking at refinements that
> could be made to the Bangladeshi border on Open Street Map.
> My realisation that the projects current border may be inaccurate came when
> I found someone had given St Martins Island to Myanmar (first and subsequent
> drafts, until today)
> While I was aware of the existence of enclaves along the border, the
> number, size, and complexity of them is something I could never have
> imagined.
> With a view towards further refinement of the Open Street Map data, I am
> hence asking for permission (on behalf of osm.org) to use some of the maps
> included in your document as a source for our map.
> If you require a more formal request or further details on Open Street Map,
> please do not hesitate to ask.
>
>
> Thanks
> Larry O'Neill
>
>
> p.s. to clarify in the event of multiple copies/versions of your
> publication, the URL that it was retrieved from was
> http://eprints.unimelb.edu.au/archive/1443/
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Re: [Talk-bd] Faculty Staff contacts

2011-05-14 Thread Larry O'Neill
Dear Dr. Phyland,

I seem to be having some bad luck in contacting any staff at the University
of Melbourne.
You were listed in the Out-of-Office reply from Dr Yorks address.
Would you be able to help with the request below?

Thanks
Larry O'Neill



On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Larry O'Neill wrote:

> Dear Dr. York,
>
> I have been attempting to get in contact with a Dr Brendan R. Whyte, who
> published a 2002 paper that I am interested in.
> However, I am getting a mail delivery failure from the servers at your
> university, and I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of
> any place where i might be able to find more recent contact information for
> him?
>
>
> Thanks
> Larry O'Neill
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Larry O'Neill 
> Date: Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:56 PM
> Subject: Cooch Behar Esquimos
> To: bwh...@unimelb.edu.au, talk-bd@openstreetmap.org
>
>
> Dear Dr. Whyte,
>
>
> I recently came across your 2002 study of the Cooch Behar enclaves of India
> and Bangladesh, and it has made for captivating reading (although I have not
> yet finished it).
> Your study came to my attention when I was looking at refinements that
> could be made to the Bangladeshi border on Open Street Map.
> My realisation that the projects current border may be inaccurate came when
> I found someone had given St Martins Island to Myanmar (first and subsequent
> drafts, until today)
> While I was aware of the existence of enclaves along the border, the
> number, size, and complexity of them is something I could never have
> imagined.
> With a view towards further refinement of the Open Street Map data, I am
> hence asking for permission (on behalf of osm.org) to use some of the maps
> included in your document as a source for our map.
> If you require a more formal request or further details on Open Street Map,
> please do not hesitate to ask.
>
>
> Thanks
> Larry O'Neill
>
>
> p.s. to clarify in the event of multiple copies/versions of your
> publication, the URL that it was retrieved from was
> http://eprints.unimelb.edu.au/archive/1443/
>
>
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[Talk-bd] Faculty Staff contacts

2011-05-14 Thread Larry O'Neill
Dear Dr. York,

I have been attempting to get in contact with a Dr Brendan R. Whyte, who
published a 2002 paper that I am interested in.
However, I am getting a mail delivery failure from the servers at your
university, and I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of
any place where i might be able to find more recent contact information for
him?


Thanks
Larry O'Neill



-- Forwarded message --
From: Larry O'Neill 
Date: Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:56 PM
Subject: Cooch Behar Esquimos
To: bwh...@unimelb.edu.au, talk-bd@openstreetmap.org


Dear Dr. Whyte,


I recently came across your 2002 study of the Cooch Behar enclaves of India
and Bangladesh, and it has made for captivating reading (although I have not
yet finished it).
Your study came to my attention when I was looking at refinements that could
be made to the Bangladeshi border on Open Street Map.
My realisation that the projects current border may be inaccurate came when
I found someone had given St Martins Island to Myanmar (first and subsequent
drafts, until today)
While I was aware of the existence of enclaves along the border, the number,
size, and complexity of them is something I could never have imagined.
With a view towards further refinement of the Open Street Map data, I am
hence asking for permission (on behalf of osm.org) to use some of the maps
included in your document as a source for our map.
If you require a more formal request or further details on Open Street Map,
please do not hesitate to ask.


Thanks
Larry O'Neill


p.s. to clarify in the event of multiple copies/versions of your
publication, the URL that it was retrieved from was
http://eprints.unimelb.edu.au/archive/1443/
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[Talk-bd] Cooch Behar Esquimos

2011-05-14 Thread Larry O'Neill
Dear Dr. Whyte,


I recently came across your 2002 study of the Cooch Behar enclaves of India
and Bangladesh, and it has made for captivating reading (although I have not
yet finished it).
Your study came to my attention when I was looking at refinements that could
be made to the Bangladeshi border on Open Street Map.
My realisation that the projects current border may be inaccurate came when
I found someone had given St Martins Island to Myanmar (first and subsequent
drafts, until today)
While I was aware of the existence of enclaves along the border, the number,
size, and complexity of them is something I could never have imagined.
With a view towards further refinement of the Open Street Map data, I am
hence asking for permission (on behalf of osm.org) to use some of the maps
included in your document as a source for our map.
If you require a more formal request or further details on Open Street Map,
please do not hesitate to ask.


Thanks
Larry O'Neill


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publication, the URL that it was retrieved from was
http://eprints.unimelb.edu.au/archive/1443/
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Re: [Talk-bd] [OSM-talk] Bing coverage of Bangladesh

2011-02-09 Thread Larry O'Neill
I would be careful of the offset with the Bing tho - I have had to adjust it
to my gps traces before using it.
The offset isnt huge, but it is there
I'll be on night shift in work for the next few days, so i'll be doing a bit
more mapping if its quiet.

Larry


On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Ishtiaque Ahmed wrote:

> Thanks Jean-Guilhem. This is a very good news for us, the BD mappers. We
> will try make the best utilization of these imageries provided by Bing.
>
> Thanks,
> Ishtiaque
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:23 AM, nicolas chavent  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jean-Guilhem for this serach on imagery and thanks Ant for putting
>> up this tool
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Experimenting with this new tool [1] by Ant, I've seen that there is a
>>> very large area where high resolution Bing imagery is available, east
>>> and south of Chittagong (including Cox's Bazar, for example).
>>>
>>> Also, there is now coverage north of Dhaka, that includes Mymensingh.
>>>
>>> This is in addition to previously available coverage of Dhaka,
>>> Chittagong, Khulna and Rajshahi [2].
>>>
>>> The recent changes (within last month) suggest that Bing coverage is
>>> probably being progressively extended, and that it might be worth
>>> revisiting this new coverage map regularly (simply by panning over it).
>>>
>>> Best wishes, and thanks Ant for this great tool!
>>>
>>> Jean-Guilhem
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=23.64163686689797&lon=90.45184066307274&zoom=7
>>> [2]
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Bangladesh#Bing_hires_imagery
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 07/02/2011 15:41, ant a écrit :
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I have noticed mappers make various attempts to map coverage of Bing
>>> > high resolution imagery. Some drawed areas around the imagery and
>>> > stuffed them into relations, others created xml files etc. etc. (see
>>> > the wiki page [1])
>>> > I thought that a world coverage map wasn't feasible with those
>>> > methods, so I took Martijn van Exel's Bing analyzer and tweaked in a
>>> > way that it creates a simple red/green map of hires coverage
>>> > (green=hires available, red=hires not available).
>>> > You will see that only a few spots have been rendered so far, but that
>>> > is due to the way it works: You must zoom in to a hires zoom level in
>>> > order to trigger the rendering. Try it out:
>>> > http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/
>>> >
>>> > cheers
>>> > ant
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing/Coverage
>>> >
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>>>
>>>
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