Re: [Talk-GB] Finding Unmapped public rights of way

2013-07-27 Thread Dudley Ibbett
Hi

I'm trying to make use of the row files on rowmaps for derbyshire and 
staffordshire and and merging these with and osm map file to then produce maps 
that can highlight which paths are and aren't mapped.  I can put the derbyshire 
file into JOSM and download parts of the area and merge them to create an osm 
file that I can then save locally and import into Maperative.  A modified rules 
file allows me to produce the prow footpath ways and the osm footpath ways as 
different coloured dotted lines so I can see which are/aren't mapped.  
Unfortunately JOSM doesn't seem to be able to cope with merging large files.  I 
maybe asking to much of it as the files are quite big.  What I would like is to 
be able to get a merged file of the derbyshire, saffordshire row files and the 
equivalent osm map file on a regular basis (highlighting the rows that aren't 
mapped) so I can slowly pick away at the remaining footpaths the need mapping 
in this area.  Does anyone know of a simple way to do this?

Many Thanks

Dudley
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Re: [Talk-GB] Finding Unmapped public rights of way

2013-07-27 Thread Steven Horner
Hello,

If you are just wanting to visualy inspect them, could you do it in
TileMill. I produced a map of a large part of County Durham that showed
both OSM footpaths and PRoW differently coloured. It produced a MBtiles
file which I then converted to Z,X,Y PNG tiles I then added that as a
source into a local OpenLayers site which allowed me to view it from any
browser. You could convert it to another map format with Mobile Atlas
Creator and view the map that way. You could even use the produced map as a
background in JOSM if you then want to trace the paths?

You could also do it in QGIS and could probably get it to highlight only
the paths that are missing.

Not sure if either of those is exactly what you are after.

Steven

On 27 Jul 2013 13:12, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I'm trying to make use of the row files on rowmaps for derbyshire and
 staffordshire and and merging these with and osm map file to then produce
 maps that can highlight which paths are and aren't mapped.  I can put the
 derbyshire file into JOSM and download parts of the area and merge them to
 create an osm file that I can then save locally and import into
 Maperative.  A modified rules file allows me to produce the prow footpath
 ways and the osm footpath ways as different coloured dotted lines so I can
 see which are/aren't mapped.  Unfortunately JOSM doesn't seem to be able to
 cope with merging large files.  I maybe asking to much of it as the files
 are quite big.  What I would like is to be able to get a merged file of the
 derbyshire, saffordshire row files and the equivalent osm map file on a
 regular basis (highlighting the rows that aren't mapped) so I can slowly
 pick away at the remaining footpaths the need mapping in this area.  Does
 anyone know of a simple way to do this?

 Many Thanks

 Dudley

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Re: [Talk-GB] Finding Unmapped public rights of way - SOTM topic?

2013-07-27 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi both,

Those are some really neat ideas! I hope you are thinking about sharing
them at State of the Map in September ;-) We have a theme of change this
year and one of the areas I am interested in is how we manage external data
sources. Public Rights of Way are a great example as it poses several
questions:

1) How do we check that we have included all the PROW routes in OSM? This
is complicated by the fact that our way may not have exactly the same
geometry as the external data's polyline.
2) How can we monitor for changes in the external (Local Authority)
data/shapefiles?
3) Where can automated tests help, and where is manual intervention always
needed?
4) Can we make use of the Cycle Paths merge functionality that was added to
Potlatch 2?

I would love to hear more about this at SOTM 2013. We have some lightning
talks slots and can also print posters for you [see link below]. Perhaps
this would make a good poster?

http://2013.stateofthemap.org/info/call-presentations/

Regards
Rob
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Re: [Talk-GB] Finding Unmapped public rights of way

2013-07-27 Thread Craig Wallace

On 2013-07-27 13:11, Dudley Ibbett wrote:

Hi

I'm trying to make use of the row files on rowmaps for derbyshire and
staffordshire and and merging these with and osm map file to then
produce maps that can highlight which paths are and aren't mapped.  I
can put the derbyshire file into JOSM and download parts of the area and
merge them to create an osm file that I can then save locally and import
into Maperative.  A modified rules file allows me to produce the prow
footpath ways and the osm footpath ways as different coloured dotted
lines so I can see which are/aren't mapped.  Unfortunately JOSM doesn't
seem to be able to cope with merging large files.  I maybe asking to
much of it as the files are quite big.  What I would like is to be able
to get a merged file of the derbyshire, saffordshire row files and the
equivalent osm map file on a regular basis (highlighting the rows that
aren't mapped) so I can slowly pick away at the remaining footpaths the
need mapping in this area.  Does anyone know of a simple way to do this?


Depends on how big the files are, and how much memory you have on your 
computer. You can assign more memory to JOSM, which might help. eg run 
it with a command like this:

java -Xmx1500M -jar josm-tested.jar
That would allow it 1500MB.


Or for merging large files, you could use Osmosis. 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis

ie use a command like this:
osmosis --rx file2.osm --rx file1.osm --m --wx merged.osm

Craig

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