Thiis is great stuff, keep it up. It would be good if you would link with other groups who are working on the shift in general http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/conditions-for-the-next-long-wave/2009/05/28
Mapping is a huge part of this. There is a meeting re: the founding of a software and tech cooperative here in Birr co.offaly this weekend. Saturday-Sunday. If anyone here is interested send on a message. and in P.S: it would be nice if you replied to mails that people send to you re: doing stuff and things relative to the wider world in future. Latency and social change and all... :) Eimhin On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org> wrote: > Totally in favour of this. This is a great idea. Unincorporated > Association should be fine. TOG is an Unincorporated association and it has > lasers. > > The only "openstreetmap world" body would be the openstreetmap foundation, > and I think they'd rather local groups use local chapters, rather than get > the osmf to do everything. So we can't just use them 😉 > > Rory > > On 2 October 2014 22:22:38 CEST, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I did state one con, that there's a bit of work involved ;) but other > >than > >that I don't see there being any con's to this (I stand open to > >correction). > > > >> What's the benefit of having our own entity as opposed to proxying > >behind > >the general "OpenStreetMap world" entity ? > > > >I possibly didn't explain it very well. To "proxy" as you put it, we > >have > >to be a formal entity in the first place. > > > >The Local Chapter Agreement was kicked back into gear and recently > >finalised. You can view the completed agreement here [1] > > > >This agreement, which would be signed by both our group and the OSMF > >and > >lends a weight of support behind us when we go to various govt. > >agencies > >looking for data and/or maps. > > > >> What exactly is required to get the legal organisation going ? A > >treasurer > >and a president ? A bank account ? Recurring paperwork ? A postal > >address ? > >Do we want to set up board elections ? Membership fees ? > > > >Essentially, all of the above and more. It breaks into a few phases, > >first > >to get the organisation going, then later the legal status, but I > >wouldn't > >see us getting to the legal recognition for at least the first 2 years > >if > >not more as there are a number of other things to be completed first. > > > >Personally, this is how I would see things going..... > > > >We would start out as an Unincorporated Association, the same as most > >sports clubs basically. The bare minimum we would need is a > >constitution > >and a membership. More info here [2] > > > >At this point we would have the structure in place to go further. By > >going > >further, I mean drafting and agreeing Memorandum & Articles of > >Association. > >These would qualify us to put in a formal application to become an OSMF > >chapter. There are a few other bits needed (accounts etc.), but those > >are > >the 2 big ones and the ones hardest to put together. I spoke with Simon > >Poole this evening just to clarify this point and in his opinion once > >we're > >at this point in the process we would qualify to apply for local > >chapter > >status. > > > >As we have the work done (MoA & AoA) the next step would be to apply > >for > >charitable status under the definition of "other purposes beneficial to > >the > >community". There are a number of additional documents to be drawn up > >in > >addition to complete this, but the bulk will have been done at this > >stage > >from earlier activities. > > > >This would allow us to accept sponsorship for events (e.g. a company > >sponsoring the food at a hackathon), hardware donations (servers), > >donations in general etc. > > > >I hope this answers everything. If anyone else has any queries, feel > >free > >to share also. > > > >It would be good to hear more opinions on this, even if its just > >something > >as simple as "yeah this sound good" or "hate this idea" or etc. :) > > > >Thanks, > >Dave > > > >1 - > >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/Agreement > >2 - http://www.wheel.ie/content/unincorporated-bodies > > > > > > > >On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:05 PM, moltonel 3x Combo <molto...@gmail.com> > >wrote: > > > >> On 01/10/2014, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Something I've been thinking about for a while now, is that we > >should > >> look > >> > to forming into a proper entity i.e. an official OpenStreetMap > >Ireland > >> > chapter of OSM. > >> > [...] > >> > >> You've only given a list of pros, so it's hard to disagree :p In > >> general it sounds like a good idea. Some questions and potential > >> concerns below: > >> > >> What's the benefit of having our own entity as opposed to proxying > >> behind the general "OpenStreetMap world" entity ? > >> > >> What exactly is required to get the legal organisation going ? A > >> treasurer and a president ? A bank account ? Recurring paperwork ? A > >> postal address ? Do we want to set up board elections ? Membership > >> fees ? I have a fair idea of what is needed for such an association > >in > >> France, but I don't know about Ireland. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Talk-ie mailing list > >> Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >Talk-ie mailing list > >Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > _______________________________________________ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
