Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] West Midlands Fire Service using OSM data without attribution

[Ed Loach]

Andy wrote:

> West Midlands Fire Service announced a new "Risk Explorer" web
> service
> [1] today; it is clearly based on OSM map data, but I can see no
> attribution,
> 
> I have pointed this requirement out to them on Twitter [2] and
await
> their response.
> 
> The site was built by a company called "Shoothill" [3].

If you get a response, they should probably also be pointed at 
https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/737
as they are still using the a. b. and c. prefixes, and perhaps more
importantly
https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/tiles/
  
> [1] https://riskexplorer.wmfs.net/map
> 
> [2]
> https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1719715267003974084
> 
> [3] https://shoothill.com/

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Cosford aircraft

[Ed Loach]

Andy asked:
> We have several of the static, outdoor aircraft at the RAF Museum
at
> Cosford mapped as "historic=aircraft" nodes, but with no tags
giving
> their type, registration, etc.
> 
> An example is:
> 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6249198920
> 
> with others close by.
> 
> Does anyone have the details, please?

If anyone can identify aircraft from slightly blurry photos then
this one
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6249198917
is visible in 
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=734140723946844
(taken when I decided to drive a section of NCN81 for some reason
I've since forgotten).

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] One-way in Wolverhampton

[Ed Loach]

Wolverhampton Council's Twitter feed provides a link to

 

https://www.wolverhampton.gov.uk/parking-and-roads/city-centre-road-changes

 

Ed

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Downloading Slippy Maps / User-Agent

[Ed Loach]

I've recently written an application to download (non-OSM) information 
automatically by basically automating what I previously did manually. In case 
the people who run the site I'm downloading from  wonder why I'm only making 
three calls to complete the authentication and download the data rather than 
all the extra ones their javascript/php site does at the same time (to check 
things for display etc) I included a descriptive application name to explain 
what the data was for, and an email address in case they wanted to reach me.

Ed

> -Original Message-
> From: Iain Simpson
> Sent: 09 July 2019 13:54
> To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Downloading Slippy Maps / User-
> Agent
> 
> "..set it to something that uniquely identifying your application,
> rather than using one from a web browser"
> 
> Thanks for the comment. I take your point and I've now created a
> unique
> user-agent, identifying the OS and application description, which
> works.
> 
> Since the standard Python agent is blacklisted,  there does not seem
> to
> be much documentation on how small non-browser applications
> (using very
> simple HTML techniques) should format their user-agents.
> 
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops suspended

[Ed Loach]

If they’re physically still there leave the nodes there but temporarily remove 
them from the affected route relations?

 

From: Andy Mabbett [mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk] 
Sent: 03 October 2017 08:51
To: talk-gb-westmidlands 
Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops suspended

 

For a supposed "trial period" a number of bus stops in Birmingham have bel 
withdrawn from use:

 

https://www.tfwm.org.uk/news/trial-closure-of-little-used-bus-stops-in-bid-to-speed-up-journey-times/

 

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/your-bus-stop-going-axed-13681495

 

How should they be tagged, given the hope that they will return to service? Has 
anyone done this yet?

 

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Review of Solihull naptan data

[Ed Loach]

How many of those also have physically_present=no (so definitely a bus stop, 
but no pole) as described here:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Surveying_and_Merging_NaPTAN_and_OSM_data#physically_present

?

 

Ed

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:br...@mappa-mercia.org] 
Sent: 08 February 2017 12:35
To: OSM Group WM 
Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Review of Solihull naptan data

 

Hi everyone

I've found 39 CUS stops that are marked with highway=bus_stop. Over 60% were 
edited by reliable mappers so I'd trust our data mostly I think it will be 
where CUS stops have been upgraded by TfWM sticking a pole in the ground.

I think we can live with any anomalies unti an automated edit  updates this 
data.

Regards

Brian

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Wolverhampton Railway Station access from 8th January 2017

[Ed Loach]

A GPS trace is in the upload queue. I’ll try and get more details from my 
dashcam though it was fairly misty at 8am this morning.

 

Ed

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:br...@mappa-mercia.org] 
Sent: 01 December 2016 13:26
To: Ed Loach
Cc: OSM Group WM
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Wolverhampton Railway Station access from 
8th January 2017

 

Hi Ed

I can do this - might not be exactly on 8th Jan

Regards

Brian

 

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Ed Loach  wrote:

I've just been reading about the changes that will take place early next year 
at this link

 

http://www.wolverhampton.gov.uk/article/10057/Access-to-railway-station-and-car-park-to-change-in-New-Year

 

and wondered if anyone here will be in the area to get a GPS trace of the new 
short stay car park once it opens?

 

Looking at the area as it is now in OpenStreetMap:

 

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.58648/-2.12107

 

from a routing point of view bicycles will need to push their bicycles across 
the foot bridge, but as that ends on a pedestrian area I suspect very little 
currently will be able to route that way. A survey of that area from a cyclists 
point of view after the changes might also be handy.

 

Looking at the proposed changes the following section of Corn Hill seems to be 
missing, so it is perhaps possible the derelict building mentioned in the note 
has been removed to make the new short stay parking area:

 

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294503793

 

but a survey will be needed to check.

 

I'll probably be in Wolverhampton at some point between now and new year, but 
don't know when I'll next be visiting after the 8th January.

 

Thanks and best wishes,

 

Ed

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Wolverhampton Railway Station access from 8th January 2017

[Ed Loach]

I walked past yesterday and uploaded some Mapillary images and made an estimate 
based on what I could see. There is also a good chance I’ll be in Wolverhampton 
on 8th, so will try and get a GPS trace of the bit that is currently fenced off 
(and if I can get the phone in the car taking Mapillary or whatever 
OpenStreetView is now called images, I’ll try that too).

 

Ed

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:br...@mappa-mercia.org] 
Sent: 01 December 2016 13:26
To: Ed Loach
Cc: OSM Group WM
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Wolverhampton Railway Station access from 
8th January 2017

 

Hi Ed

I can do this - might not be exactly on 8th Jan

Regards

Brian

 

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Ed Loach  wrote:

I've just been reading about the changes that will take place early next year 
at this link

 

http://www.wolverhampton.gov.uk/article/10057/Access-to-railway-station-and-car-park-to-change-in-New-Year

 

and wondered if anyone here will be in the area to get a GPS trace of the new 
short stay car park once it opens?

 

Looking at the area as it is now in OpenStreetMap:

 

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.58648/-2.12107

 

from a routing point of view bicycles will need to push their bicycles across 
the foot bridge, but as that ends on a pedestrian area I suspect very little 
currently will be able to route that way. A survey of that area from a cyclists 
point of view after the changes might also be handy.

 

Looking at the proposed changes the following section of Corn Hill seems to be 
missing, so it is perhaps possible the derelict building mentioned in the note 
has been removed to make the new short stay parking area:

 

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294503793

 

but a survey will be needed to check.

 

I'll probably be in Wolverhampton at some point between now and new year, but 
don't know when I'll next be visiting after the 8th January.

 

Thanks and best wishes,

 

Ed

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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Wolverhampton Railway Station access from 8th January 2017

[Ed Loach]

I've just been reading about the changes that will take place early
next year at this link

 

http://www.wolverhampton.gov.uk/article/10057/Access-to-railway-stat
ion-and-car-park-to-change-in-New-Year

 

and wondered if anyone here will be in the area to get a GPS trace
of the new short stay car park once it opens?

 

Looking at the area as it is now in OpenStreetMap:

 

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.58648/-2.12107

 

from a routing point of view bicycles will need to push their
bicycles across the foot bridge, but as that ends on a pedestrian
area I suspect very little currently will be able to route that way.
A survey of that area from a cyclists point of view after the
changes might also be handy.

 

Looking at the proposed changes the following section of Corn Hill
seems to be missing, so it is perhaps possible the derelict building
mentioned in the note has been removed to make the new short stay
parking area:

 

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294503793

 

but a survey will be needed to check.

 

I'll probably be in Wolverhampton at some point between now and new
year, but don't know when I'll next be visiting after the 8th
January.

 

Thanks and best wishes,

 

Ed

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar data - Worcester

[Ed Loach]

For the Tendring 50cm link Rob mentions below I downloaded the DSM data for 
TM01, TM02, TM03, TM11, TM12, TM13, TM21, TM22, TM23 (effectively a 30km x 30km 
square which covers more than just the Tendring district) and followed the 
instructions on Chris Hill’s blog post [1] after unzipping all the files to the 
same folder.

 

z9-z17 is already uploaded on the link below. Z19 has just started uploading 
(and is about 440,000 tiles and 1.6GB) and z18 is still generating – I’ll kick 
that upload off once z19 completes.

 

I’ve done similar with the 1m and 2m DSM data (change 50cm in the link below to 
see the difference in terms of resolution and coverage) – they’re uploaded for 
z9-z18. I picked z9 as that is the zoom level where a single tile covers the 
whole area (then 4 for z10 and so on). 

 

Ed

 

[1] http://chris-osm.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/more-lidar-goodness.html

 

From: Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 08 October 2015 21:18
To: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lidar data - Worcester

 

Hi all,

We spoke about the Lidar data (height data) at this months Mappa Mercia 
meeting. Chris Hill has kindly offered to process and host some tile in the 
Worcester region. In the mean time here is an example of the 50cm resolution 
data:

http://www.loach.me.uk/lidar/50cm/

Rob

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Cathorpe Interchange

[Ed Loach]

Andy wrote:

> BBC News is reporting that part of the new Cathorpe Interchange
> opened today.
> 
> Does anyone know which part this is, and has it been marked as
> open on the map?

I've seen the follow up emails, but I have gps traces of A14 to M6 from 8pm 
Friday and now don't know whether it is worth using them to update the (then) 
current arrangement which takes M6 bound cars onto the old carriageway that 
used to be for cars in the opposite direction for a time (cars heading the 
other way are on a newer carriageway that I think I've updated previously from 
traces taken when heading home to Clacton).

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] WM Boundary relations

[Ed Loach]

Brian wrote:

> I've not changed any boundary WAYS as that is a massive job. I think that we 
> really don't need the ways any longer as the relations will get rendered, but 
> that's another discussion entirely and a tedious job to do. But perhaps we'd 
> better do it to avoid confusing software and humans

I've done it - my boundary analyser that generates the data for 
http://www.loach.me.uk/osm/boundaries/
allows me (when run manually rather than as a scheduled task) to open just the 
boundary ways which should have the specified admin level (but don't) in JOSM.

I used to 'fix' these nationally on a fairly regular basis, decided they were 
optional, so stopped doing so. However, I believe it makes rendering easier if 
they are specified and 'correct' based on the boundary relations they are in.

I've tried to restrict the ones I've changed today to just those in the West 
Midlands area, but may have got any that are in the same bbox but outside the 
region. I updated 47 ways:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/28255092

Ed


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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Nominatim results

[Ed Loach]

I've been looking at Tipton since it got a mention in #osm-gb IRC
channel for a note being added "near Staffordshire".

http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=114798

Nominatim is using old county place nodes which pre-date the
boundary relations to determine the county. Some counties have such
a node, some don't, and Kent has two, so I removed the Staffordshire
node after moving the GNS information from the node to the relation,
and that shifted Tipton to Worcestershire. I did the same again for
Worcestershire, and it now shows as Warwickshire, with a couple more
distant place nodes showing as the next likely ones that will be
picked should I carry on down this road.

 

So I figured I was addressing (no pun intended) the problem from the
wrong angle. I then noticed the West Midlands mentioned in the
nominatim results is admin level 5 not 6, so the European region,
not the county. I then read Wikipedia a bit and discover that the
West Midlands is effectively a county without a county council,
which is perhaps why the boundary relation for the county was
switched to ceremonial, causing all the strange nominatim results.
Wikipedia suggests that with the abolition of the county council,
although a few services are still organised county wide, that each
former district is effectively a unitary authority. If so, then like
for Southend-on-Sea, their boundary relation should be updated to
admin level 6, rather than being left at admin level 8. This should
result in nominatim reporting Tipton, Sandwell rather than picking
the nearest county node.

 

However, perhaps you've all discussed this before and there are
local things I'm not aware. Indeed I lived in the West Midlands when
the county council was abolished and didn't even notice...

 

So I thought I'd pass this over to you all to discuss to see whether
you thought the admin levels would be more appropriate set to the
level of unitary authority rather than county district.

 

Ed

 

PS: I'm not sure either why the admin level 5 relation links to the
German Wikipedia rather than the English one.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/57517

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/151283

 

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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Wolverhampton changes

[Ed Loach]

Not sure how many active mappers there are in Wolverhampton, but
noticed this article:
http://www.wolverhampton.gov.uk/article/5218/Latest-phase-of-city-ce
ntre-improvements-gets-underway
Some changes to traffic flow in the centre.

Ed


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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bing tiles Wolverhampton

[Ed Loach]

With similar issues at Bing

http://binged.it/1k6dByI

 

Ed

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bing tiles Wolverhampton

[Ed Loach]

Seems to be a Bing issue. North and East Wolverhampton seem OK, but
this is the corner of the problem area (as seen in Potlatch 2):

http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch2#map=17/52.58943/-
2.10928

 

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 29 January 2014 11:04
To: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bing tiles Wolverhampton

 

What's happened to the tiles here? In JOSM I can't see anything  at
higher zoom levels except "No Tiles at this Zoom Level"  Is it me or
is there a system failure somehwere?

Regards

brian

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Update shops, pubs and restaurants

[Ed Loach]

> > Maybe it would be an idea to set up some kind of page in which
we
> > track in
> > which parts of Birmingham the shops still need to be surveyed?

As someone who now only visits the West Midlands irregularly, you
don't just need to track where still needs to be surveyed. You need
a way of tracking when an area was last surveyed too. I now live in
Clacton, a small Essex town, where there seems to be a high rate of
change of what shops there are. I mapped most of the shops a few
months ago and am aware a few need updating already (I spot them
when driving and can't make notes; when I was last walking through
the town I took a photo of a pie shop I'd never seen before to
update when I got home - and haven't yet). Certain takeaways also
seem prone to change their name at intervals. As you can tell, I
don't have a systematic way of tracking these things, but the area
I'm concerned about probably has many fewer shops than Birmingham.

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops

[Ed Loach]

Matthijs asked:

 



 

> The question is now, which of these should we use for the name

> tag?

 



 

> Please let me know what you think.

 

For name, use whatever is on the bus stop sign. So in this example:

http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/65797/article_346b19a79c148b9f
_1342893529_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg

name=Corporation St

(or perhaps Street rather than St – not sure if we expand road names
when they aren’t being used as road names)

 

The NaPTAN CommonName is perhaps a contender for loc_name

 

Looking at the Birmingham data you might want to consider stop area
relations too. 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstop_area

 

Compare say:

http://osm.org/go/euzMKgzcV-?m

in Birmingham with 

http://osm.org/go/eutJJRRfr--?m

in Oxford (you’ll need to switch to Transport layer as I can’t work
out how to specify transport layer in a shortlink without it getting
the zoom level wrong).

 

Ed

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mystery artwork, Newtown, Birmingham

[Ed Loach]

Andy asked:

 

> Anyone know anything about this artwork:

> 

>
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2499952738

> 

> it's not in any of my books.

 

I don't suppose you have a photo? A quick web search suggests those
houses are on the site of St Matthias' Church, so perhaps it is
something to do with that?

 

http://ahistoryofbirminghamchurches.jimdo.com/birmingham-st-martin-i
n-the-bull-ring/st-matthias-farm-street/

 

Ed

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

[Ed Loach]

I’ve just downloaded this. It looks like it contains Registered
Office address which isn’t necessarily the same as the business
(trading) address – for example where I used to work in Pattingham
used to have a registered office in Dudley (the accountants address,
I understand), and having just checked their entry this is still the
case (the business address is now in Bridgnorth, but the registered
office is still in Dudley).

 

It doesn’t stop the source being used for checking postcodes to
addresses, but I’d be careful about extracting any other information
from it.

 

Ed

 

From: Andrew Mackenzie [mailto:a.macken...@bethere.co.uk] 
Sent: 31 August 2012 11:13
To: Andy Robinson
Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes -
Potential data source

 

Hi all

there is another approach, which is to download the data for all
companies in the UK from Companies House. This became available as
free public data in July.

The full address and postcode is there along with a URI (not the
same as the company number).

I prefer this approach to private house sales because

- companies want to be found

- there isn't a privacy issue from address being matched to other
data to identify individuals  (although that will happen)

- OSM has less complete business listings than Google maps. For SMEs
the company address and business premises will often be the same.

- connecting OSM location data with Open Corporates
http://opencorporates.com/ would enhance both services.

 

The data is listed alphabetically.  Would be useful to group them
geographically and extract the West Midlands addresses. It's not
difficult to extract the column for URIs, which gives the link to
the Companies House web page for the company.

Download the data from
http://download.companieshouse.gov.uk/en_output.html

 

Andrew

 

On 31 Aug 2012, at 10:48, Andy Robinson wrote:





http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/public/information/public-data/price-
paid-dat
a





-Original Message-

From: Big Fat Frog [mailto:bigfatfro...@gmail.com]

Sent: 31 August 2012 10:11

To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org

Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes -
Potential

data



source

 

Have I missed something?  What datasource are you referring to here?

 

Jonathan

 

On 31/08/2012 09:44, Andy Robinson wrote:

In the meantime I'm just downloading the files and filtering in

spreadsheet for my patch (Sutton Coldfield) and then checking/adding

postcode data for the handful of addresses it contains for each
month.

Though this only really works if you have the majority of your

building addressing done for an area.

 

As I'm now adding some postcode data from this source I've added the

required attribution to

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#United_Kingdom

 

Incidentally, what do folks feel about adding any of the other data

from the dataset?:

 

.the full address of the property (Primary addressable object name

(PAON), Secondary addressable object name (SAON), street, postcode,

locality (if available), town, district, county)

 

.the price paid for the property

 

.the date of transfer

 

.the property type (Detached, Semi, Terraced, Flat/Maisonette)

 

.whether the property is new build or not

 

.whether the property is freehold or leasehold.

 

Cheers

 

Andy

 

*From:*Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com]

*Sent:* 31 August 2012 08:27

*To:* Rob Nickerson; talk-gb-westmidlands

*Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes -

Potential data source

 

I'd agree with Rob's logic and extend it to show one of three
results:

postcode missing or postcode incomplete or postcode incorrect. We
have

loads of addresses with only the first group in place e.g B27 and
I'm

sure when we were using codepoint( before we knew it was dodgy in

licensing terms) we chose the wrong break point in address runs.  We

currently have 61272 addresses in the W Mids and 44164 have
postcodes.

 

regards

 

Brian

 

On 30 August 2012 18:35, Rob Nickerson mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 

 

== Matt wrote ==

 

This does indeed seem like a very useful data source. Great find!

 

 

 

However, I'm struggling to think of a nice way of visualising it to

 

make it useful. What I've got so far in my mind is:

 

 - Take an entry from the list

 

 - Take its postcode

 

 - Search for the postcode (I've got a curated list of postcodes as

 

part of my PostCodeFinder [1])

 

 - Get the location of the nearest match (hopefully, we'll find at

 

least a CV4-type segment match)

 

 - Search for roads within an x mile radius with a matching name

 

 - Associate that entry with that road

 

== End Message ==

 

Hi Matt,

I was actually thinking the other way round. That is:

 

Pull in a list of building with addresses but no postcode in OSM
(with

their



way IDs) and see if any match up with the Land Registry addresses.
This

way

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postboxes

[Ed Loach]

Looking at the FOI request:

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/119687/response/296922/attach/
5/attachment.txt

 

Ed

 

From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 03 August 2012 11:37
To: 'Stuart Harrison'; talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postboxes

 

What licence is the data under?

 

Cheers

Andy

 

From: Stuart Harrison [mailto:pezho...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 03 August 2012 11:26
To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postboxes

 

Hi all,

 

Good to see those who came to the social in Coleshill last night. As
I mentioned, I've got the locations of all the postboxes and post
offices in the UK (taken from this FOI request
 ) in Scraperwiki here:

 

https://scraperwiki.com/scrapers/uk_postboxes/

 

(Ignore what it says about the error, all the data is there). If
you're not familiar with Scraperwiki, you can query the data and get
it back in a variety of formats by clicking 'Explore with API'. It's
basically SQL, so if you know what you're doing with SQL, then you
should be good.

 

If anyone wants any pointers, let me know. Will be interested to see
what people do with it!

 

Cheers

 

Stuart

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Walsall-ish

[Ed Loach]

Ok, ta. Must have been half asleep when I went through there, or was getting 
confused with the next roundabout.

Sent from my HTC

-Original Message-
From: Andy Robinson 
Sent: 28 May 2012 22:16
To: 'Ed Loach' ; Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
Subject: RE: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Walsall-ish

Ed, other way around. They removed the roundabout last year and it's now a
multi filter multi traffic light monster. Could do with some more tracks to
clean it up a bit but probably won't ever look perfect till we have new
imagery.

 

Cheers

Andy

 

 

From: Ed Loach [mailto:e...@loach.me.uk] 
Sent: 28 May 2012 10:09
To: Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Walsall-ish


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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Walsall-ish

[Ed Loach]

I drove through this junction yesterday (heading east I filter to
the north to head up towards the A5):

http://osm.org/go/euzSxH0r1--

except, as per the Bing imagery, it is now a roundabout. 

 

If anyone is in the area (which I won't be for months) it could do
with a resurvey.

 

I’ll try and get up-to-date with uploading my gps traces in case
yesterday’s is of any help.

 

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Island House

[Ed Loach]

I was in Wolverhampton last week end, and pointed out a big gap to
my wife saying “that was where I used to go for photocopying”. I
then noticed the building was on OSM, so retagged it by removing the
building tag but adding a note, so no-one is tempted to retrace it.
Really, I should have extended the adjacent car park area too, but
wasn’t paying enough attention to be sure whether it does take in
all the area once occupied by the building or not.

 

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/86886162

 

Ed

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 28 March 2012 20:06
To: Andy Mabbett
Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Island House

 

Hi Andy

 

I'm the guilty party!  I use  this tag regularly to stop the
building being rendered but to denote a previous bdg. I'll add
Landuse=brownfield as suggested

 

Regards

 

Brian

On 28 March 2012 17:51, Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

The much-talked about Island House, in Birmingham's Eastside, is
now, controversially, demolished, and someone has tagged it
'building:demolished=yes'. Is that correct? Or should it be
building=demolished, or some other tag?


 

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: gated alleys aren't roads

[Ed Loach]

Brian quoted Adrian:

> Can you make sure that back alleys are shown as paths and not as
roads, 
> especially where they are behind locked gates and the public has
no access? 

Checking the wiki, highway=service, service=alley *is* a road:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service%3Dalley

I tend to think of an alley as the small footpath between two sets
of fences, so the OSM alley tag isn't appropriate; I tend to use
footway. I have mapped some ways recently that met the alley wiki
page description, but used driveway, so will probably now retag when
I get a moment now I've reread the wiki descriptions.

I think after that the appropriate access tags should be used to say
whether there is access or not.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access

I've not visited the area Adrian mentions to know whether those
alleys are small roads or footpaths.

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Wolverhampton Gritting Routes

[Ed Loach]

I’ll try and help, like I did last time. Is it easiest to check for
changes, or remove old tags and add new?

 

Ed

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 06 February 2012 17:11
To: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Wolverhampton Gritting Routes

 

Hi everyone

 

Wolverhampton City Council comms team have been in touch saying the
gritting routes have been changed . They want to add our map to
their facebook page which has 7000 followers. They say they have a
lively debate going on about gritting.  I've got the new winter
service plan 2011-12 and I've gone through 2 of the 17 routes
checking for accuracy and changes. I estimate it takes about 30
minutes per route. Anyone up for helping with the remaining 15
routes?  Perhaps those of you who helped out originally? If you let
me know I'll get a new wiki page set up. Perhaps a candidate for the
Night of Living Maps tomorrow?

 

I've already alerted Christoph for a new map render (or perhaps we
could make use of Stuart Lester's alternative gritting map?).

 

I've proposed to the contact from Wolverhampton Council that maybe
they could free up one person for me to show them how to edit  and
we just bash through it, but it would be good to show them that we
can move quickly as a community.

 

The Winter Service Plan has also all the grit bin locations, so if
we could complete the routes they could add the grit bins?

 

Regards

 

Brian

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Anyone near Bewdley?

[Ed Loach]

Steve wrote:

> I had previously set Bewdley as the furthest north I would go for
a
> day's
> walk, but am prepared to make an exception in order to close the
> gap. So I
> have planned a circuit that does the Severn Way up to the next
> bridge and
> returns via the Geopark way. Hopefully the weather will be good
> enough to
> get it done in the next month or so.

If the weather is fine on the 14th January I was thinking of making
a slight diversion from my Cheltenham to Wolverhampton journey to
have a break at Bewdley. Let me know if you manage to visit before
then, and if you don't I'll let you know if I manage to get there or
not.

All the best

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK

[Ed Loach]

Andy wrote:

> Such a collection of records would, presumably, be copyright.

Yes, probably. I was really just showing the sort of information
that could be collected in case anyone wanted to allow for similar
items in any tagging schema they come up with.

Ed


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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Wolverhampton bus/railway station

[Ed Loach]

Hi

I just dropped a couple of passengers by car at Wolverhampton
railway station. This is the first time I've been since the
roadworks on the ring road have finished and I now realise they were
adding a bus lane as a new entry to the bus station (not living here
any more I'm a bit out of touch). I see fingerpuppet had already
added most of this lane, and I've added the new shared use
cycle/foot bridge and a bus slip lane from Broad Street this
morning, but I don't think I'm going to have time to give the bus
station a proper survey today (and will be heading back to Clacton
early tomorrow). There is a big new building which also contains the
Sainsburys Local I added as a node, so the whole station (including
bus stop positions and the various lanes between them, looking at
the little line of nodes in the middle) could benefit from a revisit
if anyone local gets chance.

Ed


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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Allotments, open data OpenStreetMap

[Ed Loach]

It does look an interesting project. I did comment on the blog page
(was pending moderation when I last looked) about how Pedro's OSM
map only shows named allotments, as none of the ones I'd mapped
around Clacton (and perhaps not the few I did in Wolverhampton) were
shown. Fortunately the query used at the top of the page made it
clear why, so I've been starting to add the names where I know them.

I thought I'd mention it here in case any of the Birmingham
allotments are mapped, but not appearing on Pedro's map for similar
reasons.

Ed


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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Hockley Brook: relation

[Ed Loach]

Is there a need for a relation in this case? Can't each way just
have the appropriate tags? As it is your name= tag on the relation
uses a different spelling from the name tag on each way.

Ed


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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] FW: [Talk-gb-midanglia] Sandwell Gritting Routes

[Ed Loach]

Ooops – sent to wrong group.

 

Ed

 

From: Ed Loach [mailto:e...@loach.me.uk] 
Sent: 23 October 2011 13:08
To: 'Gareth Illmann-Walker'
Cc: talk-gb-midang...@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell
Gritting Routes

 

I think Brian is quoting Walsall as an example of an authority that
publishes text descriptions of their routes – as far as I can tell

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia/gritting

suggests Walsall has already been done, and you can see the results
on

http://mappa-mercia.org/gritting-map.shtml

Ed

 

From: Gareth Illmann-Walker [mailto:subscr...@illmann-walker.com] 
Sent: 23 October 2011 11:47
To: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell Gritting Routes

 

Hi all,

As I'm a councillor in Walsall and just happened to be on the Winter
Planning Sub-Committee, I'm more than happy to ask for the routes
(for Walsall) on your behalf, can't think of any reason they'd not
give them me.

However as I've been out with the gritters you should note that the
routes start and stop quite a lot so they're not like one continuous
route. This is because there is crossover in terms of the routes the
drivers have to take to get to the roads they actually have to grit.

Gareth

On 22/10/2011 14:55, Brian Prangle wrote: 

Hi everyone 

 

Thanks to Andy Mabbett for showing us where these files are located.
I went to start editing one of the gritting routes today and
discovered that the pdf files are all crown copyright maps derived
from the OS so are in fact useless for our purposes- what we need
are text-based descriptions - ideally the actual routes given to the
gritting drivers as published by Solihull, Wolverhampton and
Walsall; or a list of streets as published by Birmingham

 

Regards

 

Brian





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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Staffs Boundary VC NUMBER 39

[Ed Loach]

The Watsonian Vice Country boundaries are described here:

http://www.nbn.org.uk/Useful-things/Mapping/VCB-page1.aspx

and I received confirmation that now they have switched to the same
licence that the OS use for their Opendata we can use their data
should we want to in the same way we use OS Opendata:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:boundary%3Dvice_county

 

I haven’t added any missing vice counties personally, but have
“completed” any relations that weren’t closed. I have a daily
routine that checks all the boundary relations in the GB extract and
reports on any that are broken. Vice counties get reported on at

http://www.loach.me.uk/osm/boundaries/vice_county.aspx

 

And yes, they don’t render but as they are really for fairly
specialist use I don’t think that’s a bad thing. 

 

Ed

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 26 September 2011 22:59
To: Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Staffs Boundary VC NUMBER 39

 

Hi everyone

 

Came across this while editing in Smethwick with a source of
nbn_opendata . Relation no is 298889. What is it?  It's been edited
by a bot known as xybot- I've contacted the owner and I'm awaiting a
reply. Does anybody know what it is? Whatever it is, it's not
rendering, only shows up in the editors.

 

Regards

 

Brian

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Off-Topic: Question on Historic Road Layout near Whiteheath, Advice

[Ed Loach]

Monika asked:

> A road - this might be the A4034 - built around 40 years ago,
looks
> like
> it was supposed to go to to Blackheath but it only goes to
> Whiteheath:
> there are four lanes from Oldbury, then only two lanes, but the
> traffic
> island had been built, it looks like then the building works
stopped.
> What
> happened?

Have you looked at
http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=A4034
in particular the history section?

Ed


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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Blog post about gritting map

[Ed Loach]

It doesn't mention anyone working on Wolverhampton, though Brian
posted a link to their routes here back in January this year:
http://www.wolverhampton.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/3C13A5B2-8DF3-456B-92C7
-E52BEF728660/0/winter_service_plan.pdf

I was going to add them then, but too many of the roads were still
missing. I hope things have changed since then, but haven't looked
recently.

Ed


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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Completing the Black Country by tracing OSSV

[Ed Loach]

Fine by me. I’ve not had chance to do any more recently (since
Christmas, perhaps) and don’t know when I’ll get chance (we’re
passing through mid-May but doubt I’ll have time to go out mapping).
I’m currently using OSSV to draw building outlines in Clacton where
I previously surveyed house numbers, and then resurveying to double
check which outlines are semidetached and which detached, as my
waypoints alone aren’t always clear enough alone. Oh, and I’ve got
to finish preparing a presentation about OSM for Saturday in Witham
(Essex). So won’t have time to help with any tracing for some time.

 

I did trace the houses in Wolverhampton by West Park where my
parents live, numbered them from memory and then got my mum to pop
out and check the numbers either end of the row were correct. I was
also tempted to do the same for where I used to live in Perton, but
couldn’t remember the number I used to live at and need to look it
up before tracing there…

 

Ed

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 20 April 2010 10:05
To: Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org; Ed Loach
Subject: Completing the Black Country by tracing OSSV

 

Hi everyone

Andy and I reckon it would be great to complete the Black Country
taking advantage of the data available to us from OSSV. I'm going to
tidy up the wiki at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia/Black_Country#Introd
uction updating the tables showing completion ( this might take a
couple of days as  there's over 200 slices - any help appreciated!).
If everyone is up for this you can then take a slice and annotate
the notes section that you're using OSSV tracing and obviously fill
in the column when you've completed it. That way we will have a
record of what needs to be surveyed when anyone is up for actually
going there and surveying on the ground. We can also use OSM Mapper
of course to track OSSV edits

Ed - how do you feel about us making our initial effort in
Wolverhampton?

Regards

Brian

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Kidderminster this saturday - meeting place?

[Ed Loach]

Andy wrote:

> "The King & Castle" is right next to Kidderminster railway
> station. Parking
> may not be free (but not a problem for those on two wheels or
> foot)

Looks to be £2 on a Saturday (daily rate):

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/kid/details.html

Ed


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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] OS StreetView tracing vs surveying

[Ed Loach]

Mary asked:

> On another point.  I have mapped two electricity sub stations, 
> one near home using my GPS handheld, and a second near work 
> using my Android tracker.  Neither have appeared on the map.  Why?

Have you mapped them as a node or as an area? I've mapped a few near here as 
nodes, and they don't render as far as I know, but have mapped some as areas 
from Yahoo imagery in the USA and they do show.

But it's up to who uses the OSM data what they choose to display and if Mapnik 
were to show everything it would look overly cluttered. I've mapped loads of 
benches and bins for dog waste for example, which would be useful if someone 
wanted to do a map of sea front walks near me (Clacton), but they don't render 
on Mapnik either, and I think it looks better for not doing so (now if we could 
go to zoom level 20...). 

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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] FW: Emailing tweet from: citizensheep (Michael Grimes)

[Ed Loach]

At the risk that those involved are already on this list and you
might all know about it already, someone has just forwarded the
following Tweet to me via email. I'm 200 odd miles away so can't
make it, but I pass it on in case it is of any interest.

Ed

-Original Message-
Sent: 12 April 2010 07:38
To: Ed Loach
Subject: Emailing tweet from: citizensheep (Michael Grimes)

citizensheep: If you're interested in finding out more about
Ordnance
Survey's release of data, join us at @MoseleyExchange tonight:
http://bit.ly/9HzsrB
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/citizensheep/status/12033361563

Sent via TweetDeck (www.tweetdeck.com)



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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] M42, J6

[Ed Loach]

Andy wrote:

> It's an odd configuration. The A45 goes over the
> M42 and there
> are bridges for the roundabout on the north and south (over
> M42) and west
> (over A45) but not on the east side. On the east side the A45
> is on a bridge
> over the roundabout.

So the A45 goes under the roundabout at the west side and over it at
the east side? That is odd. Presumably one or other parts of the
junction isn't very level. 

Unfortunately I came from M42 heading south and took slip onto
Eastway following signs to NEC (so got caught in show traffic;
quicker would have been to actually go onto the roundabout and
around to Pendigo Way as I was heading for the Crowne Plaza) -
leaving I went straight from Pendigo Way back onto the M42 so didn't
really see much of the junction. Thanks for clarifying...

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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] M42, J6

[Ed Loach]

I didn't notice this until I got back, but this roundabout looks a bit wrong:
http://osm.org/go/euzhlOxF_-

The Coventry Road seems to go over one side of the roundabout and under the 
other, but I'm fairly certain both are fairly level.

Perhaps someone who knows the junction could have a look?

Ed



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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Coverage as at end 2009

[Ed Loach]

Having been mapping some more of NW Wolverhampton over the last few
days, these figures are probably already outdated, but thought I’d
add them to Brian’s list (thanks Brian for drawing my attention to
Peter’s posting).

 


Name

Area km2

DfT total

OSM total

Coverage


Wolverhampton City Council

69.4

787.6

507

64.40%

 

Ed

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lug Radio Live - How about a mapping party??

[Ed Loach]

> We therefore have three options.
> 
> 1. To still do it but use an external venue (I'll do the talk
> at LUGRadio
> live at 3pm)
> 2. To move the mapping to Sunday and tie in with oggcamp. There
> will be
> plenty from LUGRadio live who are going to oggcamp and if I
> broadcast our
> attendance on the Saturday we should get a good crowd.
> 3. Do both of the above.
> 
> Thoughts?

As I mentioned in a previous post, I'll be mapping some of
Wolverhampton on Saturday that weekend anyway (well Saturday,
arranged around family visits - concentrating on west and northwest
Wolverhampton as marked on the Black Country cake wiki page).
Fitting in the family visits means I can't really commit to mapping
party meet ups, but would like to try and make the effort at least
at the end of Saturday (if any other mapping happens) as if I do
make good progress on Saturday I'd not want to risk mapping
somewhere on Sunday that someone else traced on Saturday. 

Sunday my plans are still unclear, except that I need to get home
and hope to map somewhere on the way (either Wolverhampton before
leaving, a bit of Cambridgeshire that they're trying to complete as
I pass through, or more of an estate on the outskirts of Colchester
while I'm passing).

Ed



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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Birmingham/Solihull 1:25, 000 Out Of Copyright mapping now available

[Ed Loach]

> As a follow up, I've now also added the sheet to the NE of
> Wolverhampton.
> 
> Looks a totally different place without the motorways!

Oxley and Bushbury look useful though; some of those areas are
already mapped but I think there is more still to do there.
Unfortunately there are also many new roads in the last 50 years as
well.

Ed



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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Black Country Cake

[Ed Loach]

Hi all,

It feels a bit like trespassing as I now live in Essex (although lived in 
Wolverhampton for 30 years up to 2000 and visit regularly), but it was 
suggested I mention on this list that I've revised the Black Country Cake page 
on the wiki[1] a bit.

Rather than just have the 8 maps that were there previously, I have created 4 
new maps covering each council area and linked to the previous maps as 
"close-ups" below each. As they cover a larger area the 600px versions on the 
page look a bit small but I think the numbers are just about visible. I find 
the full resolution looks quite good printed on an A4 page though.

In the progress section I have currently added a new column for the area each 
slice is in, and made the table sortable. I was planning on splitting the table 
by council area to correspond to the 4 new maps, but some slices cover a border 
and I wasn't sure what to do about those (Blackadder suggested adding them to 
both tables with suitable note). I also added the missing rows so all cake 
slices have a row now. I may yet split the table by area - it should help see 
how each of the individual areas are progressing, and if you find yourselves in 
one of those areas with some free time identify what needs doing a little 
quicker

The information about the West Bromwich mapping party I also moved to it's own 
page to make the cake page a bit more manageable.

What got me looking at the page is I plan to be in Wolverhampton the weekend 
after next and was trying to work out which area(s) to look at while there, and 
have marked the slices I intend to try and get done on the page - concentrating 
mainly on the area south of the railway line in the northeast corner of 
Wolverhampton without bothering yet about the bits in South Staffordshire (i.e. 
mainly Tettenhall and bits either side).

I also noticed on the Mappa Mercia page[2] that "the Midlands group" will be in 
Wolverhampton that weekend, so didn't want to risk double mapping the same 
areas.

Ed

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia/Black_Country
(shortened form http://is.gd/4jjuJ )
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia




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