Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

[Dave F via Talk-GB]

I believe there's a difference between discouraged & deprecated.

i agree path & footway are synonymous. When they're substituted for each 
other there's no difference in meaning.


The path proposal never produced a clear, unique definition.

AFAIA, neither tag had any impied permissions or condition attributes.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Approved_features/Path

DaveF

On 15/03/2019 00:09, Warin wrote:
Path and footway are the same .. to me. When I first joined OSM I was 
told they had different default permissions to allow UK people to do a 
short way of tagging those permissions, true or false I don't know. 
Seemed like a nasty way of doing it to me. In Australia .. the view 
was taken - country side = path, city = footway. Still nasty.


I disagree that path is being 'actively discouraged'. If it were then 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath would be marked 
'depreciated'.


On 15/03/19 00:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:

Hi

Nothing except the fact people walk along a way is implied by path or 
footway. The legality or ability to use it is defined with 
sub/adjective tags, such as width.


The path tag is actively being discouraged. 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Richard/diary/20333


OSM-Carto rendering doesn't distinguish it from 'footway' any longer.

Cheers
DaveF

On 12/03/2019 09:17, Devonshire wrote:
Both footway and path infer a way of a certain width suitable for 
people to use, neither infers any legal right of use as far as I am 
concerned.


If starting over path is a better word as people outside of OSM have 
clue what it is but otherwise I see them as interchangeable.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

[Warin]

Path and footway are the same .. to me. When I first joined OSM I was 
told they had different default permissions to allow UK people to do a 
short way of tagging those permissions, true or false I don't know. 
Seemed like a nasty way of doing it to me. In Australia .. the view was 
taken - country side = path, city = footway. Still nasty.


I disagree that path is being 'actively discouraged'. If it were then 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath would be marked 
'depreciated'.


On 15/03/19 00:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:

Hi

Nothing except the fact people walk along a way is implied by path or 
footway. The legality or ability to use it is defined with 
sub/adjective tags, such as width.


The path tag is actively being discouraged. 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Richard/diary/20333


OSM-Carto rendering doesn't distinguish it from 'footway' any longer.

Cheers
DaveF

On 12/03/2019 09:17, Devonshire wrote:
Both footway and path infer a way of a certain width suitable for 
people to use, neither infers any legal right of use as far as I am 
concerned.


If starting over path is a better word as people outside of OSM have 
clue what it is but otherwise I see them as interchangeable.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

[Andy Townsend]

On 14/03/2019 15:55, Martin Wynne wrote:

... . Do you mean wheel ruts, footprints?



I really, really wouldn't worry about it.  There are always edge cases - 
just pick whatever seems most appropriate to you.  You've been there, 
other people haven't been, and while a photo is useful it's only one 
view with the light in one place.  If you really want to add more 
detail, maybe a width tag would be a good idea?


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Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

[Devonshire]

Yes and yes. Just tag it as a footway then with the appropriate designation.

Kevin

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Martin Wynne wrote:
> On 14/03/2019 15:29, Devonshire wrote:
> > If there are parallel tracks visible (even if maybe historic) I would tag 
> > it as a track, if a single track is visible then tag it as a footway.
> 
> Thanks Kevin. Do you mean wheel ruts, footprints?
> 
> In the case of my photo, there was no evidence of any use at all, by 
> foot or wheel:
> 
>  http://85a.uk/track_query_960x648.jpg
> 
> Perhaps it is not a highway at all, despite being waymarked as a public 
> footpath?
> 
> cheers,
> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

[Martin Wynne]

On 14/03/2019 15:29, Devonshire wrote:

If there are parallel tracks visible (even if maybe historic) I would tag it as 
a track, if a single track is visible then tag it as a footway.


Thanks Kevin. Do you mean wheel ruts, footprints?

In the case of my photo, there was no evidence of any use at all, by 
foot or wheel:


 http://85a.uk/track_query_960x648.jpg

Perhaps it is not a highway at all, despite being waymarked as a public 
footpath?


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Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

[Devonshire]

If there are parallel tracks visible (even if maybe historic) I would tag it as 
a track, if a single track is visible then tag it as a footway.

Kevin

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019, at 3:19 PM, Martin Wynne wrote:
> > The path tag is actively being discouraged. 
> 
> Which makes it more necessary to have some direction on what constitutes 
> a "track". Is sufficient width for vehicles enough by itself to convert 
> a footpath to a track, or does there need to be some evidence of actual 
> vehicular use?
> 
> It's a common question in these parts. Here is another track? or path? 
> -- which is it? On the right is an old track which is legally a public 
> footpath. It's wide enough for vehicles, but all vehicular traffic has 
> long since transferred itself to crossing the field on the left instead:
> 
>  http://85a.uk/track_query_960x648.jpg
> 
> (not the same track as my previous photos)
> 
> cheers,
> 
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Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm

[Nick Allen]

Hi Joe,

Just in case you were wondering if Tom was the only one here.

Welcome, and I look forward to seeing progress.

I think Tom made a very good job of answering you, so I won't interfere and
confuse things.

Regards

Nick (Tallguy)

Nick & Daphne
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, 13:19 Joseph Leach,  wrote:

> attending the meetup sounds like a very good idea
>
>
> on the bus stop example, corporate data releases can have
> inaccuracies ... at this point i should note that i copied a drinking
> fountain  dataset to sixteen
> amenities  (and added metadata to one in
> bexleyheath), looking back, adding notes rather than features may have
> been better in relation to the need for surveys
>
>
> will now go and check the guys hospital one
>  during lunch
> --
> *From:* Tom Chance 
> *Sent:* 14 March 2019 12:12:47
> *To:* Joseph Leach
> *Cc:* talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> There's further useful guidance on the wiki, inc on the licensing point:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
>
> There's also a regular pub meet-up where you'll find people more up to
> date and knowledgeable than me! The next is on Thurs 28th:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London
>
> One thing they might have thoughts on is how to involve the wider OSM
> London community, for example in checking and cleaning data that can be
> imported, or manually adding data. I recall one import many years ago of
> TfL bus stop data, where we then had to go through removing lots of
> duplicates, and quite often we found that the TfL data was less accurate
> than existing OSM data! So it was worth checking each one with a survey.
>
> Tom
>
> m: 07866 447 075
> w: http://tomchance.org
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 15:16, Joseph Leach 
> wrote:
>
> thanks, this is encouraging
>
>
> in relation to charging stations this has already raised questions:
>
>
>
>- the data is sourced via various providers, so licensing will
>likely require several parties to be involved
>- the data includes an attribute relating to taxi/public use which could
>raise issues relating to access
>- the data contains likely duplicates of stations already on osm; looking
>at both tfl and osm data together
>
> 
>  likely
>duplicates can be seen for example along Southwark Street SE1, we can use
>gis to investigate stations based on proximity to those already mapped
>
>
> presumably these questions affect all kinds of open data release, so it
> will be good to get used to dealing with such matters
>
>
> joe
> --
> *From:* Tom Chance 
> *Sent:* 13 March 2019 08:48:51
> *To:* Joseph Leach
> *Cc:* talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> This would be great. Welcome to the list. I used to work at the GLA
> (2009-16) and am glad to see you proposing this.
>
> Others will have a better idea of the process, but I'd think a first step
> would be to create a wiki page and set out the datasets you have,
> indicating for each one any licensing conditions/issues, what fields you'd
> import and a check on the current data already existing.
>
> On the latter point, for example, there are already quite a few charging
> stations mapped (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/GVx) and we wouldn't want to
> duplicate those with your import. You can either go through them one by
> one, deleting duplicates from your dataset before importing (or merging
> data to add new fields), or stick the dataset up and invite people to
> manually check and copy across each charging station.
>
> Tom
>
>
> m: 07866 447 075
> w: http://tomchance.org
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 22:51, Joseph Leach 
> wrote:
>
> hello
>
>
> import guidelines
> 
>  state
> that community buy-in is a pre-requisite for osm bulk data import and as
> part of the gis team at london city hall i would like to seek community
> backing for open data releases
>
>
> as a trial run, i am manually adding eighteen newly founded drinking water
> amenities, but for larger datasets would like to investigate the
> feasibility of bulk imports, for example charging stations
>
>
> joe
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

[Martin Wynne]

The path tag is actively being discouraged. 


Which makes it more necessary to have some direction on what constitutes 
a "track". Is sufficient width for vehicles enough by itself to convert 
a footpath to a track, or does there need to be some evidence of actual 
vehicular use?


It's a common question in these parts. Here is another track? or path? 
-- which is it? On the right is an old track which is legally a public 
footpath. It's wide enough for vehicles, but all vehicular traffic has 
long since transferred itself to crossing the field on the left instead:


 http://85a.uk/track_query_960x648.jpg

(not the same track as my previous photos)

cheers,

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Re: [Talk-GB] Lake District NationalPark

[Andy Allan]

On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 01:54, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The larger something is the longer it takes of the renders to see it.

This is not true.

> And if it is a change the renders are slower to see that too.

This is not true either.

> Something new and small gets rendered fairly quickly.

This is also not true.

> Give it a few more weeks.

This is, however, reasonably accurate.

Thanks,
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Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

[Dave F via Talk-GB]

Hi

Nothing except the fact people walk along a way is implied by path or 
footway. The legality or ability to use it is defined with sub/adjective 
tags, such as width.


The path tag is actively being discouraged. 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Richard/diary/20333


OSM-Carto rendering doesn't distinguish it from 'footway' any longer.

Cheers
DaveF

On 12/03/2019 09:17, Devonshire wrote:

Both footway and path infer a way of a certain width suitable for people to 
use, neither infers any legal right of use as far as I am concerned.

If starting over path is a better word as people outside of OSM have clue what 
it is but otherwise I see them as interchangeable.

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Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm

[Joseph Leach]

attending the meetup sounds like a very good idea


on the bus stop example, corporate data releases can have inaccuracies ... at 
this point i should note that i copied a drinking 
fountain dataset to sixteen 
amenities (and added metadata to one in 
bexleyheath), looking back, adding notes rather than features may have been 
better in relation to the need for surveys


will now go and check the guys hospital 
one during lunch


From: Tom Chance 
Sent: 14 March 2019 12:12:47
To: Joseph Leach
Cc: talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm

Hi Joe,

There's further useful guidance on the wiki, inc on the licensing point: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

There's also a regular pub meet-up where you'll find people more up to date and 
knowledgeable than me! The next is on Thurs 28th: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London

One thing they might have thoughts on is how to involve the wider OSM London 
community, for example in checking and cleaning data that can be imported, or 
manually adding data. I recall one import many years ago of TfL bus stop data, 
where we then had to go through removing lots of duplicates, and quite often we 
found that the TfL data was less accurate than existing OSM data! So it was 
worth checking each one with a survey.

Tom

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w: http://tomchance.org


On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 15:16, Joseph Leach 
mailto:joseph.le...@london.gov.uk>> wrote:

thanks, this is encouraging


in relation to charging stations this has already raised questions:


  *   the data is sourced via various providers, so licensing will likely 
require several parties to be involved
  *   the data includes an attribute relating to taxi/public use which could 
raise issues relating to access
  *   the data contains likely duplicates of stations already on osm; looking 
at both tfl and osm data 
together
 likely duplicates can be seen for example along Southwark Street SE1, we can 
use gis to investigate stations based on proximity to those already mapped


presumably these questions affect all kinds of open data release, so it will be 
good to get used to dealing with such matters


joe


From: Tom Chance mailto:t...@acrewoods.net>>
Sent: 13 March 2019 08:48:51
To: Joseph Leach
Cc: talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm

Hi Joe,

This would be great. Welcome to the list. I used to work at the GLA (2009-16) 
and am glad to see you proposing this.

Others will have a better idea of the process, but I'd think a first step would 
be to create a wiki page and set out the datasets you have, indicating for each 
one any licensing conditions/issues, what fields you'd import and a check on 
the current data already existing.

On the latter point, for example, there are already quite a few charging 
stations mapped (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/GVx) and we wouldn't want to 
duplicate those with your import. You can either go through them one by one, 
deleting duplicates from your dataset before importing (or merging data to add 
new fields), or stick the dataset up and invite people to manually check and 
copy across each charging station.

Tom


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On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 22:51, Joseph Leach 
mailto:joseph.le...@london.gov.uk>> wrote:

hello


import 
guidelines
 state that community buy-in is a pre-requisite for osm bulk data import and as 
part of the gis team at london city hall i would like to seek community backing 
for open data releases


as a trial run, i am manually adding eighteen newly founded drinking water 
amenities, but for larger datasets would like to investigate the feasibility of 
bulk imports, for example charging stations


joe


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Re: [Talk-GB] London venues

[phil]

It could make reasonably priced trains hard to come by.

Phil (trigpoint)

On Thursday, 14 March 2019, Tony Shield wrote:
> FYI
> 
> Saturday 8 June is the Queens Birthday - Trooping the Colour occurs. 
> Don't know London well enough to know if this could be disruptive.
> 
> TonyS
> 
> On 13/03/2019 23:14, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > For the next OSM UK annual general meeting we thought we would try 
> > London as a possible location. Does anyone know of good (and cheap) 
> > venues that we can use? We have 100 members but would expect the 
> > number to actually attend would be in the region of 20-30 unless 
> > paired with a significant other event.
> >
> > Dates: We are thinking Saturday 8 June as a starting point but can 
> > move to other Saturdays if venue availability is better.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > *Rob*
> >
> > P.S. Plans for a Bristol event are still in the works. This has taken 
> > longer than we had hoped as it is a joint event. Hopefully some news 
> > on it shortly.
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Re: [Talk-GB] London venues

[Tony Shield]

FYI

Saturday 8 June is the Queens Birthday - Trooping the Colour occurs. 
Don't know London well enough to know if this could be disruptive.


TonyS

On 13/03/2019 23:14, Rob Nickerson wrote:

Hi all,

For the next OSM UK annual general meeting we thought we would try 
London as a possible location. Does anyone know of good (and cheap) 
venues that we can use? We have 100 members but would expect the 
number to actually attend would be in the region of 20-30 unless 
paired with a significant other event.


Dates: We are thinking Saturday 8 June as a starting point but can 
move to other Saturdays if venue availability is better.


Best regards,
*Rob*

P.S. Plans for a Bristol event are still in the works. This has taken 
longer than we had hoped as it is a joint event. Hopefully some news 
on it shortly.


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Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm

[Tom Chance]

Hi Joe,

There's further useful guidance on the wiki, inc on the licensing point:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

There's also a regular pub meet-up where you'll find people more up to date
and knowledgeable than me! The next is on Thurs 28th:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London

One thing they might have thoughts on is how to involve the wider OSM
London community, for example in checking and cleaning data that can be
imported, or manually adding data. I recall one import many years ago of
TfL bus stop data, where we then had to go through removing lots of
duplicates, and quite often we found that the TfL data was less accurate
than existing OSM data! So it was worth checking each one with a survey.

Tom

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On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 15:16, Joseph Leach 
wrote:

> thanks, this is encouraging
>
>
> in relation to charging stations this has already raised questions:
>
>
>
>- the data is sourced via various providers, so licensing will
>likely require several parties to be involved
>- the data includes an attribute relating to taxi/public use which could
>raise issues relating to access
>- the data contains likely duplicates of stations already on osm; looking
>at both tfl and osm data together
>
> 
>  likely
>duplicates can be seen for example along Southwark Street SE1, we can use
>gis to investigate stations based on proximity to those already mapped
>
>
> presumably these questions affect all kinds of open data release, so it
> will be good to get used to dealing with such matters
>
>
> joe
> --
> *From:* Tom Chance 
> *Sent:* 13 March 2019 08:48:51
> *To:* Joseph Leach
> *Cc:* talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> This would be great. Welcome to the list. I used to work at the GLA
> (2009-16) and am glad to see you proposing this.
>
> Others will have a better idea of the process, but I'd think a first step
> would be to create a wiki page and set out the datasets you have,
> indicating for each one any licensing conditions/issues, what fields you'd
> import and a check on the current data already existing.
>
> On the latter point, for example, there are already quite a few charging
> stations mapped (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/GVx) and we wouldn't want to
> duplicate those with your import. You can either go through them one by
> one, deleting duplicates from your dataset before importing (or merging
> data to add new fields), or stick the dataset up and invite people to
> manually check and copy across each charging station.
>
> Tom
>
>
> m: 07866 447 075
> w: http://tomchance.org
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 22:51, Joseph Leach 
> wrote:
>
> hello
>
>
> import guidelines
> 
>  state
> that community buy-in is a pre-requisite for osm bulk data import and as
> part of the gis team at london city hall i would like to seek community
> backing for open data releases
>
>
> as a trial run, i am manually adding eighteen newly founded drinking water
> amenities, but for larger datasets would like to investigate the
> feasibility of bulk imports, for example charging stations
>
>
> joe
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] London venues

[Jez Nicholson]

The ODI?

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 10:08 AM Tom Hughes  wrote:

> Geovation is on Goswell Road now, not far from the old address:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3527722639
>
> Tom
>
> On 14/03/2019 10:02, SK53 wrote:
> > I don't think Geovation are at 1 Seckford Street anymore (Future Cities
> > Catapult have taken over IIRC), which is a shame as Seckford Street is a
> > really nice venue. It' still available for events, but I suspect with
> > substantial costs. I don't think Geovation have moved very far away.
> >
> > I suspect Andy is right & tech spaces are the best bet. There may be a
> > few churches/community centres in Central London who regularly rent
> > rooms at (for London) modest prices: for instance, Westminster Friends
> > Meeting House, but availability for a Saturday is likely t constrained.
> > Many of these places now pretty much fund themselves by using heavily
> > promoting their facilities for commercial events (Friends House on
> > Euston Road charges around £500 for a room on a Saturday).
> >
> > Universities are another possibility but, even with a staff member as
> > advocate, societies I've been involved in have found the bureaucracy
> > involved far too unwieldy. Places like UCL which were relatively lax
> > have had to tighten up a lot after it was found an (honorary) academic
> > was hosting eugenics advocacy events.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 09:16, Jez Nicholson  > > wrote:
> >
> > Bury the hatchet with an old rival at the Geovation Centre?
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:29 PM Andy Mabbett
> > mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 23:14, Rob Nickerson
> > mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >  > For the next OSM UK annual general meeting we thought we
> > would try
> >  > London as a possible location. Does anyone know of good (and
> > cheap)
> >  > venues that we can use?
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> > Newspeak House:
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Re: [Talk-GB] London venues

[Tom Hughes]

Geovation is on Goswell Road now, not far from the old address:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3527722639

Tom

On 14/03/2019 10:02, SK53 wrote:
I don't think Geovation are at 1 Seckford Street anymore (Future Cities 
Catapult have taken over IIRC), which is a shame as Seckford Street is a 
really nice venue. It' still available for events, but I suspect with 
substantial costs. I don't think Geovation have moved very far away.


I suspect Andy is right & tech spaces are the best bet. There may be a 
few churches/community centres in Central London who regularly rent 
rooms at (for London) modest prices: for instance, Westminster Friends 
Meeting House, but availability for a Saturday is likely t constrained. 
Many of these places now pretty much fund themselves by using heavily 
promoting their facilities for commercial events (Friends House on 
Euston Road charges around £500 for a room on a Saturday).


Universities are another possibility but, even with a staff member as 
advocate, societies I've been involved in have found the bureaucracy 
involved far too unwieldy. Places like UCL which were relatively lax 
have had to tighten up a lot after it was found an (honorary) academic 
was hosting eugenics advocacy events.


Jerry





On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 09:16, Jez Nicholson > wrote:


Bury the hatchet with an old rival at the Geovation Centre?

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:29 PM Andy Mabbett
mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 23:14, Rob Nickerson
mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

 > For the next OSM UK annual general meeting we thought we
would try
 > London as a possible location. Does anyone know of good (and
cheap)
 > venues that we can use?

Newspeak House:

https://www.nwspk.com/

Let me know if you'd like an introduction to the founder./ manager.

Alternatively, you might ask one of the tech co.s in London (Google,
Microsoft) to sponsor-in-kind by prviding a room.

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Re: [Talk-GB] London venues

[SK53]

I don't think Geovation are at 1 Seckford Street anymore (Future Cities
Catapult have taken over IIRC), which is a shame as Seckford Street is a
really nice venue. It' still available for events, but I suspect with
substantial costs. I don't think Geovation have moved very far away.

I suspect Andy is right & tech spaces are the best bet. There may be a few
churches/community centres in Central London who regularly rent rooms at
(for London) modest prices: for instance, Westminster Friends Meeting
House, but availability for a Saturday is likely t constrained. Many of
these places now pretty much fund themselves by using heavily promoting
their facilities for commercial events (Friends House on Euston Road
charges around £500 for a room on a Saturday).

Universities are another possibility but, even with a staff member as
advocate, societies I've been involved in have found the bureaucracy
involved far too unwieldy. Places like UCL which were relatively lax have
had to tighten up a lot after it was found an (honorary) academic was
hosting eugenics advocacy events.

Jerry





On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 09:16, Jez Nicholson  wrote:

> Bury the hatchet with an old rival at the Geovation Centre?
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:29 PM Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 23:14, Rob Nickerson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > For the next OSM UK annual general meeting we thought we would try
>> > London as a possible location. Does anyone know of good (and cheap)
>> > venues that we can use?
>>
>> Newspeak House:
>>
>> https://www.nwspk.com/
>>
>> Let me know if you'd like an introduction to the founder./ manager.
>>
>> Alternatively, you might ask one of the tech co.s in London (Google,
>> Microsoft) to sponsor-in-kind by prviding a room.
>>
>> --
>> Andy Mabbett
>> @pigsonthewing
>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Talk-GB] London venues

[Spike]

The London Hackspace (in Wembley) has a classroom that seats 30 with 
ease >> https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Classroom


If interested I am a member and could host and facilitate the event.

My next-door neighbour works at Google - I could ask him for a contact 
there?


Spike

On 14/03/2019 09:15, Jez Nicholson wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:29 PM Andy Mabbett 
mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>> wrote:


On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 23:14, Rob Nickerson
mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> For the next OSM UK annual general meeting we thought we would try
> London as a possible location. Does anyone know of good (and cheap)
> venues that we can use?

Newspeak House:

https://www.nwspk.com/

Let me know if you'd like an introduction to the founder./ manager.

Alternatively, you might ask one of the tech co.s in London (Google,
Microsoft) to sponsor-in-kind by prviding a room.

-- 
Andy Mabbett

@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk



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Re: [Talk-GB] London venues

[Jez Nicholson]

Bury the hatchet with an old rival at the Geovation Centre?

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:29 PM Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 23:14, Rob Nickerson 
> wrote:
>
> > For the next OSM UK annual general meeting we thought we would try
> > London as a possible location. Does anyone know of good (and cheap)
> > venues that we can use?
>
> Newspeak House:
>
> https://www.nwspk.com/
>
> Let me know if you'd like an introduction to the founder./ manager.
>
> Alternatively, you might ask one of the tech co.s in London (Google,
> Microsoft) to sponsor-in-kind by prviding a room.
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Talk-GB] Lake District NationalPark

[Andy Townsend]

On 13/03/2019 21:28, Paul Berry wrote:
Relation looks OK to me but I can't see the name at any zoom level: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287917



Looks OK at 
https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=8=54.228=-2.569 
, so I guess OSM's renderer will catch up.


Best Regards,

Andy



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[Talk-GB] (re: Re: Road name contradictions in the UK)

[Dudley Ibbett]

Open before Friday


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Re: [Talk-GB] Road name contradictions in the UK
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