Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

2020-04-28 Thread John Kennedy
Good stuff Brian.

Just looking at Cork Airport, it appears that when overpass looks for Civil
parishes inside area["name"="Diocese of Cloyne"] it includes Cork Airport
civil parish for some reason. This may be a limitation of how overpass or
underlying technologies calculate geospatial queries - possibly based on
civil parish centroids, approximation of diocese area by concave hulls etc.
rather than precise polygon boundary definitions.

I won't investigate further but I guess key point is it is always worth
checking overpass query results visually for accuracy too.

Cheerio
 - John



On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 14:46, Brian Hollinshead 
wrote:

> John and Donal, This made it so easy. In under eleven minutes I loaded all
> 87 civil parishes into Josm and Excluding the four in Ardfert, there was
> one duplicate name, selected the 83 I wanted, the downloaded all the
> members, then using John's select the dissolved members I created a new
> Diocese of Cork relation, changed the three enclaves from outer to inner ,
> uploaded the file and sat back. So much easier than any other method.
> many thanks for your interest.
>
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:30, John Kennedy  wrote:
>
> > Hi Brian.
> > Does this work?
> >
> > https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TnN
> >
> > I attempt to gather all CPs in Cork.
> > Then all CPs in the mapped dioceses.
> > Then take the difference.
> >
> > But I just query by area name - this could be tightened further.
> >
> > Rgds/
> >  - John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 09:20, Brian Hollinshead 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Donal,
> > > Thanks for having a go at that overpass query. Your offer showed the
> > > Diocese of Ardfert which has perhaps six Cork civil parishes. I had not
> > > included it in my enquiry for fear of complicating it further.
> > >
> > > If you run overpass, include all County Cork on screen and use wizard:
> > > boundary=historic_diocese, the resultant white space is the Diocese of
> > Cork
> > > (1837)  from which i wish to load all the civil parishes into JOSM for
> > > further progress.
> > >
> > > For anyone new to this conversation that is : all the civil parishes in
> > > County cork not already mapped in OSM as parts or all of the Dioceses
> of
> > > Ardfert and Aghadoe, Cloyne or Ross. (as boundary=historic_diocese)
> > >
> > > Further suggestions from anyone more familiar with overpass than I am
> > will
> > > be most welcome.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 00:17, Donal Hunt 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Brian,
> > > >
> > > > I tried to take a stab at this but overpass got the better of me!!
> > > >
> > > > Here is what I've got so far: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Tn4
> > > >
> > > > This will give you an area excluding the two diocese relations you
> > > > mentioned. I think you either need to do a map_to_area or a Recurse
> > > up/down
> > > > relations function after that but I can't wrap my head around that
> part
> > > and
> > > > there are few examples that explain it well enough...
> > > >
> > > > Also - in hindsight, my query result only returns other diocesan
> areas
> > > that
> > > > are not Ross / Cloyne. There are obviously parts of Cork that aren't
> > > > contained within a diocesan area right now.
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully one of the overpass gurus here will put us out of our
> > misery!!
> > > =)
> > > >
> > > > Donal
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:38 PM Brian Hollinshead <
> > br...@hollinshead.net
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne, Cork
> > and
> > > > > Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese to
> > OSM.
> > > > > Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes into
> > > JOSM.
> > > > > Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
> > > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
> > > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember
> that
> > > > > boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
> > > > > Thanks
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > OpenStreetMap Ireland
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

2020-04-28 Thread Brian Hollinshead
John and Donal, This made it so easy. In under eleven minutes I loaded all
87 civil parishes into Josm and Excluding the four in Ardfert, there was
one duplicate name, selected the 83 I wanted, the downloaded all the
members, then using John's select the dissolved members I created a new
Diocese of Cork relation, changed the three enclaves from outer to inner ,
uploaded the file and sat back. So much easier than any other method.
many thanks for your interest.

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:30, John Kennedy  wrote:

> Hi Brian.
> Does this work?
>
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TnN
>
> I attempt to gather all CPs in Cork.
> Then all CPs in the mapped dioceses.
> Then take the difference.
>
> But I just query by area name - this could be tightened further.
>
> Rgds/
>  - John
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 09:20, Brian Hollinshead 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Donal,
> > Thanks for having a go at that overpass query. Your offer showed the
> > Diocese of Ardfert which has perhaps six Cork civil parishes. I had not
> > included it in my enquiry for fear of complicating it further.
> >
> > If you run overpass, include all County Cork on screen and use wizard:
> > boundary=historic_diocese, the resultant white space is the Diocese of
> Cork
> > (1837)  from which i wish to load all the civil parishes into JOSM for
> > further progress.
> >
> > For anyone new to this conversation that is : all the civil parishes in
> > County cork not already mapped in OSM as parts or all of the Dioceses of
> > Ardfert and Aghadoe, Cloyne or Ross. (as boundary=historic_diocese)
> >
> > Further suggestions from anyone more familiar with overpass than I am
> will
> > be most welcome.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 00:17, Donal Hunt 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Brian,
> > >
> > > I tried to take a stab at this but overpass got the better of me!!
> > >
> > > Here is what I've got so far: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Tn4
> > >
> > > This will give you an area excluding the two diocese relations you
> > > mentioned. I think you either need to do a map_to_area or a Recurse
> > up/down
> > > relations function after that but I can't wrap my head around that part
> > and
> > > there are few examples that explain it well enough...
> > >
> > > Also - in hindsight, my query result only returns other diocesan areas
> > that
> > > are not Ross / Cloyne. There are obviously parts of Cork that aren't
> > > contained within a diocesan area right now.
> > >
> > > Hopefully one of the overpass gurus here will put us out of our
> misery!!
> > =)
> > >
> > > Donal
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:38 PM Brian Hollinshead <
> br...@hollinshead.net
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne, Cork
> and
> > > > Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese to
> OSM.
> > > > Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes into
> > JOSM.
> > > > Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
> > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
> > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember that
> > > > boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > ___
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> > > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
> > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > OpenStreetMap Ireland
> > > donal.h...@openstreetmap.ie | +353 87 8175123
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

2020-04-28 Thread Brian Hollinshead
John,
All civil parishes show if you run boundary=civil_parish in Overpass.

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 13:04, John Kennedy  wrote:

> Cool. Yep, I was lucky spotted the difference description:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL#Difference
>
> Brian, I just noticed that Cork Airport and nearby are not highlighted in
> the results...maybe the civil parish definitions are missing/broken in
> those areas.
> Rgds/
>  - John.
>
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:52, Brian Hollinshead 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> > That is great thank you. It does include the four parishes from Diocese
> of
> > Ardfert but I can cope the that. I did not want all the Cloyne Parishes
> in
> > Cork County lest there would be duplicate names.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:30, John Kennedy  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Brian.
> > > Does this work?
> > >
> > > https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TnN
> > >
> > > I attempt to gather all CPs in Cork.
> > > Then all CPs in the mapped dioceses.
> > > Then take the difference.
> > >
> > > But I just query by area name - this could be tightened further.
> > >
> > > Rgds/
> > >  - John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 09:20, Brian Hollinshead  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Donal,
> > > > Thanks for having a go at that overpass query. Your offer showed the
> > > > Diocese of Ardfert which has perhaps six Cork civil parishes. I had
> not
> > > > included it in my enquiry for fear of complicating it further.
> > > >
> > > > If you run overpass, include all County Cork on screen and use
> wizard:
> > > > boundary=historic_diocese, the resultant white space is the Diocese
> of
> > > Cork
> > > > (1837)  from which i wish to load all the civil parishes into JOSM
> for
> > > > further progress.
> > > >
> > > > For anyone new to this conversation that is : all the civil parishes
> in
> > > > County cork not already mapped in OSM as parts or all of the Dioceses
> > of
> > > > Ardfert and Aghadoe, Cloyne or Ross. (as boundary=historic_diocese)
> > > >
> > > > Further suggestions from anyone more familiar with overpass than I am
> > > will
> > > > be most welcome.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 00:17, Donal Hunt <
> donal.h...@openstreetmap.ie>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Brian,
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to take a stab at this but overpass got the better of me!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is what I've got so far: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Tn4
> > > > >
> > > > > This will give you an area excluding the two diocese relations you
> > > > > mentioned. I think you either need to do a map_to_area or a Recurse
> > > > up/down
> > > > > relations function after that but I can't wrap my head around that
> > part
> > > > and
> > > > > there are few examples that explain it well enough...
> > > > >
> > > > > Also - in hindsight, my query result only returns other diocesan
> > areas
> > > > that
> > > > > are not Ross / Cloyne. There are obviously parts of Cork that
> aren't
> > > > > contained within a diocesan area right now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully one of the overpass gurus here will put us out of our
> > > misery!!
> > > > =)
> > > > >
> > > > > Donal
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:38 PM Brian Hollinshead <
> > > br...@hollinshead.net
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne,
> Cork
> > > and
> > > > > > Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese
> to
> > > OSM.
> > > > > > Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes
> into
> > > > JOSM.
> > > > > > Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
> > > > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
> > > > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember
> > that
> > > > > > boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > ___
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> > > > > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
> > > > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Donal Hunt
> > > > > OpenStreetMap Ireland
> > > > > donal.h...@openstreetmap.ie | +353 87 8175123
> > > > > ___
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

2020-04-28 Thread John Kennedy
Cool. Yep, I was lucky spotted the difference description:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL#Difference

Brian, I just noticed that Cork Airport and nearby are not highlighted in
the results...maybe the civil parish definitions are missing/broken in
those areas.
Rgds/
 - John.

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:52, Brian Hollinshead 
wrote:

> Hi John,
> That is great thank you. It does include the four parishes from Diocese of
> Ardfert but I can cope the that. I did not want all the Cloyne Parishes in
> Cork County lest there would be duplicate names.
>
> Regards
>
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:30, John Kennedy  wrote:
>
> > Hi Brian.
> > Does this work?
> >
> > https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TnN
> >
> > I attempt to gather all CPs in Cork.
> > Then all CPs in the mapped dioceses.
> > Then take the difference.
> >
> > But I just query by area name - this could be tightened further.
> >
> > Rgds/
> >  - John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 09:20, Brian Hollinshead 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Donal,
> > > Thanks for having a go at that overpass query. Your offer showed the
> > > Diocese of Ardfert which has perhaps six Cork civil parishes. I had not
> > > included it in my enquiry for fear of complicating it further.
> > >
> > > If you run overpass, include all County Cork on screen and use wizard:
> > > boundary=historic_diocese, the resultant white space is the Diocese of
> > Cork
> > > (1837)  from which i wish to load all the civil parishes into JOSM for
> > > further progress.
> > >
> > > For anyone new to this conversation that is : all the civil parishes in
> > > County cork not already mapped in OSM as parts or all of the Dioceses
> of
> > > Ardfert and Aghadoe, Cloyne or Ross. (as boundary=historic_diocese)
> > >
> > > Further suggestions from anyone more familiar with overpass than I am
> > will
> > > be most welcome.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 00:17, Donal Hunt 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Brian,
> > > >
> > > > I tried to take a stab at this but overpass got the better of me!!
> > > >
> > > > Here is what I've got so far: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Tn4
> > > >
> > > > This will give you an area excluding the two diocese relations you
> > > > mentioned. I think you either need to do a map_to_area or a Recurse
> > > up/down
> > > > relations function after that but I can't wrap my head around that
> part
> > > and
> > > > there are few examples that explain it well enough...
> > > >
> > > > Also - in hindsight, my query result only returns other diocesan
> areas
> > > that
> > > > are not Ross / Cloyne. There are obviously parts of Cork that aren't
> > > > contained within a diocesan area right now.
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully one of the overpass gurus here will put us out of our
> > misery!!
> > > =)
> > > >
> > > > Donal
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:38 PM Brian Hollinshead <
> > br...@hollinshead.net
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne, Cork
> > and
> > > > > Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese to
> > OSM.
> > > > > Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes into
> > > JOSM.
> > > > > Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
> > > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
> > > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember
> that
> > > > > boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > ___
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> > > > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
> > > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Donal Hunt
> > > > OpenStreetMap Ireland
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

2020-04-28 Thread Brian Hollinshead
Hi John,
That is great thank you. It does include the four parishes from Diocese of
Ardfert but I can cope the that. I did not want all the Cloyne Parishes in
Cork County lest there would be duplicate names.

Regards

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:30, John Kennedy  wrote:

> Hi Brian.
> Does this work?
>
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TnN
>
> I attempt to gather all CPs in Cork.
> Then all CPs in the mapped dioceses.
> Then take the difference.
>
> But I just query by area name - this could be tightened further.
>
> Rgds/
>  - John
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 09:20, Brian Hollinshead 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Donal,
> > Thanks for having a go at that overpass query. Your offer showed the
> > Diocese of Ardfert which has perhaps six Cork civil parishes. I had not
> > included it in my enquiry for fear of complicating it further.
> >
> > If you run overpass, include all County Cork on screen and use wizard:
> > boundary=historic_diocese, the resultant white space is the Diocese of
> Cork
> > (1837)  from which i wish to load all the civil parishes into JOSM for
> > further progress.
> >
> > For anyone new to this conversation that is : all the civil parishes in
> > County cork not already mapped in OSM as parts or all of the Dioceses of
> > Ardfert and Aghadoe, Cloyne or Ross. (as boundary=historic_diocese)
> >
> > Further suggestions from anyone more familiar with overpass than I am
> will
> > be most welcome.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 00:17, Donal Hunt 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Brian,
> > >
> > > I tried to take a stab at this but overpass got the better of me!!
> > >
> > > Here is what I've got so far: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Tn4
> > >
> > > This will give you an area excluding the two diocese relations you
> > > mentioned. I think you either need to do a map_to_area or a Recurse
> > up/down
> > > relations function after that but I can't wrap my head around that part
> > and
> > > there are few examples that explain it well enough...
> > >
> > > Also - in hindsight, my query result only returns other diocesan areas
> > that
> > > are not Ross / Cloyne. There are obviously parts of Cork that aren't
> > > contained within a diocesan area right now.
> > >
> > > Hopefully one of the overpass gurus here will put us out of our
> misery!!
> > =)
> > >
> > > Donal
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:38 PM Brian Hollinshead <
> br...@hollinshead.net
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne, Cork
> and
> > > > Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese to
> OSM.
> > > > Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes into
> > JOSM.
> > > > Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
> > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
> > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember that
> > > > boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > ___
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> > > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
> > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > OpenStreetMap Ireland
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

2020-04-28 Thread Donal Hunt
Took a look and looks sane to me. I was trying this last night but failing!


On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, 12:30 John Kennedy,  wrote:

> Hi Brian.
> Does this work?
>
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TnN
>
> I attempt to gather all CPs in Cork.
> Then all CPs in the mapped dioceses.
> Then take the difference.
>
> But I just query by area name - this could be tightened further.
>
> Rgds/
>  - John
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 09:20, Brian Hollinshead 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Donal,
> > Thanks for having a go at that overpass query. Your offer showed the
> > Diocese of Ardfert which has perhaps six Cork civil parishes. I had not
> > included it in my enquiry for fear of complicating it further.
> >
> > If you run overpass, include all County Cork on screen and use wizard:
> > boundary=historic_diocese, the resultant white space is the Diocese of
> Cork
> > (1837)  from which i wish to load all the civil parishes into JOSM for
> > further progress.
> >
> > For anyone new to this conversation that is : all the civil parishes in
> > County cork not already mapped in OSM as parts or all of the Dioceses of
> > Ardfert and Aghadoe, Cloyne or Ross. (as boundary=historic_diocese)
> >
> > Further suggestions from anyone more familiar with overpass than I am
> will
> > be most welcome.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 00:17, Donal Hunt 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Brian,
> > >
> > > I tried to take a stab at this but overpass got the better of me!!
> > >
> > > Here is what I've got so far: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Tn4
> > >
> > > This will give you an area excluding the two diocese relations you
> > > mentioned. I think you either need to do a map_to_area or a Recurse
> > up/down
> > > relations function after that but I can't wrap my head around that part
> > and
> > > there are few examples that explain it well enough...
> > >
> > > Also - in hindsight, my query result only returns other diocesan areas
> > that
> > > are not Ross / Cloyne. There are obviously parts of Cork that aren't
> > > contained within a diocesan area right now.
> > >
> > > Hopefully one of the overpass gurus here will put us out of our
> misery!!
> > =)
> > >
> > > Donal
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:38 PM Brian Hollinshead <
> br...@hollinshead.net
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne, Cork
> and
> > > > Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese to
> OSM.
> > > > Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes into
> > JOSM.
> > > > Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
> > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
> > > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember that
> > > > boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
> > > > Thanks
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

2020-04-28 Thread John Kennedy
Hi Brian.
Does this work?

https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TnN

I attempt to gather all CPs in Cork.
Then all CPs in the mapped dioceses.
Then take the difference.

But I just query by area name - this could be tightened further.

Rgds/
 - John




On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 09:20, Brian Hollinshead 
wrote:

> Hi Donal,
> Thanks for having a go at that overpass query. Your offer showed the
> Diocese of Ardfert which has perhaps six Cork civil parishes. I had not
> included it in my enquiry for fear of complicating it further.
>
> If you run overpass, include all County Cork on screen and use wizard:
> boundary=historic_diocese, the resultant white space is the Diocese of Cork
> (1837)  from which i wish to load all the civil parishes into JOSM for
> further progress.
>
> For anyone new to this conversation that is : all the civil parishes in
> County cork not already mapped in OSM as parts or all of the Dioceses of
> Ardfert and Aghadoe, Cloyne or Ross. (as boundary=historic_diocese)
>
> Further suggestions from anyone more familiar with overpass than I am will
> be most welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 00:17, Donal Hunt 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Brian,
> >
> > I tried to take a stab at this but overpass got the better of me!!
> >
> > Here is what I've got so far: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Tn4
> >
> > This will give you an area excluding the two diocese relations you
> > mentioned. I think you either need to do a map_to_area or a Recurse
> up/down
> > relations function after that but I can't wrap my head around that part
> and
> > there are few examples that explain it well enough...
> >
> > Also - in hindsight, my query result only returns other diocesan areas
> that
> > are not Ross / Cloyne. There are obviously parts of Cork that aren't
> > contained within a diocesan area right now.
> >
> > Hopefully one of the overpass gurus here will put us out of our misery!!
> =)
> >
> > Donal
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:38 PM Brian Hollinshead  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne, Cork and
> > > Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese to OSM.
> > > Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes into
> JOSM.
> > > Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
> > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
> > > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember that
> > > boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
> > > Thanks
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> > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
> > >
> >
> >
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> > OpenStreetMap Ireland
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

2020-04-28 Thread Brian Hollinshead
Hi Donal,
Thanks for having a go at that overpass query. Your offer showed the
Diocese of Ardfert which has perhaps six Cork civil parishes. I had not
included it in my enquiry for fear of complicating it further.

If you run overpass, include all County Cork on screen and use wizard:
boundary=historic_diocese, the resultant white space is the Diocese of Cork
(1837)  from which i wish to load all the civil parishes into JOSM for
further progress.

For anyone new to this conversation that is : all the civil parishes in
County cork not already mapped in OSM as parts or all of the Dioceses of
Ardfert and Aghadoe, Cloyne or Ross. (as boundary=historic_diocese)

Further suggestions from anyone more familiar with overpass than I am will
be most welcome.

Thanks

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 00:17, Donal Hunt 
wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>
> I tried to take a stab at this but overpass got the better of me!!
>
> Here is what I've got so far: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Tn4
>
> This will give you an area excluding the two diocese relations you
> mentioned. I think you either need to do a map_to_area or a Recurse up/down
> relations function after that but I can't wrap my head around that part and
> there are few examples that explain it well enough...
>
> Also - in hindsight, my query result only returns other diocesan areas that
> are not Ross / Cloyne. There are obviously parts of Cork that aren't
> contained within a diocesan area right now.
>
> Hopefully one of the overpass gurus here will put us out of our misery!! =)
>
> Donal
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:38 PM Brian Hollinshead 
> wrote:
>
> > Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne, Cork and
> > Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese to OSM.
> > Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes into JOSM.
> > Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
> > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
> > (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember that
> > boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
> > Thanks
> > ___
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> > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
> >
>
>
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> OpenStreetMap Ireland
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

2020-04-27 Thread Donal Hunt
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/47726/how-to-get-list-of-areas-in-an-area
seems
to suggest an approach to doing this but doesn't provide a query that would
help us here.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:16 AM Donal Hunt 
wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>
> I tried to take a stab at this but overpass got the better of me!!
>
> Here is what I've got so far: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Tn4
>
> This will give you an area excluding the two diocese relations you
> mentioned. I think you either need to do a map_to_area or a Recurse up/down
> relations function after that but I can't wrap my head around that part and
> there are few examples that explain it well enough...
>
> Also - in hindsight, my query result only returns other diocesan areas
> that are not Ross / Cloyne. There are obviously parts of Cork that aren't
> contained within a diocesan area right now.
>
> Hopefully one of the overpass gurus here will put us out of our misery!! =)
>
> Donal
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 4:38 PM Brian Hollinshead 
> wrote:
>
>> Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne, Cork and
>> Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese to OSM.
>> Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes into JOSM.
>> Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
>> (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
>> (boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember that
>> boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
>> Thanks
>> ___
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>>
>
>
> --
> Donal Hunt
> OpenStreetMap Ireland
> donal.h...@openstreetmap.ie | +353 87 8175123
>


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[OSM-talk-ie] Overpass query?

2020-04-25 Thread Brian Hollinshead
Overpass query: County Cork comprises the Dioceses of Cloyne, Cork and
Ross. I have added Cloyne and Ross as boundary=historic_diocese to OSM.
Please can I use overpass to load the remaining civil parishes into JOSM.
Something  like  boundary=civil_parish in "County Cork" BUT NOT
(boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Cloyne") OR NOT
(boundary=civil_parish in "Diocese of Ross). I seem to remember that
boundary!=xxx omits what follows but am unsure.
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