Re: [Talk-GB] too many universities in Cambridge
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 23/05/15 16:36, David Earl wrote: As I said, I think the upward compatible change for this is to use a tag with the unique ID of whatever operator While not popular, the addition of identifiers IS now gaining traction, especially where the underlying data relates to imports from other places. +1 I am in the camp that strongly supports retaining primary key references on the OSM side. It works great, and the occasional problem (for example manual edits deleting the ref) appear to be exactly that: occasional. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:08 AM, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: There is really no need to import this type of data in the UK where the mapping culture is to walk/cycle and just go and have a looksee. Well that applies to UK culture in general, choosing to walk is not viewed with suspicion. Imho notes offer an easy to see/navigate to and are visible in osmand. Phil (trigpoint ) The import proposal that triggered the above discussion is now complete. For the UK stations I added map notes for each of the six locations, but none of those were followed up on by UK mappers. The job was finished by my ringing up the reception desk at each of the locations, and asking where the tool stand is. Oddly, nobody thought I was nutters. In contrast the USA import was done by importing the questionable data and adding a map note. That backlog of notes is rapidly dwindling. Most were spot on, some were across the street, almost all were within visual distance. One station was eventually declared MIA and deleted from both OSM and the vendor database. 139 unique users made edits: Adam_Piszczek 1 Agaric 1 AlgunCesar 1 BMEEOFTAI04_BZ2B48 1 Bkrumenauer 1 BrunoRemy 1 CaSalazarR 1 ChaoticMind 2 Chrysopras 1 Claudius Henrichs 2 Der Harry 1 Dero Bike Racks 7 --- vendor -- Didger85 1 Donabel 1 FiroK 1 Fringillus 1 GBGrant 2 Galifardeu 1 Geert De Deckere 1 GeoGladbecker 1 GeoLaci 1 Gianluca Maggiori 1 Graham Jones 2 Gunnar Gissel 1 Irmaodassa 1 JEJackman 11 James Derrick 1 Janjko 1 JasonWoof 2 Jeff McAdams 1 Jesper Henriksen 1 Johancondor 1 Junaid Ahmed 2 Luuuddooo 1 Lübeck 1 M!dgard 1 MKnight 1 Mark McCarhy 1 Michael Bey 1 MikeN 1 Minh Nguyen 1 Nate_Wessel 2 Nessmuk 2 Nick Bolten 1 Ollie 1 Omnific 1 P JDB 1 Paul Johnson 3 Peter Beard 1 Peter Dobratz 3 Pourya Eini 1 RationalTangle 2 RicoElectrico 3 RoadGeek_MD99 1 Roshan shrestha 1 Ryan Lash 1 SK53 1 Severin Kann 10 Sto-Sto 1 Sung Choi 1 Tika Rijal 1 Timothy Smith 1 ToeBee 2 Tumulucc 1 Walter Schlögl 1 Willis92 1 Yevgeny Gromov 1 Yiyi (itwikipedia) 1 Your Village Maps 1 aharvey 2 airdace 1 alesangiorgio 1 andis_project 2 andy51edge 2 bakasana 1 bbmiller 1 brbbl 1 briancartier 1 c-j-b 1 c1pr1an 1 camilacortess9 1 catoblepa 1 chachafish 4 chrismismis 1 dcguj 1 devinpp 1 dhetteix 1 digobike 1 dkunce 1 dolphinling 3 dydychan 1 elyk 1 erjiang 3 evills246 1 facucaldo 1 geigerni 1 geoffengland 1 gnuckx 1 gualtero 1 hadry 2 highflyer74 1 hobbesvsboyle 3 innosaint 2 johanespeter9 1 juan m arroyo 1 jwass 1 kamal_1jr 1 kcmapguy 1 kocio 2 kre3d 2 lasslo 1 luschi 3 marek kleciak 1 marsupilud 1 mccord42 1 midnightcomm 1 mikecc 2 mlayman09 1 nestor delgado 1 neuhausr 2 nunatakGIS 1 panarchos 1 paulo106 1 pnorman 1 rolvtuvom 4 rowisp 1 sa62039 1 sankeytm 3 shamai 1 sq7obj 1 svance92 1 szali 1 szydzio 1 tbsprs 1 treestryder 3 tyr_asd 1 wizz 1 Сергій Дубик 1 I've invited tool stand vendors I know of to contribute additional locations directly to OSM. This is a feature that if you need it, you really want to find the closest one, because almost by definition your bike is not working well. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 4:14 AM, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I think I preferred the highway_authority_ref only to differentiate it from a reference applied by any other body. You could have more than one official_ref depending on the referencing body. Why not ref:highway_authority To keep the tags just a little bit organized? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Paul Sladen o...@paul.sladen.org wrote: My hope was that the owners of the mechanic retaggering bots involved would carefully reflect upon this advice and instead try to betterunderstand the subject matter in greater detail beforehand. Nothing in the UK was mechanically retagged. While there was not global concordance on all issues relating waterway and land tagging, there was substantial concordance, and quite a few participants, including a number of seamark mappers. In other words, several steps forward, more to go. Unlike in the xkcd cartoon, the 14 old standards don't have to keep existing. The number of different styles can be reduced if not to one, then to less than many. In the case of holding tank tagging at least what's left is semantically clear: previously four distinct features were routinely mapped to indistinguishable tags. I don't want to pull a boat or motorhome up to a dog waste trash bin, and nor does anyone else. Waiting for the grand unified scheme could be an xkcd cartoon of its own. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:35 AM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 12/05/2015 17:28, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Why not ref:highway_authority To keep the tags just a little bit organized? https://xkcd.com/927/ (sorry) Yeah, but unlike the real world depicted in the cartoon, OSM *can* mechanically retag. That actually worked recently: some 14 methods of tagging toilet dump stations collapsed down to three... and it was done with minimal disruption. It's three only because of retagging reluctance specific to the UK: a few dozen land and waterway nodes. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
You can see the issue of how to tag this has come up several times: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station#See_Also With no consensus tagging diverged many ways. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
tag - disposal_point
Values
pump_out:grey (No sewage)
pump_out:black(Contains Sewage)
pump_out:bilge(May contain oil)
pump_out:restricted (note advise restrictions)
dump:black(may have restrictions?)
chemical:contained(cartridge style disposal)
chemical:clean_down('wet' disposal with clean down facility)
chemical:gel_only (may be other restrictions depending on country?)
Access
clients_only (marina or campsite or leisure facility clients)
public_free (council provided facility?)
public_fee:rates (see debate in Oz about lack of public
facilities even if they paid for access)
LOCATION should show if it's private access to boats or other vehicles
Payment methods or private access also expand the data.
Ok, so if understand, in that proposal a UK canal waterway=elsan_point
might be re-tagged like:
*disposal_point=yes*
*chemical:contained=yeschemical:clean_down=yes*
*chemical:gel_only=no*
*chemical:restrictions=uses a septic field, and only biodegradable tank
chemicals are allowed.*
*access=*public_fee:rates
*boat=yes*
*motorhome=no*
Perhaps next to a:
*water_point=yes*
*access=public_free*
*boat=yes*
*motorhome=no*
Where the boat=yes motorhome=no tag could exist on an enclosing way such as
a Marina.
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I see the issue as centered on complexity, mapper behavior, and
rendering/searching behavior.
The system depends on two types of access : legal permission and physical
access. A marine
site may only be accessible to boat, or free and public but only welcome
marine users. That subtlety will likely
be lost in rendering or gps searching, leading people to an inappropriate
facility. The reality is that
top level tags are what controls most searching and rendering.
The tags boat=yes and motorhome=no are not universally processed by
rendering. Thus most
of the time the feature will show up undifferentiated.
*OpenSeaMap* has chosen to use it's own tags in part to avoid motorhome
features showing up
on Mariner's map. This allows ready and reliable creation of a mariner's
map (or in this case a UK
waterway map). The cost of a new high level tag seems small compared to
the benefits. The toilet
stations I map will be with something simpler.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Labelling a greasy spoon caff
Greasy spoon truck stops (or any mobile food truck on a schedule) could be: transient:amenity=restaurant cuisine=greasy_spoon;british operating_hours=Sa 16:00-20:00 name=Greasy Spooning Cafe website=http://foodtrucksrus.net/o=92 So it won't render confusingly with permanently located features. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=dump Has a lot lower usage than disposal, but *I* don't like the use of 'sanitary' ... that is more of a problem than the dump/disposal question! The tagging numbers are skewed because I tediously edited every odd variant I could find, mostly outside of Europe. Those included: name=RV Dump (with other tags) name=RV Dump Station (with no other tags) amenity=dump_station amenity=dump-station amenity=dumpstation amenity=dump amenity=RV Dump amenity=fuel;dump station;convenience highway=service + service=dumpstation shop=fuel;dump station;convenience shop=fuel;services=dump station;mini-mart;propane leisure=caravan_site + note=Motorhome dump station recycling=dump-station recycling=waste_basket + note=RV Dump Station recycling=waste_basket + waste=excrement. amenity=waste_disposal + waste=excrement (which variously meant pump-out, dog_bin, and dump station). tourism=caravan_site + note=Dumping place tourism=information + description=RV dump man_made=wastewater_plant + tag=Motorhome dumping station amenity=dump (mostly refers to garbage dumps, but a few were RV holding tank emptying spots). The term toilets:disposal was something I coined a few years back for walk-up toilets.: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets Some 15 odd uses of the term *elsan_point* are present: and none outside of the UK. -- Apparently some people care a lot what the name of the tag is. I am not among those people. I care that the feature has rational tagging, as to attract enough interested from the osm-carto maintainers to actually render it: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1466 This feature is glaringly missing from campground and canal maps rendered with OSM data. Monolithic tagging matching the desire of richardwest would be fine with me: *amenity=elsan_point* *amenity=pump-out* *amenity=rv_dump_station* *waterway=elsan_point* *waterway=pump-out* Plus the same for toilets drinking_water, and fuel (in particular waterway=fuel). In that scheme, *waterway=elsan_point* + *amenity=elsan_point* is a sensible combination. Access tags are need to cover the case of facilities available only to overnight guests, since that case is so common. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
To summarize: Nobody likes to talk about waste, so euphemisms abound. Past tagging has been all over the map, and the same tags were used in Europe for dog_waste bins as well as motorhome dump points. - The basic styles of holding tank station seem to be: - elsan point (walk up dumping basin)(also called a CDP) - round drain (gravity drain hose : 3 in diameter in the USA) - pump-out (mechanical suction). Accepting: - Gray water (usually) - Bilge water (rarely) - Black water (usually) - Black water but not gray water (occasionally) Prohibiting: - Certain tank chemicals Offering at the same location: - Rinse water which may not be potable. - Drinking water (amenity=water_point). - Drinking water (amenity=drinking_water). - Walk up toilets. Access Rules: - From water or land, or in a few cases both. - Free, paid in advance, pay at the pump with coins or cards, or pay at the office. - Part of regional network or not (card key, payment card). - Accessible to overnight guests only, or to everyone. Position may be: - Located on a dock next to waterway=fuel (often) - Located on a separate dock. - Located on land, even it only serves marine users. - Located at each camping pitch. - Located at a central location, with varying degrees of accessibility by large boats or motorhomes (often). - Unknown (many RV and Marina sites list dump services on their websites, but the exact location does not appear on the brochure or map)(often). - Associated with a walk up toilet, or not. Rendered by: - Opensea map, and nothing else prominent. - Marine fuel, and amenity=water_point are very similar. - A chemical toilet is something completely different in the USA. Aporta potty is a walk up toilet in the USA. German facilities sport about a dozen designs of coin pay stations incorporating a CDP and round drain into one unit, and sometimes a pumpout, water point, and rinse hose for good measure. - So how do we get to the point where these facilities can be rendered, so a campground map looks proper when brought up on a smartphone? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Bryce Nesbitt wrote: What can we assume the UK tag waterway=elsan_point means? One or more of: 1) Walk up toilet 2) Cassette dump for boats 3) Cassette dump for motorhomes 4) Pump out Very firmly and unambiguously 2. I propose making the assumption the present elsan_point tag means* #3*, Could I make the evidently-not-bleeding-obvious-enough observation that the waterway= bit is quite a good hint that it's not meant for motorhomes. Yes, I think waterway is an excellent hint. Thus: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/waterway%3Dsanitary_dump_station *waterway=elsan_point *would become *waterway=sanitary_dump_station*, nothing more. Motorhomes need not apply. --- Note this sanitary_dump_station scheme replaced over a dozen other tagging styles worldwide. It was a real mess: fragmented and tagged for the rendering such as to be absolutely unprocessable in any rational way. There were advocates for using UK term Elsan for the cleanup. Others objected to the use of a trade name. Thus *sanitary_dump_station* as an attempt at a generic term with a good chance of understanding when translated into multiple languages, and a good match to the customary terms used locally. The scheme's wiki page is now in French, German, English and Russian. Elsan point is not a term with recognition outside the UK. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
Here are some totally typical prior taggings of this feature (in land vehicle form): http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3075600244 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/369645049 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Is there any intrinsic difference between one for boats and one for motorhomes? If they are actually pretty much the same thing, maybe the difference would better be expressed by *access=customers* or purely *geometric*/geographic properties Yes, there are intrinsic differences for marine and land facilities. And *access=customers* has a specific different definition here, as it is common for a pump-out or dump station to be restricted only to paying overnight guests at the facility (e.g. you can't even pay to use it unless you're staying overnight). Purely *geometric* properties don't work, as fuel station tagging shows. Proximity to the water's edge or a marina polygon does not itself disambiguate the feature type. The new tagging style covers a lot of bases: maybe not all, but many more than any of the dozen or so informal methods. The terms were also chosen carefully for worldwide use. Chemical Dump Point or CDP was found in the UK, and Dump station is well recognized in the USA Australia and NZ. Sanitary is a pretty icky word, but not nearly as rude as excrement, for the USA. Elsan was objected to as a brand name not a generic type. Of the 200 or so stations I found in searching note, description, and recycling tags, most used some form of the word dump for land station and pump for marine pumpouts. A small group of nodes are tagged Elsan along British canals. The term human effluent did not come up in that discussion, but would also be suitable (though effluent is likely never taught in the public schools in the USA) The choice of the exact wording of the tag is not as important as seeking common tagging for a common feature. Where would we be if every country used it's own word for highway. Marine and land facilities are different, but there's no on the ground difference between a comfort station and a toilet. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com wrote: On 21/04/2015 18:08, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Are what's presently tagged elsan_point /both/ walk up toilets /and/ CDP chemical holding tank emptying points? And do they welcome waste originating from Elsan-based motorhomes as well as canal boats? This is going to vary from point to point. On-the-ground surveys will be required. What can we assume the UK tag waterway=elsan_point means? One or more of: 1) Walk up toilet 2) Cassette dump for boats 3) Cassette dump for motorhomes 4) Pump out I propose making the assumption the present elsan_point tag means* #3*, then let local mappers adjust the tags as needed. The tag scheme can handle all the above: 1) Walk up toilet (amenity=toilet) 2) Cassette dump for boats (waterway=sanitary_dump_station) 3) Cassette dump for motorhomes (amenity=sanitary_dump_station) 4) Pump out (sanitary_dump_station:pump-out=yes) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] elsan_points
User richardwest and a few others added a few Elsan Points along Canals in the UK: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2591597652/ https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2755755468/ https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2891630633/ I've checked with Richard about this, to make sure the current tagging can cover the use case. It can. I'm seeking additional local input on this tagging. Similar facilities outside the UK have been retagged to the sanitary_dump_station scheme. Any UK edit will be node-by-node, not mechanical. No Canal River Trust google map will be copied, though it's a shame the CRT data is not available to OpenStreetMap. My goal with the edits are, over time, to prepare this feature for acceptance in rendering. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com wrote: On 21/04/2015 08:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I'm seeking additional local input on this tagging. Elsan is simply a trade name for a chemical toilet (likewise Portapotti). So your cassette tagging covers these use cases. In the UK is the Elsan trade name used for both the mobile toilet and the fixed spot to empty it? It appears the intent of the elsan_point tag in the UK was the later ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tELRMqFZKM ). --- Note the comparable USA term porta-potty refers to a portable chemical toilet with no separate cassette (usually dragged by trailer to events, construction activity, or in camping areas without sewer access). On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Paul Sladen o...@paul.sladen.org wrote: Most canal-side/marina-side are accessed-protected using a 'BWB' key; There also seems to be a card: https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/boating/navigating-the-waterways/services-for-boats/how-to-buy-your-pump-out-card I'm not sure which OSM mapped elsan_points are part of the CRT key system, but the network tag was designed for use by someone who does. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] elsan_points
Malcome Herring wrote:
Waterside facilities provided by CRT (previously known as British
Waterways Board - BWB) are accessed by use of a key issued to all waterway
license holders. Chemical toilet emptying points are usually within these
facilities. Pump-out stations, on the other hand, are necessarily outside
usage is controlled by pre-paid charge cards which activate the pump.
Are what's presently tagged elsan_point *both* walk up toilets *and* CDP
chemical holding tank emptying points?
And do they welcome waste originating from Elsan-based motorhomes as well
as canal boats?
In tagging form does this represent a typical station?
amenity=toilets
network=CRT
access=key
toilets:disposal={flush/chemical/pitlatrine}
+
waterway=sanitary_dump_station
sanitary_dump_station:basin=yes
network=CRT
access=key
Also note that based on feedback from a German tagger, the cassette tag
name changed to basin.
Marine pumpouts of course are separate:
waterway=sanitary_dump_station
payment:crt_prepaid:yes
payment:cash=no
sanitary_dump_station:pump-out=yes
sanitary_dump_station:rinse_water=yes
seamark:small_craft_facility:category = water;pump-out
note=Self service prohibited, see Marina attendant
Note that *porta-potty *is also a trade name, which has also become a
generic like Hoover, Xerox and Crescent Wrench. In the USA it refers only
to the walk up toilets.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station
To be clear, I encourage people to get involved in all open proposals, not just the one: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Proposed_features_%22Voting%22 The voting process helps to refine tagging proposals: they often get better during the process. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Wählen / Voting - Sanitary Dump Station
Please consider participating in the wiki voting for: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station These sites have various names including dump station, dump point, caravan dump station, sanitary station, Elsan disposal point (UK), pumpout, and chemical dump point (CDP). ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK
This import is now complete. For the UK the nodes were omitted: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/329258 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK
I'm happy to import *JUST the six notes* if that's preferred, without any node (the node and note are linked in other countries). That's an extra step for the local mapper however. I have actually mapped one of these but have refrained from adding information about the manufacturer for fear that my ground survey will be obliterated by this import. There's no reason to fear. For @SK53 you can safely add brand : this is not an obliterating type of import, it's a conflation. No ground survey data is at risk: quite the contrary ground survey is needed and wanted. For example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/324309 http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/324440 This import is exactly analogous to checking an electronic list of open Tesco locations against those mapped in OSM, except here the list is OdBL licenced. Beyond that, I've reached out to each of the (known to me) vendors of this type of station, offering up OSM as a place to record tool stand locations. I have no commercial relationship with any of them. http://guides.obviously.com/Public-Bicycle-Work-and-Repair-Stands-2/1925 --- So: an import of NOTES instead, with no underlying node data? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:26 PM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 05/03/2015 20:39, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I'm happy to import *JUST the six notes* if that's preferred, without any node Could you have a go at locating these notes a bit better than the previous reverted import (e.g. put the note for the one that says that is in the Swan Hotel in Stafford within the Swan Hotel in Stafford, and not a couple of buildings away, and add the note for the one that already exists in the hospital down south where the node already exists, with suggested extra tags)? With only six of them, the hand curation will be high, so yes. The duplicate was missed before, as the existing node tags were more of a hint than anything definitive. But now it's strongly suspected to be the same feature, so will be conflated rather than duplicated. If you update that node to the current convention, that matching would even be automatic https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
