Re: [Talk-GB] Climbing new heights in “interesting” tagging

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On 14/11/2018 21:25, Andrew Hain wrote:

Road signs tagged natural=peak:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5890628170
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5890628171



I'd be gentle with them - it is their first and so far only edit :)

Best regards,

Andy

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[Talk-GB] Climbing new heights in “interesting” tagging

[Andrew Hain]

Road signs tagged natural=peak:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5890628170
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5890628171

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Node: ‪Give way sign‬ (‪5890628171‬) | 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Roads for the Renderer

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On 14/11/2018 21:03, Paul Berry wrote:
I've dropped DWG a note because the mapper in question has just 
responded and I need to hold my tongue rather than reply.




Thanks (email received, BTW).

One other thing - if anyone sees issues with "highway" changes in Leeds, 
Manchester or MK that don't match their recollection please add a 
changeset comment with specifics - "I believe that road X is a Y not a Z 
based on ABC".  I've commented on one of the Lancs ones already.


Best Regards,

Andy


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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Roads for the Renderer

[Paul Berry]

I've dropped DWG a note because the mapper in question has just responded
and I need to hold my tongue rather than reply.

Thanks for the tip.

Regards,
*Paul*

On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 20:57, ajt1...@gmail.com  wrote:

> On 14/11/2018 19:48, Paul Berry wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Not for the first time I'm having a run-in with a user regarding
> > arbitrary mapping of road classifications in Leeds. Latest changeset
> > comments: http://osm.org/changeset/64361310
>
> In this particular case I'd drop a mail to the DWG at
> d...@osmfoundation.org as they're not unfamiliar with this mapper.
>
> >
> > Does anyone have previous experience of nipping this kind of thing in
> > the bud?
>
> Lots of locals saying "no, that's wrong - X is not a Y, it is a Z, which
> is how it was mapped before" is a good place to start.  There are
> exceptions to "A road is primary" etc. in the UK (e.g. Oxford High
> Street among others), but they are fairly rare.
>
> >
> > I don't mind manually reverting changes at some point but I'd rather
> > not do that just to start/prolong what might be an edit war.
>
> Once there's a a concensus of local mappers it's not so much an edit war
> as one person who doesn't agree with everyone else.
>
> I'd also suggest a review by locals of their changes in MK too (and
> sadly for me I'm probably more familiar with the centre of MK than the
> centre of Leeds these days).
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
> (from the DWG, although I wasn't directly involved in issues involving
> this mapper previously)
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Roads for the Renderer

[ajt1...@gmail.com]

On 14/11/2018 19:48, Paul Berry wrote:

Hi,

Not for the first time I'm having a run-in with a user regarding 
arbitrary mapping of road classifications in Leeds. Latest changeset 
comments: http://osm.org/changeset/64361310


In this particular case I'd drop a mail to the DWG at 
d...@osmfoundation.org as they're not unfamiliar with this mapper.




Does anyone have previous experience of nipping this kind of thing in 
the bud?


Lots of locals saying "no, that's wrong - X is not a Y, it is a Z, which 
is how it was mapped before" is a good place to start.  There are 
exceptions to "A road is primary" etc. in the UK (e.g. Oxford High 
Street among others), but they are fairly rare.




I don't mind manually reverting changes at some point but I'd rather 
not do that just to start/prolong what might be an edit war.


Once there's a a concensus of local mappers it's not so much an edit war 
as one person who doesn't agree with everyone else.


I'd also suggest a review by locals of their changes in MK too (and 
sadly for me I'm probably more familiar with the centre of MK than the 
centre of Leeds these days).


Best Regards,

Andy

(from the DWG, although I wasn't directly involved in issues involving 
this mapper previously)



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Re: [Talk-GB] Spam GPS traces

[Dave F]

Looks fine to me

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/57.1752/-2.1234&layers=G

A cock-up in JOSM? Report it to them.

On 14/11/2018 17:09, Silent Spike wrote:

Hi folks,

I'm editing this area 
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/57.17591/-2.12320) in JOSM and 
the GPS data in the area contains some traces uploaded which look like 
spam (loads of horizontal lines which seem to form the shape of the 
river and other features).


I'm unsure of the extent of the data, but it looks as though they are 
all marked as recorded from 01/01/70 01:00 - 01:00.


Is there somewhere to report this so that they can be removed? I had a 
look around the wiki and found the data working group, but it's not 
clear whether they deal with GPS traces and I couldn't find anywhere 
that specifically discusses them except a figure caption on the page 
for vandalism.


Here's a screenshot from JOSM  since 
private traces aren't visible on the website



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[Talk-GB] Mapping Roads for the Renderer

[Paul Berry]

Hi,

Not for the first time I'm having a run-in with a user regarding arbitrary
mapping of road classifications in Leeds. Latest changeset comments:
http://osm.org/changeset/64361310

Does anyone have previous experience of nipping this kind of thing in the
bud?

I don't mind manually reverting changes at some point but I'd rather not do
that just to start/prolong what might be an edit war.

Regards,
*Paul*
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Re: [Talk-GB] Spam GPS traces

[Tom Hughes]

No that's the effect of us (correctly) anonymising the order of points
in private and public traces.

Potlatch has been fixed to handle it but JOSM hasn't (yet).

See previous talk thread for more.

Tom

On 14/11/2018 17:33, Paul Berry wrote:
It could be obfuscated Strava logs or something like that. Would explain 
the deliberate lack of timestamps and a high use of footpaths/towpaths 
(for those out running) rather than roads.


Regards,
/Paul/

On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 17:11, Silent Spike > wrote:


Hi folks,

I'm editing this area
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/57.17591/-2.12320) in JOSM
and the GPS data in the area contains some traces uploaded which
look like spam (loads of horizontal lines which seem to form the
shape of the river and other features).

I'm unsure of the extent of the data, but it looks as though they
are all marked as recorded from 01/01/70 01:00 - 01:00.

Is there somewhere to report this so that they can be removed? I had
a look around the wiki and found the data working group, but it's
not clear whether they deal with GPS traces and I couldn't find
anywhere that specifically discusses them except a figure caption on
the page for vandalism.

Here's a screenshot from JOSM
 since private traces aren't
visible on the website
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Re: [Talk-GB] Spam GPS traces

[Paul Berry]

It could be obfuscated Strava logs or something like that. Would explain
the deliberate lack of timestamps and a high use of footpaths/towpaths (for
those out running) rather than roads.

Regards,
*Paul*

On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 at 17:11, Silent Spike  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'm editing this area (
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/57.17591/-2.12320) in JOSM and the
> GPS data in the area contains some traces uploaded which look like spam
> (loads of horizontal lines which seem to form the shape of the river and
> other features).
>
> I'm unsure of the extent of the data, but it looks as though they are all
> marked as recorded from 01/01/70 01:00 - 01:00.
>
> Is there somewhere to report this so that they can be removed? I had a
> look around the wiki and found the data working group, but it's not clear
> whether they deal with GPS traces and I couldn't find anywhere that
> specifically discusses them except a figure caption on the page for
> vandalism.
>
> Here's a screenshot from JOSM  since
> private traces aren't visible on the website
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[Talk-GB] Spam GPS traces

[Silent Spike]

Hi folks,

I'm editing this area (
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/57.17591/-2.12320) in JOSM and the
GPS data in the area contains some traces uploaded which look like spam
(loads of horizontal lines which seem to form the shape of the river and
other features).

I'm unsure of the extent of the data, but it looks as though they are all
marked as recorded from 01/01/70 01:00 - 01:00.

Is there somewhere to report this so that they can be removed? I had a look
around the wiki and found the data working group, but it's not clear
whether they deal with GPS traces and I couldn't find anywhere that
specifically discusses them except a figure caption on the page for
vandalism.

Here's a screenshot from JOSM  since
private traces aren't visible on the website
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