[OSM-talk-be] covered or tunnel

2013-11-03 Thread marc bessieres
Hello,

With Keep Right, there is the following error:
http://keepright.at/report_map.php?schema=72error=25113833

The error text is:
This node is a junction of ways on different layers:
#38962740http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38962740
(-1),#116844652 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/116844652(0)

It is because the way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38962740 has
the tag tunnel=yes

When I look at the wiki for the tunnel definition
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tunnel

And the one of covered
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:covered

I presume that tunnel shall be replaced by covered as this way is a
galerie at the same ground level as the 2 streets it connects to.

So I looked at other galeries I know in Bxl to see how they're tagged.
I see that galerie louise has also tunnel=yes
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31001460

And galerie de la reine doesn't have anything.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/87501645

What should I do?
I would believe put covered everywhere, and replace tunnel when it is used.
Or I can do it only for the error of Keep Right?
Or anything else you would suggest.

Cheers,
Marc
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] covered or tunnel

2013-11-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:36:53PM +0100, marc bessieres wrote:
 Hello,
 
 With Keep Right, there is the following error:
 http://keepright.at/report_map.php?schema=72error=25113833
 
 The error text is:
 This node is a junction of ways on different layers:
 #38962740http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38962740
 (-1),#116844652 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/116844652(0)
 
 It is because the way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38962740 has
 the tag tunnel=yes

As far as I know tunnel=yes doesn't imply layer=-1, which
keepright seems to be doing.  I think keepright is wrong to assume
that.  But then Key:layer says that for bridges and tunnels that
are at level 0 you should explicitly put the layer.

 When I look at the wiki for the tunnel definition
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tunnel
 
 And the one of covered
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:covered
 
 I presume that tunnel shall be replaced by covered as this way is a
 galerie at the same ground level as the 2 streets it connects to.

There is also tunnel=building_passage, which might be more clear
then just yes.  It's also very explicit in saying that it should
have the same layer as the buildings (none/0).

As far as I understand it, covered means that there aren't 2 walls
on each side and so that it's open, which as far as I know isn't
the case.


Kurt


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] covered or tunnel

2013-11-03 Thread marc bessieres
2013/11/3 Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be

 On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:36:53PM +0100, marc bessieres wrote:
  Hello,
 
  With Keep Right, there is the following error:
  http://keepright.at/report_map.php?schema=72error=25113833
 
  The error text is:
  This node is a junction of ways on different layers:
  #38962740http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38962740
  (-1),#116844652 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/116844652(0)
 
  It is because the way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38962740has
  the tag tunnel=yes

 As far as I know tunnel=yes doesn't imply layer=-1, which
 keepright seems to be doing.  I think keepright is wrong to assume
 that.  But then Key:layer says that for bridges and tunnels that
 are at level 0 you should explicitly put the layer.


I suppose keepright uses both pieces of information. So I could put the
layer=0.


  When I look at the wiki for the tunnel definition
  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tunnel
 
  And the one of covered
  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:covered
 
  I presume that tunnel shall be replaced by covered as this way is a
  galerie at the same ground level as the 2 streets it connects to.

 There is also tunnel=building_passage, which might be more clear
 then just yes.  It's also very explicit in saying that it should
 have the same layer as the buildings (none/0).


But I think this is better, I missed it when I read the wiki.
So I would go mapping the galeries of Bxl I know like that.
Would that be ok?


 As far as I understand it, covered means that there aren't 2 walls
 on each side and so that it's open, which as far as I know isn't
 the case.

 Ok, I understand the difference now. I think there is such a path on way
to the Mont des Arts
from the Central station.

Thank you Kurt,
Marc
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