Re: [Talk-GB] SotM: Call for session proposals and Scholarship fund

[Rob Nickerson]

As a quick follow up - today we approved the ticketing system for SotM so
expect that to go online shortly. Just waiting a blog post to be prepared.

This took a tad longer than hoped because we opted to switch away from
EventBrite and move ticketing in house to OSMF's backend. The time
committed this year is well worth it given the fees we save through not
having to rely on EventBrite. This is money that can be channelled into our
scholarship programme :-)

Best,
*Rob*

On 25 April 2016 at 22:41, Rob Nickerson  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> (cross-post to the lists I am member of)
>
> I'm delighted to report that the planning for State of the Map 2016 is
> going well.
>
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[Talk-GB] SotM: Call for session proposals and Scholarship fund

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

(cross-post to the lists I am member of)

I'm delighted to report that the planning for State of the Map 2016 is
going well. We have now opened the call for session proposals
(presentations). You have until Saturday 21st May to submit your idea.
Please see:
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2016/04/19/propose-your-session-to-state-of-the-map-2016/

We have also opened the scholarship programme. This has the same deadline
so don't hesitate. The option is there if you need it so don’t let the cost
of travel stand in your way!
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2016/04/25/we-want-you-at-state-of-the-map-apply-for-a-scholarship/

Best regards,
*Rob*

p.s. There are still sponsorship opportunities should your business want to
support OSM via this route. If interested drop me a note.
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Re: [Talk-GB] UK Capter Community Interest Statement Form CIC36

[Rob Nickerson]

Thanks Brian,

The CIC form makes the vision much clearer (unlike the AoA which is always
going to be a legalise-esque dull document). It's a good reminder of why we
are doing this :-)

The first activity listed touches on "provid[ing] a mechanism for
developing as a community rather than as disparate, scattered individual".
This follows on from my recent comments on the AoA and the contrast I drew
between the template AoA and the Constitution of the (Unincorporated
Association) WM-ODUG. That constitution set out how decision making works
amongst the members which is one element of the activities aim to develop a
community. It's very different from the current proposed AoA for
OpenStreetMap United Kingdom.

Today we have the opportunity to make the AoA more about our desired way of
working, and not just the legal text we refer to when something goes wrong.
In fact one could argue that if the AoA don't match our desired way of
working (the AoA is the Constitution after all) then something has "gone
wrong" before we even start.

As always I look forward to hearing the views of others on this matter.

*Rob*
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Re: [Talk-GB] Crediting OSM (was Birdtrack using OSM maps)

[ael]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 08:39:31PM +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> 
> I noticed recently that it was using OpenStreetMap data; at my
> instigation, it now also prominently credits OSM.


I noticed that my local library was using OSM but with no accreditation.

When I looked (as I recall, on the wiki) for a link to send them, I had
to dig deep and just found this:
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/48/can-i-use-these-maps-on-my-website

I seem to remember that the request to credit OSM used to be prominent,
but that no longer seems to be the case, so I could understand how it
might be overlooked.

I sent an polite email on 24th Feb asking them to add the credit, but have
had no reply.

So perhaps the request for credit needs to be more prominent?

Meanwhile, perhaps others might also complain? The offending site is
https://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/cms/content/witney-library
As you can see there, their email address is
witney.libr...@oxfordshire.gov.uk .

ael



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[Talk-GB] Birdtrack using OSM maps

[Andy Mabbett]

[NB: Cross-posted]

Birdtrack:

   http://app.bto.org/birdtrack/portal.jsp

is an online citizen science website, operated by the British Trust
for Ornithology (BTO) on behalf of a partnership of the BTO, the RSPB,
BirdWatch Ireland, the Scottish Ornithologists' Club and the Welsh
Ornithological Society. It allows individuals or organisations to
submit the names and numbers of birds seen in a specified location in
Britain or Ireland.

I noticed recently that it was using OpenStreetMap data; at my
instigation, it now also prominently credits OSM.

If you can, do submit bird sightings and counts to BirdTrack.

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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[Talk-GB] UK Capter Community Interest Statement Form CIC36

[Brian Prangle]

Hi  everyone

Links to draft documents as promised (copying from the Word template to
Googledocs screws up the formatting and I don't have the patience to try
and sort it out)
Main Form 
Continuation Sheet


As ever, comments welcome

Regards

Brian
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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query help - roads within a ward

[Tom Chance]

Thanks Neil,

I think I'll just have to go with that solution and then delete the ways I
don't want.

Tom

web: http://tomchance.org
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On 23 April 2016 at 16:42, Neil Pilgrim 
wrote:

> I've had a play with this since I've been working with overpass turbo a
> bit recently; the best I've come up with so far is something like this:
>   http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/fPR (wy over-commented ;))
> As you'll see, this does include these roads, but does also include roads
> leaving the area.
> If you un-comment the relation, then that shows the boundary too, which I
> found useful for debugging.
> This may be able to be simplified/optimised, but I've gone with what
> works, and I switched to using a timeout/json as I'm used to that :)
> If the ways missing were part of the relation then I think
> way(r.A)[highway][name] should select them too, but that's not how the
> relation is composed.
>
> Hope that gives some other ideas, if nothing else :)
>
> --
> Neil
>
>
> On 23 April 2016 at 14:20, Tom Chance  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It has been a very long time since I last posted here!
>>
>> I'm trying to use the Overpass API to extract all the roads within the
>> bounds of a relation, in this case a local government ward. Can anyone spot
>> the problem in the data?
>>
>> Here's the example I'm working with:
>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/fPI
>>
>> The problem is that some roads aren't being downloaded with the query.
>>
>> If you follow that link and run the query, you'll see that the top
>> section of Belvedere Road, and all of Landsdowne Place, are excluded. There
>> are a few others like this on the edges of the area.
>>
>> I thought it might be because the way used by the boundary relation runs
>> down the same nodes as those roads. But just at the top of those roads, the
>> A-Road Church Road is downloaded despite being represented in the data in
>> the same way.
>>
>> I tried putting a 'kink' in the boundary way down at the other end of
>> Landsdowne Place where it meets Fox Hill so it 'encompasses' a node, but
>> that didn't help.
>>
>> I hope this all makes sense, and maybe somebody can help?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> web: http://tomchance.org
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/tom_chance
>> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TomChanceGP
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Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter Directors' Powers

[Richard Fairhurst]

Rob Nickerson wrote:
> The poll we did last year (?) suggested that the OpenStreetMap UK 
> community want to be involved in decision making. My suggestion is 
> that, if this is the culture we want to breed then the Articles should 
> reflect this.

I'm the chairman of a community-owned non-profit[1] limited company here in
Charlbury. We have recently changed our Articles (for entirely unavoidable
reasons). It was a glorious pain in the arse.

I would strongly recommend that the articles should be the most permissive
possible. Unless you have paid admin staff, this sort of thing is horrid to
sort out. If you've got to the stage of resorting to the articles to resolve
member/director conflict, then something went very wrong months ago and you
should have dealt with it then.

Besides, there are much more impactful things people could be doing to
advance the state of OSM in the UK than faffing around with companies
legislation, right?

cheers
Richard

[1] not deliberately, we just don't make any money



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Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter Directors' Powers

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On 23 April 2016 at 16:10, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
> To breed a culture of Member-led organisation (with Directors as figure
> heads) I suggest:
>
> Directors have all the power
> Members can direct the Directors to take/refrain from taking action via a
> ORDINARY Resolution
> Voting on Ordinary resolutions can be opened immediately (not 14 days), be
> online, and after a period of X days the vote is passed if 50% of those who
> voted (not 75% of ALL members in the case of the Written Special Resolution)
> accept the resolution.
>
> This sends a strong message that this is a member led organisation.

I agree that having a faster/easier mechanism for the members to reign
in the directors would be a good thing, and would force the directors
to consult the members and only proceed with their consent. However,
I'm not convinced that it would be a good idea (from a company law
point of view) to re-define "Ordinary Resolutions" to achieve this. As
an alternative solution, perhaps we should introduce the concept of a
more informal vote, say an "Online Pole", which members can use to
direct the directors. I would envisage something like this:

* Any five members may request that the directors run an Online Pole
on any matter concerning the way the Company is being run by the
directors.
* On receipt of such a request, a pole will be opened as soon as
practicable, and notice sent to all members.
* Once such a request has been received, the directors must refrain
from taking any action contrary to the pole motion until after the
pole has closed, unless this would result in them being unable to meet
a statutory or prior contractual obligation.
* An online pole closes at midnight UK time at the end of the 7th day
following the day that notice is sent to all members.
* The directors are bound by any motion in an online pole passed by a
simple majority of those voting, unless this would result in them
being unable to meet a statutory or prior contractual obligation,
until such time as the motion is set aside or superseded by a
subsequent pole or resolution.

Alternatively, we could redefine the section on written resolutions
along the lines of the above.

(With the current draft of the AoA, as far as I can see, there's
actually no way for the members to demand a written resolution in
order to exercise their S9 power to direct the directors. So currently
they'd have to call a General Meeting and propose the resolution there
if the directors weren't cooperative. That requires at least 14 days
notice of the meeting.)

Robert.

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