Hi Jeff,

It looks really fantastic... can't wait to see this done to the rest of the
city. =0)

Larry


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Jeff Haack <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I've completed the import of buildings
> in wards 67, 68, and 69.  You can see it at
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/23.7158/90.4053
>
> There are some areas where I've left some minor roads overlapping with
> buildings during the import, and I apologize for this.  Over the next two
> months we'll have teams of surveyors going over the area, correcting these
> mistakes, and mapping in greater detail.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Jeff Haack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> The data is of quite good quality.  I'll have to re-look at the
>> methodology they used, but it must have involved digitizing high-res
>> imagery and field surveys.  And it lines up pretty well with the Bing
>> imagery - I think this data is 4-5 years old if I remember correctly.  So
>> although it's a dense area I think it will be a good clean dataset to
>> import, and if there are any problems they should be corrected during the
>> field surveys.  And indeed BUET is going to be integrally involved in all
>> of this.
>>
>> Emilie,
>> It looks like there aren't more than a couple dozen buildings in this
>> first area, and I'm planning to manually conflate and import the data
>> anyway, however this might be useful later on if there are further imports.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Emilie Laffray <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Larry,
>>>
>>> I have written for the French import of landuse some SQL queries that
>>> can be adapted to check overlap with existing building and to choose which
>>> one to import or not. It means that you have to add an extra steps but it
>>> would help quite a bit that way not to have overlaps.
>>> I would be happy to explain how to do this.
>>>
>>> Cordially
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 August 2013 12:04, Larry O'Neill <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jorieke,
>>>>
>>>> Good to hear from you again!
>>>> The CEGIS data looks like it's quite detailed. Comparing some buildings
>>>> that I surveyed and put on the map
>>>>  to what the CEGIS has, they compare quite well.
>>>> There will be conflicts and overlap for sure, I'd imagine one of the
>>>> challenges will be buildings and road data overlapping.
>>>> I would agree that a less dense area might be easier to start with, but
>>>> it's up to Jeff if he's the one who'll be doing the legwork on it.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff, we haven't really done much about boundary data schemas yet. In
>>>> terms of borders, we did have some fun at some point with the enclaves and
>>>> exclaves on the northern border. The worlds only counter-counter-enclave is
>>>> there. =0) A proper schema for the various divisions and districts would be
>>>> a good idea. I think currently the only data we have for these boundaries
>>>> are the zilas in the Chittagong division.
>>>>
>>>> With regard to the RHD, I recall there was someone either on this list
>>>> or the facebook group that had a contact there. After a little digging in
>>>> facebook, it appears it was Rafid Wahid Yaad that was digging about with
>>>> that - it could be a good lead to follow.
>>>>
>>>> In terms of other stuff, I'm only getting back into osm related things
>>>> after about 7 months travelling.
>>>> I've noticed the Bing imagery for Bangladesh was significantly updated.
>>>> I had done loads of road tracing from it previously, and it looks like we
>>>> now have a significant amount more of the country covered since the last
>>>> update =0)
>>>> I'll be re-opening the irc channel, going back through all the emails
>>>> and facebook postings from the last while, and really looking forward to
>>>> doing more stuff with you guys again!
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Jorieke Vyncke <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed great to see these actions in Bangladesh! The country has big
>>>>> potentials in the mapping!
>>>>>
>>>>> About the import, I checked the wiki and everything seems really okay!
>>>>> I only have one big question about the data. I absolutely don't know
>>>>> the CEGIS, so I have no idea about the quality of their data.
>>>>> Only one thing I know is the area you propose to import is a really
>>>>> densely built area. If you would propose to import Gulshan of Dhanmundi, I
>>>>> would have said go on, but an import of this area it is quite difficult I
>>>>> think.
>>>>> So I think it is really important to link the import with surveys on
>>>>> the field! I also know the mappers of BUET (with sir Ferdous, Rifat and
>>>>> Shubrami) already did some surveys in Old Dhaka. I don't know which area
>>>>> exactly, but I would say take it in account when you are doing the import.
>>>>>
>>>>> About the permission, I can sent you a letter just to sign, we
>>>>> developed to got data in Cameroon and the Central African Republic last
>>>>> year. I don't know anything about how you are trying to get the 
>>>>> permission,
>>>>> but in Cameroon and the Central African Republic we learned that the best
>>>>> strategy is often: just give them a prepared document so they just have to
>>>>> sign. It will go a lot faster.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck with the import, and I will check it too! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jorieke
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/8/12 Jeff Haack <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are so many data sets kicking around and yes if the roads and
>>>>>> highway department haven't been brought in already I'm sure they will be.
>>>>>>  This is still in a very nascent phase acquiring data permissions from
>>>>>> anybody can take a lot of legwork, so I'll keep this in mind as I get to
>>>>>> know the situation a bit better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm glad to see this road classification schema.  I wonder if there
>>>>>> has ever been a discussion of an admin level schema? (see
>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Larry O'Neill <[email protected]
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aah, I'd almost forgotten that WB were involved. Exciting stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had been talking about the data that the Roads and Highways
>>>>>>> Department have available on their site.
>>>>>>> The idea was to ask for permission to use the road reference
>>>>>>> information that's there.
>>>>>>> Most of the national roads have been traced from Bing imagery, but
>>>>>>> classification still needs to be figured out.
>>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Bangladesh#Roads
>>>>>>> If The World Bank were able to talk to the Ministry of Water
>>>>>>> Resources to get building info, they might be able and/or willing to 
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>> with this?
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Jeff Haack 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Larry,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To be honest I'm not sure how CEGIS got involved - I'm not directly
>>>>>>>> in touch.  The World Bank has been piecing together this project to 
>>>>>>>> begin
>>>>>>>> mapping in these wards at the end of the month, and there are a few
>>>>>>>> footprint data sets floating around.  We're still awaiting final 
>>>>>>>> written
>>>>>>>> permission to import the data, but hope to have it soon.  I'll be 
>>>>>>>> coming to
>>>>>>>> Dhaka the last couple weeks of August to help do OSM training and get 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> initiative off the ground, so I expect you'll be able to see the data
>>>>>>>> filling into OSM over the next couple months and hopefully beyond.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Larry O'Neill <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really great to hear about this, how did you make contact with the
>>>>>>>>> CEGIS Jeff?
>>>>>>>>> Will be following this closely on Friday, assuming we get the
>>>>>>>>> final word to go ahead.
>>>>>>>>> Eunus, OSM data can be used for whatever research you need it for,
>>>>>>>>> so this will be available once its imported.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Mohammed Eunus Ali <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>>>>> I am really happy and delighted to see this great initiative. I
>>>>>>>>>> am currently doing some research on query processing 3D maps. I 
>>>>>>>>>> think this
>>>>>>>>>> data will be really helpful for my research (I assume data are open 
>>>>>>>>>> for all
>>>>>>>>>> /researchers!).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Eunus
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 20:30:40 +0530
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jeff Haack <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Talk-bd] Old Dhaka Building Import
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>>>>>>>>>>> Hello OpenStreetMap Bangladesh,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm preparing a data import for the old city in Dhaka of
>>>>>>>>>>> buildings, in
>>>>>>>>>>> support of the Open Cities Project<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://opencitiesproject.com/cities/dhaka/>,
>>>>>>>>>>> which will involve data collection of buildings using
>>>>>>>>>>> OpenStreetMap.  The
>>>>>>>>>>> import will be of both building structures and ward boundaries,
>>>>>>>>>>> specifically within wards 67, 68, and 69 and possibly extending
>>>>>>>>>>> to wards
>>>>>>>>>>> 63, 64, and 66.  You can see an outline of the import plan at
>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dhaka_Building_Import.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to open a discussion up about this both to inform you
>>>>>>>>>>> and also in
>>>>>>>>>>> case their are any questions or concerns we can discuss them in
>>>>>>>>>>> advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>  I'm hoping to import the data by the end of the week, before
>>>>>>>>>>> August 16th.
>>>>>>>>>>>  If you are interested please take a look at the plan I've
>>>>>>>>>>> written on the
>>>>>>>>>>> wiki page and post any items for discussion here on the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
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>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 00:38:25 +0600
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Syed Ishtiaque Ahmed <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Jeff Haack <[email protected]>, "Md. Rashidujjaman Rifat"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: talk-bd <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Talk-bd] Old Dhaka Building Import
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>>>>>>>>>>> Great initiative, Jeff!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mapping old Dhaka is very important for many reasons. We are
>>>>>>>>>>> really excited
>>>>>>>>>>> to hear more about it as the project progresses.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ishtiaque
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jeff Haack <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello OpenStreetMap Bangladesh,
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > I'm preparing a data import for the old city in Dhaka of
>>>>>>>>>>> buildings, in
>>>>>>>>>>> > support of the Open Cities Project<
>>>>>>>>>>> http://opencitiesproject.com/cities/dhaka/>,
>>>>>>>>>>> > which will involve data collection of buildings using
>>>>>>>>>>> OpenStreetMap.  The
>>>>>>>>>>> > import will be of both building structures and ward boundaries,
>>>>>>>>>>> > specifically within wards 67, 68, and 69 and possibly
>>>>>>>>>>> extending to wards
>>>>>>>>>>> > 63, 64, and 66.  You can see an outline of the import plan at
>>>>>>>>>>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dhaka_Building_Import.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > I'd like to open a discussion up about this both to inform you
>>>>>>>>>>> and also in
>>>>>>>>>>> > case their are any questions or concerns we can discuss them
>>>>>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>> >  I'm hoping to import the data by the end of the week, before
>>>>>>>>>>> August 16th.
>>>>>>>>>>> >  If you are interested please take a look at the plan I've
>>>>>>>>>>> written on the
>>>>>>>>>>> > wiki page and post any items for discussion here on the list.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> > Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>>>>> PhD Student (Fulbright S&T Fellow)
>>>>>>>>>>> Department of Information Science
>>>>>>>>>>> Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14850, US.
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>>>>>>>>>> Associate Professor
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>>>>>>>>>> Bangladesh University of Engineering and Technology (BUET)
>>>>>>>>>> Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh
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