Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal, Journée des données ouvertes, 23 février
Pierre, Merci d'avoir été notre «ambassadeur» à Montréal. Á différents niveaux - technique et politique - tu as semé des graines qui, espérons-le, porteront bientôt du fruit... Maintenant... à nous tous de veiller au grain:-) Bruno Remy Le 2013-02-24 22:44, "Pierre Béland" a écrit : > Hi Harald, > > you should come to the next one. It is a very friendly atmosphere with > people both english and french speaking regrouping on a specific project, > writing code, discussing. > > > Pierre > > -- > *De :* Harald Kliems > *À :* Pierre Béland > *Cc :* talk-ca > *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 24 février 2013 21h53 > *Objet :* Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal, Journée des données ouvertes, 23 février > > Pierre, > thanks for your report! I unfortunately could not make it (and my > French still isn't that great anyway). I'm very excited to hear that > the city thinks their data will be ODbL compatible. And the cadastre > data would be great, as Canvec building data is completely useless in > Montreal and we do not have enough contributors to draw buildings by > hand. > Harald. > > 2013/2/24 Pierre Béland : > > Il y avait près de 100 personnes hier réunies au SAT, rue Saint-Laurent à > > Montréal, Cette journée était organisée par QuébecOuvert avec le support > de > > la Ville de Montréal. > > > > Le SAT est un lieu de travail des plus stimulants. On y retrouve aussi > une > > salle de spectaclel semi-sphérique où étaient projetées certaines des > > représentations. Les participants étaient divisés en diverses équipes > qui > > exploitaient des données publiées par la Ville de Montréal. J'ai pu y > voir > > quelques exemples de l'éco-système avec l'utilisation des données OSM. Un > > groupe travaillait sur une appliction de routing. Un autre utilisait les > > infos de la ville de Montréal sur les horaires de stationnement dans les > > rues de Montréal. Une extraction des rues était faite de la base OSM. Des > > attributs étaient ajoutés à ces rues en fonction des interdictions de > > stationner. L'application permet de rechercher des places de > stationnement > > selon une date et un horaire donnée. L'application était également testée > > sur des téléphones multi-fonction. > > > > De nombreuses personnes sont venues discuter avec moi et se sont montrées > > très intéressées par OSM. Je leur ai parlé des nombreuses possibilités de > > réseauter avec les développeurs OSM. > > > > Plusieurs développeurs qu'il faudrait aussi convaincre de contribuer > > davantage à OSM. Il faudrait reprendre l'idée d'une rencontre commune > avec > > OSGEO-qc ou un autre groupe de développeurs. > > > > Nous avons aussi eu des discussions sur les licences de données. La > Ville de > > Montréal nous assure que ces données sont libres et devraient être > > compatibles avec ODbL. Des représentants de la ville ont aussi indiqué > leur > > intention de fournir des données de cadastre. Ceci permettrait d'importer > > dans OSM les infos sur les immeubles à Montréal. > > > > Du côté du gouvernement du Québec, j'ai pu discuter avec le ministre > > Drainville et lui montrer les limitations de la licence de > > donnees.gouv.qc.ca qui nous empêchent actuellement d'utiliser ces > données > > pour OSM. > > > > Pierre > > > > ___ > > Talk-ca mailing list > > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > > > > > -- > Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! > Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 > > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Aerial drones helps geomatics
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: > Aerial drones for OSM is very intriguing. For example mapping new > construction and areas not covered by Bing images or where only low > resolution images are available. I wonder the spec would be for a low cost > drone? Interestingly enough, on another group that I belong to, our American friends are being faced with many states attempting to enact legislation to make it illegal to take pictures, or capture any other part of the sound, electromagnetic spectrum, or even odours via an unmanned aerial vehicle. We fly high altitude balloons with cameras onboard capturing wonderful images of our planet, and if the legislation goes through in these states, it will become illegal to do so. What happens in the USA usually filters over to Canada sooner or later. -- James VE6SRV http://bear.sbszoo.com/sable/sable3.htm ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Community boundaries
New to OSM and learning how to edit. My home address shows the right location on the map but lists it as being in a nearby community. How do i set the size of communities? ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Community boundaries
Stephen: On Mon, 2013-02-25 at 12:31 -0400, Stephen Berthelot wrote: > New to OSM and learning how to edit. My home address shows the right > location on the map but lists it as being in a nearby community. How > do i set the size of communities? What part of Canada are you in? Andrew Aka PurpleMustang, CanvecImport signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] GeoBase tags
Hello: Are the Geobase attribution tags relevant, should I leave them in or strip them out? Andrew aka PurpleMustang, CancevImport signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags
> From: Andrew Allison [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com] > Subject: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags > > Hello: > > Are the Geobase attribution tags relevant, should I leave them in > or strip them out? There's no legal reason why you can't remove the attribution=* tags (or any tag, for that matter). My practice is to remove them when the source=* tag indicates that the source is geobase and I'm editing the way anyways. There may be other import cruft that you want to strip out at the same time. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Community boundaries
Stephen, The Nominatim tool will classify properly the roads in a city when there is an administrative boundary relation defining the limits of the city. It seems that no one have been imported one for your city yet. Be Carefull! Do not try to do it by yourself. It is not an easy task and may cause serious problems if not done properly. When there is no limits, Nominatim uses the node describing the closest town near your road, more or less. Depending on your province, there may be data available. So specify your location and ask on the list what can be done. Pierre > > De : Stephen Berthelot >À : talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >Envoyé le : Lundi 25 février 2013 11h31 >Objet : [Talk-ca] Community boundaries > > >New to OSM and learning how to edit. My home address shows the right location >on the map but lists it as being in a nearby community. How do i set the size >of communities? >___ >Talk-ca mailing list >Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > >___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags
Maybe it would make sense to come up with a consensus of which tags can be stripped. I know that for the US TIGER data JOSM automatically removes the cruft when you edit a way, and we should have this for Geobase/Canvec, too. Harald. On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Paul Norman wrote: >> From: Andrew Allison [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com] >> Subject: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags >> >> Hello: >> >> Are the Geobase attribution tags relevant, should I leave them in >> or strip them out? > > There's no legal reason why you can't remove the attribution=* tags (or any > tag, for that matter). > > My practice is to remove them when the source=* tag indicates that the source > is geobase and I'm editing the way anyways. There may be other import cruft > that you want to strip out at the same time. > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags
Instead of a filter in an editor, why not a osm-bot doing this job? Just my two cents... Bruno Remy Le 2013-02-25 19:46, "Harald Kliems" a écrit : > Maybe it would make sense to come up with a consensus of which tags > can be stripped. I know that for the US TIGER data JOSM automatically > removes the cruft when you edit a way, and we should have this for > Geobase/Canvec, too. > Harald. > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > >> From: Andrew Allison [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com] > >> Subject: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags > >> > >> Hello: > >> > >> Are the Geobase attribution tags relevant, should I leave them in > >> or strip them out? > > > > There's no legal reason why you can't remove the attribution=* tags (or > any tag, for that matter). > > > > My practice is to remove them when the source=* tag indicates that the > source is geobase and I'm editing the way anyways. There may be other > import cruft that you want to strip out at the same time. > > > > > > ___ > > Talk-ca mailing list > > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > > > -- > Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! > Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags
Personally, I haven't imported anything with a geobase tag, but I will remove them if I edit a feature with one. Do they serve any purpose during the import process? --G Sent from my iPhone On 2013-02-25, at 19:51, Bruno Remy wrote: > Instead of a filter in an editor, why not a osm-bot doing this job? > > Just my two cents... > > Bruno Remy > > Le 2013-02-25 19:46, "Harald Kliems" a écrit : >> Maybe it would make sense to come up with a consensus of which tags >> can be stripped. I know that for the US TIGER data JOSM automatically >> removes the cruft when you edit a way, and we should have this for >> Geobase/Canvec, too. >> Harald. >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Paul Norman wrote: >> >> From: Andrew Allison [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com] >> >> Subject: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags >> >> >> >> Hello: >> >> >> >> Are the Geobase attribution tags relevant, should I leave them in >> >> or strip them out? >> > >> > There's no legal reason why you can't remove the attribution=* tags (or >> > any tag, for that matter). >> > >> > My practice is to remove them when the source=* tag indicates that the >> > source is geobase and I'm editing the way anyways. There may be other >> > import cruft that you want to strip out at the same time. >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Talk-ca mailing list >> > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> >> >> >> -- >> Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! >> Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 >> >> ___ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Bruno Remy wrote: > Instead of a filter in an editor, why not a osm-bot doing this job? Well, actually it appears JOSM is already doing what I proposed: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7915 I'm not opposed to a bot but someone has to create it. That's certainly not me. Cheers, Harald. -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
