Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-20 Thread Ed Avis 
Peter Miller  writes:

>I have removed building=garage, building=school and building=hospital from the
>buildings/addressing layer to allow the addressing work to focus on residential
>buildings.

I think if you do that you should also exclude building=*, amenity=school and
building=*, amenity=hospital.  Otherwise we might get people tagging things as
building=school to get them off the check - and these non-physical building tags
are not liked by many.

(The idea is that the building tag should indicate the physical structure of the
building, so building=church is fine, and could also be used for a former church
now used as a recording studio.  building=garage is also okay.  But the use of
the building should be tagged with amenity or other tags.)

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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-19 Thread Peter Miller 
Just to say that have made a few script adjustments.

I have increased the range of voltages that the Electricity layer is aware
of (and I have also changed the name from 'Electricity distribution' to
'Electricity' since it includes generation as well as distribution).

I have removed sidings of current railways from the Former railways view
(more accurately I have removed current railway lines that include
'service=*').

I have removed building=garage, building=school and building=hospital from
the buildings/addressing layer to allow the addressing work to focus on
residential buildings. This will need a bit more finessing over time and
possibly schools should be included.

One thing I forgot to mention is that the tiles can be used within editors.
Here is the sort of URL that can be used (replace the layer number as
appropriate). Personally I haven't found it very useful given that the
background is always obscured by the actual vectors in the editor - I would
suggest that it would be better to devise suitable matching scripts in
Potlatch and possibly also JOSM to colour-code the vectors themselves but I
have figured out how to do that yet.

http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/wms?TILE=$z/$x/$y&LAYERS=9&STYLES=&SRS=EPSG:900913&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=on&SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&EXCEPTIONS=application%2Fvnd.ogc.se_inimage&WIDTH=256&HEIGHT=256

Regards,


Peter


On 19 March 2011 10:41, Peter Miller  wrote:

>
>
> On 19 March 2011 09:47, Bob Kerr wrote:
>
>> Excellent,
>>
>> I have already discovered some discrepancies in Edinburgh using the layers
>> layer. I am also not noticing any lag in displaying the data at this time.
>>  I can also see the benefit of highlighting the schools and hope that in the
>> future that maybe hospitals,doctors will be included
>>
>
> Layers seem to be in a terrible muddle in many parts of the country. I have
> spent a good number of hours over the past week sorting out layering in East
> Anglia and in London/Essex/Herts to the north of the Thames. A combination
> of no clear guidelines, confusion over how to tag islands and clearings in
> woods etc, warnings from JOSM? as well as no visibility of the tagging
> itself led to a profusion of errors. In some parts of the country and across
> Europe it seems to have become established practice to tag all rivers and
> streams as layer=-1. As such some I hope some serious rationalisation will
> take place.
>
> Regarding hospitals, doctors etc, ye that would be good. We currently offer
> 22 different overlays and I can see this easily getting to 100 or more -
> heath being one, sport being another etc etc. Each additional layer places
> an addition burden on the servers. I suggest we leave it at about 22 for the
> next 2-4 weeks while we sort out any snags and optimise the caching etc and
> then look to increase the number of views. Our priority at present is to
> move to global coverage of the existing layers.
>
> Thanks for the feedback and ancouragement.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>> Well done
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 18/3/11, Peter Miller * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Peter Miller 
>> Subject: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta
>> To: "Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org" 
>> Date: Friday, 18 March, 2011, 14:12
>>
>>
>> ITO are pleased to announce a set of new 'overlay maps' for OpenStreetMap
>> which can highlights some of the data layers, such as speed limits, highway
>> lane widths, whether rivers are navigable and if buildings have addresses
>> etc.
>>
>> The service is still very much in beta and may suffer if many people jump
>> on it at the same time but lets see what happens.
>>
>> The service is available here:
>> http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main
>>
>> And a wiki description is available here:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ITO_Map
>>
>> We are starting with a service for a bounding box that included the UK and
>> northern France, Holland, a bit of Germany and up to southern Norway and a
>> separate bounding box including the bay area, SF. The tiles will always be
>> based current daily diff planet data (with a 24 hour processing lag). We
>> should never serve old tiles from old data. If the service is noticeably
>> slow then please give it a break for a hour and then try again.
>>
>> We will roll out the service to more areas as the system beds in and then
>> globally over the next few weeks assuming that the servers hold up.
>>
>> We will gather feedback over the next week or so and then many some
>> changes to the service to iron out any wrinkles.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Peter Miller
>> ITO World Ltd
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-19 Thread Peter Miller 
On 19 March 2011 09:47, Bob Kerr wrote:

> Excellent,
>
> I have already discovered some discrepancies in Edinburgh using the layers
> layer. I am also not noticing any lag in displaying the data at this time.
>  I can also see the benefit of highlighting the schools and hope that in the
> future that maybe hospitals,doctors will be included
>

Layers seem to be in a terrible muddle in many parts of the country. I have
spent a good number of hours over the past week sorting out layering in East
Anglia and in London/Essex/Herts to the north of the Thames. A combination
of no clear guidelines, confusion over how to tag islands and clearings in
woods etc, warnings from JOSM? as well as no visibility of the tagging
itself led to a profusion of errors. In some parts of the country and across
Europe it seems to have become established practice to tag all rivers and
streams as layer=-1. As such some I hope some serious rationalisation will
take place.

Regarding hospitals, doctors etc, ye that would be good. We currently offer
22 different overlays and I can see this easily getting to 100 or more -
heath being one, sport being another etc etc. Each additional layer places
an addition burden on the servers. I suggest we leave it at about 22 for the
next 2-4 weeks while we sort out any snags and optimise the caching etc and
then look to increase the number of views. Our priority at present is to
move to global coverage of the existing layers.

Thanks for the feedback and ancouragement.



Regards,


Peter


> Well done
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob
>
> --- On *Fri, 18/3/11, Peter Miller * wrote:
>
>
> From: Peter Miller 
> Subject: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta
> To: "Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org" 
> Date: Friday, 18 March, 2011, 14:12
>
>
> ITO are pleased to announce a set of new 'overlay maps' for OpenStreetMap
> which can highlights some of the data layers, such as speed limits, highway
> lane widths, whether rivers are navigable and if buildings have addresses
> etc.
>
> The service is still very much in beta and may suffer if many people jump
> on it at the same time but lets see what happens.
>
> The service is available here:
> http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main
>
> And a wiki description is available here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ITO_Map
>
> We are starting with a service for a bounding box that included the UK and
> northern France, Holland, a bit of Germany and up to southern Norway and a
> separate bounding box including the bay area, SF. The tiles will always be
> based current daily diff planet data (with a 24 hour processing lag). We
> should never serve old tiles from old data. If the service is noticeably
> slow then please give it a break for a hour and then try again.
>
> We will roll out the service to more areas as the system beds in and then
> globally over the next few weeks assuming that the servers hold up.
>
> We will gather feedback over the next week or so and then many some changes
> to the service to iron out any wrinkles.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter Miller
> ITO World Ltd
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-19 Thread Bob Kerr 
Excellent,
I have already discovered some discrepancies in Edinburgh using the layers 
layer. I am also not noticing any lag in displaying the data at this time.  I 
can also see the benefit of highlighting the schools and hope that in the 
future that maybe hospitals,doctors will be included
Well done
Cheers
Bob

--- On Fri, 18/3/11, Peter Miller  wrote:

From: Peter Miller 
Subject: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta
To: "Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org" 
Date: Friday, 18 March, 2011, 14:12

ITO are pleased to announce a set of new 'overlay maps' for OpenStreetMap which 
can highlights some of the data layers, such as speed limits, highway lane 
widths, whether rivers are navigable and if buildings have addresses etc.


The service is still very much in beta and may suffer if many people jump on it 
at the same time but lets see what happens.

The service is available here:
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main


And a wiki description is available here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ITO_Map

We are starting with a service for a bounding box that included the UK and 
northern France, Holland, a bit of Germany and up to southern Norway and a 
separate bounding box including the bay area, SF. The tiles will always be 
based current daily diff planet data (with a 24 hour processing lag). We should 
never serve old tiles from old data. If the service is noticeably slow then 
please give it a break for a hour and then try again.


We will roll out the service to more areas as the system beds in and then 
globally over the next few weeks assuming that the servers hold up.

We will gather feedback over the next week or so and then many some changes to 
the service to iron out any wrinkles.




Regards,


Peter Miller
ITO World Ltd



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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-18 Thread Ed Avis 
Peter Miller  writes:

>Does the highlighting still work when POIs are mapped as a point
>instead of an area?

>No - unfortunately we can't do anything with nodes yet.

Understood.  Nowadays the Bing imagery is good enough that schools and
churches (though perhaps not all shops or restaurants) can be traced
as buildings or areas, even though in the early days of OSM it was
normal to make a node for them.

One of the useful armchair tasks that can be done with the Bing
imagery is to hunt for such POIs mapped as a node and where the
building shape is obvious, trace it and move the tags to the building.
I don't believe there is currently a 'lint' map that suggests such
candidates.

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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-18 Thread Peter Miller 
On 18 March 2011 17:11, Ed Avis  wrote:

> Does the highlighting still work when POIs are mapped as a point instead of
> an
> area?  For example if a node exists with amenity=school, will it show up on
> the schools map?
>

No - unfortunately we can't do anything with nodes yet. that is still on our
'to-do list' so we can't (yet) display anything that relates to nodes rather
than ways.


Peter




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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-18 Thread Ed Avis 
Does the highlighting still work when POIs are mapped as a point instead of an
area?  For example if a node exists with amenity=school, will it show up on
the schools map?

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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-18 Thread Gregory Williams 
The performance is perfectly fine. It's faster than your OSM Analysis
service.

 

From: petermille...@gmail.com [mailto:petermille...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Peter Miller
Sent: 18 March 2011 16:42
To: Gregory Williams
Cc: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta


Incidentally, what has the performance been like? Has it felt slow for
anyone?

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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-18 Thread Peter Miller 
On 18 March 2011 15:15, Gregory Williams <
gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk> wrote:

> Peter,
>
>
>
> A great service. It’ll certainly help me with keeping track of where extra
> details still need to be mapped.
>
>
>
> I’ve noticed these small issues:
>
> -   Ferry routes appear to be highlighted in red on the Water layer,
> but this doesn’t match anything in the key.
> http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3&bbox=100067.24713886814,6641995.275980514,184201.48415728885,6686900.195601286&layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true
>

Yes - the keys needs bit of work - I added ferry routes after creating them.
I would say that the colours might benefit from the rationalisation across
different styles.

> -   At zoom level 3 on the Water layer it appears to load overlay
> tiles for that layer, but also displays the “You need to zoom in further to
> view the overlay layer” warning.
> http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3&bbox=58000.12998157775,6619542.830379137,226268.60401842726,6709352.669620863&layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true
>
> That is for today only. We experiments with rendering other places and
other zoom levels before settling on what we have today. As a result we have
other tiles rendered rather randomly at present.

> -   Schools with names are incorrectly bordered with red (as Steve
> Doerr has also just pointed out):
> http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=6&bbox=119108.430780305,754.055789617,124366.820593955,6669560.613265983&layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true
>

We are looking into this one (and also for the point about  ignored house
numbers). Looks like a bug to us but not one which we can fix until next
week. Sorry about that.


>
>
> A layer showing lighting would also be very useful. I realise that there’s
> a similar layer on the Wikimedia Toolserver, but it doesn’t seem to get
> updated:
>
>
>
>
> http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/?layers=B000F0TFF0FFF&zoom=13&lat=51.28253&lon=1.08301
>
>
>

I had made one of those, but it didn't have a key so I didn't release it and
I also wanted to cap the number of initial layers. It still doesn't have a
key but I have released it so you can take a peek as the servers seem to be
coping. I was also going to adjust the script to highlight the trunk road
network in grey if nothing is specified (as I do for highway lanes and speed
limits views).

To answer your other question below which you then answered yourself! (this
was 'Is it intentional that highway=unclassified and highway=residential
don’t seem to fall under “other” when they haven’t got a maxspeed tag
applied? ') the answer is yes - I felt that we could focus of capturing
speed limits for the 'through' routes for starters. No problem giving speeds
for very minor roads but the layer won't draw attention to the fact that
they are missing. I will clarify the key.

Incidentally, what has the performance been like? Has it felt slow for
anyone?



Peter




Cheers,
>
>
>
> Gregory
>
>
>
> *From:* Peter Miller [mailto:peter.mil...@itoworld.com]
> *Sent:* 18 March 2011 14:13
> *To:* Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta
>
>
>
> ITO are pleased to announce a set of new 'overlay maps' for OpenStreetMap
> which can highlights some of the data layers, such as speed limits, highway
> lane widths, whether rivers are navigable and if buildings have addresses
> etc.
>
> The service is still very much in beta and may suffer if many people jump
> on it at the same time but lets see what happens.
>
> The service is available here:
> http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main
>
> And a wiki description is available here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ITO_Map
>
> We are starting with a service for a bounding box that included the UK and
> northern France, Holland, a bit of Germany and up to southern Norway and a
> separate bounding box including the bay area, SF. The tiles will always be
> based current daily diff planet data (with a 24 hour processing lag). We
> should never serve old tiles from old data. If the service is noticeably
> slow then please give it a break for a hour and then try again.
>
> We will roll out the service to more areas as the system beds in and then
> globally over the next few weeks assuming that the servers hold up.
>
> We will gather feedback over the next week or so and then many some changes
> to the service to iron out any wrinkles.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter Miller
> ITO World Ltd
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-18 Thread Gregory Williams 
OK, ignore that. It's been pointed out to me that the wiki says tertiary
upwards.

 

From: Gregory Williams [mailto:gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk] 
Sent: 18 March 2011 15:29
To: 'Peter Miller'; 'Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org'
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

 

Peter,

 

Is it intentional that highway=unclassified and highway=residential don't
seem to fall under "other" when they haven't got a maxspeed tag applied? For
example:

 

http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=5
<http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=5&bbox=129803.642408
365,6685618.390976917,135062.03015,6688424.948453283&layers=&base_style=
&clear_map_history=true>
&bbox=129803.642408365,6685618.390976917,135062.03015,6688424.948453283&
layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

 

Brook Lane and Barnes Way don't have lines on top and don't have maxspeed
applied either.

 

Cheers,

 

Gregory

 

From: Gregory Williams [mailto:gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk] 
Sent: 18 March 2011 15:15
To: 'Peter Miller'; 'Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org'
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

 

Peter,

 

A great service. It'll certainly help me with keeping track of where extra
details still need to be mapped.

 

I've noticed these small issues:

-   Ferry routes appear to be highlighted in red on the Water layer, but
this doesn't match anything in the key.
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3
<http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3&bbox=100067.247138
86814,6641995.275980514,184201.48415728885,6686900.195601286&layers=&base_st
yle=&clear_map_history=true>
&bbox=100067.24713886814,6641995.275980514,184201.48415728885,6686900.195601
286&layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

-   At zoom level 3 on the Water layer it appears to load overlay tiles
for that layer, but also displays the "You need to zoom in further to view
the overlay layer" warning.
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3
<http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3&bbox=58000.1299815
7775,6619542.830379137,226268.60401842726,6709352.669620863&layers=&base_sty
le=&clear_map_history=true>
&bbox=58000.12998157775,6619542.830379137,226268.60401842726,6709352.6696208
63&layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

-   Schools with names are incorrectly bordered with red (as Steve Doerr
has also just pointed out):
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=6
<http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=6&bbox=119108.430780
305,754.055789617,124366.820593955,6669560.613265983&layers=&base_style=
&clear_map_history=true>
&bbox=119108.430780305,754.055789617,124366.820593955,6669560.613265983&
layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

 

A layer showing lighting would also be very useful. I realise that there's a
similar layer on the Wikimedia Toolserver, but it doesn't seem to get
updated:

 

http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/?layers=B000F0TFF0FFF
<http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/?layers=B000F0TFF0FFF&zoom=13&lat
=51.28253&lon=1.08301> &zoom=13&lat=51.28253&lon=1.08301

 

Cheers,

 

Gregory

 

From: Peter Miller [mailto:peter.mil...@itoworld.com] 
Sent: 18 March 2011 14:13
To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

 

ITO are pleased to announce a set of new 'overlay maps' for OpenStreetMap
which can highlights some of the data layers, such as speed limits, highway
lane widths, whether rivers are navigable and if buildings have addresses
etc.

The service is still very much in beta and may suffer if many people jump on
it at the same time but lets see what happens.

The service is available here:
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main

And a wiki description is available here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ITO_Map

We are starting with a service for a bounding box that included the UK and
northern France, Holland, a bit of Germany and up to southern Norway and a
separate bounding box including the bay area, SF. The tiles will always be
based current daily diff planet data (with a 24 hour processing lag). We
should never serve old tiles from old data. If the service is noticeably
slow then please give it a break for a hour and then try again.

We will roll out the service to more areas as the system beds in and then
globally over the next few weeks assuming that the servers hold up.

We will gather feedback over the next week or so and then many some changes
to the service to iron out any wrinkles.



Regards,


Peter Miller
ITO World Ltd

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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-18 Thread Gregory Williams 
Peter,

 

Is it intentional that highway=unclassified and highway=residential don't
seem to fall under "other" when they haven't got a maxspeed tag applied? For
example:

 

http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=5
<http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=5&bbox=129803.642408
365,6685618.390976917,135062.03015,6688424.948453283&layers=&base_style=
&clear_map_history=true>
&bbox=129803.642408365,6685618.390976917,135062.03015,6688424.948453283&
layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

 

Brook Lane and Barnes Way don't have lines on top and don't have maxspeed
applied either.

 

Cheers,

 

Gregory

 

From: Gregory Williams [mailto:gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk] 
Sent: 18 March 2011 15:15
To: 'Peter Miller'; 'Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org'
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

 

Peter,

 

A great service. It'll certainly help me with keeping track of where extra
details still need to be mapped.

 

I've noticed these small issues:

-   Ferry routes appear to be highlighted in red on the Water layer, but
this doesn't match anything in the key.
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3
<http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3&bbox=100067.247138
86814,6641995.275980514,184201.48415728885,6686900.195601286&layers=&base_st
yle=&clear_map_history=true>
&bbox=100067.24713886814,6641995.275980514,184201.48415728885,6686900.195601
286&layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

-   At zoom level 3 on the Water layer it appears to load overlay tiles
for that layer, but also displays the "You need to zoom in further to view
the overlay layer" warning.
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3
<http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3&bbox=58000.1299815
7775,6619542.830379137,226268.60401842726,6709352.669620863&layers=&base_sty
le=&clear_map_history=true>
&bbox=58000.12998157775,6619542.830379137,226268.60401842726,6709352.6696208
63&layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

-   Schools with names are incorrectly bordered with red (as Steve Doerr
has also just pointed out):
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=6
<http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=6&bbox=119108.430780
305,754.055789617,124366.820593955,6669560.613265983&layers=&base_style=
&clear_map_history=true>
&bbox=119108.430780305,754.055789617,124366.820593955,6669560.613265983&
layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

 

A layer showing lighting would also be very useful. I realise that there's a
similar layer on the Wikimedia Toolserver, but it doesn't seem to get
updated:

 

http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/?layers=B000F0TFF0FFF
<http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/?layers=B000F0TFF0FFF&zoom=13&lat
=51.28253&lon=1.08301> &zoom=13&lat=51.28253&lon=1.08301

 

Cheers,

 

Gregory

 

From: Peter Miller [mailto:peter.mil...@itoworld.com] 
Sent: 18 March 2011 14:13
To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

 

ITO are pleased to announce a set of new 'overlay maps' for OpenStreetMap
which can highlights some of the data layers, such as speed limits, highway
lane widths, whether rivers are navigable and if buildings have addresses
etc.

The service is still very much in beta and may suffer if many people jump on
it at the same time but lets see what happens.

The service is available here:
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main

And a wiki description is available here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ITO_Map

We are starting with a service for a bounding box that included the UK and
northern France, Holland, a bit of Germany and up to southern Norway and a
separate bounding box including the bay area, SF. The tiles will always be
based current daily diff planet data (with a 24 hour processing lag). We
should never serve old tiles from old data. If the service is noticeably
slow then please give it a break for a hour and then try again.

We will roll out the service to more areas as the system beds in and then
globally over the next few weeks assuming that the servers hold up.

We will gather feedback over the next week or so and then many some changes
to the service to iron out any wrinkles.



Regards,


Peter Miller
ITO World Ltd

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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-18 Thread Ed Avis 
Peter Miller  writes:

>ITO are pleased to announce a set of new 'overlay maps' for OpenStreetMap which
>can highlights some of the data layers,

Looks useful for enabling a whole new class of 'noname hunts' now that the
unnamed streets are almost all gone in inner London.  Thanks.

Here is an example of a school which is named in OSM, but highlighted in red:

http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=6
  &bbox=-12417.127097309,6714804.31181825,-11084.256416825001,6715625.24072455
  &layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-18 Thread Gregory Williams 
Peter,

 

A great service. It'll certainly help me with keeping track of where extra
details still need to be mapped.

 

I've noticed these small issues:

-   Ferry routes appear to be highlighted in red on the Water layer, but
this doesn't match anything in the key.
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3

&bbox=100067.24713886814,6641995.275980514,184201.48415728885,6686900.195601
286&layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

-   At zoom level 3 on the Water layer it appears to load overlay tiles
for that layer, but also displays the "You need to zoom in further to view
the overlay layer" warning.
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=3

&bbox=58000.12998157775,6619542.830379137,226268.60401842726,6709352.6696208
63&layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

-   Schools with names are incorrectly bordered with red (as Steve Doerr
has also just pointed out):
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=6

&bbox=119108.430780305,754.055789617,124366.820593955,6669560.613265983&
layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

 

A layer showing lighting would also be very useful. I realise that there's a
similar layer on the Wikimedia Toolserver, but it doesn't seem to get
updated:

 

http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/?layers=B000F0TFF0FFF
 &zoom=13&lat=51.28253&lon=1.08301

 

Cheers,

 

Gregory

 

From: Peter Miller [mailto:peter.mil...@itoworld.com] 
Sent: 18 March 2011 14:13
To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

 

ITO are pleased to announce a set of new 'overlay maps' for OpenStreetMap
which can highlights some of the data layers, such as speed limits, highway
lane widths, whether rivers are navigable and if buildings have addresses
etc.

The service is still very much in beta and may suffer if many people jump on
it at the same time but lets see what happens.

The service is available here:
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main

And a wiki description is available here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ITO_Map

We are starting with a service for a bounding box that included the UK and
northern France, Holland, a bit of Germany and up to southern Norway and a
separate bounding box including the bay area, SF. The tiles will always be
based current daily diff planet data (with a 24 hour processing lag). We
should never serve old tiles from old data. If the service is noticeably
slow then please give it a break for a hour and then try again.

We will roll out the service to more areas as the system beds in and then
globally over the next few weeks assuming that the servers hold up.

We will gather feedback over the next week or so and then many some changes
to the service to iron out any wrinkles.



Regards,


Peter Miller
ITO World Ltd

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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-18 Thread Steve Doerr 

Thanks. Looks good. Any chance of a Pubs overlay? :-)

I've noticed that schools around here are shown in red even though they 
have a name tag, e.g. .


Steve

On 18/03/2011 14:12, Peter Miller wrote:
ITO are pleased to announce a set of new 'overlay maps' for 
OpenStreetMap which can highlights some of the data layers, such as 
speed limits, highway lane widths, whether rivers are navigable and if 
buildings have addresses etc.


The service is still very much in beta and may suffer if many people 
jump on it at the same time but lets see what happens.


The service is available here:
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main

And a wiki description is available here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ITO_Map

We are starting with a service for a bounding box that included the UK 
and northern France, Holland, a bit of Germany and up to southern 
Norway and a separate bounding box including the bay area, SF. The 
tiles will always be based current daily diff planet data (with a 24 
hour processing lag). We should never serve old tiles from old data. 
If the service is noticeably slow then please give it a break for a 
hour and then try again.


We will roll out the service to more areas as the system beds in and 
then globally over the next few weeks assuming that the servers hold up.


We will gather feedback over the next week or so and then many some 
changes to the service to iron out any wrinkles.




Regards,


Peter Miller
ITO World Ltd


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Re: [Talk-GB] new ITO Map service in beta

2011-03-18 Thread Dan Karran 
On 18 March 2011 14:12, Peter Miller  wrote:
> ITO are pleased to announce a set of new 'overlay maps' for OpenStreetMap
> which can highlights some of the data layers, such as speed limits, highway
> lane widths, whether rivers are navigable and if buildings have addresses
> etc.

This looks great Peter, and should be very handy. I've spotted one
little issue though - it doesn't seem to be picking up house numbers,
leaving those buildings highlighted in red, e.g.:
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=9&bbox=-518360.44660884404,7184284.303921774,-517168.387266376,7184844.964746826&layers=&base_style=&clear_map_history=true

Cheers,
Dan

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