Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Cert in GIS LIT
Hi Brian, As you know , we are ready to roll in Birr witha mapplication and this would be a founding piece of work in community advancement relative to GIS and mapplication work. We never did catch up after last time. Lets do that All the best, Eimhin On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Brian O'Hare wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm starting to teach a Cert In GIS at LIT this week. I'd like to involve > the students (13 of them) in the townland mapping project and wanted to get > in touch in advance to get peoples thoughts on this. I think it could be a > very valuable exercise for the students and hopefully would help out with > the project effort as well. Please let me know of any thoughts, objections, > considerations etc... > > many thanks, > > Brian O'Hare > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Formalising Openstreetmap Ireland into a proper body and becoming an official OSM Chapter
Thiis is great stuff, keep it up. It would be good if you would link with other groups who are working on the shift in general http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/conditions-for-the-next-long-wave/2009/05/28 Mapping is a huge part of this. There is a meeting re: the founding of a software and tech cooperative here in Birr co.offaly this weekend. Saturday-Sunday. If anyone here is interested send on a message. and in P.S: it would be nice if you replied to mails that people send to you re: doing stuff and things relative to the wider world in future. Latency and social change and all... :) Eimhin On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Rory McCann wrote: > Totally in favour of this. This is a great idea. Unincorporated > Association should be fine. TOG is an Unincorporated association and it has > lasers. > > The only "openstreetmap world" body would be the openstreetmap foundation, > and I think they'd rather local groups use local chapters, rather than get > the osmf to do everything. So we can't just use them 😉 > > Rory > > On 2 October 2014 22:22:38 CEST, Dave Corley wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I did state one con, that there's a bit of work involved ;) but other > >than > >that I don't see there being any con's to this (I stand open to > >correction). > > > >> What's the benefit of having our own entity as opposed to proxying > >behind > >the general "OpenStreetMap world" entity ? > > > >I possibly didn't explain it very well. To "proxy" as you put it, we > >have > >to be a formal entity in the first place. > > > >The Local Chapter Agreement was kicked back into gear and recently > >finalised. You can view the completed agreement here [1] > > > >This agreement, which would be signed by both our group and the OSMF > >and > >lends a weight of support behind us when we go to various govt. > >agencies > >looking for data and/or maps. > > > >> What exactly is required to get the legal organisation going ? A > >treasurer > >and a president ? A bank account ? Recurring paperwork ? A postal > >address ? > >Do we want to set up board elections ? Membership fees ? > > > >Essentially, all of the above and more. It breaks into a few phases, > >first > >to get the organisation going, then later the legal status, but I > >wouldn't > >see us getting to the legal recognition for at least the first 2 years > >if > >not more as there are a number of other things to be completed first. > > > >Personally, this is how I would see things going. > > > >We would start out as an Unincorporated Association, the same as most > >sports clubs basically. The bare minimum we would need is a > >constitution > >and a membership. More info here [2] > > > >At this point we would have the structure in place to go further. By > >going > >further, I mean drafting and agreeing Memorandum & Articles of > >Association. > >These would qualify us to put in a formal application to become an OSMF > >chapter. There are a few other bits needed (accounts etc.), but those > >are > >the 2 big ones and the ones hardest to put together. I spoke with Simon > >Poole this evening just to clarify this point and in his opinion once > >we're > >at this point in the process we would qualify to apply for local > >chapter > >status. > > > >As we have the work done (MoA & AoA) the next step would be to apply > >for > >charitable status under the definition of "other purposes beneficial to > >the > >community". There are a number of additional documents to be drawn up > >in > >addition to complete this, but the bulk will have been done at this > >stage > >from earlier activities. > > > >This would allow us to accept sponsorship for events (e.g. a company > >sponsoring the food at a hackathon), hardware donations (servers), > >donations in general etc. > > > >I hope this answers everything. If anyone else has any queries, feel > >free > >to share also. > > > >It would be good to hear more opinions on this, even if its just > >something > >as simple as "yeah this sound good" or "hate this idea" or etc. :) > > > >Thanks, > >Dave > > > >1 - > >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/Agreement > >2 - http://www.wheel.ie/content/unincorporated-bodies > > > > > > > >On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:05 PM, moltonel 3x Combo > >wrote: > > > >> On 01/10/2014, Dave Corley wrote: > >> > Something I've been thinking about for a while now, is that we > >should > >> look > >> > to forming into a proper entity i.e. an official OpenStreetMap > >Ireland > >> > chapter of OSM. > >> > [...] > >> > >> You've only given a list of pros, so it's hard to disagree :p In > >> general it sounds like a good idea. Some questions and potential > >> concerns below: > >> > >> What's the benefit of having our own entity as opposed to proxying > >> behind the general "OpenStreetMap world" entity ? > >> > >> What exactly is required to get the legal organisation going ? A > >> treasurer and a president ? A bank account ? Recurring paperwork ? A > >> postal address ? Do we want to set up bo
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Downloading by overpass API or XAPI data internal to a county
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/introducing-the-mapping-all-alternatives-project/2014/04/02 RE: the event in September in Ireland. It will be a node of this process. Again I am appealing to the group for anyone interested in this kind of application of what you are doing. If you are up for particiipating let me know. :) Eimhin On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Donal Diamond wrote: > overpass is the way to go it is _very_ powerful. > > Here's an example that will download all county,townland, barony and civil > parish boundaries in County Carlow > > 1) Go to the ireland-only overpass turbo with my pre-baked query: > http://url.ie/rl4a > 2) Press Run > 3) It will return 6MB of data - press 'continue anyway' > 4) Download josm compatiable osm > a) go to Export menu > b) right click on "raw data directly from Overpass API' and select > "Save Link As" and save as something.osm > 5) Load in josm/maperative/qgis etc > > Hope this helps. > > D > > > > > > > On 20 May 2014 14:46, Donal Diamond wrote: > > > Do you want to download ALL data inside a county or just want an osm file > > with just the county,barony, civil parish and townlands boundaries inside > > that county? > > > > D > > > > > > On 20 May 2014 08:42, Brian Hollinshead wrote: > > > >> Last year using Maperitive I created a page with the Townlands, Civil > >> Parishes and Baronies of County Carlow. with no detail outside the > >> county.Will bring a copy on Sunday. Not knowing how else to, and as a > one > >> off, I slowly over a morning added pieces to a Josm file and then > >> painfully weeded the edges! > >> > >> Now hope to do the same for Longford and Wexford when they are intact > but > >> hope someone can explain to me how to download the data, internal to a > >> county, using either overpass API or XAPI. > >> > >> I do remember seeing 'as_in' somewhere but cannot remember the > context. > >> > >> I have since tampered with my maperitive file so that although is still > >> draws the borders I have lost the ability to print a townland/civil > >> parish/barony name within the outlined area. Maybe someone familiar with > >> Maperitive might have time on Sunday to look at my rules file please. > >> > >> bye for now > >> ___ > >> Talk-ie mailing list > >> Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > >> > > > > > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] New Facebook Group for OSM-IE
Thanks Rory, Just joined and will continue the conversation over there. Anything actionable there that wouldn't reach folks back here I will make a point of redirecting back through this channel for the non-facebook crew. Good call, :) Eimhin On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Rory McCann wrote: > Hi all, > > I created a Facebook Group for OpenStreetMap in Ireland: > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/295947493906276/ > > I know some people are more comfortable using that than mailing lists etc, > so I thought we could add that as a communication / community tool. :) Feel > free to join it or ignore it. > > Any questions, etc as me. > > Rory > > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Railways
hi all, my name is Eimhin, I work with the P2P Foundation and am coorganizing an event in September this year bringing together members of the new cooperative movement (open cooperativism) together with members of the Irish cooperative and grassroots community to share models and strategies for resilient community growth in Ireland. In the past I have worked with the folk from Netention.js another GIS with semantic layers, my background is In philosophy and critical theory and I have a thing for mapplication based software. At this event we hope to do a bit of mapping and I'm here to find out if this particular work appeals to anyone in this community who might be inntereted in having a conversation about where we might take this. I am an open-everything type, working with the theory and practice of creating social and environmental solutions to convergent crisis through non-coercive means and by intelligent design of license strategies...among other things. There is no commercial angle to this. It would be great to hear from someone here on the island working with OSM who would be prepared to consider how this might be used to facilitate the emergence of a bottom up networked movement. Many thanks, Eimhin On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Colm Moore wrote: > Hi all, > > I've done a fair bit on railways over the last month. However, there are > some changes I can't edit with the ID editor. > > * Railway status (open / closed) is ~98% complete. > * Railway electrification is ~99.99% complete, but voltage and current is > only ~95% complete. > * Gauge is ~99% complete. > * Number of tracks is perhaps 10% complete, but as much wrong as right. > * Passenger rail - confused > * Railway operator - confused > > If anyone can fix them or show me how to fix them, I would be grateful. > > Thank you > > Colm > > > > Railway status (I can fix this, but I want people's opinions) > * Antrim-Lisburn has no scheduled service, but sees occasional passenger > service when other routes aren't available (maintenance, bomb scares). > Recommendation "Rail" (change of status), but any stations marked as > "Closed" > * Rosslare Strand-Belview Port (Waterford) has no scheduled service, but > is available for use, but only maintenance trains run on it. Recommendation > "Disused Rail" (no change of status) > > > > Railway Electrification - Voltage and current needing setting > > Luas - 750 V DC, Hz = 0 > DART - 1500 V DC, Hz = 0 > > > http://www.itoworld.com/map/172?lon=-6.27634&lat=53.29345&zoom=10&fullscreen=true > > * Luas Red - Tallaght, Red Cow depot, Busarás-Connolly-George's Dock > * Luas Green - Sandyford depot > * DART - Malahide, Howth Junction-Connolly (including Fairview and > Connolly sidings), Pearse-Grand Canal Dock (including sidings), > Shankill-Bray (including sidings) (2), Greystones (2) > * Irish Rail - Portlaoise (bridge north-east of station) - shouldn't be > electrified. > > > > Railway Gauge - > > > http://www.itoworld.com/map/159?lon=-7.24177&lat=52.79585&zoom=9&fullscreen=true > > Bord na Móna - Littleton, Tipperary - should be 914mm gauge. > > > > Number of tracks > > > http://www.itoworld.com/map/14?lon=-6.31548&lat=53.36544&zoom=13&fullscreen=true > > All single except: > Irish Rail - Stations, depots, yards, sidings, passing loops > Irish Rail - Dublin Heuston-Cork-Cobh > Irish Rail - Limerick area > Irish Rail - Bray-Dublin-Dundalk-border with Northern Ireland > Irish Rail - Howth Branch > Irish Rail - Dublin Connolly-Maynooth > Irish Rail - Dublin Heuston-Dublin Connolly-Dublin Port > Irish Rail - Dunboyne branch > NIR - Stations, depots, yards, sidings, passing loops > NIR - Bangor-Belfast Central-Great Victoria Street-Newry-border with > Republic of Ireland > NIR - Belfast Yorkgate - Downshire (on Larne line) > > > > Passenger rail > > > http://www.itoworld.com/map/171?lon=-7.55582&lat=53.32851&zoom=8&fullscreen=true > > * Irish Rail - 100% passenger rail except depots, yards, sidings, disused > lines, Dublin Port - Dublin Connolly-Dublin Heuston, Drogheda-Navan, > Waterford-Belview Port (Waterford). > * NIR - 100% passenger rail except depots, yards, sidings. > * Luas - 100% passenger rail except depots, yards, sidings. Additional > track under construction. > * Bushmills Railway, narrow gauge, but passenger only. > * Bord na Móna, narrow gauge, but freight only. Passengers service has > ended. > * The rails at Harland & Wolff are crane rails. > * There a re small few heritage railways. > > > > Railway operator > > > http://www.itoworld.com/map/248?lon=-6.54439&lat=53.27662&zoom=9&fullscreen=true > >
