Thanks for the replies so far, anyone else want to gibe an opinion? To address
some of the points:
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:10:12 +
From: Andrew McCarthy m...@andrewmccarthy.ie This junction, for instance:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/53.0881/-7.1769
It would be odd to have all of L3930 marked as tertiary while L39307
and L39306 are unclassified, especially since L39307 is now the main
road.
- Some roads change for no obvious reason:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/53.0606/-7.2616
The L2133 becomes the L6139 and then the L2133 again. From a driver's
point of view it's a single continuous road. Having an isolated bit of
unclassified in the middle makes no sense.
Certainly some good examples there but I could say the same thing about Dublin
inside the M50.
The former N11 (R138) from Mount Merrion to Donnybrook is better than a lot of
national primary
routes but is still (correctly) marked as an R road:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/53.3095/-6.2129 .
So Dublin has a dual carriage-way with the same importance as Ailesbury Road, a
narrow road
with speed bumps.
I'm not against the idea of having routable roads but I think it should be done
as part of
a different tag.
Refs in the form L1234-1 are used, behind the scenes, by councils to
indicate subsections of the local road L1234. Yes, I did read this on the
wiki (thanks for the detailed information). What I'm talking about is the ref
tag.
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 00:36:42 +
From: Ken Guest kgu...@php.net
...
Changing the tagging of roads based on an arbitrary reason such as an
assigned L ref value where we presume there is a consistent scheme applied
to it is mindless. Not all [county] councils assigned values based on the
quality of the road, I know of at least one where the assigned value is
based on the electoral division that the road is in.
Would you agree that L1000-4999 are called local primary and L5000- are
called local secondary by all county councils?
Changing the tagging of anything based on the self-perceived notion that
you know better where in actual fact you might not, is little more than
mindless vandalism. Good intentions or not. This is why I hope you are
looking for advice first, here and now, before you change anything based on
your gut feel.
Or another way of looking at could be that I'm undoing the vandalism caused by
other users. The OSM wiki states tertiary as The next most important roads in
a country's system. - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway
Like I said I didn't intentionally undo anyone's work. How exactly does the
current system work, how do I know if I'm on someone's patch, what if I don't
agree with their observations on which road is better?
Ground Truth requires that you map it as you see it, not as how you wish
you saw it.
Please don't remove hyphens from where you think they don't belong and add
them to where you want them. There are enough standards without making up
more - or I suppose you could say people get confused easily enough without
adding reformatting into the mix.So I should change the R138 back to the N11?
That's what I saw on the sign today.
Dafo
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