attending the meetup sounds like a very good idea

on the bus stop example, corporate data releases can have inaccuracies ... at 
this point i should note that i copied a drinking 
fountain<https://www.onelessbottle.org/fountainfund/> dataset to sixteen 
amenities<https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/GVJ> (and added metadata to one in 
bexleyheath), looking back, adding notes rather than features may have been 
better in relation to the need for surveys


will now go and check the guys hospital 
one<https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6334493761> during lunch

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From: Tom Chance <t...@acrewoods.net>
Sent: 14 March 2019 12:12:47
To: Joseph Leach
Cc: talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm

Hi Joe,

There's further useful guidance on the wiki, inc on the licensing point: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

There's also a regular pub meet-up where you'll find people more up to date and 
knowledgeable than me! The next is on Thurs 28th: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London

One thing they might have thoughts on is how to involve the wider OSM London 
community, for example in checking and cleaning data that can be imported, or 
manually adding data. I recall one import many years ago of TfL bus stop data, 
where we then had to go through removing lots of duplicates, and quite often we 
found that the TfL data was less accurate than existing OSM data! So it was 
worth checking each one with a survey.

Tom

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On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 15:16, Joseph Leach 
<joseph.le...@london.gov.uk<mailto:joseph.le...@london.gov.uk>> wrote:

thanks, this is encouraging


in relation to charging stations this has already raised questions:


  *   the data is sourced via various providers, so licensing will likely 
require several parties to be involved
  *   the data includes an attribute relating to taxi/public use which could 
raise issues relating to access
  *   the data contains likely duplicates of stations already on osm; looking 
at both tfl and osm data 
together<http://geojson.io/#id=gist:joelondon/a107aba6886542708194c43d1921a245&map=10/51.5685/-0.1394>
 likely duplicates can be seen for example along Southwark Street SE1, we can 
use gis to investigate stations based on proximity to those already mapped


presumably these questions affect all kinds of open data release, so it will be 
good to get used to dealing with such matters


joe

________________________________
From: Tom Chance <t...@acrewoods.net<mailto:t...@acrewoods.net>>
Sent: 13 March 2019 08:48:51
To: Joseph Leach
Cc: talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm

Hi Joe,

This would be great. Welcome to the list. I used to work at the GLA (2009-16) 
and am glad to see you proposing this.

Others will have a better idea of the process, but I'd think a first step would 
be to create a wiki page and set out the datasets you have, indicating for each 
one any licensing conditions/issues, what fields you'd import and a check on 
the current data already existing.

On the latter point, for example, there are already quite a few charging 
stations mapped (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/GVx) and we wouldn't want to 
duplicate those with your import. You can either go through them one by one, 
deleting duplicates from your dataset before importing (or merging data to add 
new fields), or stick the dataset up and invite people to manually check and 
copy across each charging station.

Tom


m: 07866 447 075
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On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 22:51, Joseph Leach 
<joseph.le...@london.gov.uk<mailto:joseph.le...@london.gov.uk>> wrote:

hello


import 
guidelines<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_2_-_Community_Buy-in>
 state that community buy-in is a pre-requisite for osm bulk data import and as 
part of the gis team at london city hall i would like to seek community backing 
for open data releases


as a trial run, i am manually adding eighteen newly founded drinking water 
amenities, but for larger datasets would like to investigate the feasibility of 
bulk imports, for example charging stations


joe


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