Hi Joe,

Just in case you were wondering if Tom was the only one here.

Welcome, and I look forward to seeing progress.

I think Tom made a very good job of answering you, so I won't interfere and
confuse things.

Regards

Nick (Tallguy)

Nick & Daphne
my phone is responsible for any spelling mistakes!

On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, 13:19 Joseph Leach, <joseph.le...@london.gov.uk> wrote:

> attending the meetup sounds like a very good idea
>
>
> on the bus stop example, corporate data releases can have
> inaccuracies ... at this point i should note that i copied a drinking
> fountain <https://www.onelessbottle.org/fountainfund/> dataset to sixteen
> amenities <https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/GVJ> (and added metadata to one in
> bexleyheath), looking back, adding notes rather than features may have
> been better in relation to the need for surveys
>
>
> will now go and check the guys hospital one
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6334493761> during lunch
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Tom Chance <t...@acrewoods.net>
> *Sent:* 14 March 2019 12:12:47
> *To:* Joseph Leach
> *Cc:* talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> There's further useful guidance on the wiki, inc on the licensing point:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
>
> There's also a regular pub meet-up where you'll find people more up to
> date and knowledgeable than me! The next is on Thurs 28th:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London
>
> One thing they might have thoughts on is how to involve the wider OSM
> London community, for example in checking and cleaning data that can be
> imported, or manually adding data. I recall one import many years ago of
> TfL bus stop data, where we then had to go through removing lots of
> duplicates, and quite often we found that the TfL data was less accurate
> than existing OSM data! So it was worth checking each one with a survey.
>
> Tom
>
> m: 07866 447 075
> w: http://tomchance.org
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 15:16, Joseph Leach <joseph.le...@london.gov.uk>
> wrote:
>
> thanks, this is encouraging
>
>
> in relation to charging stations this has already raised questions:
>
>
>
>    - the data is sourced via various providers, so licensing will
>    likely require several parties to be involved
>    - the data includes an attribute relating to taxi/public use which could
>    raise issues relating to access
>    - the data contains likely duplicates of stations already on osm; looking
>    at both tfl and osm data together
>    
> <http://geojson.io/#id=gist:joelondon/a107aba6886542708194c43d1921a245&map=10/51.5685/-0.1394>
>  likely
>    duplicates can be seen for example along Southwark Street SE1, we can use
>    gis to investigate stations based on proximity to those already mapped
>
>
> presumably these questions affect all kinds of open data release, so it
> will be good to get used to dealing with such matters
>
>
> joe
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Tom Chance <t...@acrewoods.net>
> *Sent:* 13 March 2019 08:48:51
> *To:* Joseph Leach
> *Cc:* talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> This would be great. Welcome to the list. I used to work at the GLA
> (2009-16) and am glad to see you proposing this.
>
> Others will have a better idea of the process, but I'd think a first step
> would be to create a wiki page and set out the datasets you have,
> indicating for each one any licensing conditions/issues, what fields you'd
> import and a check on the current data already existing.
>
> On the latter point, for example, there are already quite a few charging
> stations mapped (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/GVx) and we wouldn't want to
> duplicate those with your import. You can either go through them one by
> one, deleting duplicates from your dataset before importing (or merging
> data to add new fields), or stick the dataset up and invite people to
> manually check and copy across each charging station.
>
> Tom
>
>
> m: 07866 447 075
> w: http://tomchance.org
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 22:51, Joseph Leach <joseph.le...@london.gov.uk>
> wrote:
>
> hello
>
>
> import guidelines
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_2_-_Community_Buy-in>
>  state
> that community buy-in is a pre-requisite for osm bulk data import and as
> part of the gis team at london city hall i would like to seek community
> backing for open data releases
>
>
> as a trial run, i am manually adding eighteen newly founded drinking water
> amenities, but for larger datasets would like to investigate the
> feasibility of bulk imports, for example charging stations
>
>
> joe
>
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