[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM down?

2015-03-24 Thread Glenn Plas
FYI:

Before you start slamming the keyboard and blame your ISP: openstreetmap
seems to be down now, both API and the map.

Glenn

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Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM down?
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 08:44:23 +0100
From: Maarten Deen 
To: t...@openstreetmap.org

The only response from www and api I get is "Incomplete response
received from application". Is it only my or is OSM down?

Regards,
Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Local chapter OSMF

2015-03-24 Thread Julien Fastré
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I fully support the creation of a local chapter !

Julien

Le 23/03/15 12:31, Nicolas Pettiaux a écrit :
> 
> Le Lun 23 mars 2015 12:15, Ben Abelshausen a écrit :
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Sander Deryckere
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Will OFKN as a VZW be the local chapter? Will it be a part of
>>> OFKN, or a new VZW? I guess it needs to be some sort of
>>> organisation.
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for an actual question! :-)
>> 
>> The plan is that nothing will change, we will still be a working
>> group in Open Knowledge Belgium but also a local chapter.
>> 
>> As I read the new requirements of a local chapter this is
>> perfectly ok. It used to be the case that we would have to be a
>> seperate VZW focused on only OSM but that has changed.
> 
> +1
> 
> I am completely in favor of such a work and I am ready to
> contribute as much as I can
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nicolas
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Adressen via AGIV Crab

2015-03-24 Thread Sus Verhoeven
Een andere mogelijkheid is de zonegrens, die in AGIV soms zichtbaar is als
gemeentegrens, op de juiste plaats te leggen in OSM. Dat werkt ook tal van
fouten weg. Het duurt wel een tijdje voor de resultaten weergegeven worden.
Hopelijk valt daar niets op te zeggen.

Groetjes

Sus



2015-03-20 8:33 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :

>
> 2015-03-19 12:57 GMT+01:00 Verhoeven Fr :
>
>> - De grens die Sander gebruikte is fout ( men heeft die toch ook ergens
>> anders gaan halen, mocht dat ?)
>
>
> ja, want AGIV heeft de expliciete toestemming gegeven. Hoewel het dan
> natuurlijk weer de vraag is waar hebben zij de data gehaald. En mogen zij
> die dat wel herverdelen.
>
> Is het wel zo dat de post belang heeft bij juiste postcodes ? Of hebben
> zij een bestand dat ze verkopen aan grote bedrijven waarmee ze geld
> verdienen. Dan zullen ze liever niet hebben dat je dat ook via een gratis
> tool kan (die gebaseerd is op hun data).
> In de UK en Canada lacht de post er dus niet mee. Daar mag je de postcodes
> niet van hun site halen.
>
> mvg
>
> m
>
>
>
>
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[OSM-talk-be] allryder - beta test invitation

2015-03-24 Thread Glenn Plas
Did anyone besides me received this invitation in your openstreetmap
inbox?  Claiming I'm a top contributer in Brussels is not true, I don't
do a lot there in relation to all my work, so I suspect this is kind of
a bulk message.

Feel free to comment , message receive from :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/gemmaa

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Hi there!

I'm Gemma and I'm working for a civic startup that is now building a
smart mobility app to help people in cities to get around better
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Allryder).

Brussels is one of the first cities we are heading to and I have noticed
that you are one of the top contributors in the city, so kudos! Thanks
to people like you, innovative solutions like ours can be built :) In
our app, we are using some OSM data but we also contribute data back to
the community too.

We are now building an app which shows you the best routes around cities
by all modes of transport (including public transport, bike sharing and
taxis too!), all this with real-time reports from other users.

I was wondering, would you be interested in becoming a beta tester and
have exclusive access to the app before it goes live in April? You can
sign up here: http://bit.ly/1AfDItz and I would send you a link to the
app via email in the coming days/weeks.

Let's make getting around Brussels smarter together :)

Gemma
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] allryder - beta test invitation

2015-03-24 Thread Jo
I got it last week and I'm pretty sure I'm not a top contributor in
Brussels either. But maybe they see Belgium as the capital of Brussels...

Anyway, they are legit, so I did subscribe. Didn't hear anything of it
anymore though.

Jo

2015-03-24 13:42 GMT+01:00 Glenn Plas :

> Did anyone besides me received this invitation in your openstreetmap
> inbox?  Claiming I'm a top contributer in Brussels is not true, I don't
> do a lot there in relation to all my work, so I suspect this is kind of
> a bulk message.
>
> Feel free to comment , message receive from :
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/gemmaa
>
> __
>
> Hi there!
>
> I'm Gemma and I'm working for a civic startup that is now building a
> smart mobility app to help people in cities to get around better
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Allryder).
>
> Brussels is one of the first cities we are heading to and I have noticed
> that you are one of the top contributors in the city, so kudos! Thanks
> to people like you, innovative solutions like ours can be built :) In
> our app, we are using some OSM data but we also contribute data back to
> the community too.
>
> We are now building an app which shows you the best routes around cities
> by all modes of transport (including public transport, bike sharing and
> taxis too!), all this with real-time reports from other users.
>
> I was wondering, would you be interested in becoming a beta tester and
> have exclusive access to the app before it goes live in April? You can
> sign up here: http://bit.ly/1AfDItz and I would send you a link to the
> app via email in the coming days/weeks.
>
> Let's make getting around Brussels smarter together :)
>
> Gemma
> --
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM down?

2015-03-24 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-03-24 09:03, Glenn Plas wrote :
> FYI:
>
> Before you start slamming the keyboard and blame your ISP: openstreetmap
> seems to be down now, both API and the map.
>
> Glenn
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM down?
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 08:44:23 +0100
> From: Maarten Deen 
> To: t...@openstreetmap.org
>
> The only response from www and api I get is "Incomplete response
> received from application". Is it only my or is OSM down?
>
> Regards,
> Maarten
Remotely related, it's quite a time that I often see pages insisting to
be blank, only at zoom 19.
Also, yesterday, an update did not show up for more than one hour, only
at zoom 18, other zooms OK.
All that despite frequent browser refreshes?

Any shattered keyboard out there? ;-)

André.





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[OSM-talk-be] meeting with CIRB

2015-03-24 Thread Julien Fastré
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Ben and I had a meeting with CIRB today.

CIRB is thinking about "new projects" for the coming years. They are
actually brainstorming/thinking/meeting people about what would be
interesting to develop.

They are also interested by OSM. They guess OSM can help them to
achieve their missions, but they are quite unclear about concretely
what to do. They also have some admiration for the work done by
contributors.

At first, they were thinking about "change detection" from OSM to
URBIS data. They think also about using OSM as background layer for
outside of the Brussels Regio (some of their clients (public
institutions in Brussels) are working around Brussels).

During the meeting, we explained some tools and organization that they
didn't know (they were quite well documented).

We stressed the discussion on one aspect: which interest do you have
into investing in OSM ? Our message: if you have some interest, you
could invest in differents manners to help improve the tools, the
data, or building the community...

We discussed some ideas like :

- - hosting some data or extracts for OSM on a future data portal. This
might help to promote our data, and help to improve them (the better
visibility we have, the better data we will have) ;
- - the cirb is interested in using OSM for starting cadastre of data
(like benches, street furnitures) that their customers
(municipalities, ...) could need. This would be great, because by
virality our licence will force those customers to redistribute freely
the improved data if they want to share it to a third person ;
- - hosting tiles with dedicated styles for Brussels/Belgium. (We
launched the idea to loan a server from the CIRB data center to the
OSM community :-))
- - the routing functionalities has also some interest for them ;

They also asked if osm contributors would be interested in "diff" of
urbis data : what has changed in their data from date X to date Y.
This would ease the update operation between urbis and OSM (we also
suggest to make a diff between their data and what is imported in OSM).

The CIRB is collecting those ideas, will write some internal documents
and continue the process internally. We will be kept in touch.

We also spoke about the mapping party on 25th of April !

Ben & Julien
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[OSM-talk-be] Atlas de buurtwegen (laatste keer)

2015-03-24 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Allen,

Het is in orde! De atlas der buurtwegen is ok voor hergebruik binnen OSM en
is beschikbaar onder de 'Gratis Open Data Licentie Vlaanderen'. Ik heb het
nodige op wiki gedaan.

Dit wil dus zeggen dat alle data die in het verleden overgenomen is nu ook
zeker in orde is.

Met dank aan Marc Gemis en andere voor de hulp met alle nodige emails!

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Atlas de buurtwegen (laatste keer)

2015-03-24 Thread Jo
Prachtig! Bedankt voor alle inspanningen hieromtrent!

Jo

Op 24 maart 2015 20:42 schreef Ben Abelshausen :

> Allen,
>
> Het is in orde! De atlas der buurtwegen is ok voor hergebruik binnen OSM
> en is beschikbaar onder de 'Gratis Open Data Licentie Vlaanderen'. Ik heb
> het nodige op wiki gedaan.
>
> Dit wil dus zeggen dat alle data die in het verleden overgenomen is nu ook
> zeker in orde is.
>
> Met dank aan Marc Gemis en andere voor de hulp met alle nodige emails!
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
> Best regards,
>
> Ben Abelshausen
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] meeting with CIRB

2015-03-24 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux

Le Mar 24 mars 2015 17:47, Julien Fastré a écrit :
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> Ben and I had a meeting with CIRB today.
Great news. Thanks for the note.

Who have you met ? Eric Auquière ? Who was the highest ranked decision
maker ? Who where the technical people ?

> CIRB is thinking about "new projects" for the coming years. They are
> actually brainstorming/thinking/meeting people about what would be
> interesting to develop.

good point

> They are also interested by OSM. They guess OSM can help them to
> achieve their missions, but they are quite unclear about concretely
> what to do.

we can provide ideas and suggestions ;-)

> They also have some admiration for the work done by
> contributors.

good
> At first, they were thinking about "change detection" from OSM to
> URBIS data. They think also about using OSM as background layer for
> outside of the Brussels Regio (some of their clients (public
> institutions in Brussels) are working around Brussels).
+1

> During the meeting, we explained some tools and organization that they
> didn't know (they were quite well documented).

which tools ?

> We stressed the discussion on one aspect: which interest do you have
> into investing in OSM ? Our message: if you have some interest, you
> could invest in differents manners to help improve the tools, the
> data, or building the community...
indeed

> We discussed some ideas like :
>
> - - hosting some data or extracts for OSM on a future data portal. This
> might help to promote our data, and help to improve them (the better
> visibility we have, the better data we will have) ;
+1
> - - the cirb is interested in using OSM for starting cadastre of data
> (like benches, street furnitures) that their customers
> (municipalities, ...) could need. This would be great, because by
> virality our licence will force those customers to redistribute freely
> the improved data if they want to share it to a third person ;
+1
> - - hosting tiles with dedicated styles for Brussels/Belgium. (We
> launched the idea to loan a server from the CIRB data center to the
> OSM community :-))
+1
> - - the routing functionalities has also some interest for them ;

indeed.

We could also imagine for example importing the weekly calendar of road
workds done today by the AED administration and that could be integrated
with OSM and helped improve much the routing of OSM ... and give OSM
routing some advantages with respect to the competition (road work could
be taken into account in the OSM routing and make it more convenient - as
free service - than any other)
>
> They also asked if osm contributors would be interested in "diff" of
> urbis data : what has changed in their data from date X to date Y.
> This would ease the update operation between urbis and OSM (we also
> suggest to make a diff between their data and what is imported in OSM).
+1

> The CIRB is collecting those ideas, will write some internal documents
> and continue the process internally. We will be kept in touch.

> We also spoke about the mapping party on 25th of April !

great. Could CIRB support this event ? Participate ? Spread the word about
it ?

Much thanks, Ben & Julien

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] meeting with CIRB

2015-03-24 Thread eMerzh
Yey!

Thanks a lot for your time , your dedication and your ideas!

I'm really curious to know what they will come with... Some human
ressources, some computing power or some visibility or some help for better
collaborations 

Thanks again :)
Le 24 mars 2015 17:48, "Julien Fastré"  a écrit :

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> Ben and I had a meeting with CIRB today.
>
> CIRB is thinking about "new projects" for the coming years. They are
> actually brainstorming/thinking/meeting people about what would be
> interesting to develop.
>
> They are also interested by OSM. They guess OSM can help them to
> achieve their missions, but they are quite unclear about concretely
> what to do. They also have some admiration for the work done by
> contributors.
>
> At first, they were thinking about "change detection" from OSM to
> URBIS data. They think also about using OSM as background layer for
> outside of the Brussels Regio (some of their clients (public
> institutions in Brussels) are working around Brussels).
>
> During the meeting, we explained some tools and organization that they
> didn't know (they were quite well documented).
>
> We stressed the discussion on one aspect: which interest do you have
> into investing in OSM ? Our message: if you have some interest, you
> could invest in differents manners to help improve the tools, the
> data, or building the community...
>
> We discussed some ideas like :
>
> - - hosting some data or extracts for OSM on a future data portal. This
> might help to promote our data, and help to improve them (the better
> visibility we have, the better data we will have) ;
> - - the cirb is interested in using OSM for starting cadastre of data
> (like benches, street furnitures) that their customers
> (municipalities, ...) could need. This would be great, because by
> virality our licence will force those customers to redistribute freely
> the improved data if they want to share it to a third person ;
> - - hosting tiles with dedicated styles for Brussels/Belgium. (We
> launched the idea to loan a server from the CIRB data center to the
> OSM community :-))
> - - the routing functionalities has also some interest for them ;
>
> They also asked if osm contributors would be interested in "diff" of
> urbis data : what has changed in their data from date X to date Y.
> This would ease the update operation between urbis and OSM (we also
> suggest to make a diff between their data and what is imported in OSM).
>
> The CIRB is collecting those ideas, will write some internal documents
> and continue the process internally. We will be kept in touch.
>
> We also spoke about the mapping party on 25th of April !
>
> Ben & Julien
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