Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
For example Hamilton's open data license (http://www2.hamilton.ca/NR/rdonlyres/C58984A4-FE11-40B9-A231-8572EB922AAA/0/OpenDataTermsAndConditions_Final.html) at first glance seems OK: Your Use of Data: The City of Hamilton grants you a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, non-exclusive licence to use the Data, including for commercial purposes, subject to the terms and conditions below. You acknowledge and agree that this Licence does not give you a copyright or other proprietary interest in the Data. You may copy, modify, publish, translate, adapt, distribute or otherwise use the Data in any medium, mode or format for any lawful purpose. When you use the Data, you must acknowledge the source of the Data by including the following attribution statement: “Contains public sector Data made available under the City of Hamilton’s Open Data Licence” But then it says: The City of Hamilton may, in its sole discretion, require you to remove the above attribution statement from your continued use of the Data. (Does this mean that Hamilton can revoke our use of the data for whatever reason it wants? Sounds unacceptable to me) And: You must ensure that your use of the Data does not breach or infringe any applicable laws. (So is OSM held responsible if someone breaks the law using OSM data derived from Hamilton Open Data?) And then everything is subject to the Acceptable Use Agreement at http://www.hamilton.ca/government-information/site-policies/acceptable-use-agreement. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
On 2015-07-23 11:54 PM, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: It might be helpful to look at http://openaddresses.io/ which is an project to aggregate address data from various open data portals. I'm a little confused by http://openaddresses.io's licensing: they claim CC0 but retain individual contributor licences. That seems to be getting collection/database rights exactly the wrong way round. Does anyone know which of these (and others) are compatible with the OSM license? Some of the licences are up on CLIPol http://clipol.org/, and you can compare them to OSM's. Usually they're not on the site, and they are all special roll-your-own versions inspired by the UK Open Data Licence. In theory, you can add licences to CLIPol, but it would take a careful legal eye to catch all of the terms. If a city caught the first open data wave and has a licence from ≤ 2011, it's highly likely that you can't use it with OSM. Toronto you can, because they told us we can. cheers, Stewart ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
Hello: I've done some partial work on collecting / writing some scripts that work with the current canvec plus shape files. If you want I can send you a copy. Currently it breaks the files down into the various layers i.e. building, waterway, hydro lines. The idea was that you could pick and choose what data layer you wanted. I haven't touched the scripts in a couple of months, so I'm not sure exactly where I'm at with them. Andrew On Thu, 2015-07-23 at 14:38 -0400, Daniel Begin wrote: Bonjour Andrew, Good initiative! And it will be perfect if you add all necessary links to good practices/warnings about imports!-) I had a look at Canvec+ details (a). - The prepackaged files (250K tiles) are going to be quite large since, from what I understand, they have merged together all (16) underneath 50K. - Custom “areas of interest” might be difficult to manage for data import. - Proposed file formats are similar to what it used to be with standard Canvec, but it does not include OSM format :-( About the script(s) used to convert Canvec to OSM, they were built using FME workbenches linked together with batch files (so, obviously not open source). Best regards, Daniel a) http://geogratis.gc.ca/site/eng/whats-new/intro-canvec -Original Message- From: Andrew MacKinnon [mailto:andrew...@gmail.com] Sent: July-23-15 14:04 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports I am starting to work on importing Open Data datasets. I am using pnorman's ogr2osm script with modified translation files (see https://github.com/andrewpmk/ogr2osm-translations). It will be some time before I actually import anything. I would like to assemble a list of government open data portals in Canada which are compatible with the OSM license. Please add suitable open data sources to [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Open_data]. If they have already been fully imported then you should put a note on that wiki page. Also I am trying to figure out a way to import newer CanVec data. The CanVec files in OSM format at http://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/OSM/pub/ are out of date and appear to have been created in 2010. Is the script that was used to convert CanVec to OSM open source? It looks like there is a new version of CanVec called CanVec+, has anyone here used it yet? I am hoping to do something about the large amount of broken imported data in OSM in Canada and we need a better way of fixing broken CanVec data than copying from the Geobase WMS layer or cutting and pasting from outdated .osm files from 2010. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
On 7/23/2015 8:54 PM, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: Does anyone know which of these (and others) are compatible with the OSM license? Very likely most of them are not released under open licenses. Unfortunately, non-open data gets listed in OpenAddresses and there's no assurance that you can combine data from one source in OpenAddresses with data from another source in it. OpenAddresses is a good fallback source for a geocoder, but I don't know that there are any geocoders that do that yet. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
It might be helpful to look at http://openaddresses.io/ which is an project to aggregate address data from various open data portals. More and more cities have open data now. In Ontario openaddresses.io lists: - Burlington - Guelph - Hamilton - Kitchener - Oakville - Toronto - Waterloo - Welland - Windsor Does anyone know which of these (and others) are compatible with the OSM license? ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
Bonjour Andrew, Good initiative! And it will be perfect if you add all necessary links to good practices/warnings about imports!-) I had a look at Canvec+ details (a). - The prepackaged files (250K tiles) are going to be quite large since, from what I understand, they have merged together all (16) underneath 50K. - Custom “areas of interest” might be difficult to manage for data import. - Proposed file formats are similar to what it used to be with standard Canvec, but it does not include OSM format :-( About the script(s) used to convert Canvec to OSM, they were built using FME workbenches linked together with batch files (so, obviously not open source). Best regards, Daniel a) http://geogratis.gc.ca/site/eng/whats-new/intro-canvec -Original Message- From: Andrew MacKinnon [mailto:andrew...@gmail.com] Sent: July-23-15 14:04 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Open Data Imports I am starting to work on importing Open Data datasets. I am using pnorman's ogr2osm script with modified translation files (see https://github.com/andrewpmk/ogr2osm-translations). It will be some time before I actually import anything. I would like to assemble a list of government open data portals in Canada which are compatible with the OSM license. Please add suitable open data sources to [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Open_data]. If they have already been fully imported then you should put a note on that wiki page. Also I am trying to figure out a way to import newer CanVec data. The CanVec files in OSM format at http://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/OSM/pub/ are out of date and appear to have been created in 2010. Is the script that was used to convert CanVec to OSM open source? It looks like there is a new version of CanVec called CanVec+, has anyone here used it yet? I am hoping to do something about the large amount of broken imported data in OSM in Canada and we need a better way of fixing broken CanVec data than copying from the Geobase WMS layer or cutting and pasting from outdated .osm files from 2010. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Open Data Imports
I am starting to work on importing Open Data datasets. I am using pnorman's ogr2osm script with modified translation files (see https://github.com/andrewpmk/ogr2osm-translations). It will be some time before I actually import anything. I would like to assemble a list of government open data portals in Canada which are compatible with the OSM license. Please add suitable open data sources to [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Open_data]. If they have already been fully imported then you should put a note on that wiki page. Also I am trying to figure out a way to import newer CanVec data. The CanVec files in OSM format at http://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/OSM/pub/ are out of date and appear to have been created in 2010. Is the script that was used to convert CanVec to OSM open source? It looks like there is a new version of CanVec called CanVec+, has anyone here used it yet? I am hoping to do something about the large amount of broken imported data in OSM in Canada and we need a better way of fixing broken CanVec data than copying from the Geobase WMS layer or cutting and pasting from outdated .osm files from 2010. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
