Hi Joe, Just in case you were wondering if Tom was the only one here.
Welcome, and I look forward to seeing progress. I think Tom made a very good job of answering you, so I won't interfere and confuse things. Regards Nick (Tallguy) Nick & Daphne my phone is responsible for any spelling mistakes! On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, 13:19 Joseph Leach, <joseph.le...@london.gov.uk> wrote: > attending the meetup sounds like a very good idea > > > on the bus stop example, corporate data releases can have > inaccuracies ... at this point i should note that i copied a drinking > fountain <https://www.onelessbottle.org/fountainfund/> dataset to sixteen > amenities <https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/GVJ> (and added metadata to one in > bexleyheath), looking back, adding notes rather than features may have > been better in relation to the need for surveys > > > will now go and check the guys hospital one > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6334493761> during lunch > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tom Chance <t...@acrewoods.net> > *Sent:* 14 March 2019 12:12:47 > *To:* Joseph Leach > *Cc:* talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm > > Hi Joe, > > There's further useful guidance on the wiki, inc on the licensing point: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines > > There's also a regular pub meet-up where you'll find people more up to > date and knowledgeable than me! The next is on Thurs 28th: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London > > One thing they might have thoughts on is how to involve the wider OSM > London community, for example in checking and cleaning data that can be > imported, or manually adding data. I recall one import many years ago of > TfL bus stop data, where we then had to go through removing lots of > duplicates, and quite often we found that the TfL data was less accurate > than existing OSM data! So it was worth checking each one with a survey. > > Tom > > m: 07866 447 075 > w: http://tomchance.org > > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 15:16, Joseph Leach <joseph.le...@london.gov.uk> > wrote: > > thanks, this is encouraging > > > in relation to charging stations this has already raised questions: > > > > - the data is sourced via various providers, so licensing will > likely require several parties to be involved > - the data includes an attribute relating to taxi/public use which could > raise issues relating to access > - the data contains likely duplicates of stations already on osm; looking > at both tfl and osm data together > > <http://geojson.io/#id=gist:joelondon/a107aba6886542708194c43d1921a245&map=10/51.5685/-0.1394> > likely > duplicates can be seen for example along Southwark Street SE1, we can use > gis to investigate stations based on proximity to those already mapped > > > presumably these questions affect all kinds of open data release, so it > will be good to get used to dealing with such matters > > > joe > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tom Chance <t...@acrewoods.net> > *Sent:* 13 March 2019 08:48:51 > *To:* Joseph Leach > *Cc:* talk-gb-london@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-london] bulk importing london open data to osm > > Hi Joe, > > This would be great. Welcome to the list. I used to work at the GLA > (2009-16) and am glad to see you proposing this. > > Others will have a better idea of the process, but I'd think a first step > would be to create a wiki page and set out the datasets you have, > indicating for each one any licensing conditions/issues, what fields you'd > import and a check on the current data already existing. > > On the latter point, for example, there are already quite a few charging > stations mapped (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/GVx) and we wouldn't want to > duplicate those with your import. You can either go through them one by > one, deleting duplicates from your dataset before importing (or merging > data to add new fields), or stick the dataset up and invite people to > manually check and copy across each charging station. > > Tom > > > m: 07866 447 075 > w: http://tomchance.org > > > On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 22:51, Joseph Leach <joseph.le...@london.gov.uk> > wrote: > > hello > > > import guidelines > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_2_-_Community_Buy-in> > state > that community buy-in is a pre-requisite for osm bulk data import and as > part of the gis team at london city hall i would like to seek community > backing for open data releases > > > as a trial run, i am manually adding eighteen newly founded drinking water > amenities, but for larger datasets would like to investigate the > feasibility of bulk imports, for example charging stations > > > joe > > > GREATER LONDON AUTHORITY NOTICE: > The information in this email may contain confidential or privileged > materials. 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