Re: [Talk-GB] Question regarding mapping inaccuracies.

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew M. Bishop
Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk writes:

 I'm wondering if someone will be able to implement an efficient
 version of the snooker ball visualisation on 
 http://www.cyclestreets.net/blog/2009/03/26/thats-a-really-odd-route/

 As a quick hack I have generated such a map for the UK.

 http://www.gedanken.org.uk/mapping/osm-junctions/junctions.html

 The junction data comes from Routino[1] and as such not all highway
 junctions are included (only highways that are routable).  The
 rendering is performed client-side so is rather slow (probably my
 Javascript isn't optimum).  The server will only allow downloading a
 limited amount of data at a time so I recommend you zoom in to the
 highest or penultimate zoom level.


 Nice start.

 I'd like to be able to zoom in more, particularly in central London.  
 I've also found that clicking Get Junctions often gets an area,  
 where only a little bit is visible at the highest zoom, and you have  
 to pan and re-request to get for the current area. I'd also like a  
 permalink, and a link to the osm site for easy editing.

I did say that it was a quick hack :-)

I have limited the depth of zoom because I am caching tiles from the
main openstreetmap tile server and don't want to overload them with
requests.  The maximum zoom is 15.

The data that you get when you press the button is from all of the
zoom 13 tiles that are completely visible within the map window in the
browser.  If you have zoomed in too far for any whole tiles to be
visible you get one tile's worth of data.  If you zoom out you
obviously get more, but the server won't send more than a 3x3 area to
avoid swamping the user.

I have added a permalink and a link to the main OSM site for editing.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Question regarding mapping inaccuracies.

2009-05-31 Thread Andrew M. Bishop
Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk writes:

 On 29 May 2009, at 20:23, Peter Miller wrote:

 On 29 May 2009, at 15:42, Shaun McDonald wrote:

 I'm wondering if someone will be able to implement an efficient
 version of the snooker ball visualisation on 
 http://www.cyclestreets.net/blog/2009/03/26/thats-a-really-odd-route/

 That's very useful. Is it possible for anyone to view that mapping
 view through Cycle Streets?

 No due to reasons of poor performance, hence why I'm asking is someone  
 else would be interested in implementing something similar with far  
 better performance and global coverage. The original authors would be  
 really happy to see it implemented elsewhere, as it would bring great  
 benefits to the OSM data.

As a quick hack I have generated such a map for the UK.

http://www.gedanken.org.uk/mapping/osm-junctions/junctions.html

The junction data comes from Routino[1] and as such not all highway
junctions are included (only highways that are routable).  The
rendering is performed client-side so is rather slow (probably my
Javascript isn't optimum).  The server will only allow downloading a
limited amount of data at a time so I recommend you zoom in to the
highest or penultimate zoom level.


[1] http://www.gedanken.org.uk/mapping/router/router.html
http://www.gedanken.org.uk/software/routino/

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Re: [Talk-GB] Question regarding mapping inaccuracies.

2009-05-31 Thread Shaun McDonald


On 31 May 2009, at 15:11, Andrew M. Bishop wrote:


Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk writes:


On 29 May 2009, at 20:23, Peter Miller wrote:


On 29 May 2009, at 15:42, Shaun McDonald wrote:


I'm wondering if someone will be able to implement an efficient
version of the snooker ball visualisation on 
http://www.cyclestreets.net/blog/2009/03/26/thats-a-really-odd-route/


That's very useful. Is it possible for anyone to view that mapping
view through Cycle Streets?


No due to reasons of poor performance, hence why I'm asking is  
someone

else would be interested in implementing something similar with far
better performance and global coverage. The original authors would be
really happy to see it implemented elsewhere, as it would bring great
benefits to the OSM data.


As a quick hack I have generated such a map for the UK.

http://www.gedanken.org.uk/mapping/osm-junctions/junctions.html

The junction data comes from Routino[1] and as such not all highway
junctions are included (only highways that are routable).  The
rendering is performed client-side so is rather slow (probably my
Javascript isn't optimum).  The server will only allow downloading a
limited amount of data at a time so I recommend you zoom in to the
highest or penultimate zoom level.



Nice start.

I'd like to be able to zoom in more, particularly in central London.  
I've also found that clicking Get Junctions often gets an area,  
where only a little bit is visible at the highest zoom, and you have  
to pan and re-request to get for the current area. I'd also like a  
permalink, and a link to the osm site for easy editing.


Shaun

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[Talk-GB] Question regarding mapping inaccuracies.

2009-05-29 Thread Chris Andrew
Hi, all.

It occurred to me whilst editing recently, that due to user error,
some roads do not correctly link to each other.  I made this mistake
when I first started editing, because I had the resolution at the
wrong setting.  This made things quick and easy, but unless you are
using a small scale, you can't ensure that the way that you are
plotting actually joins an existing way.

This leaves me thinking that this could be a bit of a problem for
route planning on satnav devices and other apps where the roads MUST
connect together.  My question is, can we (do we?) automate the
checking of roads to ensure they are connected to something, and if
not, is it possible to highlight them, rather like unnamed roads can
be shown in red?

Sorry about my garbled message; I hope it makes sense.

Cheers,

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Re: [Talk-GB] Question regarding mapping inaccuracies.

2009-05-29 Thread Shaun McDonald
I'm wondering if someone will be able to implement an efficient  
version of the snooker ball visualisation on http://www.cyclestreets.net/blog/2009/03/26/thats-a-really-odd-route/


Shaun

On 29 May 2009, at 15:19, Chris Andrew wrote:


Hi, all.

It occurred to me whilst editing recently, that due to user error,
some roads do not correctly link to each other.  I made this mistake
when I first started editing, because I had the resolution at the
wrong setting.  This made things quick and easy, but unless you are
using a small scale, you can't ensure that the way that you are
plotting actually joins an existing way.

This leaves me thinking that this could be a bit of a problem for
route planning on satnav devices and other apps where the roads MUST
connect together.  My question is, can we (do we?) automate the
checking of roads to ensure they are connected to something, and if
not, is it possible to highlight them, rather like unnamed roads can
be shown in red?

Sorry about my garbled message; I hope it makes sense.

Cheers,

Chris.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Question regarding mapping inaccuracies.

2009-05-29 Thread Peter Miller

On 29 May 2009, at 15:42, Shaun McDonald wrote:

 I'm wondering if someone will be able to implement an efficient  
 version of the snooker ball visualisation on 
 http://www.cyclestreets.net/blog/2009/03/26/thats-a-really-odd-route/

That's very useful. Is it possible for anyone to view that mapping  
view through Cycle Streets?


Regards,



Peter





 Shaun

 On 29 May 2009, at 15:19, Chris Andrew wrote:

 Hi, all.

 It occurred to me whilst editing recently, that due to user error,
 some roads do not correctly link to each other.  I made this mistake
 when I first started editing, because I had the resolution at the
 wrong setting.  This made things quick and easy, but unless you are
 using a small scale, you can't ensure that the way that you are
 plotting actually joins an existing way.

 This leaves me thinking that this could be a bit of a problem for
 route planning on satnav devices and other apps where the roads MUST
 connect together.  My question is, can we (do we?) automate the
 checking of roads to ensure they are connected to something, and if
 not, is it possible to highlight them, rather like unnamed roads can
 be shown in red?

 Sorry about my garbled message; I hope it makes sense.

 Cheers,

 Chris.

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